The Daily Beast Podcast - Why Trump Aide Is Thinking 25th Amendment: Wolff

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to take a deep dive into Donald Trump’s relationship with food. From his legendary buffets at Mar-a-Lago and his fast-food devotion to McDonald’s, Jimmy John’s, and oversized desserts, Wolff maps out the culinary habits that reflect Trump’s personality and comfort zones. They discuss the White House dining struggles, state dinners he barely touches, and the unusual quirks—from eating in his bedroom to a Diet Coke button at his desk. Along the way, Wolff unpacks how Trump’s palate, fears, and routines give a window into his larger-than-life persona. Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago has never been more telling. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

And they just had never seen this completely different Trump behavior and unexpected. And what causes this? And with Mam Dani, people in the White House said, great, this really gives us an enemy. You know, perfect enemy, left-wing, socialist, immigrant. It just fit every category that they needed until he comes to the White House and then he becomes the model citizen for Donald Trump's needs. new world. What about the idea that somehow Trump is playing three-dimensional chess? I'm glad you you asked this person who I was, who was really just flabbergasted by the whole thing that said,

he doesn't play 3D chess. He has one game and this wasn't it. And, you know, the implication here is that something had happened here. There was some really alarming mood swing. People can't see, but I'm going to tell you anyway, you are wearing the most delightful plum-colored pants. Thank you. Are they moleskin or are they cord or are they velvet? They're corduroy. Yeah, they look very good, very good. And your, this is nice too.

Appreciate it all. It's quite fancy, isn't it? It's nice and soft. Is it cashmere? Yeah, very nice. Okay, so what are you hearing inside the White House, inside Trump's? Well, you know, this was kind of, I mean, I had been puzzling about this Mombani thing, as the whole world was puzzling about this. And this is the press conference with Mamm D.C.

Yeah, and with this love fest. I mean, Trump doesn't have a love fest with anyone except himself. So it was like shocking. And so I spoke to. some of the people, and particularly one person I speak to often in the White House, and I would characterize this person that's quite up close to what is going on. And I said, well, what was everybody's reaction to this? And he said, everybody's reaction was, what the fuck? Really? Yeah. And it was like, yeah, nobody expected that. This was not the script. It was

completely out of the blue. And then he added, and concerning. Concerning. Why concerning? Because I feel like, isn't it, I mean, Trump's typical bullying that for the most part, I always think of him as actually being quite nice to people's face, and then the minute they leave the room is horrible. No, I think that that's a misunderstanding, because remember, it's all Trump on set. Right. So the Oval Office is always the message that he wants to send. I am the dominant person. I'm the big guy. You're the small guy. I am angry and you're going to take it. I am I am the president and you're not. You're a lesser person. This is right. You're a lesser president. I suppose you think of Slensky and you think of the South

African president taking the brunt of him. Yeah. I mean, virtually anybody, he is sending that message and it's a message of dominance and submission, except for this, which was my son. Right. And so, I mean, among the other things, so this person that I was speaking to said, this wasn't just losing the plot. This was like a different guy. The look in his eyes was crazy. So the look in Trump's eyes as he's looking up to Mam Darnie?

Yes. I mean, they just had never seen. completely different Trump behavior and unexpected and what causes this. And with Mamdani, this person he has said only terrible things about. The person who even when Mamdani won, the people in the White House said, great, this really gives us an enemy. You know, perfect enemy, left wing, socialist, you know, immigrant. It just fit every case. category that they needed until he comes to the White House and then he becomes the model citizen for Donald Trump's new world. What about the idea that somehow Trump is playing three-dimensional

chess? I'm glad you asked because this person who I was really just flabbergasted by the whole thing that said, he doesn't play 3D chess. He has one. game and this wasn't it. And, you know, the implication here is that something had happened here. There was some really alarming mood swing. Is it possible he's had a stroke over the weekend? I mean, well, we had Dr. John Gartner on the podcast last week and he was saying that, you know, there are clear indications that something has gone wrong.

He's swimming his leg. He's got a droopy mouth. I mean, this was certainly the suggestion. And, you know, the point was the point this person was made, and I think it's a fundamental point about Trump, is that he always stays in character, which is, of course, what he does. What is his training? 14 years is a star of a hit reality television show. He is in character. And this person, the view was that this was so weird.

that he's on the set, the cameras go on, and suddenly he's playing an absolutely different part. And this person said, and this was, as you can see, I wrote this down, all of this down, because this was like riveting. So he says, literally, the only explanation was that the guy forgot who he is. So weird, he says. And then he said, it gives you a 25th amendment shiver. Wow, the 25th Amendment being when you can remove the president because he's no longer in sound mental health. That is what it is.

Yes. So at any rate, I mean, I don't know. We're just encapsulating that one moment. But the people around Trump saw that moment. and they were, to say the least, startled. And do we, is this, do we think because Mam Darnie is very charming, because they'd had a private meeting beforehand where Mam Darnie had played homage?

Or, I mean, Trump appeared to be enjoying himself. He appeared to really think that this young man was his other stuff. I mean, the suggestion is that this was so different, and Trump is so good at playing the role, but he clearly was not in that role, out of character, playing a different role. And the view of this person and people around Trump was that they had no explanation for what was going on here. So we can invent an explanation. Well, I'm interested to know.

It could be a stroke. I mean, it could be, what else could it be? I mean, the idea that he might actually have liked Mom Donnie is not plausible, first thing, because he doesn't really like anybody. And because he knows that's not the job here. The job is to be Donald Trump. I mean, remember, and it's fundamental, what role is he playing? He's playing the role of Donald Trump. And it's the apprentice.

guy, I'm the boss, I'm Trump and you're nothing. Is it possible that he worries about New York because Melania is living here and he wants to make sure she's safe? What do you think, Joanna? I'm very curious to know what's going on or what was going on inside Trump's head when he was with Mamdani. And I thought there were... Well, I think the implication here is that something untoward.

was going on in his head. I mean, he had lost the plot. So I had a couple of observations about the press conference, which I watched a couple of times. One is that his chair was physically too low for the desk. So he looks like he's sitting in a child's chair, and he's not quite high enough. Like you and I are both high at this desk. If you look at it, the thing comes, the desk comes up to here, and he looks strangely small. And Mamdani is unnaturally calm.

arm. So he just stands there. He holds his fourth finger and he just stands there. And he's not doing the thing that Elon did, which is sort of twitching and jerking. Elon's child is picking his nose and wiping the bugger on the desk and Trump is looking horrified. Ma'am Darnie actually looks to be the powerful one in the room. And Trump just looks like, and then the sort of, you know, you don't have to answer that question. And the constant hand on his arm like I'm doing to you was noticeable. No, everything was off about this. I mean, is it possible he was just really fatigued? Of course.

I mean, there's many possibilities. But I think the clear signal is being certainly sent by this person is that something was off. Right. And so we can speculate about what that might be. but the larger point is that Donald Trump never breaks character, is always in character. That is his strength as a politician, except for this moment when something went awry. Maybe Marjorie Taylor Green's resignation has really gotten to him, and he understands there's something bigger going on. It's quite possible that a lot of things have gotten to him.

The interesting thing, I mean, many people have observed is this, that the presidency, certainly the first time around, really didn't affect him much. You know, all other presidents, you know, you can see their hair going gray. They look, they look haggard. They look like they've been, to say, the Lee's working way too hard. That was never the case for Trump, partly because he wasn't working that hard, gets up late, plays a lot of golf. Watch his television, to be fair, and eats ice cream.

Yes, watch his television. I mean, a point that was always made is that his life in the White House was not appreciably different from his life in Trump Tower. Right. But maybe, you know, in this year, and we're heading, coming very close to the end of the first year of this, this presidency, this, you know, this has been an active year. Well, it's been a very active year, and the last couple of weeks have been difficult because you have the shutdown, you have the problem with the healthcare premiums which are doubling. One of the reasons Marjorie Taylor Green said she was quitting politics because she could see the impact of it on her daughters who are going to have their premiums double.

No, and actually that's a good point which we should note because I think it's central that he is now considering against. completely out of character, extending the Obamacare subsidies. Right. And what's clear is that the Republicans haven't come up with a substitute for Obama care. And do you remember when he was campaigning, he said, oh, I have a concept for it. I've got some ideas. Nothing's materialized. The Republicans haven't come up with anything that's better than Obamacare, even if Obamacare turns out to be pretty broken. Right. Well, actually, that has been sort of their saving grace. They couldn't come up with anything so they haven't changed Obamacare.

But if the cost of Obamacare goes up, people are going to feel that. I mean, they're really going to feel that up. And they are going to blame it not on Obamacare. No, they're going to blame it on Trump. So is it possible that he hasn't actually understood, because he's not directly impacted by it, that people's premiums are actually going to double and in some cases trouble,

which means that people are going to go from paying, say, $800 a month to $1,600 or even up from $2,000 to $3,000 to $4,000 a month. This is real money and it's going to impact red states as well as glue. It is beyond real money. It's a real money. It's a real money. Right. It's going to mean a lot of people are going to go bankrupt.

It's not an incremental step up. Right. It's a it's a it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a A bankrupting step up, and it's also bankrupting for a lot of Republican, you know, Congress people and senators. This is – I don't understand how the Republicans have baked this in and not thought it was bad for them. Trump, needless to say, is not – one of his gifts is not holding two contradictory ideas in his head at the same time. So, and his overriding point here is Obamacare bad. Right.

That is the thing. I mean, from the beginning of his political career, Obamacare bad. And he certainly has not replaced Obamacare. He has not fixed Obamacare. He has not even given much thought to Obamacare except Obamacare bad. So coupling that with Obamacare bad, but a more expensive Obamacare bad for him, is a little more complicated than than Trump is used to. And especially because I do think the Democrats have been fairly strong in hammering out the message,

that this is because he's given a tax break to billionaires, to the richest people in society. And so I think maybe there's a broader issue. Does he realize? And, you know, in saying Trump realizes anything is, you know, you need a lot. a little kind of critical understanding of that. But does he sense in some more profound way than usual that actually things are going against him? Right.

That there's a whole political ecosystem that's, you know, if not caving in on him, sending up all kinds of warning signs. Right. Well, you've got the unanimous vote. for the release of the Epstein files. You've got Marjorie Taylor Green leaving, and now other people saying there's been this whole kind of anonymous campaign

that other people, other Congress people are going to resign because the Republican Party is a shit show. Well, even more fundamentally, you have a very, very difficult economy, which, you know, he fundamentally got elected in 2024 on that issue. and he has not been able to, in any meaningful way, create any kind, that has not been ameliorated. And in fact, you can argue that it has only gotten worse. Well, and also, people aren't so stupid that when he says, oh, prices are going down,

people are in the grocery store. They're on Amazon. They know that prices aren't going down. I mean, Marjorie Taylor-D Green very effectively said you're gaslighting, a stop gaslighting. us. Marjorie Taylor Green. I know. I can't believe I'm holding her up.

We'll get to that. Well, and then the other bad thing that's happened is, of course, the Comey verdict. You know, Lindsay Halligan, someone you have been pointing out is utterly incompetent ever since she came on the scene, has lost her case and the judge threw it out with, you know, complete disdain at how this was brought. So a sense of the DOJ in chaos. Yeah, I mean, it's not only just the DOJ being in chaos because it has always kind of been, I mean, since, you know, I mean, that's the whole, I mean, his whole point, I'm going to take over the DOJ. Yes, it's going to be, it doesn't, the DOJ's function is not the DOJ function anymore. The DOJ function is to be my lawyers and to protect me. And what you now see in this is that the DOJ's function is that the DOJ's function. has a fool for a client, which is the president in the United States.

Right. And that, I mean, that is really the case here. Why did this happen? Because of him. And I'm sure that people in the DOJ, Pam Bondi, etc., are quite aware of that. Well, she must be furious because also she didn't even know that Lindsay Halligan was going to file when she did. And then let's go back to the Lindsay Halligan story.

Lindsey Halligan was one of the women on his, on the campaign, in the campaign entourage who just happened, just the fluke circumstance of having a law degree and was only there because of the way she looked. Right. And because he, he liked to say a line among, one of the things about Trump is that, you know, he has a line. he repeats it until you want to shoot yourself. And this line was, all it was, I may not have the best legal team, but I have the hottest. And then the phone would go up. And there would be a picture of Lindsey Halligan and Alina Haba. And that was their entire reason for being.

So fine. She gets, he gets elected. And she gets, you know, and there was a lot of discussion. of what roles would these, would Alina Haba get? You know, Alina Haba wanted to be the press secretary. No, no, no, everybody nixed her on that. Then she wanted to be the United Nations representative. No, no, no, no, no.

But then she became, Alina Haba became the prosecutor in New Jersey because he put her into that. I don't think she's being confirmed, has she. No, no, no, no, no. She's all, it's all. Yes, yes, no, it's, they can't be confirmed. But he can put them in. or he thinks he can put them in.

Right. Well, and interestingly, one of the technical reasons that the case was thrown out is because Lindsay Halligan is the second, what is it, attorney to be put in. She's not legitimately appointed. Right. So she's an interim and the person before her was an interim, which is not legal. Right. And it's just all it is is him, Donald Trump, superseding all procedures.

Well, and it's also him playing at being president. And you can do this in a television show, right? Because there's no consequences. But in real life, there are consequences. And there are other people judging you. But even beyond that. So we take Lindsay Halligan, someone who knows nothing about practicing law. But she was a runner up in Miss Colorado.

Yes. And she didn't really even have a job in the White House. She had kind of a patronage job. So she is literally, and I'm sure. I'm sure she is like what happened. So she's like a dummy just put into this into this

job. I feel I should be defending her here and yet I can't because she's been utterly in common. And so she did a job which she or she tried to do a job which she couldn't do which she was only doing because he ordered her to do it. And by the

way no one else would do it. And so it has come to its logical conclusion. A judge looked at this and said this is not only ridiculous, but this is absolutely absurd. Get rid of this. Well, and now because of the statute of limitations, it looks like they can't bring charges against Comey again, because obviously they've appealed, the government's appealed, but it's actually run out its time. It's just a mess. It's just an absolute mess. So does Trump mind? Is he just moving on?

Is he screaming at people? Is he yelling at Pambondi? What do we think is happening here? Screaming at people yelling at Pambandi. You know, in the Trump world, in the Trump world is built on so much abuse playing of the legal system, they will appeal on this. They will push this out.

So what is he going to do here? He is going to push this out as long as he can. And he will, I suppose, manage to push it out for some time. And continuing to cause problems for Comey and Letitia James, continuing to make them spend money. So this is all whatever vengeance he can wreak, he will. And he will do this even if it holds him up to, you know, a deserved degree of mockery. Right. And a toss to our sponsors.

And Michael Wolf and I are back inside Trump's head. So then the other thing that we've got going on is the Ukraine-Russia peace treaty, which at one point had 28 points to it. I don't know when. And when did it happen that peace plans had 28 points to them? That seems to make no sense to me. Whatever. I mean, this seems to be also kind of an extraordinary story, which as far as I can tell, began with Trump wanting peace.

And the only way to get peace in Ukraine is to do what the Russians want. Right. So again, this is like holding one thought in his head, oh, I can peace. Peace comes if Russia stops attacking Ukraine. This is what they need to do that, which does not account for the fact that Ukraine will not do any of these things. So how this could have come about within any appreciation of the difficulties in this situation, I don't know. That's staggering. But it did come about.

Suddenly there's a 28-point peace plan which patently the Ukrainians are not going to agree to. The Russians will agree to it. The Ukrainians will not agree to it. Well, then I don't think the Europeans will agree to it either. Nor the Europeans. So it is dead on the face of it. So why would this be proposed? Why? Why? I mean, this is politics. This is the most basic thing. Why would this even come about? Well, and it also felt like the peace band was back together again because our old friend, Steve Wickoff and Jared Kushner, emerged as sort of central to this. Now, obviously, we know that Steve Wickoff is a special envoy to Russia and has been back and forth talking to Putin, though. He can never seem to remember what he

said to Putin. But Jared suddenly popped up again, as we know that he was central to the East. No, we have to ask what Jared's game is here, because there is always a Jared game. But there's always an angle for Jared. And Jared is always the winner of the game. So, but, but Nevertheless, so this deal is floated. It is leaked actually, but obvious, of course, it would be leaked. And then they have to. And Trump is defending this, not only defending this, but he's yelling at Zelensky. You know, you're going to get wiped out. Right. You're going to wipe the floor with you if you don't. Right. And remember that thing he said to him when he came over in February, you've got no cards. And he was repeating it again saying, I told him, you've got no cards. You've got no cards. You've got no cards. He's got loads of cards. That's fine.

And if you think about that, okay, maybe, maybe, I mean, as horrible as it would be, if Trump then said, we're out, you either agree to this or we are out of this, goodbye. And that at least would have been consistent. But actually, none of that happened. And everybody was sent in to undo exactly what Trump had done. So we are now back to where we were before, apparently, with a peace plan that would be acceptable to Ukraine, but not acceptable to Russia. So we've just, nothing has happened here at all, except that we have shown once more that Donald Trump has no idea what he's doing, that the foundation here. is just a foundation of incompetence. And I can't help but think.

And the Comey thing plus Ukraine, you know, certainly sends the message that we are, we're back to the first administration. We're back to the gang that couldn't shoot straight fundamentals of Donald Trump's way of governing. And, you know, this whole year has kind of masked that, just because things I think have happened so quickly and so outrageously or audaciously that everybody is kind of knocked back and has been, if not admiring in some amount of intimidated by, I would say, the headlines. every day's headlines. Right, because it feels like things are happening and because they've happened with a velocity that we're not used to. Exactly. So, but now we're back to literally

the first administration. The first administration was, was incompetent, a bit of incompetence after a bit of incont, everything was broken in some, in some way. Whatever they did, they did not know how to do. And, and now we're rolling. right back into this. You know, he can't. Right. He can't indict his enemies. But he doesn't know how to do it. Yes, he wants peace, but no idea how to bring peace.

And not only no idea, but in every effort is a, is not just a failed one, but a ludicrous one. Again, we get back to the fact that he is a television producer and that these are sort of announcements which he makes, proclamations which he makes, but he can't do the complicated work of actually making them stick. So he can announce, I'm going after James Comey, he's being indicted, James is being indicted, but then the indictments don't stick. He can pretend he's got a peace treaty underway, but nobody's agreeing to it.

No, and I think that that was, that's partly what has happened throughout the past year. it's been a whole set of announcements and headlines, and now we're getting to the follow-through, and there is no follow-through. It can be no follow-through because it's all fucked up. Then this other thing, which to me is extraordinary. So, you know, immigration has been a winning issue for Trump, a fundamental issue, arguably why the thing that has most fueled his political career. So you have that winning issue, a lot of people, you know, for better or worse, saying yes. But then you send in these guys in black in face masks who wouldn't identify themselves,

who are on video literally every day dragging women and children away. So you've taken the issue that you are, that has always worked for you. and you're squandering it, massively squandering it. Well, and also taking people out of the workforce that the workforce needs. Well, that's, yes, on a general, on a larger economic basis, this is, you know, ridiculous and is going to backfire. But on that more particular emotional basis. Humane level. You know, and immigration is fundamentally an emotional issue.

you know, keep people, you know, we, we feel that somehow it's wrong and somehow immigration is destabilizing and somehow it's out of control, which you can argue it is. Well, and certainly those images of the southern border were alarming to everybody, and it was a misdifying why the Biden administration wasn't able to deal with it. Completely on, so in the Trump column firmly, until you take it out of the Trump column with all of these, you know, the black guys in masks. I mean, they're not black. they're dressed in black. Right. No, no. And they're deliberately designed to look scary and autocratic. And yet it's backfired because once they're all over social media, people are just appalled by it.

And it's not who Americans think of themselves as being fundamentally. So the gang that couldn't shoot straight is back in charge. So it was clear that Trump wanted to try and get a peace deal done by thanks. Thanksgiving, that no longer looks like. It's all out. It's literally anything that he said that was relevant to this peace deal, which was just the other day he was saying it, is out the window, gone, forget about it. So what's he thinking? What's inside his head as he approaches Turkey Day? Wush, apparently. Is he going to be having Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago? I'm assuming. I'm assuming. I'm assuming that it will be, it will not be a family affair.

Yeah, no, I think, I mean, my question is, is he starting to realize that there are, that this is serious stuff? I mean, right now, you know, and we haven't spoken for a while about the Republicans basically rejecting his plan to reapportion key states in a way that would give him a likely win in the midterms. So that's an initiative that seems to have failed. So is he looking at losing the midterms? And if he looks and if he loses the midterms, he's kind of lost. I mean, that means he's got one more. year left and he's already putting out lame duck vibes.

Yeah, one more year till the midterms. Yeah. Yeah, well, I think that it's, I mean, he's going to be crucified if there's a Democratic Congress in a year from now. And then there's Mark Kelly and Alyssa Slotkin and the six Democrats that were all members of the services who put out a video reminding active members of the services not to do anything illegal. I want to take a contrary view on that. Well, you don't know what I was going to say. You're going to say they shouldn't have put out the video, aren't you? Yes. Yes. And actually,

as I was, funny enough, I sort of agree with you on that. I think obviously Trump overreacted as did Peter Hegg said. It's completely, it's, they're doing this is completely provocative. Yes, there's a technical point there that you're not supposed to, I mean, if the order is illegal, you shouldn't obey it. But the larger point, which is that people can't decide on an ad hoc basis what's, I mean, people soldiers, people in the armed forces can't decide on an ad hoc basis what is legal and not illegal. only in the most egregious circumstance are you going to come to that. Can you make that kind of qualification? It's completely ridiculous. But having said that, of course, he overreacted.

And that was what's interesting. I thought finally the Democrats have begun to figure out how to get under his skin. Because I thought the videos actually were slightly ridiculous too. But it turned out they worked. And maybe that's what you have to do. to have an impact if you're a Democrat. I wonder about that, though. I mean, I think it's a safe assumption that everything the Democrats do

is probably wrong. Right. And in this case, they've given him a very credible argument. Now, yes, does he ruin his own argument by what is, I think he's shooting them? Well, he said, I mean, he basically said execute them. And John Gartner, who we had on, I mentioned earlier, said he's like the mad queen in Alice in Wonderland. He's like, off with their heads. Yes.

But that's something. That has often been effective for him. I mean, it's a very simple, you know, and remember the old Trump thing, you know, not to take him literal or whatever that was. Right. And people don't take him literally. Don't take him literally, but take him seriously. But they understand what. he's saying. In this instance, he has a point, and they've been kind of at best facile about the whole

thing. And one more, again, of course, from our sponsors, who we love. And Michael and I are back. His overreaction does suggest he's not the same Trump. No, no. Actually, that suggests he is the same Trump. He always overreacts into great effectiveness. He overreacts in such a consistent basis that he is, that he is, that that's figured into everybody's reaction to his reaction. And it doesn't seem like he's overreacting. It seems like he's playing the character he is Donald Trump. Okay. That was quite meta that response. I'm not sure I entirely followed it. But what are you doing for Thanksgiving? doing? You know, making a turkey. Are you doing the cooking?

Of course, I always do the cooking. Okay, do you know this year, I've always done the cooking. This year, I'm having friends, and to my absolute excitement, one of the friends called up and said, I'm having the whole thing catered and it will be delivered to your house on Thursday morning, and I'm beside myself with excitement that I do not have to do all the cooking. Really? Yeah, yeah, I'm just thrilled. It's going to be an overcooked turkey.

I don't care. I won't have had to cook it. It won't be lukewarm sides. No, it won't be lukewarm sides. I will heat them in my oven. I can do all the heating up. Overheating. Overheeded things. Oh, you're just screwed.

You're scrooge and you're coming early. I wish I could go to Mar-a-Lago for Thanksgiving. I just wish. I wish someone at Mar-a-Lago would invite Michael and I for a meal at Mar-a-Lago. I know you've already been. I know you've done it. I've done my Mar-a-Lago meal. What would Trump do if he saw you eating happily at Mar-a-lago?

the guest of one of his members? You know, that's a really good question, because it could be that I would be, you know, the mom donnie of the moment. And, you know, and it is to your point about this, you know, when I have been with Trump, he has always treated me very well. And actually, if he had any beef with me, then he would transfer it. So it's not you. It's my staff. Blamed me on his staff. And then I got forgiven in this.

Or, you know, once I ran into him on the campaign trail and it was a group of other people and he was coming by and he stopped and everybody was like this and pointed at me and said, I made that guy rich. And then he went on. Which is why you can afford these fabulous cash in there, jackets. It is. I owe it all to Donald Trump. Lovely plum cords.

All right. So, many, many comments from last week, including a lot of people that liked my analogy to Robert Palmer's addicted to love video. They thought that the MAGA girls were like a different version of that. It turns out we've got lots of people who loved Robert Palmer. Johnny and Mary, I think it was. Johnny's always running around. Anyway, great song. Okay, questions for Ask Melania as your Jarn Dice and Jarnedice of Bleak House legal situation goes on with Melania.

Question for Melania, and this is from Nora Page. Nora, thank you. Why did you wear that jacket that said, I don't really care, do you, after visiting kids in cages? And whose idea was it to do that? There may be a relevancy issue on that question, but, but, Why not try? Well, was she signalling? I mean, it might be interesting that she was trying to signal something.

What was she signaling? Okay. Okay. Another question from Sobe Skilinda. My question for Melania is, has Barron ever, this is a great question, has Barron ever spent any time in the sun at Mar-a-Lago? He sure maintains a ghostly Manhattan Pala. I would like to say that not all Manhattan Pallas are ghostly,

but Barron does look oddly ghostly. as if he's never seen the sun. I think that there's a larger question here, which I think we will address about exactly where these people live. Well, and where is Barron? He's supposed to have moved to D.C., the NYU campus in D.C. Why have we not seen any pictures of it? I think we will get to the bottom of who lives where and with whom.

Okay. Fundamental political question. Okay. All right. Okay, this is from Grace Havaland. ask Melania how she supported herself when she first came here on a visit of Iza. Very good question. We will get to the bottom of this career in career in air quotes. Okay. And then this is just a comment. It's not really a question, but it's from someone

called Just Go There 72, which makes me think that it could be one of those foreign accounts that we've been learning about this week, which actually I think is one of the most disturbing stories, that so much of political discourse going on on our social media platforms is actually coming from abroad, as we know. Russia, China, various Eastern European countries. And is, you know, and as not even human, or these are bot accounts. Yeah. Anyway, I'm not sure if this is a bot or not from just got there. It sounds like a bot account. Trump is still competing with his deceased best friend. He was always insanely jealous of him and continues to covered Epstein's friends, women charm money, and his ability to make people laugh.

That feels to me like a weird comment. I think that's from a bot. Just go there, 72. If you are a real person, identify yourself. Fair? Fair. We haven't even mentioned our FK juniors loves on it for various reasons because it's a bit sleazy. A bit sleazy.

Yeah. It was so weird. I mean, it's extraordinary. It was so weird. I mean, extraordinary. And also, strangely, he seems to have spent some time thinking it through. I don't know what the pentameter was. I was trying to figure out, is it actually a sonnet?

Is it kind of a limerick? It sort of fell somewhere in between. I am just, it's, you know, when I was long ago, when I was following Bobby Kennedy around for, for when he was running Teddy Kennedy's campaign. And this was in Alabama or Arkansas, I'm right? This was in Alabama. And there was a little entourage of reporters who were following him,

and he would disappear. You stop at a gasoline station, and there was a young girl working the pump. Suddenly, RFK Jr. would be nowhere to be seen. for 20 minutes. I leave you with that thought. I'm just fascinated as to whether or not there are lots of his sort of

children out there that, you know, that the mother has said to him, you are the son of RFK Jr. And the trials like my mother is insane. This could never have happened. I think we should we should get into this.

We should get into it. All right. Well, in the meantime, Are you going to buy either the ex-digital mistresses book, American Canto, or Cheryl Hines' book, whose name I can't remember? Oh, it's unscripted. Are you going to buy either of them? Which one do you think is going to be better written?

What a publishing banality? You know, I mean, I must say, I mean, whatever I might think about Olivia Nuzi, I have thought that she's a good writer. She is a good writer. So I don't know. Now, I've seen some initial. comment on the book, which would not support that. But I'm open.

Cheryl Hines, we can assume, is not going to be a work of literature. Okay, Michael, as always. I'll see you before the holiday. See you before the holiday. And we have another. Is that we have a holiday. We have a holiday special. We have a holiday special.

We stop for nothing. not for nothing. And actually we have a theme, which is Trump and greed. Well, it's really Trump and food. Yeah, it's Trump and food. Right. It's Trump and food, but I think he's greedy around food. He seems a greedy person. I imagine he does. I mean, we're going to discuss. I think we should discuss actually what Trump, what's on Trump's mind when it comes to. When he's eating. Yeah, because it's so peculiar. Okay, well, we'll get into it then. All right, so if you have been, thank you for joining us. Please feel free to subscribe to this podcast.

Leave us a comment and subscribe to the Daily Beast so you can stay on top of the madness that's going on right now and join our Bee Beast tier of members where Michael can then read your name out. Michael, here's the list of our Bee Beast tier members. We could memorize them. We should. We could memorize them, except they keep growing. Herbie, Andrew Melor.

I think Joanna says, Melor. I do. I don't know why you put the emphasis on Orr. That feels all wrong. Fulvia Orlando, Lazz Conde, Sandra Clark, M. Griner, Bonzo, Val Love, Francisco, Bocock, D.C., Karen White, Heidi Riley, Connie Rutherford, Sharon Shipley, Andrea Hodel, Devin, Anna, and Jesse. Without whom? Without whom?

We would have nothing to do on a Tuesday morning. Thanks, guys. Want more great listens? Check out our comedy podcast, The Last Laugh, and our star-studded The Daily Beast podcast at thedailybeast.com slash podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, consider becoming a Daily Beast subscriber. Subscribing is the best way to feed the beast and support all of your podcasts as we cover what might become the darkest timeline. Head to the DailyBeast.com slash membership slash podcast and sign up today.