The Daily Show: Ears Edition - After the Cut - 2025 Part 1
Episode Date: May 3, 2025Check in with The Daily Show hosts as they connect with the studio audience after the cameras cut. Except for the part about the cameras cutting. They never cut. We're always watching... Jon Stewart s...hares about the humiliation of losing a Super Bowl bet. Ronny Chieng is visited by Bill Murray to celebrate getting American citizenship. Michael Kosta explains why he's hobbling around the set, and opens up about his road to hosting The Daily Show. Jon bleeds for comedy... again. Jordan Klepper talks about finding common ground with Trump Supporters. And Jon digs in on why the F-word (fascism) matters, and offers some words of wisdom from his years at the desk. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So, I made a bet with a gentleman by the name of Jalen Bronson,
he's a basketball player for the, we call him the New York Knickerbockers.
He's a point guard for our New York Knickerbockers.
He and I made a bet about two months ago.
His bet was if the New York Giants lose
to the Philadelphia Eagles in the regular season,
I have to wear a Saquon Barkley Eagles jersey
to Madison Square Garden.
I accepted this bet,
even though this bet is inevitability.
Like, the Giants suck.
Like, the Giants won three games this year,
and the Eagles are in the Super Bowl.
And that was, it's not like that surprised me,
it didn't sneak up on me.
Like, when he asked me, I was thinking in my head like,
but the Giants suck.
But I didn't say like, give me points,
I just went like, okay.
And so, Saturday night, this Saturday night,
I went to the Knicks game
in a Saquon Barkley Eagles jersey
and an Eagles bucket hat.
And I was in my home arena
booed relentlessly.
And by the way, like, not just in the arena,
on the street, like, walking in the arena, on the street, like walking by pretzel guys
who were like, you f***ing shook!
So that was my weekend, so good luck in the Super Bowl. How did you find your interview character?
Some guy just skid on the floor when you were singing.
What did you say?
Oh, what are you doing?
This never happens by the way.
So I just walked backstage.
I'll speak loudly because I'm not wearing a mic now, but they said that you're very
excited today because today you just found out that you have become an American citizen.
Thank you so much.
Thanks so much.
It's a crazy day.
Thank you.
You're the best.
You're the best. It's a crazy day. Thank you very much. Thank you, thank you.
You're the best.
You're the best.
What up? All right.
Worst interview ever.
Just wouldn't leave.
Yeah, it is a crazy experience to become a US citizen
the same day you're supposed to interview Bill Murray.
So I guess that's a, it's been a long day.
I had to go for the interview.
They asked you like a hundred questions. It's questions which I bet none of you could answer.
And I had to memorize how many colonies there were and there was like a state and who's
the president right now. It was very difficult.
Now I'm going to bring out somebody right now who has also been through a lot.
He is a correspondent on the show, but he hurt his foot.
Yeah, he hurt his his Fifi.
He tripped on a curb.
So I'm going to bring him out now very slowly, but I want you to give him encouragement.
Michael Kosta, ladies and gentlemen. I'm going to be a little bit of a little bit of a I mean, I really did a number on my ankle.
Do you want to tell them the story?
So can I tell?
Michael is like an actual, like, real kind of world-class athlete, to be honest.
Like, it's kind of unusual for comedy.
Like, he has a functioning body and face.
So when he came in, I thought this was, Michael was like a world-class tennis player.
And so I thought it was that.
And it was...
I fell off a curb.
My wife and four-year-old went skiing.
I was in charge of the two-year-old.
So I took her to a water park.
No one else got injured except for me.
I was the only one not doing anything.
And I fell on a curb.
And I'm at that age, John.
People ran up.
I'm at the age where if I had fallen on a curb,
I would no longer be working in show business.
Well, and also, selfishly, people came over to check on me. I thought they're really
checking on my child. So you had your child. I had my child with me and she was she was
crying but she was more crying like how did you fall on the curb? Anyways, it was a cry
of disappointment. You're okay now. Are you x-ray broken? I'm not X-rayed. I know.
It's super swollen.
I also have to host this week, and I just, I get annoyed that you get so much attention
on Mondays.
Yeah.
So I wanted to hurt myself.
But you, you play collegiate soccer.
I did play collegiate soccer, but I will not to be self-effacing.
It was in the 80s when soccer, I mean, the level of...
We could still use our hands.
It was...
It really...
At that point, American soccer was more like elevated kickball.
What made you want to do entertainment, like, on TV?
Well, there's, like, on ITV?
Well, there's, like, the bullshit answer of, you know,
it's important to question societal rules.
And there's the real answer, which is,
I'm the youngest of four kids.
I'm still trying to get my parents' attention.
Um, I...
My mom tells this story that we would sit at this dinner table in Michigan and when
the sun would go down, the glass door would become reflective and I could never sit in
this one seat because I would just stare at myself the whole time.
And I was like, well, yeah, that's because you guys never looked at me, so I had to stare
at myself. I love comedy. at me, so I had to stare at myself.
I love comedy.
Holy shit, do I love comedy.
We get to make people laugh.
Once your guard is down, we can maybe
sneak an important message in.
Maybe not.
It feels good to laugh.
For once, you feel present moment when you're laughing.
There's very few rules in comedy.
If I say something brilliant, it's like, holy shit,
he's an excellent journalist. If I say something stupid, it's like, holy shit, he's an excellent journalist.
If I say something stupid, it's like, relax, I'm a comedian.
It's like...
It's amazing that people get mad
when comedians say things that are truthful
and not as mad when politicians do.
This is just such a wonderful...
I grew up in Ann Arbor, Michigan,
which is a wonderful Midwest town
of sensibilities of both sides, very educated.
And I just think it just fits perfectly for me.
And I'm thankful for that.
And also, how I ended up here, holy shit.
This is like, there's very few places like this.
I love late night.
I told you when we first met, we came in today.
There's no show.
There's no show.
There's a blinking cursor
on a blank computer, and we create the show.
We, meaning me, I write the show.
No, there's two.
There's a lot of people, but it's very fun.
And here's the thing, it's also fun,
is that no matter how today went,
tomorrow there's a show too, so we'll be back.
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Because we've already paid for it with our subsidies!
Come on!
I'll be going to the hospital soon.
You know, it's important to remember who the real heroes are. So, my favorite thing out of all that sort of Indy 500 pit stop trying to keep the car
on the road was, and I'm not even sure who said it, but they just go, you want some duct
tape on that?
Old electricians.
Old electricians trick.
I'm like, sure.
For those of you who watch the show for many, many years,
you will know this is the second time
that I have going for physical comedy cut myself
to the point where I need stitches.
When did we do it the last time?
It was a margarita blender with you and Oliver.
It was a margarita blender with me and Oliver.
And I hit it down and
like just drew blood and Oliver couldn't have been happier. I've never seen
anything like it. He sat there gleefully watching and that was more of an artery.
I was just spurting everywhere and at one point he yells at me, it's just a flesh wound.
Stop making such a big deal of it. That's not good.
I'm probably going to need to go to the hospital.
And as for you, Stuart, and your visibly, visibly injured hand, that's a genuine problem.
That's a genuine problem. That's a genuine problem.
Don't, that's, that's.
That's a ****.
Yup.
We better hurry up the ****, Vic,
because I am bleeding out, mother******.
John, that's it.
Toss it in.
He can swab himself down.
You're fine, you're fine.
Thank you all very much for being here.
There's no dignified way to do this, really, is there?
And by the way, the story that I'm
going to tell my wife and children when I get home,
very different than the one that, uh, there
I was on 54th and 10th, an old woman being hounded
by thugs and vulgarians,
I swung my fist.
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Was there ever a moment of empathy
that stuck out with you at one of those rallies?
A moment of empathy that stuck out with me?
Something like time.
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No, that is a good question.
You know what?
There is one of the last, well, not even the last, this last election cycle, I went to
a rally in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
And it was terrible weather.
We were talking to people in the morning.
And as I was talking to people, there was this guy who dresses in a brick suit suit.
It's a bespoke suit that looks like Trump's wall.
And he has a handlebar mustache and he dresses like the wall.
And he's one of the first people in line.
And Trump often brings him up on stage.
So he's a mini celebrity there.
And he started hounding us at this rally.
And he was live streaming and he was saying, fuck these guys,
don't talk to these guys, these guys are fake news.
And to be fair, he's right.
But he sort of trolled us for hours that day.
He literally took out a phone and he stuck it into a wall.
He's obsessed with walls.
To try to capture something, our crew was on a smoke break,
and he wanted to try to capture something
to get them in trouble.
And it was a long, hellish day of filming,
and it was a snowstorm.
And so we rushed to the airport,
and we got snowed into Green Bay, Wisconsin,
for the night, because we usually try to leave.
And so we stay in Green Bay.
And the next day, we all leave on different flights.
And I go to the airport alone, and I show up at the airport,
and my flight is delayed three and a half hours.
And who is there?
But Brick Suit Man.
And this is the Green Bay Airport,
so nobody else is there.
And he looks at me, and he says,
do you want to talk?
And obviously, I'm like,
f***, no, I don't want to talk.
This is a nightmare.
This is before I'm traveling with four security guards.
And real talk, security protocol has changed the story.
But I sat down with him, and for the first half hour,
we're all sort of feeling each other out.
But then once we got past this fear,
his fear that I got a camera crew trying to catch him,
and my fear that he's trying to have some sort of
gotcha moment with me as well,
we started talking about shit.
I started to learn about him,
I started to learn about me,
I asked him about things I thought were BS
about Donald Trump.
He was open and vulnerable about things
and the weaknesses he saw in Donald Trump.
Like, there wasn't a middle ground that we found,
but there was a softening in those relations.
And I'd like to tell you that, like,
Brick Suit guy was crazy, and he's not.
He was a smart guy.
He was an ideological guy.
He was a conservative guy, more libertarian,
loved to be a shit poster on the internet,
but he wasn't an idiot.
We talked for three and a half hours.
And as we walk, we literally get on the plane.
We're talking all the way up to get on the plane.
And I show my ticket to the ticket taker,
and she goes, oh, you're in an exit row.
And I'm like, oh, and I'm like, she says,
do you accept the responsibilities of being the exit row? I say, yes, I do. And then I turn to Br like, oh, and I'm like, she says, do you accept the responsibilities
of being the exit row?
I say, yes, I do.
And then I turn to Brick Suit Guy and I say,
I hope this freak you out.
And then you know what happens?
He laughs.
And to me, that is the whole thing.
Like, he wasn't offended.
He didn't take it personally.
He found humor in that moment.
And I'm like, I find optimism in that.
I don't know how to recreate three and a half hours
in a Green Bay airport with a nemesis of yours.
But I know that, like, there's a softening
when you remove the cameras, when you move the fear
that this conversation isn't just transaction
for a gotcha moment, but an actual conversation
about the things that you care about
and things you're unsure about.
I think that kind of vulnerability, that kind of uncertainty is paramount in any kind of
situation that you hope to find any kind of humanity or common ground.
And so I think that is there.
I don't think we live in a media environment that cultivates that situation.
But I think we are humans that necessitate it.
And so that has not been erased by Donald Trump,
but it has been pushed to the sides of the conversation.
And so if we can find a way to allow that conversation
to not exist only on the periphery,
but somewhere in our own lives,
I think we're gonna get through that.
Cool? Let's use some Zen. Yeah.
What do you say to your critics who are saying that you're being late on the fascist message
recently?
Oh, I tell my critics, shut up.
You're a fascist.
No. So, I do appreciate that because I understand the desire, but like I'm very big on, and
I know it's annoying, but specificity and nuance. And I think if you cry fascism at
every administrative overreach, even the ones that are constitutionally okay, you will find
yourself out of fascism bullets when the time really comes to remind people of, because
you will, I think what the media has done over the last ten years is cry wolf to the
point where they numbed everybody.
It was an anesthetic.
And it got to where, what was the thing they litigated
throughout this campaign?
He's a fascist, he's a terrible person.
Democracy is on the ballot.
Guess what lost?
At the ballot, if you told us democracy's on the ballot,
well, democracy got its ass kicked by a majority vote.
So I'm very cautious about when to know like, yeah, hopefully I won't
do it the night after Kristallnacht. I'll get it. But it's like, when do you put your
dog down? It's one of those things, like you're not quite sure. But I do understand how annoying
that is.
I was just wondering, how do you maintain a sense of hope and levity when time
is running out?
How do you keep laughing through all that?
Right.
How old are you?
I'm 19.
19 years old and the world's already beat the shit out of you.
And that, it's always the young dudes that are like, I have a quick question, I'm 19
years old.
When hope is gone.
When the darkness slowly creeps down. I'm 61, so I'm already in injury time.
So I'm good.
I'm actually weirdly always optimistic.
I think maybe that is the horizon of history.
I came up at a time in the 60s where
we had all these great leaders, and we killed all of them, every
single one. And then we went to Vietnam and law and then Watergate. Like, shit was just
unraveling. So I do think it gives you a sense of, oh, it's always a mess. Like, and what
that makes you realize is, oh, so it's just, that's the game. We buckle
down, you got a lunch pail it, and you carry through. You're 19, someday when you're 61
and people will be saying, how do you maintain optimism? You'll be like, you have no f***ing
idea what it was like when I was a kid. You will be that guy to be able to say, like, you think it's bad now?
And obviously, look, it is.
These are tenuous times.
And maybe even we'll talk a little bit about that on the program tonight.
I mean, terrible times.
It's a good thing.
No, but because part of the issue is, like, you just want someone to talk to you like you're a human, like you're
an adult, not like it's a work, not like it's there spinning you or any of those.
That's my biggest complaint with all of this. Nobody expects perfection. Everybody knows
that the obstacles and all the things that are going to be thrown in front of us are
going to be arduous. That's life, like life is hard, you know?
But you just want someone to not bullshit you
when what you know you see in here is what you see in,
like that's all that you can really do.
But how do you maintain, so you're 19,
so are your friends optimistic or pessimistic
or do they not talk about it?
Or are they just on Discord being racist?
What is going on?
I think a lot of people are pessimistic.
How do I maintain optimism?
I try to laugh.
I watch the Daily Show.
Here's the only thing I would say.
I'm glad you do that.
But really we write it for eight-year-olds.
So 19 is a little above our pay grade.
But I do remember 19, like that age,
there is a certain existential anxiety that creeps in.
Because the world does, listen, it feels out of control.
You probably know more about it now than we did when we were.
I think one of the things that's probably harder for kids now is you are, the amount of
information that you absorb is probably, but I would imagine hopefully your
brains will evolve to, you know, because when I was a kid like TV happened and
everybody's like that will, don't sit in front of the TV and eat and just watch
TV and now you'd be so happy if your children would do that like you just be like don't send pictures of your dick to people like
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