The Daily Beast Podcast - Trump Asked Kid Rock About North Korea and There Is No Bottom

Episode Date: March 27, 2022

 Kid Rock of all damn people is boasting about how Donald Trump would call him up after Sarah Palin introduced him and Ted Nugest to the president, and ask things like “What do you think we could do about North Korea?” “I’m like, What? I don't think I'm qualified to answer this.” Then again, it could always be worse with this set. As Molly asks, “Do you think Kid Rock is stupider than Junior?” And, notes Andy, at least Kid Rock “was self-aware enough to know that he shouldn't be talking, giving advice about North Korea.” Plus, Florida Agriculture Commissioner and gubernatorial candidate Nikki Fried — who went to high school with Judge Jackson — joins to explain how she won office in a red state and her bid to become its first female governor. She says the party needs to “follow my lead” to win again in the Sunshine State: Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hi, I'm Molly Zhang Fast, no relationship to Kim Jong-un. I'm a left-wing pundant and a writer at the Atlantic Info. And I'm Andy Levy, former Fox News and CNN HLN guy and current cable news conscientious objective. And I'm producer Jesse Cannon, and I'm here to make sure things don't go too far off the rails. We're here to have fun, smart, conversations with the wisest and funniest people in science and media and politics that help make what's happening today clearer. Our world has been turned upside down, and on the new abnormal, we'll talk about the people who got us into this mess and how we'll hopefully get ourselves out of it. Hello, and welcome to another Sunday bonus episode of the new abnormal. We thank you so much for being here. Today we have a special guest with Nikki Fried, who's of course Florida's Commissioner of Agriculture, who's also running to be governor in the state and is currently trying to win the Democratic primary down there.

And we're going to talk to her about what's going on down there and all the fuckery under DeSantis. But first, let's have some fun. All right, are you guys ready to listen to some clips? Hell yeah. So in the midst of all the Supreme Court confirmation, there was a lot of interviews done that weren't just the stupidity we saw on the floor because some of these senators weren't allowed to sit on the panel.

And we had one Senator Mike Braun of Indiana did an interview where he said something very, very, very dumb. So you would be okay with the Supreme Court leaving the question of interracial marriage to the states? Yes, I think that that's something that if you're not wanting the Supreme Court to weigh in on issues like that, you're not going to be able to have your cake and eat it too. I think that's hypocritical. There it is. Tell me you're a racist without telling me you're a racist.

No, no, he's just a strict constitutionalist, Molly. That's right. And Constitution says, I mean, these fuckers, that one I saw that I thought, like, Like, they're never going to be happy. They're not going to be happy when they take away abortion. Right. They want to go back to the times of antebellum. This ends with, you know, like, less and less rights.

And it's funny because, like, I remember thinking before the 2016 election, well, like, Trump won't get elected. But even when he did, I thought, well, it's so terrible, but they'll get what they want and they'll see how much it sucks. And they didn't. They were thrilled. And then when Trump started killing his own people and telling them that the virus, wasn't a big deal. I thought, well, he'll kill his own people and they'll say, like, this guy's a monster. But it seems like he can pretty much do anything and these Republicans can pretty much do anything and they don't notice that it's against their interests. Yeah, but this is, like, this is the stuff that is,

like you said, they want to go back to antebellum times, which, yeah, that's probably not wrong. But the most charitable thing you can say about them is that they want to go back to the 1950s. Like, that's the latest time frame you can give them, is the 50s. They all think that the 1950s were grand, and it was the white picket fences, and, you know, the nuclear families that all loved each other. And, like, to them, that's the Garden of Eden, is that. And they don't care that, first of all, that never really existed. And second of all, like, to the extent that existed, it existed for white Christians only.

and wasn't even so great for white Christian women, but they don't care. Like, that is their, that's the end game. And I really do think that that is the stuff that is truly important to them. Like the economic stuff, you know, they'll say, you know, they'll say the magic words like free market and deregulation and whatever. But ultimately, they don't really care about that stuff. What they really care about is returning the culture to what they think was its ideal state,

which, again, and they want to paint that state, as being like, you know, it's, oh, when people were, and this is when they usually throw in Martin Luther King's quote about judging people by the content of their character, i.e., the only Martin Luther King quote, they know. Right. And they only know a very small part of it. Yeah. And they think, like, to them, they think that's what America was like until the 1960s, until these, you know, long-haired hippies started coming in and, you know, with their sex and their drugs and their rock and roll. Like, that's these people.

people, they are the same people. These are the people who, if they were alive in the 1950s, they thought Elvis on the Ed Sullivan show was too much, you know, with the hip shaking. And that's what they want us to go back to. So yeah, like when you say it doesn't stop with abortion, I could not agree more. They go after abortion first. There's already talk about, well, we'll get to the other stuff that they want to name off of that. But then you go all the way back to Mike Braun, who now, by the way, says, oh, he wasn't really paying attention to the question. But if you listen to was answering. Yes, he was. He absolutely was. He knew what he was answering. Times that people make gaffes, that there's times where somebody has the confidence where they're

going, I've said this so many times before in private. I've thought about this so much. Right. But I think the important part of the Mike Braun situation is that this is not even a senator who is particularly held up as a radical. I mean, he's sort of thought of as more of a kind of, you know, moderate senator. And I mean, it brings me. me back to this thought with the wine where he signed permitless carry. You know, this guy who's held up on CNN as a

moderate is signing permitless carry. Like, these are not moderates. There are no moderates left in this party. But that's what I was going to say. They are moderates in the sense that these are, you know, this culture stuff is the moderate, it's the mainstream Republican opinion. And, you know,

there are some of them hide it better than others. And some of them don't agree with that. I don't want to, I don't want to paint every Republican with that brush. But this particular one saying out loud that interracial marriage should be a state issue, you're not going to find too many Republicans saying that out loud, but I don't know that they would, that most Republicans wouldn't disagree with his logic there, which is basically that it's not the federal government's business if states want to discriminate. That was the pre-civil Rights Act way they thought, and nothing's changed, really.

Well, to back you two up, we have a quote from one of our worst, uh, senators, Ms. Marsha Blackburn, where she basically backs you guys up and talks about how she wants to ban birth control. Over the past few weeks, I've heard a lot of liberal activists argue that this shouldn't matter. When they look at the Supreme Court, all they see is a rubber stamp for their cultural agenda. The idea, a biased policymaker justice, appeals to them because they've prioritize results over reasoning. After all, choosing heroes and villains is much easier when all you care about is getting the result you want. The chaos that ensues when the court abandons the Constitution and kicks at moving goalposts doesn't really matter to them, but it should.

Constitutionally unsound rulings like Griswold v. Connecticut, Keelow v. City of New London, NFIB versus Sebelius confused Tennesseans and left Congress wondering who gave the court permission to bypass our system of checks and balances. Yeah, birth control. Why the hell are we even letting people have birth control? You know, I wonder when I listen to those, I think to myself, like, there's a staffer who wrote this. Yeah, it's teleprompter for sure. Right.

But also, like, there's a staffer who wrote this. Like the only thing more demented than the person saying it is probably the person who wrote it. It's hard to, I don't know that I agree with that because I think the person who wrote its job is to write what they think the person who says it believes. Right. I think the person who says it is, you know, if it's written specifically for them, I think they're the more deranged. But this is exactly it, Molly, and this is exactly like first it's row, then it's like Griswold. they're now starting to say out loud. You know, she's not the first one to talk about it.

I know. But she's not the first, she's not the first one to say that quiet part out loud. Like that's now, that's now, you know, that's become pretty much mainstreamed, unlike the loving case, which Senator Braun. Yeah. He decided to. Racial marriage is now. Yeah. He decided to take that one out of the lockbox.

That's exactly it. And that's why, you know, again, Molly, every time you say. they're not going to stop with abortion. All I can do is not an agreement because that's exactly right. It's like first it's Roe, then it's Griswold, then it's God knows what's... I mean, Kilo, I actually agree with Iran, because that's about eminent domain. But that's, you know, neither here nor there, because that's not a cultural issue. It's these cultural issues that where they just, you know, they will not be satisfied

until, you know, a woman's place is in the kitchen. You know, the rhythm method is the only, the only legally sanctioned form of birth control. it's not even a joke anymore. Like it was easy to make jokes about it, but it's not funny anymore because they're saying it out loud. Right. No, I agree. It's like being in hell.

Yeah, I just can't even wrap my head around it. There was a lot of crazy shit that happened. So speaking of crazy shit that happened, we're always uncovering nice little tidbits of how the sausage got made in the Trump administration. After one Kid Rock did a interview with one Tucker Carlin, Carlson, we discovered some of his input on policy.

Would you guys like to hear that? I mean, I want to die, but yes, let's hear it. Where'd you meet Trump? I'm going to meet Trump. Oh, at the White House. Sarah Palin asked him to, you know, was friendly with her. Early, right, we got elected, he invited her to dinner and said, bring some interesting people. So she said she called me and Ted, Ted Nugent, and was like, hell yeah.

ended up there. We ended up becoming buddies and spent a lot of time in the golf course now and really weird get phone calls from and stuff is just kind of mind-blowing

What's you like to play golf with? Awesome. So much fun. Really? Why? He just knows how to have fun. Doesn't take it too seriously. Yeah.

You know, he's engaging. It's just, you're just cutting it up. Just open with politics. And I was there with him one day when he ended the caliphate. He wanted to put out a tweet. And it was like,

I don't like to speak out of school. I hope I'm not, but it's something like, he's like, tell him like, yeah, the tweet was that I'm paraphrasing, but it's like, you know, if you ever joined the Caliphate, you know, and try to do this, you're going to be dead. He goes, what do you think? I go, awesome. Yeah, tweet that out. I was like, I can't add anything better than that. But then it comes out, and it's very, it's reworded and more political and like, you know, a little politically correct.

And I'm like, just being pretty, you know, we're looking at maps. I'm like, you know, I'm like, am I supposed to be like in on the shit? I make dirty records sometimes. I do it here. You didn't think you'd have a hand. What do you think we should do about North Korea? I'm like, what?

I don't think I'm qualified to answer this. Yeah, there you go. My first thought there is if Sarah Palin was told to bring interesting people and she brought Ted Nugent and Kid Rock, she doesn't know any interesting people. My first thought was like, you think Kid Rock, it's stupider than junior? No.

I'm not convinced. I mean, I feel like he's basically the same as Trump's kids. Like, I mean... Yeah, makes sense. Yeah, I'm actually surprised he was self-aware enough to know that he shouldn't be talking, giving advice about North Korea. Like, that surprised me. Yeah, exactly.

I mean, I think that that's my hot take. My favorite kid rock thing, which is not in that clip. But anyway, I think it was from that same interview, was he said that he's uncancelable because he don't give a fuck. Like literally nobody is trying to cancel Kid Rock. A lot of people are making fun of his latest songs because they're God awful. But nobody is trying to cancel him. Like we're just, we're not trying to cancel you, buddy.

We're laughing at you. Like, you know, stick around. You're entertaining. Like, we're entertained by how bad your music is. Well, I also feel like there's a sense with these guys are just having fun. Like, they're just having a great time with the presidency. He's meeting powerful people. And I mean, Trump did this to get more famous.

Like, he may have enjoyed it. He may have loved the corruption. But ultimately, he did this to get more famous friends. Like, and to have more fun and to rob the United States. Like, so it's great that Kid Rock really enjoys Trump. But it is like a real, you really see how, how sort of unseriously they all take it. But again, it's just sad. It's like he did this to become more famous and meet famous people and he ended up with Kid Rock.

Well, that's famous to him. No, yeah, I guess that's true. But it's like, I think Donald Trump not being president could have met Kid Rock. I don't think he need to be president to meet Kid Rock. I got a sneaking suspicion. Kid Rock was a big fan of Trump Stakes. Yeah, probably. The waters.

Nikki Fried is Florida's commissioner of agriculture and is running for the Democratic nomination to be the governor of Florida. Welcome back to the new abnormal, Nikki Fried. Well, it's so good to be back with you. It's been, I feel like so long, but it shouldn't be. In my mind, it feels like a long time because I like you, but it's pretty, I think it's pretty reason. But time has no meaning anyway, so. Exactly.

Talk to me about what's happening. You are running for Florida governor. You have a Democratic primary when? So the Democratic primary is at the end of August. So we've got one of the latest primaries in the country, which doesn't really help, considering that we've got to almost instantaneously get out of the primary and start working on the November election, which is why we are just really focused on having the right message, talking to everybody, regardless of their Democrat, Republican, independent. Because look, our state's divided right now.

Our country is divided. And there's so much hatred and they could tree out there right now. And you know what? That's not what the people want to hear. The people want to hear that their government is working for them, that there's so many issues that are impacting their everyday lives between rent and housing and, you know, just affordability of our state. And we've got a governor here that spends a considerable amount of time just scapegoating different groups in our state and going after different demographics and not doing what a governor is supposed to do, which is just leading and working for the people. So let's talk about how you got to be the third most powerful elected official in Florida, how you appeal to Florida voters in a way as a Democrat in a reddening

state. You know, when I was first elected in 2018 as commissioner of agriculture, it was something that people didn't expect. They did not expect me to win. It's typically a Republican seat that my predecessor had won by over almost 20 points, almost a million votes that we were able to flip. And I had a very unifying message. The issues that I campaigned on in 2018 were very simple, three Ws, water, weapons, and weed, issues that really transcendent partisan politics. and that's really how I've tried to lead our state. No one expected me to win a good Jewish girl from Miami and a seat that has been always held by men,

not just in the state of Florida, but across the entire southeast. And I rose to the occasion, fought really hard, and are showing the people of our state how to govern and how to really do things in the best interests of all people, not just those who potentially had voted for me. And now we're getting to a point that I'm, you know, maybe our first female governor of the state of Florida

and I'm doing the same thing. I'm talking about the kitchen table issues, the things that, you know, keep people up at night and with a unifying message across the board. And, you know, we've got, I keep talking to my Republican friends. I said, come take back your party. We need a strong Republican party just as much as we need a strong Democratic Party. That's how democracy works. And that's unfortunately not what's happened here in our state as we've had one party control our state for now almost 25 years. So explain to me, but because remember this is a national podcast, some of us live in fly. but many of us don't because we see Ron DeSantis every day, you know, banning trans athletes, making a show of it, fighting with Disney, fighting with cruise ship companies. But tell me what are the real issues you see voters in Florida struggling with? You know, it's the same issues that we're seeing across the country, but even more so here in the state. I mean, I hear it every day from Floridians all across our state, from Key West to Orlando to Tampa to Jacksonville to the Panhandle. It is is a consistent drumbeat that people can't afford to live here. You know, that we continue to bring more people into our state, almost a thousand plus people every day that are moving here,

but the people that actually live here are struggling. Rent is increasing by over 50% in some areas. And that's not just for low-income families. That's for our middle class as well. You know, I'm hearing it from all demographics, from people that have just graduated from college or university, to our teachers, to our first responders, to people that are working in our tourist industry, to those that are our frontline workers, everybody is struggling. And if you are on a fixed income, a 50% increase in your rent is just no longer affordable. And the same thing when it comes to the housing market. Homes are no longer affordable. That American dream is slipping away from so many Floridians right now. You know, we always were sold that if you get a job, you go to

school, you have a good paying job, you're going to be able to afford a home. And that's just not the case anymore. People can't afford a home here on our state. They can't afford their property insurance, which has gone through the roof. Obviously, you know, property taxes have increased when valuations are gone, you know, so high. And it's just becoming unattainable. And so we're seeing a lot of people wanting to or having to think about leaving the state because I just can't be here. And that's so unfortunate and so heartbreaking. And I'm hearing it every day. day. And unfortunately, we have a legislature that just adjourned a week and a half ago passed a $112 billion budget. And none of it addressed any of these issues, including our

increase of our gas tax. You know, we know that, you know, gas prices are, you know, impacting people across the entire country. But you're seeing governors across our country step up and try to help the people. Here in the state of Florida, they passed a gas tax that goes into impact in October, you know, right before an election. Not impacting people today, we're seeing high increase of cost for even food because I talk to my ad community every day. And they're telling me that the increase of gas is obviously impacting the cost of their production of food. And so there's so many things that we could be doing today that we have not addressed. And unfortunately, the whole entire world watched after the devastating impact of Surfside down in Miami and watched, you know, the aftermath of that.

and we had an opportunity this legislative session to come in and fix some of the condo laws. But once again, industries and corporations prevailed, and they walked out of legislative session with no piece of legislation to impact something like Surfside and to really look at ways to protect lives. I was just about to ask you about Surfside because I think that's an issue, first of all, lots and lots of people died in a completely avoidable tragedy that was caused by a lack of government. regulation, right? Like if there had been inspections, scheduled inspections the way there should have been that people would have seen the cracks in the concrete. I mean, this is something that could have been prevented and avoided. And so I was curious. And it's something that, as we know, as sea levels rise, and there's more weather, and there's more salt water and there's more salt in the air,

this is going to get, this is going to even move faster. So we're going to have more and more of this and there was no legislation to fix it? No, no legislation to fix it. And, you know, it's kind of a three-prong problem. You know, first off, we used to have a five-year inspection. Unfortunately, one of my opponents in the primary signed piece of legislation rolling those regulations back. You can just tell us who that is.

You know, it was during the Charlie Chris administration. He sided with developers and, you know, signed this legislation that rolled back that inspection. And so now there's a 30-year inspection. And that's too long, especially with some of these older buildings. And so that's one aspect. Here's the other problem with our condo laws is that if you've got a community like, you know, those that are living in Southside in this specific building that are on fixed incomes, a lot of retirees, a lot of people that, you know, come down here to Florida that are now

on fixed incomes. And if you potentially have, let's say, you know, a $50 million assessment, to fix the infrastructure of the building. And you've got people that aren't fixed incomes. What are they supposed to do? Are you supposed to assess your neighbors, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars? Or do we need to start coming up with other ideas and other plans

to put money into trusts and be able to figure out another game plan here? And then, of course, the third prong, it is the fact that you're absolutely right, that sea level is rising and the saltwater intrusion that's coming into the coastal communities. and I was born and raised in Miami. My great-grandmothers, you know, I remember going down there almost every weekend, down to up to Miami Beach where they lived, and those buildings are still in existence.

And unfortunately, you know, have to look at the fact that sea water is rising and is intruding into these buildings. And if we don't do something about this, we could have some additional, you know, buildings that are compromised in the future. And you saw everybody really, you know, taking a second look at, you know, buildings and whether or not they're going into these condos and it's something that needed to be addressed and unfortunately they left session without it. It should have been a special session. That should have been called almost instantaneously immediately after Surfside and to go into

there and try to fix these issues and get to the bottom of it. But this is what's wrong with Tallahassee and what's wrong with politics today. That, you know, people come together and they fight and it's industry versus industry and nothing gets accomplished. You know, it's funny because I was thinking about in Texas where you also have a very performative Republican governor, Abbott, he has this power grid that is, you know, they're not on the national grid. Their grid is constantly failing. We had people freeze to death. And Abbott is focused on women's sports and abortion and, you know, all the stuff that has nothing to do with like actually providing service for his people. and constituents, and I wonder how much you think this performative Trumpism is really getting in the way of what a governor is supposed to be doing?

Oh, 100%. You know, everybody's trying to get to that, you know, sacred Trump supporter and go, it's not even right anymore. You know, it's not even left or right because, you know, my dad is a diehard Republican. I was brought up in a household where I heard what the Republican, you know, mantra was, less government, less taxes, less spending. home role and free market. Those are five fundamental principles of the Republican Party. Not up today. That is not any of the principles of the Republican Party today, true conservatism, where I see those actually are things that I am pushing for. You know, less taxes, less spending, home rule, free market. And unfortunately, the Republican Party today is more focused on creating, doesn't exist, creating culture wars in our states and our country. And, dropping the ball on economic issues that are really what people care about. People aren't going to be sitting. You know, if somebody is, you know, a waitress and she's working two shifts, just barely

making ends meet. And her rent is being increased by almost $500 a month. She doesn't want to look up at a TV screen when she gets home and see her governor yelling at kids about masks or or talking about NCAA swimming, she wants to know how her governor and her government are going to help her have a good quality of life, you know, raising her standards of living while lowering her costs. And she's not seeing that from her governor. And that's unfortunate because that's not how government is supposed to work. Yeah. Is it that Fox News has sort of taken over the Republican Party? And so everyone, I mean, I was watching these hearings yesterday and I was thinking, these people don't, it's like they don't even know where they are. They just want to get on Fox.

Yeah, I think that's part of the problem. And I just think that they're tone deaf. You know, because I can tell you, I'm traveling our state. And it is large. And I'm talking to all sectors of our state, you know, from economic differences to cultural differences to geographic differences, different, you know, backgrounds of where you come from, you know, people that have, you know, fled Latin American countries to people that have been here for generations. And it is a consistent conversation about the economy. So the people that are in Republican leadership today are just toned up. They are just not listening anymore to the people that are on the ground. I don't know if they've gotten on these, you know, white horses and believe that they are just morally superior to everybody

else. But these aren't the conversations that are happening in churches. These aren't the conversations that are happening in restaurants and, you know, around dinner tables with family members. And I don't, I don't know what's happening in. in our society that people in leadership and Republican Party and elected officials have become so disconnected to the people that they're supposed to govern. And they're so focused on your right, getting on Fox News, getting the latest of, you know, whatever the new social media platform is and creating these divisive issues. When the country wants to come together, you know, we are seeing what's happening in Ukraine.

And my God, how the Ukrainians are standing up against a bully and are uniting. And the people of our country are uniting. They are supportive of our president and are supportive of financial sanctions. Well, not everybody. You've got a governor here in the state of Florida who has made one comment. I've asked him now for two and a half weeks to divest almost $300 million of our pension fund. From Russia. Yeah, from Russia.

And so that money is probably worth zero. So now that this, you know, guy who's supposed to be a custodian of our retirement pension fund just lost 300. million of our hardworking money. But everybody else across the entire country is unified and wanting to support Ukraine. And that's what it's supposed to be. You know, this is a time when America is supposed to show what America is about patriotism, freedom, democracy, and unity. We're United States of America. And unfortunately, you've got Republican governors and certainly watching the display of what's happening up in Washington, D.C. right now with the historic Supreme Court nominee that they again are using that that you know those microphones to and again create

these culture wars instead of recognizing this historic moment and judge jackson who i also went to high school with so proud proud of our miami and public defender background is one of the most qualified to have ever been in that seat for nomination right and they're creating these culture wars of course i mean that is shockingly horrible i mean what they're doing is particularly grotesque demigots have had problems with Florida. What could Democrats do as a party that might help them in Florida? Follow my lead. Tell us what you really think. Look, you know, as the only Democrat to have one in almost 20 years into a cabinet position, I understand the messaging. I understand what the needs are of the

people. I talk to them every single day. The Democrats need to understand once again that it is always about the economy. It always has been and always will be. Of course, of course, we have to stand up and we have to fight and we have to advocate for our people and for our principles. But at the end of the day, the people of our state want leaders. They don't want their elected officials to be falling into these cultural war traps, which Republicans are trying to do. We have an opportunity under my leadership to bring our party together, to unite our party and to fight for fundamental principles that, you know, we might be, you know, have been, you know, electing Republican governors for 25 years, but it's by the smallest of margins by less than 1%. Ron DeSantis won by 34,000 votes out of

8.2, almost 8.3 million votes. Right. So 34,000. Right. So to say that our state is read, it is not consistent with how we vote. And for those same 25 years, the people of our state have consistently voted for very progressive constitutional amendments. whether it is a $15 minimum wage to medical marijuana, to environmental issues, to restoration of civil rights. But we as Democrats have not done a good enough job running campaigns and to make sure that we are on the same page as the rest of the people of our state. So we have to take really kind of some playbooks by the Republicans on the economy, on home rule, on free market. But really, we've got to rise above this chaos and this nonsense. Be ready to fight.

There's no one out there who doesn't know that I am not willing and able to throw punches. and most of the times I land them. Make the governor squirm every time that we're in the same room together. And that's what it's going to take is to stand up against this bully and show the people of our state that there is a better way to lead. Yeah. Thank you so much, Nikki, Fred. Thanks, Molly.

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