The Current - Canada’s new Pacific Link Pipeline

Episode Date: October 2, 2026

After months of talk, a new proposed oil pipeline to the west coast has a name, a route and backing from the federal government. Pacific Link has been designated a “Project of National Interest” a...nd would carry as much as a million barrels of oil a day from Alberta to the B.C. coast, largely following the existing Trans Mountain corridor. CBC business reporter Kyle Bakx has the latest.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, I'm Matea from the show Bookends. If you want a front row seat to heated rivalry, keep listening. You heard me right. I'm talking about that heated rivalry, starring Hudson Williams and Connor's story. You probably know that the heated rivalry series was based on a book by Rachel Reed, and the next book in that series is on its way. If you want an inside look, Rachel Reed is joining me on stage for a special live event at Massey Hall on October 13th. We'll be talking all things heated rivalry in a room full of fans, so come join the party. You can find tickets and more details at cBCbooks.ca. This is a CBC podcast. Hi, I'm Rebecca Zanbergen and you're listening to the current podcast. The new proposed West Coast pipeline is the
Starting point is 00:00:46 first project designated of national interest under the Building Canada Act. Prime Minister Mark Carney was in Fort McMurray yesterday to make the announcement alongside Alberta Premier Daniel Smith. Named the Pacific length, the pipeline would carry as much as a million barrels of oil a day from Alberta to the BC coast, and it would largely follow the existing trans-mountain pipeline route. And here's what the Prime Minister says will happen next. Over the next year, the major projects office, supported by Canada's energy regulator, will lead consultations with all stakeholders to set the conditions for the projects, specifics about the ownership, the benefits, the environmental protections,
Starting point is 00:01:24 and the local hiring, contracting and oversight. CBC's business reporter, Kyle Bax, is in Calgary. Good morning. Good morning, Rebecca. So it's clear the federal government is all in, Alberta is all in. Does that mean this thing is going ahead? Well, I would describe it as one step forward on a long journey ahead because there's a lot more work to do and some significant hurdles to overcome. But at least for now, we have a name, Pacific Link. So at least we know what to call it. Okay, you were in Fort McMurray this week and spoke to some people there. Let's have a listen to a few of them. I don't think it'll ever be as crazy as the 2006 booms where, you know, four hours to drive to site because traffic was so bad,
Starting point is 00:02:04 but I do see smaller booms happening and steadier booms happening, which is good. I can see the community looking a lot busier. I can see more development, more families moving into the area, better opportunities for improved infrastructure and services and just general growth. So a long road ahead, but if this goes ahead,
Starting point is 00:02:21 what does this project mean for Fort McMurray? Well, it means a lot. You know, the last 10, 12 years have been pretty tough there. You know, the oil prices crashed. There were wildfires. There was a devastating flood to the downtown. So, you know, people describe how it's been really sluggish. It's been, you know, a lot of doom and gloom. But even just over the last year, there's been a real upswing. You know, high oil prices are partly responsible. But a lot of it is also anticipation of this new pipeline and then what it could mean for construction of new projects potentially in the oil
Starting point is 00:02:56 sands. And so this community that is known for these meteoric oil booms and crippling busts over the past number of decades, it's now eyeing another potential wave of good fortune. Yeah. And so clearly there's excitement there, but there is a pretty hefty price tag to all of this. It's estimated at between $35 and $45 billion. Who's going to pay for that? Well, the ownership is split three ways right now. So there is a private company, Pemina Pipelines, that has a 10% stake. The remaining 90% is split between the Alberta governments and the federal government.
Starting point is 00:03:32 The federal share is through a Crown Corporation. And so that's how the ownership is split right now. But of course, things could change over the next year or two as this project does move towards construction. And indigenous groups are being offered ownership, at least a 10% share. So that's something also we're going to keep an eye on. Interesting, you talk about that, the ownership, because the Union of BC Indian Chiefs has already come out promising a fight against this pipeline.
Starting point is 00:04:02 How able do you think the governments are, Alberta and the federal government, and getting these First Nations communities on side? Yeah, and there are in some indigenous groups who definitely oppose this project. There are also some that support it and would like a larger ownership stake of this project. And then there's also a number of indigenous groups that are also somewhere in the middle. They are grappling with what to do. So, for instance, there's the Athabasca, Chippewana First Nation. It's near Fort McMurray. It has concerns about the possible impacts on land, rivers, habitat.
Starting point is 00:04:38 It's also listening, though, to what possible economic benefits there might be. And the chief, Alan Adam, he's opposed the oil industry many times before, but he also did attend the announcement with the Prime Minister yesterday. So the nation is saying it wants to be involved. It wants to be at the table to learn more about the project and then also provide its input as well. You know, the Trans Mountain Pipeline was expanded not that long ago. And now we're talking about this new pipeline that will follow the same route likely as what we're learning as the Trans Mountain Pipeline. I know we have the oil, but do we have the means to get it into these pipelines?
Starting point is 00:05:14 You know, one of the big challenges is going to be whether the oil companies are going to sign long-term contracts committing themselves to actually using this project. And the reason is because it is a big pipeline. And so they're going to have to spend billions of dollars to increase their own production to commit to using this pipeline for 20, 25, 30 years. and that is going to be a big hurdle for this pipeline. And that's even why Alberta's Premier Daniel Smith is expected to roll out a new incentive program coming up to help encourage these companies to spend the money. And this incentive program is only going to be for companies that are building new projects to increase oil production. The prime minister was in BC earlier this week announcing $1.2 billion in federal funding for ocean protection.
Starting point is 00:06:12 How is this project landing in BC? You know, it's going to be something to watch during the election. You know, the BC Conservatives, they came out yesterday right away praising the project. For the incumbent NDP, you know, at this point, the route is generally acceptable because it does follow that existing trans mountain pipeline route. The NDP was much more concerned about other routes that Alberta was considering that would have used ports further north up the coast. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And so Mark Carney said, you know, there's expectations that construction could begin as early as next September. I mean, given all of what we just talked about, is that realistic, do you think? You know, the people I've spoken with say, yeah, that's pretty optimistic. But, you know, when they say construction starting, that could also mean, you know, start moving ground, but not actually, you know, fully ramping up production. That still could be a couple years away. And there is this long to-do list. There's detailed route planning. There's engineering.
Starting point is 00:07:17 There's consultation with more than 100 communities. So there's a lot of work to do. And even with the consultation process, they're trying to do it differently with this project. You know, previously a company would announce a project and then they would go and do consultation with local communities, including indigenous groups. For this one, they're trying,
Starting point is 00:07:38 they tried to go out early before announcing where the pipeline would even go. But then a lot of communities were frustrated because they basically said, you're providing us with no details. So what kind of input are we supposed to give? And so there has been some frustration already, but there's still going to be a lot of consultation ahead for this project. Yeah, shorter time frame, but still a long road ahead.
Starting point is 00:08:04 It sounds like Kyle. Thank you very much for this. Thank you. Kyle Bax is a CBC business reporter and he was in Calgary. For more CBC podcasts, go to cBC.ca slash podcasts.

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