The Daily Show: Ears Edition - A Judge Mandates an End to Mask Mandates | Pamela Adlon

Episode Date: April 20, 2022

A federal judge puts a sudden end to COVID-19 mask mandates for travelers, Jordan Klepper covers a Trumpian political trajectory in Hungary, and Pamela Adlon discusses "Better Things."See omnystudio.c...om/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. Hello there. You're about to watch an episode of The Daily Show. That means there's some news and some jokes on the way. So if you like laughing and news, you're in the right fucking place, honey. Coming to you from New York City, the only city in America. It's the Daily Show. Tonight, the skies are mask-free.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Jordan Clepper is overseas. And Pamela Adlon. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Thank you so much for shooting and thank you. Thank you so much for shooting and thank you for coming out and try to be here. Take a seat, take a seat, let's get into it. It's going to be very fun. Pamela Adlin is our guests. Thank you so much for coming out and talking here. Take your seat, take a seat. Take a seat. Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:01:06 It's going to be very fun. Pamela Adlin is our guest tonight here to talk about her hilarious show. Better things. Jordan Klepper decided to visit Trump fans in Hungary, which I didn't even know was a thing. And today in headlines, we're going to be talking about Drake and Taylor Swift. We're talking about the end of masks. So let's do this, people. Let's jump straight into today's headlines.
Starting point is 00:01:30 All right, for two years now, if you've wanted to travel, like train, plane, or dong-shaped spaceship, there's one thing you needed to have. one, a train, plane, or dong-shaped spaceship, there's one thing you needed to have. One, a ticket, obviously, and two, you needed to wear a mask. Well yesterday, a federal judge decided that it's time to take our masks off. This morning, a site we haven't seen in more than a year. Travelers maskless on planes and walking through airports after a their their their their their their their their the site we haven't seen in more than a year. Travelers maskless on planes and walking through airports after a major reversal.
Starting point is 00:02:07 A federal judge in Florida striking down the mask mandate on public transportation. The Biden administration saying masks are no longer required on planes, trains, buses and transportation hubs. Now United, American, Delta, Southwest, JetBlue, and Alaska Airlines confirming they will no longer make passengers mask up. It's fantastic news. Queens, we are the champions played on loop from behind the Sacramento International
Starting point is 00:02:37 Airport's Southwest ticket encounter today, and you can see some staff still choosing to wear a face covering. Others did not. I love it. I like seeing everybody's face. You know, forget what people look like. and you can see some staff still choosing to wear a face covering. Others did not. I love it. I like seeing everybody's face. You'll forget what people look like. Oh, I'm actually so happy for that lady, you know? Yeah. But I will say, if you forget what your friends and family look like in the time
Starting point is 00:02:58 that you're at the airport, you need to get that checked. Yeah. Or you're spending too much time at the airport. What are you doing? Oh, another delay? Who are you? But that's right, people. As of yesterday, masks are no longer required on flights in America. And not just flights. Amtrak has said you don't have to wear masks on its trains.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Uber has announced that you don't have to wear masks in their cars but you do still have to smile politely when the driver tells you what he thinks about politics and various cities have said you no longer have to wear masks on their subways or their buses right although here in New York the MTA is standing firm they've said you still have to wear a mask on the New York City subway yeah which has nothing to do with COVID it's just an extra layer to to to to to to to to to the the to the to the the the the to the the to the the to to the the the to the to the to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their their. their. their their their their their their their their their their true. true. true. true. true. try. ttry. ttttry. ttry. asleep and you wake up to find a stranger licking you. Very common on the F train. But from now on, when you travel in most places, masks are optional, which a lot of people are happy about, right? Which makes sense because let's be honest, people traveling with masks sucks, right? Your face gets sweaty, you can't pretend that somebody else's breath that stinks.
Starting point is 00:04:08 It always feels like someone's using a tiny, dull saw on the back of your ears to cut them off. There's a lot of reasons to not like masks, is what I'm saying. But what a lot of people are unhappy about is how and when this rule was thrown the thoeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..... thiiuuuuuiuiuiuiuiuiuiuiuiuiwa thiwa thiwa thiwa thiwa thiwa thiweree thiwa thiwa thiwa. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thii. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiwananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananthe. that's that's that's, right? When they first put it in place, they told us when the change would go into effect, so people could prepare. But for some reason, this rule change happened in the middle of people's flights. A mid-flight announcement for travelers across the country tonight.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Cheers up in the air, as airline crews got word that the national mask mandate was struck down flight attendants on one Southwest flight, collecting the masks from people excited to ditch them. Mask now, optional for employees, customers, hallway the federal mandate. Requiring mass in all U.S. airports and on-board aircraft. I have so many questions. First of all, why are people cheering like that? People are cheering like they just said you can take two bags of chips instead of one.
Starting point is 00:05:24 What? Hell yeah! I'm glad I paid another $300 for economy. Bloss, yeah! And also that flight attendant who was singing, what was that? It was like the worst version of the Lion King. NAA! See, you're gonna ya, man, put your musk in here. That celebration looked like Marty growing the sky and all types of people were celebrating
Starting point is 00:05:46 Black, wild, old, young, everyone. You know, they were happy about the mask change. But many other passengers were silently pissed off, which I totally get. Because look, I don't care what you think of masks. You have to admit, it is insane to change a safety rule in the middle of a flight, people. Just as a general rule. nothing should change mid-flight ever. Nothing. I don't want the cost changing, all right?
Starting point is 00:06:12 I don't want the cabin pressure changing. I definitely don't want my seat changing. Yeah, so that you can sit next to your wife. Look, man, you're smothering her, Alan. She booked separate seats for a reason. Read the signs! This is why your marriage is in trouble! The point is, did you get sad for a fake Allen?
Starting point is 00:06:33 One of you was like, no, Alan. Look, Matt, the point is, a lot of people only booked that flight in the first place, because they felt safe knowing that everyone had to wear masks. You can't just flip that while people people the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their th they felt safe knowing that everyone had to wear masks. Okay, you can't just flip that while people are already on the plane. You've got to give people a chance to decide if this is something they want to do. It's crazy, you know? Like you call, like it's a safety. This would be like if a roller coaster decided to change its safety policies when you're already need the safety bars.
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Starting point is 00:07:45 I think you have every right to be. All right, we wore masks for what? Two years on planes. I think people could have waited one more day, one more day. And people were acting like they were suffocating in their seats. Yes! Yes, I'll have a Coke, please. Now, because masks in America have somehow turned into a political battle, a lot of people weren't just angry at the judge who made this ruling or at the airlines who instantly allow the change.
Starting point is 00:08:11 No, a lot of people online are angry at the flight attendants and at the flight attendants and at the pilots who were celebrating the change. But look, I don't agree with it, and I'll tell you why. People forget that flight attendants weren't just happy about the masks coming off because of politics. No, a lot of them were happy because of the way people react to masks and the fact that it has turned their everyday lives basically into UFC. Fights over wearing a mask on a plane have overwhelmingly made up the number of unruly passengers on flights. Thousands since the start of the pandemic. Stay down! Oh!
Starting point is 00:08:47 Yeah! Yeah, Get off the plane! We don't stand up in police! We don't stand up in police! Yeah, two years of that. I don't even know what was going on. Like, are those people's masks made of cocaine? What was going on there? You know, it's actually amazing that humans can't that humans that humans that humans that humans that humans that humans that humans that humans that humans that humans can't that humans can't that humans can't that humans can't that humans can't that humans that humans can't that humans that of that. I don't even know what was going on. Like, are those people's masks made of cocaine?
Starting point is 00:09:05 What was going on there? You know, it's actually amazing that humans can invent jet airplanes to fly, fly around the planet, but then inside those technological marvels were just wild animals. You know, because nobody, nobody should be acting that way over a mask. The only time it's appropriate to have that level level that level that level that level that. All right? Or if the in-flight entertainment is stuck on Morbius. I mean, then... Then you can throw punches. You throw those punches. But as for the flight attendants, they already have to deal with so much shit. I get why they are happy.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Think of all the other thing And they're helping parents with screaming kids. They're giving people boff bags. And they have to collect the boff bags back. Yeah, so forgive them if they're happy that they no longer have to be the bounces of the sky. Okay? They're humans. And here's what I think people need to understand experience that you are. Remember that. Yeah, you hate the mask because it makes you break out. Someone else likes the mask because they're immunocompromised
Starting point is 00:10:09 and acne is the least of their problems. And some people don't really care. Yeah, so they'll wear it if they have to, and they won't if they don't. That's the truth. And I'm just saying, I can't see th can see th can see th th th th th th th th th th th thi I can see thi I can see thi thi thi thi thi thi. I can see thi. I can see thi. I can see thi. I can see th. I can see thi. I can see thi. I can see thi. I can't th. I can't thi. I can't thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thi thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I can't thi. I can't thi. I can't thi. I can't thi. I can't thi. I can't thi. I can't thi. I can't thi. I can thi. I can see thi. I can see thi. I can see thi. I can see thi. I can see thi. I can see thi. I can't thi. I can see thi. I can't thi. I can see thi. I, no, if you want to infect people, that's your truth. That's your truth. Because I can understand why people are happy that they no longer have to spend a six-hour flight feeling like a broke-ass bane.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And I also get why people want to keep wearing masks. My hope is that we can get to a point where we're not villainizing each other over a tiny piece of cloth. What are we doing? Huh? It's not sustainable for people to have so much hate for each other like this. Oh, I hate you wearing the mat, take it off. Yeah, put it, I hate you, I hate you. No one had power to change what the judge did.
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Starting point is 00:14:46 Nobody wins. Turns and conditions apply. Go say Sloan, everybody. All right, when we come back, join and clap, fingers the globe, you don't want to miss it. No money. There's no money. No, damn. One of the most fascinating and terrifying countries in the world right now is Hungary, woom. Wichaelic, woomah, which has slid from a reliable democracy into something more like a dictatorship.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Oh, I don't know why sounded pretty familiar to us. So we sent Jordan Klepper there to finger, a nation classified as only partly free, and what American conservatives can't get enough of, maybe because of stuff like this. Today's president in USA is fake. FIJO Biden? Yes. But the thing that United Conservatives all over the planet were the culture wars. And at CPAC in Florida, they were fighting hard in their battle against wokeism. Awake not woke I mean awake not woke would be more along the lines of knowing our history right being awake and because woke is
Starting point is 00:16:16 oh I know all the bad things and you've got to feel some type of way about it and they yada yada yeah well empathy in those yes what yeah I'm not wearing that. You don't need to care about other people. No, I need to care about other people because you can be awake and you can care about other people. But you can still have a backbone about your convictions. Does it make sense? No.
Starting point is 00:16:33 What is the phrase here? Awk, the phrase,'re not, Republican Party is not trying to silence people. No. They're not saying don't say gay. Not at all, as a matter of fact. I mean, they're an acting legislation that says don't say gay. But emotionally, they're not saying that. And while GOP snowflakes complain about silencing, conservative state legislatures across the country are punishing the LGBTQ community for, you know, existing. And the
Starting point is 00:17:09 GOP is now looking to Hungary for inspiration because the woke wars have been raging there since 2010 when the conservative autocrat Victor Orban took over. He outlawed helping Middle Eastern migrants flee war. The Constitution was amended to make marriage between one man and one woman, and people like children's book editor, Bolda Jarnaji, felt the sting of Orban's policies when he published a story that dared to show the world of LGBTQ animals. For example, there is a story about deer who is a trans boy. He born into a female body and he wants to have antlers as well like the other guys. Then he realizes that it won't grow. Their friends help him and in the end they made
Starting point is 00:17:52 antlers from branches. In America we tell kinder stories about deers. Like deers go out into the woods and their mother gets shot by a hunter. Yeah. It's just more kid appropriate storytelling. But the government reaction turned out to inspire even bigger nightmares than those ghoulish fairy tales. A public shredding by a member of parliament sparked action by Prime Minister Orbán. Because of the book, the Prime Minister said that LGBTQ people are harmful for kids.
Starting point is 00:18:20 They did the Child Protection Act, which says that you cannot even sell LGBTQ topic books if the shop is in 200 meters from any churches or school. Priest can't go and find a book like this. They need to stay pure and open up the Bible and read stories about 40 year olds, fucking kids. You know, these are priests, they have to stay moral. This is the kind of law American conservatives would love. As soon as they figure out how far 200 meters-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-cc. I the the-c. the-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-c. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thii-c. ti-c. tode-c. tode-c. tode-c. toda-lii-li-liiiiii-c. toda-c. toda-c. tipea-c. This is the kind of law American conservatives would love, as soon as they figure out how far 200 meters is. But Orban's government wasn't just banning books. They also tried to erase the identity of an entire group of people. The urban government denies the existence and the possibility of existence of trans people
Starting point is 00:19:00 considers this as at best as an illness. And they insist that there's no such thing as gender, and therefore there's no need for gender studies education and abolished gender studies programs. So that gig doesn't exist in hunger anymore? Nope, not anymore. That's kind of America right now. There's no more racism, so why are we studying it?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Or even looking at its history? Yeah, it is quite reminiscent, I must admit. But gender studies professor Eva Fador's job wasn't the only one canceled. In fact all of Central European University, a highly respected international institution in Budapest, was targeted by the Orban administration. Unfortunately in 2017, the government launched a vicious political attack against the university and passed a new piece of legislation which just did not allow the university to function as a university in Budapest anymore. So the university had to pack up, leave this beautiful campus behind,
Starting point is 00:19:50 and move to Vienna and keep offering the US accredited degrees there. They shipped your job overseas? Well, over the Danube. They shipped your job over river. While American Conservatives complain about elite liberal academics, Hungarian conservatives literally send them packing. Today, CEU is an empty is an the the the the the the the the the the the the their is an their is an their is an to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to top. is an empty topaste topace topaceupupe topaste to pack up to pack up to pack up to pack up to packeck. to packeck. to packeck. to packe. to packe. to packe. to packe. to packe. to packe. to packe. to pack, Hungarian conservatives literally send them packing. Today, CEU is an empty campus where no learning takes place. So basically, Ohio State. So I'm grabbing my backpack, your rail pass and motion sickness tablets, and heading to
Starting point is 00:20:17 Vienna, home to CEU's new campus to see what sort of sinister liberal college voodoo their students are up to. Are you guys doing some evil shit here? campus to see what sort of sinister liberal college voodoo their students are up to. Are you guys doing some evil shit here? Maybe? I don't know. I mean, what do you mean my evil shit? Like liberal college, evil shit?
Starting point is 00:20:32 Definitely. Definitely. We like to talk about gender and feminism, we like to talk about liberal values and democracy. That's just Brooklyn shit. Well, maybe the Brooklyn shit kind of learned it from all over the world. Appropriating, that's also Brooklyn shit. That's also Brooklyn shit, exactly. What the Orban government did to higher education is a truly harrowing international story.
Starting point is 00:20:53 But as an American, I still have one question. How does this affect me? I think when we think about what could happen to American democracy, we lack imagination. We think the only way that it could crumble as if it becomes a civil war like the 1800s in America. What does the slide towards authoritarianism look like and what should we be on the lookout for back in America? You know this story about the frog, that if you put the frog into water and you gently heat the water? The point is that if you're sliding gradually into something, you barely recognize that you're moving. And you just end somewhere.
Starting point is 00:21:29 You, something, things become natural. Things that you would have been unheard of a few years ago, become acceptable, natural, the normal part of life. We don't cook frogs, I think that's the French chicken sandwiches, that's our thing. So if you could make that metaphor more chicken sandwich- sandwich based I think it would really connect to our audience work on that please do more on this deep fried fall of democracy Thursday thank you so much for that Jordan all right when we come back Pamela Adlin is joining us so stay tuned. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is Emmy Award-winning actor,
Starting point is 00:22:25 writer, director, and producer Pamela Adlin. She's here to talk about the final season of her hit show Better Things. Please welcome, Pamela Adlin! Welcome. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome to the show. This is cool, right? I'm on the Daily Show with Trevor Noah.
Starting point is 00:23:02 This is crazy. Are you kidding me? I watched you on California-cication, one of my favorite shows of all time. I'm sitting opposite you right now. It is great to have you here. Congratulations on, is it bittersweet, the final season of the show? It, uh, I feel happy. I feel grateful.
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Starting point is 00:25:28 Well, I like to say that my character Sam is me in a cape. So it's like the ultra version of me. So she's like, I always, it's that conversation you have with yourself when you're in the car or on the bus, you're driving home and you're like I wish I had said that you know you know or that would have been so bad if this happened and you your mind goes through it and or I wish I had done this with my kids you know but when you're a parent it's exhausting anyway and even if you have a partner and so I I don't have a partner and I raised you have a partner and so I don't have a partner and I raised three girls by myself and so I was always looking for ways
Starting point is 00:26:11 to be a better parent and I feel like now that I'm older and my kids are more grown that I'm a better parent now and I wish I could go back and apply the things that I've learned or I've written into my show. Do they ever watch the show or do you ever show them like an episode and you'd be like, see that's what I wanted to do? Um, no, no, like that's credit? Yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:27:06 just it's graduations it's the way your life goes and you know there's no such thing as an anti-hero like when I hear that term that kind of drives me crazy because an anti-hero is a human being. Oh I like that. You know and so when you say Sam's an anti-hero because like early on it was like You know she would try things she would do like sex things or whatever and now not sex things or you know This is a great way to describe everyone who hasn't watched is now like now you're gonna watch because you like wait wait wait wait, what the sex things or the not- Let me explain don't explain don't explain. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi's thi's is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi's thi's to to to to theee. to to to thee. the. thea thea thea the. the sex things and the not sex things? Let me explain. Don't explain, don't explain. That's how people watch a show. Don't, yeah, serves you right. You didn't watch. Now you don't know the sex things. And you don't know the not sex things. She's in the corner like, yeah. That's what you want. I'm just going to leave to leave to leave. to leave. to leave. to leave. to leave. to leave. to leave. to ask. to ask. to ask. to ask. to ask. to ask. to ask. to ask. to ask. to ask. to ask. to ask. to ask. to ask you. to you. to ask. to ask. to you. to you. to you. to you. to you. to. to. to. the the the the right. the right. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. the right. to s you. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to s. S you're. S serves. S serves. S serves. S serves. S serves you're. S serves you're to serve. Serve. Serve. Serve. Serve you're th. Serve. Serve. Serve. Serve. Serve you're. Serve. Serve you're. Serves you're there. Serves you. Serves you're the right. Serves you. Serves you about the show is like you know there's so much heart in the show that it feels like it transcends what's happening on camera and I've heard some stories about set I've heard some stories about how you make the show
Starting point is 00:28:13 one of the one of the the stories I heard that intrigued me had to do with food on set so you know when I was reading up on your life story I I didn't realize that you had been acting since you were a child, and when you were young, you would eat all the food that was in a scene, which a lot of actors don't do. You would actually eat it, because you didn't want to waste it. Yes, well, I did, well, there's another reason, which is that I, you know, I grew up watching television. My father was a writer, producer, and I'm like like soundstage baby and I love television and I want it to be authentic and I desperately want the characters to be real so when I would see people like pushing like the peas around on a plate or your phone on the it's like an emergency alert should Should we wait? Are you...
Starting point is 00:29:05 No. It could be your ring. I don't know. Like if they push their food around on a plate, it drives me crazy. Like put the food in your mouth and eat the f-food. The food is so intricate. You have scenes where your character is like cooking. We cook it.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I'm cooking the food. Yes, I'm cooking but it looks like real food yes I'm cooking the food I'm cooking the food so you're seeing you guys eat the food yes so a lot of times we get to one scene one of my kids on the show she actually her character loses her virginity in the show and it's it's a very like it's a conscious choice and there's there's like these thi the tou the toucest conversation the the they. There's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they theyyc I I I I theyc Ic Ic I'm theyc I'm thycou. thea thea thea theyyyn. they. they. they. they. So so so they conscious choice and there's there's like these tough conversations that happen in the show and how does this lady, this mom of these three kids deal with this on on their own and they get through it and they talk about it and then they go downstairs and her daughter who just told her this makes her peppermint ice cream from scratch. She just want, you know, Sam says I really want peppermint
Starting point is 00:30:13 Christmas ice cream. And that's where they don't have the ingredients and they stop making it right. We just did it and she breaks up the peppermint and we take out the ice cream and then put some agave in it, some cocoa like you know made it up the the the the the the the the the the the the cream and then put some agave in it, some cocoa, like, you know, made it up on the spot. And then the whole crew lined up. They wanted some of the ice cream, but... I love the idea of this. I'm just going to do my groceries at the Daily Show.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Yes. I'm just going to start like making jokes. That reminds me of Himalayan sea salt flakes. Exactly. Maldong, Seesaw Flakes. Living in a world that's not myopic, it means, I mean, you know, you act, you write, you direct, you do everything. What's next, final season? So what would you like to do? What's like a pipe dream, a crazy idea or just something you think you'll do? Well, I'd like to continue working. I love to work. I like to mentor. I like to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, have to, I, I, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the the the the the the the the they.m. I, they.m.e, they.e, to, they.e, to, theymea, theymea, to, to, to, theymea, they.m.e, they. I, to work. I like to mentor. I like to, I like having job fairs
Starting point is 00:31:09 for people because, so there's this whole thing. You know, people are like, oh, I want to be in the business. I want to be a host or an actor or director or writer. There's so many other jobs and I'd like people to know what they are. Like, why is post just, you know, the same kind of people, which is like all old white guys or young white guys? Like, it's- Well, oftentimes referrals, right? Yeah, they refer to each, they have a whole network, but I'd like to show people, young people what jobs there are available. And, you know, instead of, like, the, you know, the the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, you know, the same, you know, you know, the same people, young people, what jobs there are available.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And you know, instead of like, you know, young kids wanting to play football, like young boys, like that's what they want to do, and myopic in that way, what if you can't play sports? There's so many jobs that you can do in my industry that are so cool to learn about being a gaff or a key grip, a rigor, a stunt person, and I like to educate people about that kind of thing. Well, I think you can do anything you want to do. Congratulations on an amazing show. Thank you for being here.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Really wonderful having you. People, the first finale of Better Things airs Monday, April 25th at 10pm on FX and streaming on Hulu. We're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. We're not talking to you for tonight. But before we go, before we go, nearly 4,000 homes have been destroyed and more than 40,000 people have been displaced by the floods and the mudslides happening in South Africa. Now, gift of the givers is a South African-based disaster relief organization that are on
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