The Daily Beast Podcast - Trump's Disgusting Bedroom Habit Exposed: Wolff

Episode Date: November 28, 2025

Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to take a deep dive into Donald Trump’s relationship with food. From his legendary buffets at Mar-a-Lago and his fast-food devotion to McDonald’s, Jimmy John’s, and oversized desserts, Wolff maps out the culinary habits that reflect Trump’s personality and comfort zones. They discuss the White House dining struggles, state dinners he barely touches, and the unusual quirks—from eating in his bedroom to a Diet Coke button at his desk. Along the way, Wolff unpacks how Trump’s palate, fears, and routines give a window into his larger-than-life persona. Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago has never been more telling. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I know when he got to the White House, in 2017, there was a kind of major kerfuffle about this, because, A, he didn't like to eat in the dining room. He liked to eat in his bedroom. He liked to eat in his bedroom. Yeah, in the bed, I suppose. So wait a minute. In the White House, he eats in his bedroom on his bed. Yes.

When he originally got there, it really sounded like he was. was, you know, like the feral child. Michael. Joanna. So. Back again. Back again. Here we are.

I thought today we could focus on Trump's relationship with food. Since it is Thanksgiving, that would be a good choice. It's Thanksgiving. And I imagine, is he having turkey? What's going on inside his head at Mar-a-Lago? So is this an unlimited all-you-can-eat buffet? What is his Thanksgiving dinner? Yes, first, well, I don't know.

So we're going to have to just imagine this. But I have a sneaking suspicion. The Thanksgiving dinner will be a lunch spread, and it might be at the golf club. The golf club is not Mar-a-Lago. The golf club is about 15 minutes away, but that's where the buffets happen. Right. Trump loves a buffet.

And the staff, the people, the Trump people point out, they love to point out. This is not like a, like a, you know, hotel buffet, which have been really devalued over the years. Right. This is like the old-fashioned. buffet, everything. They say the stations. They refer to the stations with some, some reverence. So what are that? There's like hams, steak. There's the hams, the pork station, the beef station, and the lobster station. So you can get your own individual lobster. I'm channeling the way people talk about this. I mean, they speak of this as a real kind of, you know, achievement to be able to go to the buffet at the golf club.

Well, and it speaks to a certain lavishness and luxury lifestyle that we thought of in the sort of 60s and 70s. When the buffet was before the buffet just became a lot of steam trays. Right. They say that no steam trays. They say that no steam tray. And what is the steam? The steam tray is the thing underneath it that keeps. it war. Yeah, it's just that, you know, I mean, in most of these places, you know, your Marriott

buffets across the country is just, Marriott is not a sponsor, are they? No, they're not a, but we'd like you to be a sponsor, Marriott. So if you're listening, if you're listening, and if you were a sponsor, I wouldn't be saying this about your rockin buffets. Truthfully, he might, but actually we could do something positive about your buffet. But anyway, it's a lot of overheated food, not at the golf club. Okay, so the golf club it's fresh meat stations. It's all made for you. Okay. Oh, it's made for you. Right there. Okay. And so you could have an omelet if you wanted. You know, you can have anything. Okay, there's an omelet station. Right. You know how big the shrimps are. They're the biggest in the world, big, big, big shrimps.

Tell me about the food at Mar-a-Lago, because I know you've eaten there. You've eaten there with Trump and Malani, which I'm so envious about. Me sitting between them. And then you never got your drink. With my hand out, just trying to get that drink, which never, ever came. Although Trump said, you want to drink? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I need a drink. And then that's it. Do you want a drink?

Yes, but no, it never came. But the menu is steak and steak and steak and steak. You know, there's the... And he likes the New York Strip. New York Strip, yes. But there's the fillet. There's the... the steak nibs. I don't even know what that is.

Steak nibs, little bits of steak that have fallen off other bits of steak. What about a tea bone? All variety. I don't, I actually like a tea bone. I don't remember that if there was a tea bone. I have the fillet. And was it good? You know, no. I mean, do they have great ingredients?

It's sort of organic meat. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's just like a menu from, you know, it's a 1965 menu. Right. And, um. So what does that mean? Prawn cocktail, steak. Yeah, yeah, big shrimp, big shrimp.

Big shrimp. Black Forest Gatto. What's the dessert? Pies. Pies. You know, like, like, big. Dyracively pies. I love pies.

But, but, but there's, but there. There's a kind of like that coconut cream pie. They like them. They like them very high and very big. Right. And then they make a big point of, look at that pie. You got to eat all that. Ha ha.

And I'm just, I'm trying to think there were some other. Yeah. And there's a piece of grilled fish, but a lonely piece of grilled fish. You don't want the fish, do you? Right. I mean, you're a pansy if you take the fish. Even though your body. the Gulf of Mexico?

The Gulf of America. The Gulf of America. What does Melania eat? Can you remember what she ordered? No, I can't. Oh, Michael. Details, details. I failed on that.

But there's so much happening. You know, I mean, a lot happening that you're trying to focus on in addition to getting the drink. So does Trump himself have disordered eating? Well, Yeah, I mean, I would say if orderly eating is somewhat of a broad palate, he certainly does.

I mean, it's incredibly limited. I mean, it's basically limited to beef. And does he have any vegetables? So he loves burgers and he loves state? Yeah, I've never heard a reported vegetable. But I know when he got to the White House in 2017, there was a kind of major kerfuffle about this because, A, he didn't like to eat in the dining room. He liked to eat in his bedroom.

He liked to eat in his bedroom. Yeah, in the bed, I suppose. So wait a minute. In the White House, he eats in his bedroom on his bed. Yes, well, maybe he's gotten, I don't know, I'm not up to date on this, so perhaps he's been more socialized. I mean, he's had a lot of time now. But when he originally got there, it really sounded like he was, you know, like the feral child. But also maybe he was exhausted by the day or he was overwhelmed by people that he didn't know, and so he retreated to his room. Possibly. I don't. Yeah, and it was a kind, and it was always a burger. And then he wanted.

actually his preference was to send out for the burger and the White House, the Secret Service then apparently, you've got to, you know, we cook our food here. And this is a, but that was a tussle about that, about that. So serious question, given that we know of at least two attempts on his life, and then obviously there was the Iranian threat on him. Does he ever worry, does he have a food tester? Well, his food tester is Mr. McDonald. that is one of the reasons. And this is, I mean, this fact has been out there, but I want to claim credit for it.

This was my scoop. I've had a lot of Trump food scoops, including scoops of his ice cream, which I've also had. But this scoop was that he likes, one of the reasons that he likes McDonald's is that all this food is pre-packaged. and nobody's hands touch it. Therefore, it's much safer, the safer risk of him being poisoned or random germs. It is food untouched by human hands. So is he actually a little nervous of eating the food in the White House

because he thinks people might have poisoned it? Like Putin has a food tester. No, I would say it's really more about his palate. Right. The truth is, if you have a diet, a steady diet of fast food, which is high in salt and sugar, it's really, it becomes more difficult to eat, you know, good food, healthy food. Because you lose the taste for it. Yeah, no, yeah, it doesn't. So when you were reporting from the White House for your first book and you sat there for seven months, what was lunch like?

Was stuff coming in from McDonald's? What was the sort of routine? No, I mean, there's a cafeteria in the White House, which everybody uses. And then Trump, there's a, you know, there is a little dining room off of the Oval Office. And, I mean, I never had lunch with him there, but I assume that, you know, he got his hamburger there. Which is the other interesting thing is that often he would have two hamburgers a day. so you have a hamburger for lunch and a hamburger for dinner. And what about his team that's working around him?

Are they eating healthier food? No, no, and there's a thing about that. I mean, there's an awareness that part of the job is eating fast food. Yeah, you're not going to get. It's kind of dicey. I mean, if you have any sense of what you should be eating, this is like a minefield that you're not, that you're not going to nap.

You're going to get blown up. Right. I mean, even RFK Jr., who claims that he won't eat this stuff, was eating it on the plane at the beginning, along with Elon. Yeah, no. I mean, it's, I mean, that is,

that is the, fast food is the menu. There is nothing else. And what about his relationship with alcohol? Well, I don't, I mean, he says he doesn't, I think he says he has never had a drink. And I think that that's, I mean, I don't know, he may have, he may have had a drink, but he certainly doesn't drink. And as I say, I'm trying to get that glass of wine.

A parolagone, it never comes. Without any luck whatsoever. And does Melania drink? I don't know. Good question, though. You could ask her. I could. You could definitely ask her.

We could serve. A nice bottle of wine in deposition. And what about Trump steak and Trump vodka? It's odd that he would do Trump vodka and not drink. Well, I think if somebody is going to buy it, he's fine with that. And I think if the vodka is cheap enough and the markup is high enough. Well, sadly it's no longer available. And neither is Trump steak.

Yeah, Trump wines too, I think. Yeah, Trump champagne. There was Trump champagne. There was a lot of, yeah, no, there was a lot of wine. wine, I think that was, you know, terrible, terrible, just ghastly. And sadly no longer available. Went the way of Trump University? No, and then we replaced it with Trump country.

How is it that Morgan Spurlock, who did that documentary supersized me, about eating burgers every day, died very young, and Donald Trump, who seems to exist on a junk food diet that all doctors would say, this is terrible for you, seems to have defied all logic. Well, you know, I mean, this is random. In other words, he has not maximized his chances for longevity as you do, we do, with no guarantee, by the way, that we will realize that long journey. Well, he may outlive all of us. Yes, and he is one of those people of whom there are many who defy the odds because, you know, the odds are. They're actually pretty...

What are they odd? No, they're probably already written. It's already written. Okay, it's already written. Oh, interesting that you think that. Well, it's written in your DNA. That's what it's going to be. And his DNA is apparently keeping him alive despite McDonald's.

Okay, so he likes McDonald's. He likes pizza. Yeah, so during the trial, I was particularly, fascinated by this. So the trial in in New York, Stormy Daniels, which lasted six weeks, and he had to be in court four days a week. And so, you know, so the court started at, I think, 9.30 in the morning, and then there was the lunch break. And the lunch break took place in, for him and his legal team, that took place in one of the break rooms, these break rooms, it were really, really dismal.

And kind of a long, a long room, a table, and then at the end of the room, which was just two feet from the table itself, there was the bathroom, the awkward bathroom. Right, this was the bathroom that he didn't like other people using. Yeah, no, no. The one guy who did somehow ridiculously use it, and he was expelled from the team. Anyway, Kinnis.

But so they had a fixed menu for four days. So the four days a week were pizza, McDonald's, Chick-fil-A, and Jimmy Johns. What is Jimmy Jones? It's actually a big national chain in one of his favorites. McDonald's is his favorite, but he likes Jimmy Johns. And they're around the country. There are not too many in Manhattan. And is this true that McDonald's is actually his favorite?

Or is this one small performance? And actually the reason he's managed to live as long as he has on such a terrible diet is because he's really eating, you know, salmon and salad in his bedroom. No, no, this is. This is really true. This is genuine, yes. I mean, it really is. he is a McDonald's devote.

Okay. And of course he had that brilliant moment during his campaign where he suddenly leaned out of a drive-through and it was surprised. Donald Trump is serving you your McDonald's. It was such a good moment. Yeah, no, no, no. And it is.

And maybe that is, you know, most of the country eats McDonald's. Right. And McDonald's are delicious. Just not every day. Do you think so? You don't want to know something? I haven't had one for 40 years.

but last time I had it, it was great. I'm going to tell you something, which will exclude me from a political career. I've never, ever, in my life, eaten at a McDonald's. Have you had a McDonald's in a drive-thru? No, never. I've never eaten. I've never had their McDonald's food. So McDonald's, which has...

Is that because you used to live on the Upper East Side, and now you live in the Hamptons, and there are no McDonald's in the Hamptons? Well, yeah, but I grew up in... New Jersey. Oh, fair. And I remember, I go back, so there was a, on the highway in New Jersey, Route 46, I believe. In New Jersey, it's the entirety, it's at least 60% of all conversations are about highways. Route 46, you take 46, no, you know, you did 208. What about 17? Are the other parts of the conversation about the people who've come from there, because it was William Carlos Williams, who are the other people that came from?

But it's not, no, not too much, mostly highways. But there was a McDonald's, Route 46, I believe, that said over 5 million Big Macs sold. Five million. What are we now at? Five trillion. Right. So my whole life has been the story of the expansion of McDonald's, but I've never had one. Okay, that's weird that you've never had one.

I'm going to bring you one in and make you eat it live. on YouTube. But, and I actually told Trump that I never had a McDonald's. What did he say? Ignored. Ignored. He doesn't care about you. Yes.

I hate to break it to you. He doesn't care about you. It's all about him. No, no. Okay. So, so he loves McDonald's. He loves pizza. He loves Jimmy Johns.

He also likes sweets. Not just sweets. Candy. Okay. I'm saying sweets in the English sense of the word. So meaning, I mean, those things that you have in your pockets and people have in bowls here. Yeah, no. And it says he says, he sits at his desk and he says, bring me the poison.

This was a scoop of yours. Yes. And then he comes in, then the people rush in in a big bowl. And it's Starbursts Hershey's miniatures. I'm not even sure what that is. Those little tiny bars. Laffy-taffy, milky wreathy. milkyways and tootsie rolls.

Have you had any of those? I have not. You've never had a tootsie roll? Oh, when I was a child, yes. Not since. Well, that's what's interesting. These are childish sweets, right? These are childish candies.

Yeah, candy, candy. Why isn't he's the president of the United States? Candy is for children. I mean, just think about his teeth. It's like Halloween. Oh, I don't want to think about his teeth. He seems to have nice clean tea. Well, obviously, because they're packed within an inch of their life.

Yeah, but. No, I mean, how do you eat? I can't, could you eat a candy now? Well, I can eat lilac chocolate candies, which are a delicious place in the village, which just do heavenly chocolate. But a Milky Way? Could you take a big tear out of a Milky Way?

Well, we have Milky Way's in our snack room. Actually, I lie, we have Snickers, and I like to get them and cut them up into tiny little pieces, and then I eat them slowly over the period of a week. But he, does he? he have the coconut pie at Maralago? Does he eat those kind of desserts? You know, I was waiting, I remember this, because I was kind of focused on this to see what if he would eat the dessert. And I saw the pie in front of him, but I didn't see him take a bite of it. Now, this could also be

because he's talking the whole time. I mean, remember, everybody's kind of coming up to him. It's like he's at the wedding table, and he's going blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he's going, blah, blah. I mean, an amazing nonstop. So I don't know how he could really eat. So does he eat breakfast? That I don't know. Never, never had a breakfast with Donald Trump. Because I've read that he doesn't eat breakfast

and that he powers through with Diet Coke and coffee until sort of mid-afternoon or later on me. No, and the amount of Diet Coke is you would think that alone would have fell in. Wasn't that one of your stories? Bingo, yes, it was. Like the Diet Coke button under the desk. Yes. What is that?

On the desk. On the desk. Diet Coke. They rush it in. Is that true? I always assumed that was made up. No, no, no. So he literally has a button that's powered to.

And he's always pushing it. I've never seen it on his desk. Can you see it on his desk? Well, I actually don't know. Is it on the resolute desk? It was in Mar-a-Lago. Oh, okay. But it may be.

I think it is on the resolute desk. Right. Yeah. And then someone, some poor flack comes in with a, and does he like ice or not ice? Not ice, as I recall. Okay, I'm going to. Straight up. You know, he likes hot dogs too.

The golf course is the hot dog. When he's out on the golf course, hot dogs too. He has two hot dogs. And does he have mustard or ketchup? I mean, Steve Bannon once described, he says it goes in all at once. and a toss to our sponsors. And Michael Wolf and I are back inside Trump's head. Also the staff, by the way, when you're out on the plane,

you know, when you do, you go wherever you're going and then you get back on the plane. And then there's always a fast food box on your seat. When you get back. Yeah, this is looked at as kind of like a little perk of the job. A little treat that you get chicken fingers. Yes, exactly. Right.

All right. So I've pulled up some state dinner menus, and I want you to decide if he would like it or not like it. So this is a dinner that they had in Trump 1, 2018, and this is for Emmanuel Macron. And the first course, and I love reading these because food gives people the opportunity for such pretension. Okay, this was goat cheese gatto, tomato jam, buttermilk biscuit crumbles, young variegated lettuces. Would he have eaten any of that? None of that.

Main course, rack of spring lamb. And I asked, I've asked about this. I've inquired exactly this. And he doesn't eat any of this stuff. He has a burger before, they say. He has a burger before. Right, so he just pokes it, pokes at it. All right.

And remember he's talking the whole time, of course. Right. So he had, so for Macaron, they entertained a main course, rack of spring lamb, burnt chipilini, soubis, Carolina golden rice, jambalaya, with celery, peppers, onions, herbs from the South lawn. That just feels like it would be too much for him. So he's eaten his burger and he can just then just talk.

And poor Macron is probably trying to figure out how to talk back and eat a little bit. Yeah, you know, a sort of untold story is that actually the food in the White House is terrible. Is it? Oh, yeah. It's like, you know. It's like made-up food. It's, you know, I mean, it's, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like going to a wedding. Which is significant in terms of the poor East Wing still laying there's a pile of rubble,

because presumably it'll be banquet food when they get that up and running as a ballroom, won't it? Oh, of course, yeah. I mean, it's always, I mean, you know, it's American banquet food. American banquet food. All right. So here's the dinner they had in honor of Scott Morrison in 2019, who was then, I think, Prime Minister of Australia, start a sunchoke ravioli under a lemon parmigiano reggiano sauce.

Main course. Now, that sounds like, hmm, that would be, that's literally something that nobody is going to eat. Nobody's going to eat. And also the main course is Dover-Soul with fennel, Mussolene, and a rich Hollande. So there's a lot of sauces going on. You go from cheese sauce to a rich Olendaze made with whipped cream. And also...

Also, Doversoll. You don't want mass-produced is Doverso. Doversoll, you got to do on the bone and then you've got to filet it. Obviously, they didn't do that. It is obviously not Doversoll. Oh, interesting. Some cheap. Right, okay.

And then... Doversole. Doversoe. Right. My ass. Okay. All right. Right, so, so what is he eating?

You think he's having steak for Thanksgiving? Oh, actually, you know what I found? I found the, I just want to do one more banquet. No, I think he's having a hamburger for Thanksgiving. He's having a hamburger because that's what he wants. Okay, so I wonder if he ate a hamburger before the famous dinner at Windsor Castle when, of course, that very clever guerrilla team put on your face on the side of Windsor Castle and Jeffrey Epstein's face.

I can't believe we got through an episode. I think we got through our last two. Tuesday's episode without mentioning the word Epstein once. Maybe that's not true. What a loss. Anyway, what a loss. What a loss. But here's what the king served up.

It's always useful to know these things. If you're not invited to state dinners, this is what they're eating. The Jeffrey Epstein food, just we could digress. It was also terrible. There was a lot of it, and he always were offered anything you wanted. Didn't soon ye previn have to teach him how to cater? Yeah, I think that there was a story. story about that, yes. But it was, you know, I mean, he had a lot of the cooks and, I mean,

in my experience, all private chefs are terrible and the reason they're private chefs is that they can't get a job in a restaurant. But. I never thought of that. But the food, no, the Epstein food was terrible and Epstein was not interested in food. Epstein and Trump were, you know, very much the same. Both they didn't drink. They both. Neither of them drank. Yeah, they both would have preferred to revert to a hamburger, no matter what was, what else might be available. All conversations took place around Jeffrey Epstein's dining room table, a dining room table, which I would say comfortably would see, I don't know, you know, 30, I mean, a very large. Peronial style table. Yes, table. And then presumably there are not 30 people there,

so everybody was sort of congregated down at the end. And as soon as you arrive, and people arrive from breakfast through till dinner. And when they come in, Jeffrey Epstein would say, what do you want? Because there was a chef always ready to respond. And that, I've seen this many times, it would kind of catch people off guard. What do you want? I mean, then he would say, you want a keesh, you want an omelet,

you want a smoked salmon, you want, and then he would list off a long list or anything. What do you want? And then face with this, somebody would say, make the mistake of picking one. I mean, you just didn't, you know. And unfortunately, that meant everyone was, and there were always six, seven, eight more people there. And then suddenly you would be presented with a plate of food. No one else would be eating.

Oh, no. So you're the sole eater. Exactly. So, I mean, some, there might be another lonely eater. But there were a number of people who would be there who would know don't take the food. Because there's no, it's not as if lunch is being served. Right. It's just, it's this constant movable feast with you, the only one having the feast, which was awkward.

So you have to talk and then suddenly your mouth is full. No, no, that's terrible. You've got to eat with everybody else. Otherwise, it's a disaster. And I remember in your book, too famous, there's a chapter on Epstein where you talk about Erhard Barak, the former Israeli Prime Minister, arriving and demanding an egg with some caviar. Yeah, yes. Well, he turns down the omelet, and he says, I've had too many, your hospitality is measured in omelets. What did you mean by that? I'm going to pass on the omelets. As always, you know, you got there, you want an omelet. It's like this kind of thing.

But then he said, but I would have some of that caviar. And then there was a whole thing about the caviar, and Epstein didn't like the caviar, and we only keep it for you, et cetera. Okay, well, when Donald Trump was in Windsor Castle, here's what they had with the king for his most recent visit. The starter was Hampshire Watercrest Panacotta with Parmesan shortbread and quail egg salad.

Would he have eaten any of that? Not a lick. Okay. Main course, organic Norfolk chicken ballotine, wrapped in corsets, zucchini to you, served with a thyme and savory infused juice. Who writes this stuff? There must be a menu writer, a universal banquet menu writer. Well, I think this is what Andrew, formerly known as Prince Andrew, will now be eating. Now he's been banished to Norfolk.

This is the kind of thing he'll be eating. when he tips those into the kitchen at Sandringham. I don't think he's allowed into the main rooms at Sandringham, but he can stay in the below stairs. Desert, vanilla ice cream bomb with a Kentish raspberry sorbetterbay interior and lightly poached Victoria plums. Oh, well, let's talk about the ice cream, because ice cream is a very important component of the Trump diet.

Go on. So when I first, so in 2016, before, still that moment when one would regard a Trump presidency as, as ridiculous at best, preposterous even, I interviewed Trump at his house in Beverly Hills and went into the house and he greeted me and then he took me into the kitchen. He said, are you hungry? Had you had dinner beforehand or anything? I mean, you didn't interview him over dinner. You interviewed him at his house.

Yes, and it was after dinner. He had gone to a fundraiser at Tom Barrack's house. Tom Barrett, now one of his ambassadors. Yes, and a key advisor and friend and really a mainstay of Trump's political career, a person, a very mysterious person who we should come back to. But, and then he came back after that fundraiser. And he had actually said he hadn't eaten. I was at the fundraiser, blah.

I didn't eat. I'm hungry. Do you want anything? I said no, but he opened the refrigerator. And it was just filled with pints of vanilla hogendaz ice cream, like a library of. Just solely vanilla. vanilla? There was nothing

else in the refrigerator but this. Probably. Were there other refrigerations? Were you in the kitchen? I was in the kitchen. I don't know if there were, I think it was a large refrigerator. I would say, I don't know how many pint, 30, I don't know. But he took one out. I'm trying to think he took it. So I said,

do you want anything? No. He took it, not listening to that, threw it to me. I caught it, thankfully. And then he took one for himself. And then open the drawer to get a spoon. Then I had to get my own spoon. I didn't want the ice cream, but I had the, what was I going to do with it?

And then we went out into the living room. And he took, I know, in the kitchen, he took the top off. The sort of plastic wrap, I think. Yes, he took it off. And so he's eating out of that. And I did not take the top off. So I took it off there and put it on the thing. And then he said, don't put that there.

Anyway, this is... And did he eat the whole thing? Every last bit of it. That's a lot of sugar and a lot of cream. And one more, again, of course, from our sponsors, who we love. And Michael and I are back. On the campaign trail, that became people would tell me, he had shifted. He went to strawberry vanilla, and it had to be that.

And he always needed two quarts of it. Two courts, that's a lot. Right. So that's too tough. In the mini-fridge. What's the mini-fridge? You know, in the hotel. Oh.

So when they were on the road. But he always insisted on going back and sleeping in his own bag. He did, but when they had to stay overnight, he had to have those two quarts of the strawberry vanilla. Okay, so he basically eats McDonald's or burgers and vanilla ice cream and nothing else. Yeah, and the diet Coke, yeah. Right. I wish we had more details of what Melania eats. Yeah, it can't help you with that one.

Well, maybe you can ask. Yes, oh. Ask Melania, what is your diet? Even where we can serve her in the deposition. Yes, you can. And we'll see what she takes. Okay. That'll be interesting.

That'll be very interesting. All right. Well, Michael, we have Thanksgiving meals to get to. You have one to cook. I do. You have one to cook. I have one to unbox because mine's being catered and delivered to me, which I'm excited about. From Jimmy Johns, perhaps.

Who knows? I don't know where it's coming from. It's the first time I've ever let this happen, and I'm very excited. I will say I am excited to have someone else. Sounds suspicious. This is the first time. You've done this. You've cooked a Thanksgiving dinner in your whole life.

And then suddenly you have a dinner arriving from you don't know where and you're happy about it. I'm very happy about it. And I will tell you, I'm going to push back on the one thing about private chefs because at the risk of sounding super boogey, at deep times of stress in my life, I have had a private chef and it is transformative because you don't have to think about food. I don't think you like food. I'm going to here's here's my I don't think so I like food you know first thing I like food no first thing you're a Brit so you know that's a whole different standard in food and a whole level of blandness that that you can tolerate secondly the truth is most people you know don't like food don't care about food you know it's they can have you know you've been going a restaurant so long it all blends together well that's true that's true and I will say I find very stressful looking at a menu and I'm conscious this is a very privileged conversation. I'm just saying I am defending private chefs because on the occasions when I've had private

chefs for periods of my life I've found it such a relief because not to have to think about what you're feeding children is a huge relief. Yeah, well, yeah, but you've just defined, well, you've just defined what it is to have a spouse for one thing. If I were your spouse, for instance, I would be cooking for you. I've never had a spouse that cooked for you. Well, but there's,

those are different questions. Someone who takes the responsibility and the worry of food from you. Right. That's different from what is good food. True. Well, there are a lot of people watching now who I'm sure are feeling deeply stressed about having to cook their,

Thanksgiving for however many people. But maybe we'd all be happier with a burger. Well, you know, and I don't know why, because actually Thanksgiving is a very easy meal to cook. I agree with you on that. I agree with you. And the English way to cook, my way of cooking, should anyone care, is just gas mark five through everything in the oven and eventually it comes out and it's done. Apart from the potatoes. I rest my case.

Apart from the potatoes, which need to be cooked at a much higher heat. Anyway, it's the one thing I'm miscooking this year. I still would give it all up to go to Mara Lago for Thanksgiving. We have to smuggle ourselves in. Well, no, you should go before this life ends to Mara Lago. I mean, that really is something worth seeing. Yeah, I want to go. I mean, you can't really describe it.

Okay, well. It's just from a whole other age. I mean, it's not as if you get there and say, Mara Lago, what? What? What opulence, quite the other thing, quite the opposite. Because it's surprisingly small when you see it in real life. But it's also kind of tacky in some old-fashioned way. You know, they have these big kind of posters.

They have posters up, you know. Join us for Hawaiian Luau night. Italian night. Right. So it's like. an old-fashioned country club. It sounds like a kind of old upstate cat skill kind of hose out. And then he's kind of like the Catskills Tumblr.

You know, he greets everybody, hope you had a great meal. So he's the ringmaster. He's the MC. Yeah, the mother and daughter. I mean, I've heard him do this literally, I think a half a dozen times in the several hours that I was with him. The mother, daughter.

And then he says, he says, so, your sisters. Oh, you know, it's like, oh, my God. Someone gave me a good line about Palm Beach the other day. They said people think they move to Palm Beach because they're old and they're rich. And then they get down there and they realize they are neither. Yeah, no. God. Okay.

Okay. All right. Happy Thanksgiving. I will see you. Next Tuesday. Very soon. But have a good holiday. Thank you. And if you have been, thank you for joining us. Don't forget to leave a comment.

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fewer decisions and that his snack in the evening was ate almond? Yes, no, I'm sure Barack Obama has had, I mean, every time he has had a fast food meal, he has felt enormous, guilt about it. Donald Trump has never felt guilt about a burger. That's heavy. Okay, it's time. It's time to say goodbye. Herbie, Andrew Melor, Fulvia Orlando, Lazz Conde, Sandra Clark, M. Griner, Bonzo, Val Love, Francisco, Bobcock, D.C., Karen White. It's Bocock, D.C. Poor Bobcock has written in to point out how we should pronounce their name. Bocock, D.C.

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