The Current - Canadian Olympians stop by the Current
Episode Date: February 22, 2026Take a listen to Matt's conversations with Canadian Olympians Piper Gilles, Paul Poirier and Mikaël Kingsbury...
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Hello, I'm Matt Galloway, and this is the current podcast.
This is going to be done for silver.
I guess the skating world's been saving it for them.
Break out the Kleenex.
Oh, yeah.
Going to need another box, Brenda.
Those are a few of Canada's standout moments at these Olympic games.
And that last voice we just heard saying she was going to need another box of Kleenex
as the coach of Piper Gillis and Paul Porreier,
who won a bronze medal.
medal for Canada in ice dance.
We're going to speak with Piper and Paul coming up in just a few minutes, but first we're
joined by the Chef de Michean for Team Canada Olympic champion herself, Jennifer Hile.
She is in Cortina, Italy this morning.
Jen, good morning.
Good morning.
It's been a week of these games.
What is the mood like in Team Canada?
Yeah, well, oh man, you got me emotional again with that intro.
You know, we have had so many courageous performances.
You just replayed a few of them.
The team, you know, they came here to perform.
They've been locked in.
They've been focused.
We are really just building.
We always knew that the second week of these Olympics were going to be our strongest in terms of metal potential.
And so, you know, the team is just here executing.
When McHale-Kinsbury won that gold medal, Canada's first gold medal yesterday, what did that mean for the team in terms of the team's mood?
Getting that first gold medal is always a great thing.
You know, fortunately, I was able to play that role in 20 years ago competing, you know, at the beginning of the games.
And, you know, it is a boost to the team without a doubt.
But I don't think we should only be in the game of gold medals.
Of course, we want gold medals.
Of course, that's the outcome we're aiming for.
But we know how competitive is out here.
We should be aiming for performance and going out to compete with the world's best.
But I would say that, you know, a lot of these performances have done that, including Piper and Paul coming out with one of their best performances ever.
There have been those very close calls. And this is the first gold for Team Canada.
I mentioned it's the longest time since 1968 that it's taken for Canada to win a gold.
There have been those very, very close calls where it seemed like people were about to perhaps win a gold medal or win a medal and didn't.
It was luck not on Canada's side?
Is that what your sense was that it was kind of a narrative that was floating around back here in Canada,
that people had been performing well, but, you know, the puck didn't bounce in the right way or, you know, the clock kind of favored somebody else instead of Canada.
Is your sense that luck wasn't maybe on our side for that first week?
Look, I am, you know, as the athlete, I don't rely on luck for performance.
You know, we want to build a system where the athletes are prepared.
They have everything they need behind them.
and they're ready to compete.
So that's just the nature of competition and sport.
It is that intense.
And I can tell you that since I was an athlete,
it's only become more sophisticated.
Countries have only invested more in preparing for their athletes.
And that's actually not our reality as Canadians.
We're punching way above our weight here.
You know, we haven't had an increase in funding
to the national sport organization.
So the actual operations of, you know, the coaches,
the training camps, all of these fundamental
pieces, we haven't seen an increase in over 20 years. And so, you know, we actually have 30%
less to work with today because of that than we did in 2004. And so we're seeing extraordinary
performances here. But it is challenging behind the scenes. And the athletes are under a lot of
pressure. You know what that pressure is like. What do you say to those athletes? Because
you've experienced that yourself. So what do you say to them when they put everything in and
maybe they don't get exactly what they were hoping for?
Well, I mean, there's two issues here.
One is the nature of the stress of performance at the Olympics and the mental game.
You know, my approach was always, you know, have no regrets at the start line.
Do absolutely everything in your control to, you know, basically take control of that moment.
We don't control the outcomes.
We don't control what our competitors do.
But, you know, I always knew that if I did enough getting to that start line, then I could perform it my best.
And so that's all I want for the athletes.
again, we saw it with, you know, Megan who had a massive crash.
Megan Oldham in the slope style went back up to win a medal.
That's because she was prepared.
That's because, you know, she had that resiliency.
She had trained that.
It wasn't a fluke.
You know, Piper and Paul having one of their best performances for that bronze medal.
Though that is the beauty of the Olympic Games when you can let that excellence come out.
The other challenge, though, is the financial stress.
And it is, you know, at a different level than what I had to compete under.
going into the 2010 Olympic Games.
We, you know, on average, athletes are paying $25,000 per person to just fuel their journey
to get to the start line.
This is real pressure.
You know, we've seen training camps cut for these athletes in preparation because of funding.
I've had staff members come up to tell me who have PhDs in sports science.
They don't know if they will be able to remain in Canada and have a job next year because
of funding.
So that is real pressure.
and that impacts the mood on the ground.
And that's why I really think there's so much to celebrate here
because our athletes will always do more with less.
They are so brave.
They are so courageous.
They are punching way above their weight.
And we need to celebrate that.
But it's not an easy environment right now.
Can I ask you about the curling?
There's a headline in the newspaper here in Canada
saying that Team Canada has gone full villain
after being accused of cheating,
both on the men's side and the women's side.
what is going on with the curling?
So, you know, look, I'm in the Olympic Games bubble, which is a performance bubble.
I know that there's a lot of chatter out there.
I don't know a lot about curling, but what I do know is that they have been cleared by the rules and their federation, you know, that it's been cleared.
It's been, you know, likened to an offside in basketball.
I'm no curling expert, but I do rely on the sports.
sports, you know, to officiate themselves. That's where we're at. We're still in the game. We're looking to, you know, end strong on top of that podium. And that's really where the mindset is of these athletes. You know, I've bumped into them this morning. They're dialed in. They're focused.
I'll let you go. We have a whole week left. But what has been your moment of the games so far? You've been at so many of these competing, but also now you're in this leadership role. When you take a look at what you've seen so far this week, what's been your moment of the games?
Oh my gosh. Well, I don't have one moment. I'm so behind the athletes. I'm so passionate about sport. I'm so passionate about how it brings our country together. You know, we've seen record number of Canadians watching these games. If you're making me pick one, I'm going to pick the most recent that I was on location to witness. That's Laurent Dubre. He's at the end of his career, 500 meter long track speed skating. I was sitting right behind his parents. He had to wait 15 minutes for the other pairs to skate to find out if he would still be on the
the podium. And it was one of the most beautiful moments just locking eyes with his mom and
celebrating that because, you know, it's the family effort. You know, these families are having
to shoulder more than ever before for their athletes as well. So that was a pretty beautiful
a moment, which again just shows, you know, the resiliency and the toughness of our athletes to
still be, you know, in Laurent's case, podiuming in a very competitive sprint at the end of his
career. You're in a really special position and you've seen a lot, but there's a whole week to come.
Enjoy yourself and thank you very much for taking time to talk to us.
Thanks so much. Jennifer Hile is the chef de Michon for Team Canada at these Olympics. She is in
Cortina, Italy. As I mentioned, a Canadian highlight of these games thus far was the performance
of ice dancers, Piper Gillis and Paul Porrier. It won them a bronze medal. We reached their
coach, Carol Lane in Milan. It was actually really almost surreal. My biggest
emotion was actually peace. It was peace. I felt like a thousand pound weight had been lifted off
me and that I could just enjoy the moment because they'd done it. They'd done exactly what they set
out to do. And it was just the most peaceful moment I think I've had in years. We also visited the
Scarborough Figure Skating Club where Piper and Paul have been training together for 15 years.
I was out of loss for words.
Once the program was over, started to tear up, seeing their reaction.
Just knowing how much work they put in every day on the ice and even off the ice is just so inspirational.
It was kind of, like, magical.
It was really emotional.
I found it really mesmerizing the blend between, like, the skating skills and the emotions all coming together.
I think it was, like, very cool to see somebody that you actually, like, know when an Olympic medal.
I felt really excited.
Also, I felt proud of them because I think they really deserve that medal,
because they've been working hard for a very long time.
time, especially like throughout the breaks and stuff, they never stop working.
It makes us want to like skate just like them, you know.
Congratulations, Piper and Paul!
Piper Gillis and Paul Porrier Olympic bronze medalists. Join us now. Good morning to you both.
Good morning. Hello. Congratulations from Canada. Thanks. Thank you. Piper, how does it feel?
Olympic medalist. Have you gotten used to that phrase yet?
Um, slowly but surely, but it still feels kind of like a pinch me moment.
And you hear, you know, the little teammates that we have back at home kind of celebrating and being so proud of us.
Like, it's so nice that we've had that amazing amount of support.
So it's kind of wonderful that we're able to bring back a bronze medal and show them and show them that dreams are possible.
Paul, is the bronze medal?
I mean, how do you measure its distance from you?
Is it in, in centimeters, millimeters?
Have you taken it off your neck yet?
We've been carrying our medals around a lot, which has been so nice.
There's a constant kind of weight in our pockets because they are quite heavy.
But it's just so nice.
We've been able to go around Milan quite a bit over the last few days.
And just everywhere we go, we see people from Canada that are cheering for us that want to see the medals
and that are just so excited for the team so excited for sport and just all the amazing athletes
that are on the team.
So it's just been a really special and amazing environment over the last few days.
Are you surprised how heavy it is?
Yeah.
The two of us were like jumping up and down on the podium
and then when we finally settled and they put the medals,
we were like, oh, we had to like kind of use our abs to keep it up.
That's a good weight.
Paul, we heard Carol Lane there.
You spoke to them talk about heavy.
She talked about how she finally feels at peace
that a weight has been lifted from her.
When you hear that from your coach, what does that mean to you?
Well, I think it's so powerful because,
we felt the exact same way here, even before the skate, we both felt oddly calm in a way that
is not usual at a competition, especially not a competition of this magnitude. But I think that
speaks to the preparation that we put going into this event. We've had quite a challenging season
and a lot of disappointments in the last few months leading up into the Olympics. And I think that
was really motivating for us. It really sharpened us. It forced us to focus. We knew if we wanted
to accomplish, hear what we wanted to accomplish to win a medal, it was really going to
take everything from us.
And so I think when we finally did get to that competition moment, we knew that we had done
everything that we could.
And I think that allowed us to skate with freedom.
And, you know, I think that's what's so amazing about our sport when the stakes are so high.
That's still in those moments you can find complete freedom in what you're doing.
Piper, there's a moment right before you start.
You're looking at each other.
You're holding hands.
And then you take this big, deep breath.
Tell me what was going on.
that moment? You know what? Not a whole lot, actually. It was funny. Before we even got on the ice,
we just kind of looked at each other and we're like, I'm so proud of you, no matter what happens,
I love you. Let's enjoy this moment. So I think by the time we took that like deep inhale,
like we felt so ready to create a moment. And I think that's something that's so special about,
I guess, looking back on a moment like that. Like we can be so proud of having,
such calmness and peace, because that's so unique for any athlete.
A lot of the time we have, we're overthinking a lot of the time.
But I don't know.
It was just so still and peaceful and magical.
Who are you skating for, do you think, Piper?
I mean, you're skating for each other.
You're skating for yourself, but there's a nation that's watching you.
Who are you skating for?
I feel like it's changed over the years.
I think when I was younger, you know, I was.
I was skating for myself.
Then when my mom had passed,
I felt like I was kind of skating in her honor.
But as the years have gone on,
I feel like we're so connected with our support group,
our family,
our friends, Canada.
I think this medal feels like it's Canadian's medal.
And I think that's what's been so fun is Paul and I've gone around in Milan.
We're like,
you want to hold it?
You want to touch it?
And what's so unique about the metal,
it's like it shaped both halves are separated as like half the metal is yours
and half it's the medal of your support.
group and your family members and your country.
And I think that's such a, I don't, such a, I don't even know how to, a nice metaphor.
A nice metaphor for sure.
And so I think over the last couple of years, we've kind of just been skating for everyone.
And I think Canada is really proud of us and we're really proud to represent them.
Paul, you're dialed in as this is going on.
But is there a moment in the back of your mind where you think this is going really, really well?
In this performance, not so much.
It honestly went by in a blink.
And I always liken the best performances to, you know, driving home.
And suddenly you're sitting in your driveway and you don't remember doing any of it.
The best gates usually go a little bit like that.
It went by so quickly.
Suddenly we were very close to the end.
And, you know, our coaches always say when things are going really well,
that's the moment to focus even more.
So, you know, I might have just given myself a very small reminder to just stay present
and not think ahead to the end.
But, you know, I think our training allowed us to take it one step at a time,
the way that we skate our best.
And, you know, the crowd has been so amazing here in Milan.
They've been so supportive of all the skaters cheering for them.
There was so much energy.
The crowd was really behind us.
And so it really felt like this collective experience.
We were alone on the ice, but we weren't alone, so to speak.
And then at the end, I mean, Kurt Browning says he'd never seen.
you so emotional at the end of the performance?
What was that like?
I don't know.
I really don't know.
It's such a haze of emotions.
But I think that's really, you know, the special thing about the Olympics.
It really, as I said before, the Olympic project demands everything from us.
We have to give absolutely everything.
We have to sacrifice absolutely everything.
And so in turn, the feelings are proportionately big and extreme.
and full.
And so, you know, I think of what we've experienced,
what we've lived over the last two weeks,
arriving here in Milan, getting ready, competing.
And I think we've just felt the full spectrum
of the human experience in a very short period of time.
So it's been really beautiful.
It's been really rich.
And we've been so special to share that
with our team that's here
and also our team at home that we know
are waiting to create us when we get back to Canada.
There is this photo, Piper, on your Instagram,
of you at preschool, at the Olympic day,
and you're jumping up and down,
and you have, like, what, this fake medal
or some sort of metal around you back?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
It's funny.
I was looking through his old photos this summer,
and I happened to stumble upon this photo.
And it's hilarious that I'm jumping the exact same way
as I did as a kid.
And our coach, Carol, always says,
like, you're skating.
It's like a football.
print. Like from the moment you start, you don't really change. And I think that's what's so special
is that like my Olympic journey or in my Olympic dream didn't change since I was a kid and to be
able to celebrate in the same way. Like, I don't know, it's like a full circle moment. But I think
that's what's so special about the games is that we can show any, anyone at home that, you know,
if you continue to believe in yourself and strive for greatness, it's possible. But,
just keep being yourself and being authentic.
And I think that's what people will be drawn to,
especially as a role model, as just being yourself.
She wouldn't have believed that.
Maybe she would have.
Maybe she thought that she was going to be there, that little Piper.
I don't know.
I think she believed it,
but I think over the journey sometimes she may have doubted herself.
But I think, you know, over time,
we've built our confidence and our strength up.
And, I don't know, we made it happen.
Paul, what do you think it's going to be like just finally
to come home. You're going to step out of those doors at the airport and you know people are going to be there.
I'm excited to be home. I think we are really excited to kind of soak in this last week of the games.
And we get to be cheerleaders now for the rest of Team Canada, all of our teammates, all of our friends that are here still competing.
It's so much fun to be a sports fan at the Olympic Games. It really is just the most incredible environment.
But I think we are looking forward to being home and, you know, sharing our medal with the rest of our people.
We were so lucky to have family here at the games,
but there's so many more people that are a part of our story,
that are a part of our journey that we haven't seen yet,
that we haven't been able to give a hug to yet.
And I think it's just going to be just a warm glow
for the first few weeks back in Canada.
It may last even more than a few weeks.
It's going to be quite something.
I hope you enjoy it.
This is a really great moment for yourself,
but also for this country.
Congratulations again.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Canadian ice dancers, Olympic, bronze, medalist,
Piper Gillis, and Paul Porriet.
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Arishima of the Blue Course, Kingsbury in the record, great push by the two of them.
Corked in, synchronized, land at the end of the landing, and it's faster.
Tides, deck and Kubei Kruvel.
Mick, still doing stage again, and Kubei, he's out.
Mikael Kinkir will be your Olympic goal.
Yes!
Mikhail Kixbury is Olympic champion once again.
Canada's first gold medal.
Oh my God!
The king has reclaim his crown.
You got to love it.
Philippe Marquis and Alexander Depati with the call for an historic run,
making Mikhail Kingsbury,
one of the most, if not the most decorated freestyle skier in Olympic history,
earning him the first ever gold medal in dual moguls and Olympic Games,
and Canada's first gold medal of these Olympic Games,
the Olympic champ.
Kyle Kingsbury joins us now.
Michael, good morning.
Good morning. How are you guys?
And well, do you feel like the king?
I feel pretty good right now, especially after hearing Phil and Alex come at my run, they did an amazing job.
They're two Olympic legend also.
When did you know in that run that this was going really, really well?
Actually, at the start of the gate, I felt very good.
It's the run that I was the least nervous of the game, not because it was the first nervous.
the final just because I was exactly where I wanted to be and I could look in the crowd and when
they announced my name, you know, I could see my family and yeah, it was just I'm trying,
I was trying to enjoy every moment of it and I had a very, very strong start and as well as
Ikuma and I knew if he passed me, he was probably going to make some mistakes and once I saw him
like in the corner of my highs, not at that bottom air, then I knew I was doing my backflip
and I was telling myself, like, oh, my God, you did it.
And as I crossed the line, you know, I scream as loud as I can.
It was a very special moment, you know, obviously to be the first medal for the country,
the first gold medal, and to be the first one in history to win the dual mode was at the Olympic Games.
So you're in the backflip and you know, like you're telling yourself, this is it.
I got this.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, since he didn't hit the bottom air and he had to pull out,
I knew I was going to win the jumps.
and the turns.
So it didn't matter if he crossed the line before me at that point.
So, yeah, I still had to stay focused because I needed to cross the line.
But, yeah, my subconscious knew it before.
The first gold medal for the country was a big deal.
I mean, you told the Prime Minister, Mark Carney, after your race, that you had seen the headlines, right?
That Canada had been unlucky.
Maybe this country was cursed or something when it came to the gold medal?
Yeah, well, we were on day.
and there was no gold medal and we were about to have one of the longest drought of gold medal in history of Canada.
I'm not sure, like, don't quote me on that, but there's some stuff I read and it motivates me.
I mean, I knew like I'm good in dual moguls and, you know, I won the previous three world championship in duos.
So I knew it was my shot for gold.
And yeah, I gave everything I had knowing that I had the opportunity to win fifth medal and fifth start.
but yeah, also become an Olympic champion.
So I just tried to enjoy myself on my last Olympic performance as much as I can.
And I think with the extra motivation of the silver, yeah, it made me motivated to go get a big day and it worked out.
You've said that this is your final Olympics.
Having one gold, are you thinking about changing your mind?
Now it's hard to give up, I would imagine, being the champion.
Yeah, no, for sure, but now I'm a dad.
I have other priorities in my life, and I still love skiing and I love competing.
But in terms of skier, and right now I'm 33, it's getting pretty old.
And the next game, I'll be 37.
So, no, everything is possible, but I want to be a bit more home and be a good dad for my son.
Tell me more about that.
I mean, how has being a dad changed your relationship with sports?
It changes everything in your life.
But with sports, something that takes up so much of your time, how has that changed?
Yeah, it did change a lot.
I mean, I'm less hard on myself.
It was pretty special the last year and a half to travel with him around the world doing
World Cups.
I'm fortunate enough to have a beautiful, amazing partner.
No, she's an amazing mom, and she let me chase my dreams.
So I'm very, very fortunate for that.
But yeah, it's quite cool to go from being a skier and then back to the hotel room and changing a diaper and becoming a dad.
I think it brought good balance into my life.
And I'm always more, I was always more motivated on the mountain because, you know, I wanted to, you know, to be at my best and be the best dad as I can.
And it's been an amazing journey the last year and a half.
you're just becoming a dad and just continuing to chase my dream.
Does skiing mean less to you?
Not that it isn't still a huge part of your life,
but does it mean less to you now,
given everything else that's going on in your life?
Yeah, yeah, a little bit.
I mean, skiing has been my top priority since I'm a kid, you know,
apart from school when I was younger,
but like in the last 15 years it's been like everything to me.
And all of a sudden there's something more important.
and yeah, it puts you things into perspective.
And, you know, I love skiing, but I love my son way more, you know.
Just for me, having him at the bottom of the course,
it was coming in with already a gold medal around my neck.
There's that amazing photo of you all at the end of the dual moguls,
you and your fellow medalists, and you're all holding your kids.
They called it the Dad Olympics, right?
Yeah, yeah, the Dad Podium, the Dad Olympics.
Yeah, it was, yeah, historical.
I mean, we're three dads on the World Cup tour
at the Olympics in our disciplines
and we were able to pull up the dad's strength
and be on the podium.
We actually did it in one World Cup last year
at the World Championship in the same event in duels.
And I remember saying in an interview,
like we've done it in World Cups at the World Championship,
why not do it at the Olympics?
And the stars were well aligned for our brackets
and we could put it through the three of us.
And yeah, it's an amazing picture that we had at the bottom and the memories that we will remember the three of us, you know, for the rest of our life, you know.
Our kids are almost all the same age, you know, and the last year we were probably the three guys that had the least amount of sleep, you know, but we were able to put it through.
You know, when you really want something, you can make it happen.
And it's not because you're a dad that it's not possible to do it.
Do you pinch yourself at all and try to remind yourself that this is real?
That you are an Olympian, you're an Olympic champion, you carry the flag for Canada into the Olympic Games.
It's happening, but is there a part of you that kind of can't quite believe that this is what's going on in your life?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's crazy.
It's better than for me personally than a, you know, a movie scenario.
Like, it's really insane, you know, to be the...
The flag bear had the opening ceremony to come out of these games with two medals and
obviously like five medals in my career.
But yeah, it's, it's unreal.
It's hard to find words.
And I remember saying to the guys on the podium, I was like, yeah, I was pinching myself.
I was like, I'm actually not dreaming.
And it was a, yeah, it was pretty special.
I think the three of us, we were in the same boat there.
but yeah, I'm so happy.
I realize it now, but it took a little bit for sure.
I mean, you have a whole life ahead of you.
I just wonder what you think you'll miss about this part of your life,
competing at that really, really high level for your country.
Yeah, I mean, it's amazing.
The support we get from all of Canada, it's amazing.
And we're very lucky to be Canadian.
And what I'll miss the most is my team, you know,
being around my teammates, the coaching,
staff and everyone around, you know, it's been so much fun.
You know, I get to travel the world with some of my best friends for so many years and
amazing people that help me chase my dream that have the same mentality.
I mean, the amazing, just finally, the amazing thing is, you know, the one of the things
that's ahead of you is you will come home and there'll be that scene where you step out of
the airport doors and there are all these kids who want to be you, right?
They see you and they want to be you.
What does that do to you when you see that next generation kind of watching you and
thinking I could be that guy.
Yeah, well, it was special because it used to be me.
And it feels like it's not a long time ago.
I was on the other side of the fence, you know, asking for pictures,
saying like autograph from my idols and looking at their videos and wanting to copy them
on my skis and you click your fingers and you're in that position.
And yeah, I feel very fortunate that I can inspire the next generation.
and I hope my performance did, and hopefully one day there'll be some kids competing at the games,
and they say that I inspired them, and for me that will be mission accomplished.
You are the king, and it's great that you have this perspective on the rest of your life
and what the rest of your life means, but this has been a huge part of your life as well.
Congratulations.
Yeah, thank you.
I appreciate it a lot.
Mikhail Kingsbury, five-time Olympic medalist, gold and silver in Italy.
We reached him in Milan.
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