The Daily Beast Podcast - MAGA ‘Loser’ Wants It to Be Illegal for Women to Own Dogs
Episode Date: April 16, 2023Far-right creeps say the darndest things and their soundbites played on this week’s bonus episode of The New Abnormal politics podcast for hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy are some of the most ...absurd yet, from a clip of a Missouri State Senator backing marriage for 12-year-olds to one of a far-right Trump supporter calling to make women dog ownership illegal. Plus! Comedian Josh Gondelman joins this episode to talk about what it was like to be a writer for political comedy shows like ‘Last Week Tonight with John Oliver’ and ‘Desus and Mero.’ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hi, I'm Andy Levy, former Fox News and CNN-HLN guy, and current cable news conscientious objector.
I'm a former libertarian who now sits pretty comfortably on the left.
Hi, I'm Danielle Moody, former educator and recovering lobbyist.
But today, I'm an unapologetic, woke commentator on America's threats to democracy.
And I'm producer Jesse Cannon, and I'm here to make sure things don't go too far off the rails.
We're here to have fun, smart conversations with some of the most knowledgeable and entertaining people in politics, media, and beyond.
goal is to try and make sense of our current crazy world, our new abnormal, and hopefully even
make you laugh through the tears. Hello and welcome to another Sunday bonus episode of the new
abnormal. And we thank you so much for being here. Today we have an extra special guest with
Josh Gondelman, who's a writer and comedian who's worked on shows like last week tonight with John
Oliver and the late Deezeson Mero. And he's going to talk to us about politics and his upcoming
stand-up tour. But first, let's have some fun. Are you guys ready to listen to some clips? Clips.
Okay, so this is a themed episode.
So there's this political theory I've been hearing going around that one of the reasons the Republicans failed to have a red wave and keep losing is that centerists and independent voters that we always hear about.
There's some evidence that they often vote against who they view as the big freak and the weirdo.
And I think the Republicans are kind of winning that race against the Democrats these days.
So today I've assembled a cabinet of horrors from all from this week to show just how big of freaks they are.
So first we're going to start with Florida Republican Representative Webster Barnaby,
who directly compared trans people to mutants and X-Men.
I'm looking at society today, and it's like I'm watching an X-Men movie with people that,
when you watch the X-Men movies for Marvel Comics, it's like we have mutants living among us on planet Earth.
And, you know, some people don't like that.
But that's the fact.
We have people that live among us today on planet Earth
that are happy to display themselves as if they were mutants from another planet.
This is the planet Earth, where God created men, male, and women female.
I'm a proud Christian, conservative Republican.
I'm not on the fence.
There are so many things here.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
One.
I love X-Men even more now.
Because, yeah, we are on Earth 1.
I don't know where Webster is on Earth 2.
And you know what I love when he said that proudly want to display?
You mean proudly live in their own fucking skin?
You mean proudly walk through the streets and live their own lives and want to be unbothered by people like you, sir?
Take your ass to Mars too.
Take go to Earth too.
Like I just, I'm so sick and tight.
Like, where God created, blah, blah, blah.
Everybody doesn't believe in your same God.
Everybody doesn't read from your same Bible of evil and despair.
So mutants, whatever, X-Men, fantastic.
They all have special powers.
They're all really fucking cool.
I love it.
They're also the good guys.
Mm-hmm.
The heroes.
How does he not realize that he sounds like the bad guys?
in the X-Men comics and X-Men movies.
Yeah.
They are the ones that say there are mutants among us and act like they're evil and then they, you know, get
turned into jellyfish.
Remember?
So good.
But he is literally casting himself as the bad guy here and he doesn't realize it.
So there's that.
Second of all, he talks about mutants from other planets.
That's aliens.
Aliens are from other planets.
Mutants are humans who have mutated genes.
That's why they're called mutants.
Correct. So get your shit right. And then Danielle, I have to correct you. You talked about Earth 1 and Earth 2. That's DC Comics. Oh, I'm sorry. In the Marvel universe, the Marvel universe in the comics takes place on Earth 616. 616. 616. Is the main universe. I cannot believe I'm having to spend this entire episode correcting people on comic book mythology and comic book lore. This is just, this is unforgivable.
I think that you should take up a piece of legislation and correct him on the floor immediately.
I just can't get past the fact that he is the bad guy and he doesn't realize it.
It's unreal.
All right.
Listeners, I'm sorry.
I clearly failed at my job and I let this get off the rails.
So this next freak is a young man who goes by new founding father, Ethan Schmidt.
He has a twisty and cell beard.
And I'll be shocked to tell you.
that he's been arrested harassing trans people before,
and is an unhinged Trump worshipper.
Let's hear about how he wants to run the country
and brace yourselves, guys.
The problem he's cited is a little weird.
New founding father.
And an issue has recently came to my attention.
Not many people will talk about.
And that's the issue of women owning dogs, okay?
You know, if a single woman owns a dog, you know,
owns a dog. That is a major red flag. Major red flag. You know, every woman I've ever seen that
single and has a dog, especially a male dog, you know, they have no control over the dog. Okay,
it's super weird, super cringe. You know, it should be outlawed in the United States. We need to
pass legislation against this. You know, it's super weird, super cringe. You know, I've been
attacked multiple times by, you know, female, you know, dog owners, like, by their dogs.
Their dogs have attacked them multiple times. Can't count on many times. Super cringe, super weird,
a major red flag, you know, women should not be able to own dogs and the United States unless
they're married. Then we can make exceptions, but we need to pass the legislation against this.
This will be one of the first, you know, lost pass, sort of many to abolish women.
rights in the United States. Women have too many rights in the United States. That's why we're
going, you know, downhill quick. You know, in top of outlying women from owning dogs, we need to
outlaw women in politics, outlaw women in positions of political power, corporate power,
allot women in the military, outlaw women in the police force. But plenty of other,
plenty of other things, too. Yeah, let's start there. New Founding Fountain fathers,
Ethan Schmidt. Make America great again. Again.
Is he like an in-sell? Like, is he like one of those guys?
So, Danielle, I actually tried to fact-check if he was a groiper or an insale, but, you know,
sadly the internet didn't quite lead me to this evidence of either one. But he looks and sounds
the part is what I will say. I mean, he looks and sounds like he has never had sex and will never
have sex if, in fact, his choice is with a woman. It's almost comical in it.
It's like in its ridiculousness, but then when you realize there are full communities of men that are like this, it's sick.
This guy clearly has tried to harass multiple women.
And luckily for the women, some of them have had dogs who have then attacked him.
And that's why he doesn't think women should have dogs.
I'm not even joking here.
Like I, when you sit there and say, I've been attacked multiple times by women's dogs, that's what that means.
That means you were harassing the shit out of them, and their dogs were like,
get the fuck out of here, you insell asshole.
And he doesn't want women to own dogs.
He probably doesn't think women should be allowed to own mace or whistles or other things
that might harm his chances of harassing them.
Yeah, I mean, the shit's funny, except when you realize that, you know, by 2028,
this could be in the Republican Party platform.
You never know which one of these people is going to get picked by Trump when he's picking Laura Loomer to hang out with.
Oh, my God.
What a loser.
Loser.
I just think it this way.
Like, this is clearly making policy by bad dates.
And, you know, if I was a new founding father, that was the case.
Astrology would have been bad a long time ago.
All right.
On to the next freak show.
Senator Mike Boone of Missouri here is the weirdo arguing with.
Rep Crossley, you'll hear who is called...
Rep Crossley is the good guy calling him out here for this absolute freak show behavior.
Talk about parents' rights to raise their kids how they want.
In fact, I just double-checked.
You voted no on making it illegal for kids to be married to adults at the age of 12 if their parents consented to it.
You said, actually, that should be the law because it's the parents' right and the kids' right to decide what's best for them to be raped by an adult.
Do you know any kids who have been married at age 12?
That was the law.
You voted not to change it.
Do you know any kids who have been married at age 12?
I don't need to.
I do.
And guess what?
They're still married.
Gentlemen.
Oh my God.
So let me just tick off something real quick.
So Republicans are rolling back.
child protection laws, you know, in terms of the workforce.
They're rolling back laws for marriage.
They are banning comprehensive sex ed.
They're closing libraries.
And now they want children to be able to get married at the age of 12.
Like, what fucking century are these people living in?
And who the fuck do you know that was married at 12?
And guess what?
They're still married.
What is wrong with you?
Oh my God.
I'm so disgusted.
Basically, they just said that like pedophilia is good.
And that's okay.
That's what they've said.
As long as the marriage lasts.
As long as the marriage lasts and she starts pushing out babies right after she started her menstruation,
which by the way, we can't also talk about.
Which by the way is banned from being talked about.
God, I'm going to have to beep you a Danielle.
I think there's a word for people, particularly for a,
girl who somehow got married to an adult at age 12 and he's still married to them. And that word
isn't white. It's prisoner. Or child bride. This is beyond insane. And the amazing thing is you,
you know, you ticked off all those things, Danielle. And then the Republicans will sit there and wonder why
young people vote against them. Like that's what's amazing to me is they'll sit there and go, oh,
and then they blame it on indoctrination in colleges. And it's like, no, it's the fact that you want
14-year-olds to be working in factories and married to you.
you. Like, oh my God. You know, or, you know, that's assuming they survive whatever school
shooting they have to go through. So it's just like, figure your shit out. Like, young people
don't vote for you for a lot of reasons and all those reasons are called your policies.
A hundred percent. Yeah. Okay. One last freak show. Nebraska State Senator John Lowe,
he thinks he's got this abortion argument.
All figured out checkmate libs.
Can't wait to share this mic drop moment.
Let's see if anyone agrees.
With a brand new baby in her womb.
Mary in her new baby in her womb, she approaches Elizabeth.
And John is in Elizabeth's womb.
And the Holy Spirit is communicated in some miraculous, incredible way from the womb of the Virgin Mary
in Jesus Christ himself to the womb of Elizabeth, John the Bible.
John the Baptist and John leapt.
And that is why abortion is clearly evil.
And that is why abortion is clearly evil.
Oh, my God.
Not often you see the laughter after saying something stupid in a government body,
but should happen more often.
Oh, my God.
I just want to point out that this was not in, you know,
New York or some other godless place.
This was in Nebraska.
They were laughing at him in Nebraska.
You know, I know that Nikki Haley had wanted to institute like a fitness test, right?
Like a mental fitness test.
But you do realize that these people have to take no test or certification other than like shaking babies and kissing hands.
Like they don't have to do anything to prove their fitness for office.
And it shows.
It fucking shows.
That reminds me of when Rick Scott thought he was going to get rid of all the welfare of the country
because he thought everybody was on drugs and then everybody's passing the drug test.
It's like, whoops, my assumption was wrong.
And I think Nikki Haley's assumption is that it's Democrats who are going to be failing that when hi.
God.
We are in such a bad place as a country, though, when an elected official can get up and tell a story from the Bible.
and then say that's why abortion should be illegal.
Like, that is just, that is not what this country is supposed to be.
They want a theocracy so badly, and I really wish they would just go somewhere else.
My guest today is a writer and comedian who's worked on shows like last week tonight with John Oliver,
the late lamented Desis and Mero, and is a regular on NPR's Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.
He's also been popping up on MSNBC a lot lately as he became.
comes political at his old age. He's also famous for giving pet talks on Twitter, though I don't think
I've ever gotten one and has expanded that to substack where he writes the newsletter,
That's Marvelous. Please give a warm round of applause for the very funny Mr. Josh Gondelman.
Thank you. Thank you for the lovely. We'll add the applause in post. Oh, I assume everybody is
individually applauding at home and I feel that warmth. Yes, they are, but we'll drop it in.
Right, as like, so they know that everyone else is clapping as well. Exactly. Perfect.
So thanks for being here. We're a political podcast, so I want to start with some political questions,
and then depending on how well you do, we'll move on to other stuff. Okay, perfect.
My first question is, it's a fill in the blank.
George Washington was the blank of our country.
First president.
Well, that's true. We were looking for father, father of our country.
Oh, okay. Okay. I didn't know if this was like your right or wrong answers or if it was more of a Roorshack.
It's okay. It's okay. Okay. The second question is sort of a,
A or B, multiple choice question.
In Federalist number 39, did James Madison say that the proposed U.S. Constitution was a national
or a federal constitution?
Oh, that's a great question.
A national or a federal constitution?
Federal. Well, the correct answer is a composition of both.
Okay, okay. So it's an option, an option C, which I was not...
Well, it was a bit of a trick question. Okay, okay.
But I'll move on to actual questions now.
I joked about you popping up on MSNBC because you've become political in your old days.
But that's not really true.
You wrote for John Oliver, which is an explicitly political show, and you were the headwriter for Deezis and Mero, which certainly, you know, touched on political and cultural hot button issues.
What would you say formed your political beliefs?
I believe you're sort of center right.
I always think of you as the Mitt Romney of comedy.
Well, you know, I did grow up in Mitt Romney's Massachusetts with Romney Care, his radical socialist health care.
that he has since disavowed.
I don't know.
I mean, I think that's part of it.
I grew up in Massachusetts.
I graduated high school in 2003, and I imagine a lot of people my age kind of were formed very,
like the crucible of their political awakening in any direction was how they reacted to, like,
the political fallout after September 11th.
I feel like the kind of paths, generally the A and B paths available,
We're like, well, we've got to do everything that we can to keep the country safe.
And then the other path being like, well, I think we're infringing on quite a lot of civil liberties
for the sake of like government surveillance and political theater.
I went closer to that path.
I feel like every time I take off my shoes at the airport, I grumble like, this wasn't even a
boat.
I know, this is a different thing.
And we're still just doing it.
You know what I mean?
So it's just like, I feel like it went pretty early with me.
And then I think I've kind of drifted leftward since then even.
Yeah, as a lot of us have.
Yeah.
I mean, those are two amazing shows.
Thank you.
It was really a great joy and a privilege to be like a small part of both of them for quite some time.
Well, that's the thing.
Were you like honored to be part of two amazing shows or do you think they were two
amazing shows because you were part of them?
Definitely the first one.
I mean, like, there are moments that I feel really proud of my specific contributions
that I'm like, ooh, I really think that I added to the show in this way.
But definitely more than anything, it's like such a group effort and such a wonderful two
staffs and hosts that were so talented and are so talented, that it was just like a real thrill
to get to be a little part of these big projects.
And I do a lot of stand-up.
And I, you know, I kind of feel like that is where I get to just kind of say the things that
I want to say that are funny to me.
Right.
And then that gives me extra perspective.
that like being a part of a big staff is such a team effort and that like, you know,
an individual writer can bring a lot to the table and a writing staff brings so much of the show,
but it takes everyone from like the PA's, the studio crew, the camera ops, the rights and
clearances people, the post team who like feeds the show to the network and you go,
damn, this is like even more people than you think of. Oh yeah. And that's the spectrum, right? That's
the end of the spectrum of like, wow, every single person who touches this really makes an imprint.
And then the other end of the spectrum is the person you meet on the street that goes,
oh, I didn't know John Oliver had writers.
I thought he just kind of sat down and said that.
Right.
And you're like, okay, I guess I will drink poison.
How would you compare the two shows?
I don't mean in terms of quality.
I'm not trying to trap you or anything here.
No, no, no.
I understand.
They were 180 degrees different as a work experience.
But I think they were really both at the core kind of built around the unique voices and
perspective of the hosts. And I think that's really special. And I think like John Oliver being on
HBO now HBO Max, I think, and Jesus and Merrill having been on Showtime, there's a little less
corporate pressure. You know, it's a little less like, man, you can't show in old guys'
penis and gray pubes, which is what's something that last week tonight did, I think episode three
for like a straight on shot of some of this old guy's junk. And like you can do that. There has to be an
ad for subway right after this.
So it was like really fun to get to work on these shows where the host got to do this
like fairly crystalline version of like the show they wanted to make with input, again,
from writers and producers of like, oh, we think this would work and we think this is the way to do it.
But there wasn't a lot of like, okay, now we have to do a brand integration for Boston Dynamics,
new murder robots.
It feels like Deezus and Mero was a much looser show, but I'm also aware that that could be because they're both so good at making it seem that way.
No, it was incredibly freewheeling, I think, is the word you would use.
They were so good at generating that, and part of it is because they were both so good off the cuff.
And the show was really designed to let them drive in that way and put them in positions where they can be as comfortable and natural as possible with, like,
the stimulus that we're providing and the structure that we're providing, and then to edit everything down.
So it kind of feels like, oh, they did this all in one take in four minutes. And, you know, it is a lot of one take.
Like, we weren't doing a ton of pickups. We weren't like, can you get that joke cleaner?
Like, I think one of the joys of the show was like little mistakes that would be corrected on the floor.
And you would hear like Julia Young, who is the producer that ran the playback on the clips and everything, her being like, no, that was a different movie than you're talking about.
And then Deezus and Mero realizing and laughing was like it was such a joy to see on TV, I think, like that kind of push and pull and like how the sausage is made.
And then if you zoom back out, there's like an additional level of like, okay, how much of that do we include?
How much of that do we take out and make it look more seamless?
And like that was such a fun kind of like toggling and twiddling of dials to get it to a point where it felt like really special and spontaneous.
but also we used like all the tools that are disposal to make it feel as smooth and clean.
Because you couldn't just show exactly what we recorded.
It would take too much airtime.
So it was great to get to have that balance and like a really fun challenge.
And when I say 180 degrees the opposite, work experience from last week tonight,
the difference between Jesus and Mero sitting down and just like riffing so generatively based on prompts
and like bits that the writers and producers provided for them.
That was so different than John who sits down and Jeremy Hardwick, who I think is an AD over there, we'll go, we're about 15 seconds heavy.
We need to get under by 15 seconds.
And John will just go, okay.
And then he'll talk 15 seconds faster over the course of half an hour.
And it's like truly machine-like in a very different way.
Yeah.
Also, my understanding of John Oliver is from talking to other people who've worked there that he has a place.
I don't know if it's right on the set or in the back called the hole.
And any rider that he's displeased with has to go down there for like.
like 12 to 24 hours.
Yeah, I mean, they're actually, I don't want to tip too much.
I have a lot of friends that are still working there, but they are doing like a 17-minute
in-depth story about the whole and how that qualifies a psychological torture and how
actually it should be, it's constitutionally outlawed, but John found a loophole in
the constitution to continue throwing writers in it.
Well, because he's British.
Yeah, that's it.
The whole is actually the British embassy to the last week tonight office.
Right, it's British territory.
Yeah. So they can treat American prisoners a lot more cruelly.
No, it's lovely.
Do you trust him to cover that impartially?
You know, he's really good at his job.
Okay.
All right.
No, but it was really great.
He's very kind and thoughtful boss and like a very thoughtful comedian.
And it really like, he and Tim Carvel, who's an executive producer there and had been
a head writer at The Daily Show, I really learned so much from them about, like,
like how to create comedy that says the thing that you want it to say and doesn't like necessary,
you know, doesn't have a lot of collateral damage that you don't intend.
I think like working with intent is like a real gift that they both have and they cultivate
through like incredibly hard work that they do.
Oh, that's great.
Would you say that either or both of the shows sort of, you know, we talked earlier about
how your politics were sort of formed, but do you think working on either of those
shows sort of affected your political outlooks, changed your political outlooks, made you more
aware of things. And by politics, you know, I'm also including like cultural stuff.
Oh, yeah. I mean, I just definitely, I think that especially at last week tonight, just kind of
going deeply into stuff like criminal justice reform and policing, I got to look at those topics
on a level that I wasn't necessarily like diving in as deeply just in my own reading.
And I think like stuff like that where you go, oh, all this stuff that's consistent.
considered kind of like unimpeachable evidence, for example, in court.
You're like, oh, that's just kind of like made up, like that kind of ballistics analysis.
Largely kind of, yeah.
Yeah, blood spatter especially is like very fudged.
It's a lot of like, oh, must have come from over there.
And you're like, okay.
And so that kind of thing I think I really looked at in a more granular level and like peeling
back a lot of received wisdom.
And then with Deezis and Mero, I think just like hearing their kind of unfiltered,
unmediated responses.
and like their reaction to news and very thoughtful, but not kind of run through the same like,
well, can we justify saying this through a period of four weeks of rigorous research and
analysis, but them just being like, no, no, no, this is what I've seen and this is how I've
experienced it and this is what it is. And this is like the gut reaction really felt like,
oh, this is something that I am really grateful to have been close to.
like they're kind of sincere and specific responses to things.
I thought that was really cool to see them being very honest on TV in that way and like very
unfiltered at times.
And that really brought another perspective to it, just seeing like what these two guys who
were, you know, people of color who grew up in the Bronx, their like gut reaction to something
like the presidential election or like the, I mentioned the Boston Dynamics robots being
like deployed in New York.
And that kind of, like, just hearing them talk about that as like, this is my day to day as like a person of color walking through New York City and this is my response to it.
And when I say gut reaction, I don't mean like thoughtless.
I just mean like it doesn't have to be the result of kind of, well, we looked at all the studies.
They're just like, no motherfucker.
I know they're going to like make a robot dog jump at me.
Yeah.
So you're one of those weirdos that thinks that interacting with people from various backgrounds and stuff like that might give you new perspectives on things.
You're one of those woke weirdos?
I'm one of those freaks, man.
I'm a hippie.
That's me.
I'm one of those woke, hippie freak weirdos that thinks you can learn from people that have had
different experiences than you.
I don't mean to go too far out on a land.
Well, you know, we can edit it out.
It's fine.
Okay.
Do you broach politics in your stand-up?
Because I may be, maybe I'm completely mistaken here.
I don't remember it being a huge part of your act.
Am I wrong?
And if so, can you just be polite and pretend I'm not?
not. Well, my special that came out last year in 2022, People Pleaser, it's not especially political,
not topical at all, really. And part of that was I was doing stand-up in person for the first time,
like live stand-up dates for the first time in like a year and a half. And I'd been working in rooms
where like when I had political stuff that I wanted to inject into conversation, I would pitch it
for TV. And like maybe if something, excuse me, didn't make it to air, I would kind of scoop it back up.
But I think I hadn't been doing a lot of topical stand-up because I hadn't been on stage that much.
Right. My previous, like, audio-only albums, there's a little more topical stuff on it. And in a lot of
ways, I'm like very glad that it's there. But in other ways, it really does kind of date the
albums a little bit, which is like, fun because it's like, hey, here's, this is this year.
my, or this three-year period in which I was generating this new hour. And these are the things
that I was thinking of and kind of the world I was swimming through that helped, you know,
inform this material. And then this new hour that I'm touring with now is like a little less political.
I just find the speed at which politics moves, unless you have such a good bit about like Roe versus
Wade in the Supreme Court, et cetera. It just like, I don't spend a ton of time working on topical
material that like in three weeks you're going to have to go like, okay, remember to the audience?
Like remember when this happened? Like unless you're talking about something that's so big or so
obscure that you're just generating that context night after night just to like bring people up to
speed anyway, it feels like you're building a sand castle as the tide is about to reach high tide.
You know, you're like so I, but I do have on in this new hour, I have like a pretty fair amount of
stuff that I talk about that feels relevant to culture.
and like discourse, let's say, as it's happening.
You know, I have a bit that I've been working on about having an ex from years and years ago
who recently transitioned and the kind of our relationship now and how that's changed it
and like why it has or hasn't changed our relationship as friends.
And I've tried to do that in a way that is like both fun and funny to present to audiences,
but also really like compassionate and generous and fair to this person who is in my life.
And on top of that, represents the issue of, like, transitioning, you know, and gender affirming care in a way that is not ridiculing.
So I think it's like, I always start from kind of like, here's what I've been up to.
And then sometimes, I mean, a lot of the time I think that intersects with like, here's where culture is.
And like, this is my thoughts on it from me, like a dumb ass who doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
Right.
But wouldn't it be easier to just make cheap and hacky jokes about it?
There's certainly a lane for that.
I'm not good at that.
And by that, I don't mean, oh, I have too much integrity to be.
By that, I mean, I have no idea what people like.
And so I just do the thing that I like.
I truly, I like, there are moments where I'm like, oh, this is not cruel.
But like, this is my play.
It's not at a project that I want to work on that I think is like going to be a big,
crowd pleasing sellouty maneuver.
And then people like, oh, we don't like that.
And like, well, I might as well do what makes me laugh.
That's so funny. Speaking of not knowing what people like, how do you rate Trump as a comedian?
Apart from the fact that he's a clear and present danger to America and the world.
Yeah, a monster, like a cruel person.
Like, yeah, separate the art from the artist, Josh.
There were moments. There still are that he, there was something that he posted on a truth
social that got shared on Twitter that I like laughed out loud at where I'm like, man, this guy,
I think there are moments where he is very funny, which is unfortunate because he is like truly
his existence in the world
endangers so many people
in America, internationally.
The psychology of his own immediate family
is always at risk, the longer
he is around torturing them.
But there were a couple moments. I mean,
the one that really got me, and maybe
I'm misremembering it, like maybe this is
Mandela a factor. I'm retconning it.
Although I do feel we're just using Nelson Mandela
and Donald Trump in the same sentence.
But during an early Republican debate
in late 2015, early 2016,
Jeb Bush said something about like, my brother kept our country safe for eight years.
And Trump kind of went, I mean, well, there was the, you know.
And it like, I was like, God, what an indecorous, rude.
It just like really felt like outside of the way people talk about politics.
I was like, what a brutal, like Jeb Bush should have just walked off the stage after that.
Just being like, I have been exposed as a charlatan and a clown.
before I let you go, you're hitting the road later this month?
I'm doing like, it's going to be 20-something cities in the next five-ish months,
and I'm really excited.
I did kind of the first leg of this tour, September through January,
and then have been mostly home for the last couple months.
And then I go, it's like Wilmington, North Carolina in April,
and then May is Spokane, Seattle, Philadelphia,
and then June, I, like, am all over the southeast,
and I'm going down through California.
California where I haven't toured in a while. And I'm just like really excited. My hope is to record
this new hour in the fall. And so I'm really like hitting the road hard and and fleshing it out
and trying to make sure that it speaks to people all around the country, but still feels like the
things that I want to say when I'm like in my cozy alternative comedy venues in Brooklyn.
Well, catch Josh if you can. He's one of the best standups out there. Follow him on Twitter.
Check out. That's Marvelous on Substack. Josh, thanks.
so much for coming on. I really appreciate it. Thank you, Andy. This is a blast. Thanks for talking to me.
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