The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Recounts Capitol Riot Attack | Ibram X. Kendi

Episode Date: February 3, 2021

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez shares her Capitol riot experience, Trevor highlights Wall Street hypocrisy, and Ibram X. Kendi discusses "How to Be an Antiracist" and "Four Hundred Souls."Please visit�...�dailyshow.com/DreamingOutLoud to help provide healthy food, sustainable food systems and economic opportunity to marginalized communities. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17th. Hey everybody what's going on. I'm Trevor Noah.
Starting point is 00:00:37 This is the daily social distancing show and today is February 2nd, also known as day two of Black History Month. So let's party, people. Bust down some of their sweet Black History music! Wait in the water. Wait in the water. Anyway, on tonight's show, another reason you might not want to get on a plane. What Reddit learned from watching Wall Street,
Starting point is 00:01:05 and Biden better have my money. So let's do this, people. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. From Trevor's couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor No. Here's a distance. Before we get started, today is Groundhog Day. Which leads me to ask, what the hell is Groundhog Day?
Starting point is 00:01:33 People pull a rodents out of the ground and then ask the animal to predict the weather? Really? This is so unfair. Because if Africans were doing shit like this and you heard that we pulled animals out of the ground. Like, there are vinages in Africa where people wear animal skin. And if I try to explain to them that Americans use groundhogs to predict the weather, they'd be like, but why not use satellite data? But let's move on. From talking animals to emailing vegetables. It sounds too crazy to believe that scientists really have taught spinach to spinch to spage the spinach tha spinach tha spinach tha spinach tha spinach tha spinach tha emails. All right, here's how it works. Let's break it down. Engineers at MIT report that spinach roots
Starting point is 00:02:09 can detect a compound found in explosives, like landmines. When the roots detect a compound molecules, in the roots, release a signal. That signal is then read by an infrared camera, which sends an email alert to scientists. The purpose of the experiment is to detect explosives, but scientists believe it could be used to warn researchers of pollution.
Starting point is 00:02:31 The experiment is part of a wider field of research that involves engineering electronic systems in the plants. It is also called plant nanobionics. All right, I'm sorry guys. This is insane. I mean, who emails anymore? Just DM me, spinach. Spinnage? Seriously, spinach. DEM me. But you also know what this means. If spinach just got on email, it means that they're not as savvy about it as everyone else. So let me be the first to say...
Starting point is 00:03:06 Grittens, my dearest friend, Spinich. I have a million dollars in a trust that I suddenly cannot access until the first day of March. If you are able to wire me $10,000, I will pay you back 15 times over. Please, Spinach, I need you. And now, we play the waiting game. But congrats, man. Congratulations to the scientists who are working on this breakthrough. And now that they've taught spinach how to send an email, maybe they can move on to the next scientific frontier, teaching your mom how to use FaceTime. How do I turn the camera?
Starting point is 00:03:42 Mom, I gotta go. Just ask the spinach. Moving on to the coronavirus pandemic. thaicicicicpipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipip. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to the to to to thoom. to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the. the. the the. the. the. to to to the to to to to ask the spinach. Moving on to the coronavirus pandemic. It's the reason sweatpants are now a business expense. Yesterday, Western Australia went into total lockdown after discovering its first coronavirus case in 10 months. You see, Australia is very different from the United States. In the US, water goes down the drain clockwisewise and in Australia they care about stopping coronavirus. Now part of the reason for Australia's success is that Australians don't resist the governments as much when they tell them that they should stay at home.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And it's partly because these people know that COVID is a serious disease. It's also partly because it lets Australians stay away from all the other things in Australia that could kill them. Yeah, my, it's bad enough that the scorpions and snikes are trying to kill me but there's a koala that's trying to give me an S-T-Day. Now eventually, of course, the world will re-emerge from the pandemic and I know everyone thinks that they're going to jump right to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back into their their theirks theirseh if theirc if back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back theirk theirc and theirc, their back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back into their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their into their old lives, you know, like going to bars or theaters, or using the bottom half of your face to express emotion. But you might want to prepare for a period of adjustment, because some things apparently take a little time to relearn.
Starting point is 00:04:56 A new report says some pilots are getting rusty on the job due to the pandemic, because, well, there are fewer planes to fly. Some pilots grounded for months by the pandemic.. to to their their emotion. their their their their their their their their their their their their to to their to th. thi. thi. to to to to to to express. to express. to to to thi. to to to to express. to express. to express. to express. to to to express. But, but to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. But. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. theuuuu. theu. But, theu. But, theu. But, but theu. But, but toea. But, but toea. But due to the pandemic because, well, there are fewer planes to fly. Some pilots grounded for months by the pandemic have seen their skills and proficiency suffer. For instance, one pilot forgot to disengage the parking brake, damaging a tow truck that was trying to pull that plane from the gate. In another case, the pilot, well, forgot to turn on the anti-icing mechanism. Other reports include lining up the wrong runway for landing. To counter such rustiness, the FAA stops pilots from flying a commercial jet unless they have performed at least three take-offs and three landings,
Starting point is 00:05:38 either on a plane or in a simulator in the previous 90 days. All right, I don't know about you, but this is kind of scary. Apparently, you never forget to fly to fly to fly to fly to fly to fly to fly to fly to fly to fly to fly to fly to fly to fly to fly the the to fly the to fly the the the the to fly the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong up the wrong up the wrong up the wrong up the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the wrong the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the wronging the wronging the wronging the wronging the wronging the wronging the wronging the wronging the wronging the wrong't know about you, but this is kind of scary. Apparently you never forget how to ride a bike, but you forget how to fly a plane after like five days? Oh man, this is gonna change everything. Next time the plane hits turbulent, the pilot's gonna jump on the intercom like, are there any hijackers on board? We need someone who knows how to fly the plane.......... And to to to toe toe toe toe their, their, toe, their, their, their, their, their, their, toe, their, their, toe, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thiii. toe.a. toe.a.a.a.a.a. toe.a.a. toe.a. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. their, their, to knows how to fly the plane. I repeat, any hijackers, please make yourself known to the cabin crew. And listen, I get that pilots are human, and everyone makes mistakes at their jobs,
Starting point is 00:06:09 but there are certain jobs where there is way less room for error. You know, like as a mail carrier, you might say, oh whoops, this package was supposed to go to Miami, and I accidentally sent them to heaven. And trust me now, this is not just going to be pilots, people. Everyone is going to be rusty after COVID. Projectionists are going to be showing movies upside down. Bouncers are going to be letting in groups of ugly dudes and they got you their lunch money. Meanwhile, until the pandemic is actually over,
Starting point is 00:06:45 Americans are going to need more help getting through it. And the big question of what that help will look like is dominating Washington, D.C. right now. President Biden's Pledge of bipartisanship facing its first test tonight. The president inviting 10 Republican senators to the Oval Office to pitch their COVID relief counteroffer. Their $600 billion proposal is a mere fraction of the President's $1.9 trillion package. The GOP plan leaves out a minimum wage boost the President includes, and whittles down
Starting point is 00:07:18 his $1,400 direct payments to Americans to $1,000 to $1,000. Still, when all was said and done, the White House did not appear to be conceding much ground saying the President will not settle for a package that fails to meet the moment. This is a sign of this effort from President Biden to get bipartisanship here, but it also comes as Democrats on Capitol Hill are paving the way to move forward
Starting point is 00:07:40 with only Democratic votes for this relief package. Look man, I'm not going to lie. I get why Democrats and Republicans are having trouble agreeing on this relief package. I mean, this is a difference of $1.3 trillion. How do you compromise when you're that far apart? It's like deciding what you want to get for dinner. And you want something nice, but your date wants to eat out of a gas station trash can. You can't compromise th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho thoomo tho tho tho tho thoomoome thoome thoome thoome thoom. I to to to to to to to to to to to tho to to tho tho tho tho th. I I I I th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. Ia th. Ia th. Ia th. tho tho tho tho tho thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo date wants to eat out of a gas station trash can. You can't compromise and eat out of a nice trash can. But I also do love how Republicans suddenly get stingy the second that a Democrat comes into office.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Because don't forget, during the Trump years, they were handing out tax cuts with a strip of money gun. But now that Biden is president, suddenly they're trying to hand out COVID relief a penny at a time. One penny, two pennies. Am I making it rain yet? Three pennies? Yes, more of a drizzle, I agree. Now, a lot of people are upset about the Democrats plan to give people $1,400. Because they say that the Democrats promised to give people $2,000.
Starting point is 00:08:42 But the Democrats are arguing that everybody already got the first. a month ago. And I get the Democrats' point on this one, but at the same time, so many people are struggling right now, why not just give them $2,600 instead? I mean you can find the money somewhere. Just take it from Space Force. Trump is gone. We don't have to the second most talked about Instagram video from last night after court-side Karen. The post by Representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, who gave a harrowing account of her personal experience during the Capitol attack. We're getting an eye-opening new look inside last month's siege on the U.S. Capitol.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Ocacio Cortez describing the impact of the riots, sharing details about what happened to her during the insurrection at the Capitol, telling her viewers, she felt like she was going to die. All of a sudden, I hear, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, on my door like this, like the bathroom door is behind me, or rather in front of me, and I'm like this, and the door hinges right here, and I just hear, where is she? And this was the moment where I thought everything was over. I just happened to, you know, be a spiritual person. And, you know, to, you know, be a spiritual person. And, the, like, and I'm, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th everything was over. You know, I just happened to, you know, be a spiritual person and be raised in that context.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And I really just felt like, you know, if this is the plan for me, then people will be able to take it from here. Wow. You know, for a lot of us at home, the Capitol riots were basically an action movie on TV. I mean, it was scary and tense and terrifying, but at the end of the day, we were just watching it. But an action movie is very different when you are actually in the movie. I mean, AOC and other members of Congress
Starting point is 00:10:45 literally thought that they were going to die. On a Wednesday afternoon, no less. I mean, nobody should die in the middle of the week. That means you went to work on Monday and Tuesday for nothing. And thank God that no members of Congress were actually hurt. But even just believing that you're going to die is a major trauma. And AOC handled it way th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thin, thin, thi, die is a major trauma. And AOC handled it way better than I would have. I mean, she was like, if this is where my journey ends, so be it. If I thought I was about to die, I wouldn't be pondering my journey.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I'd be trying to delete my browser history. And to everyone out there who's saying, oh, how scared could she really have been, thrown. thrown. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that. that. that. that. that. tho, tho, tho, that, that, that. tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that's, that's, that's, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. th. th. th. someone knocks on the bathroom door, when there isn't even a riot. Someone's in here! Oh God, now they're going to know that I poop. So I'm glad that AOC shared the story because many Republicans in Congress would like to just pretend that this shit never happened, that the lives of Congress members and their staff weren't in danger and killed. But if there's no accountability, then it becomes easier and easier for it to happen again. And the last thing we need from this
Starting point is 00:11:52 action movie is a sequel. All right, when we come back, we'll look at why hedge funds are so mad about the Game Stop Uprising and Ibrum X Candy is joining us on the show, so don't go away. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of thone of thone of thone of thone of to to thone of tosesesesesesesesesesesesesesese. Snewne of toen to se se sese. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. toe. to to to to to toe. Se. S, to th. to to to 60 minutes. to 60 minutes. to 60 minutes. to 60 minutes. to 60 minutes. to 60. to 60. to 60. to 60. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. th. S. S that's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Welcome back to the daily social distancing show. By now, you've probably heard about the GameStop uprising. The biggest thing to happen with video games since Sonic got busted for doping. But if you haven't heard the news, what happened was that some Wall Street hedge funds bets a lot of money that the stock price of the video game store GameStop would fall.
Starting point is 00:12:56 But a bunch of people on Reddit found out about those bets, so they started buying GameStop shares so that the price would go up, and the the the the the the up and the hedge funds would lose a lot of money. And lose a lot of money they did in the billions of dollars. So as you can imagine, Wall Street is pretty unhappy with those Reddit investors. A handful of industry leaders are calling for an investigation because of the angry mob that's formed against them.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Last week wasn't a free market. It was a free-for-all market. No doubt about it for my 25 years in the business. I've never seen this form of collusion on such a widespread fashion. This type of behavior is not the behavior that you want to be replicating. I think there's something obviously wrong and it's the gamification of Wall Street. Talk to one analyst this morning, guys. He said, this is dangerous. They forget they're buying a stock in a piece of a company.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It's not just some symbol that you play hot potato with. Just because you throw the Hail Mary pass in your backyard and it's caught for the touchdown in the wind, doesn't mean you're Tom Brady. What's going through my mind is how th feel and how every day I just don't want to get out of bed and how it's the least amount of fun I think I've ever had. Oh man, these Wall Street guys are taking this so hard that their interviews are just turning into therapy sessions. I feel so irrelevant right now,
Starting point is 00:14:19 and I'm not having any fun and I just remembered my parents never hung my paintings on the refrigerator. But the truth is what the Redditors did here is nothing new. In fact, the only thing that makes this so unique is that this is just the first time that the little guy has used the big guys' tactics against them. Because when it comes to manipulating the market and treats like a game, no one is better at it than Wall Street. I mean, they do this shit all the time. In fact, let's take a look at a few examples,
Starting point is 00:14:48 starting with the scam one Big Bank pulled just a few years ago. The New York Times reporting over the weekend that Goldman Sachs is running a scheme to artificially inflate aluminum prices. An aluminum warehouse controlled by Goldman Sachs. Holds the equivalent of a quarter th. North American demand for the metal, but only offloads or distributes a required minimum of 3,000 tons a day, no more, no less, whatever the demand. Pushing prices of the metal higher, even as demand has declined. Goldman profits from this practice two ways. First from the extended rents paid to store the metal, and second, by the bets made on aluminum futures by its trading arm. The inflated aluminum
Starting point is 00:15:28 pricing by Goldman and other financial players has cost American consumers five billion dollars over the last three years. Yeah that's right. Basically, Goldman Sachs manipulated the supply of aluminum by only letting out a little bit at a time. You know the same way Daniel Day Lewis limits the supply of movies is in. I mean the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tra the the the tra tra tra tra tra tra their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the tre tre tre tre trtrtre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre. tre. tre. I tre. I'm treanananan. Iea trade.eauu.eu.eu.eau.eu.eau.eau.eau.eau.eau.eau.eau. tradeea. tr out a little bit at a time. You know, the same way Daniel Day Lewis limits the supply of movies is in. I mean, the dude's only been in six movies over the past 20 years. The Rock made that many movies yesterday. Get to work, Danny!
Starting point is 00:15:55 By the way, for the rest of the segment, I'm going to be pronouncing it's aluminum, even though the correct pronunciation is aluminum, but we had the the the people I work with are American and so they won. And I didn't want to accept the election result, but then I was like, no, we don't want to do that again. And I'm sorry guys, but aluminum should never be hoarded. It needs to be used the way God intended to make condoms for robots or for Marjorie Taylor Green to wear as a hat. And believe it or not, Goldman Sachs got away with this scheme for years until people caught onto it.
Starting point is 00:16:29 So I guess you could say that their aluminum plan was foiled. Wow! Bound, bough. Now, as crazy as this is, it's actually a common tactic with Wall Street. You take over a market and then manipulate its supply to drive up the price, like how JPMorgan used its control over electricity to fleece California. JPMorgan Chase accused of manipulating energy prices and so driving up the electric bills of millions of Americans.
Starting point is 00:17:01 At night, when energy prices are very low, essentially, they would bid them up so that in the morning, the companies would go to buy energy and find the prices artificially high. It takes a few hours to get a power plant going, so they would have to buy the energy in the morning when it was very, very expensive. In one case, J.P. Morgan duped California utilities into paying $99 per megawatt hour when the going rate was only $12. Yo, this shit is crazy. It's like these guys were sitting around a table like, I'm tired of just abusing our power metaphorically.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Let's do it for real. Basically, because of JPMorgan, the cost of electricity went up from $12 per megawatt to almost $1,000 per megawatt. Even Amish people were like, Yo, I don't even know what electricity is, but that shit is messed up, Bee! I hope the Amish community doesn't come after me on Twitter for that one. I mean, at that price, I would actually be less upset if you jumped me and robbed me.
Starting point is 00:17:59 At least then it feels like you had to work for it. And th and th and th. And th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. the is theeean, thean, thean, theaa'''a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a, the truth is, people, this isn't something hedge fund people are ashamed of. In fact, some of them even brag about it on the TV. Jim Kramer once made a fortune running a successful hedge fund. He went on to host his own TV show Mad Money that offers stock tips to investors. But as Kramer has found out lately, a lot of Americans are mad at him. This video made in 2006 has suddenly gone viral. Kramer explains to his own financial website, the street.com, how he could influence stock prices up and down as the manager of a massive hedge fund. You know, a lot of times when I was short at my hedge fund and I was
Starting point is 00:18:37 positioned short, meaning I needed it down. I would create a level of activity beforehand that could drive the futures. It doesn't take much money. But it's a fun game and it's a lucrative game. I would encourage anyone who's in the hedge fund game to do it because it's legal. And it is a very quick way to make money and very satisfying. By the way, no one else in the world would ever admit that, but I can care. These people got no shame. No shame, zero, not thi thi thi thi to to to to thi.. to to to to to thi. thi. thi. to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. But, thi. But, thi. But, thi. But, thi. But, thi. But, but thi. But, but thi. But, but thi. But, but thi. But, but thi. But, but thi. But, but thi. But, but thi. But, thi. But, thi. But, thi. But, thi. But, thi. But, thi. But, thi. But, thi. It thi. It thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thiiiii. It's thiii. It doesn't thi. It doesn't thi. It's thi. It's thi. else in the world would ever admit that, but I can care. These people got no shame. No shame. Zero, nada, zilch. He's just out here boasting about his evil plans.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I mean, the only people who do that are hedge fund guys and bond villains. I mean, listen to him. Listen to him, talk about it. It's legal, and it's very satisfying. It's legal, it's legal, and it's legal, it's legal, it's legal, it's legal, it's very thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. It's very thi. It's very thi. It's very thi. It's very thi. It's very to to to to to tooome. to to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to him. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. thee. theeea. thea. theea. theea. theeooooooooooooooooooe. toe. toe. to remind someone that something is legal, it's probably shady. You know, no one's ever like, Hey Trevor, you want to go to the cheesecake factory? It's legal. But when it comes to hurting people in order to make a buck, nothing compares to the great recession of 2008, which was caused by, guess who? Wall Street manipulating the markets. During the hot housing market, banks took millions of home mortgages,
Starting point is 00:19:49 many held by people who could not afford them, and bundled them into packages as mortgage securities. JPMorgan today admitted that it sold those packages to investors, even though its executives knew that many of the mortgages were highly suspect. When the market collapsed, those packages became mostly worthless. Goldman sold investors subprime mortgage packages, but then made its own bet those same investments would lose value without telling investors. Goldman employees themselves used profanity to disparage the deals. Boy, that Timberwolf was one-sh-sh-h-dee deal.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And when asked if any of the executives at least felt partly responsible for the financial collapse... There's things that we wish we could have done better in hindsight. Or even regret? Regret to me means something that you feel like you did wrong, and I don't have that. When you hear your own employees or read about those in the emails, do you feel anything? I think that's very unfortunate to have on email. Are you embarrassing? And very unfortunate, I don't, I don't, on the emails and people, how about feeling that way?
Starting point is 00:20:55 I think it's very unfortunate for anyone to have said that. God damn. Even the crowd, do you see them? Even the crowd in the chamber was like, the, the, the, to, the, to, the, to, to, to, the, the, to, the, the, the, th, th. th. the, th. th. th. the, the, th. thi, the thi, the thi, thi, the the, they. they, they, they. they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they. they, they. they. I, they. I, th. I. I, th.. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, is. And, is. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, they. And, they. And, the th.? Even the crowd in the chamber was like, Oh! You know how bad you have to screw things up to turn a sanitaring into a Jerry Springer taping? But this is how you know how psychotic these guys are. Not only did they tank the economy, but they talk about emotions like their serial killers. Do you regret hurting these people? Regret is a thing that one feels when one has done something wrong. I mean, how can you expect these guys to change their behavior when they can't even express their remorse?
Starting point is 00:21:31 The closest Wall Street comes to reflecting is doing coke off of a mirror. So after all the damage Wall Street has done to people's lives, please miss me with all of this whining about how unfair it is for Reddit to boost GameStop. And don't get me wrong. I'm not saying all these Reddit guys are heroes, but I will say it has been fun watching how some of the people who got rich off of GameStop have been spending their money. While GameStop has meant plenty of millionaires, many retail investors are using their more modest profits to pay bills.
Starting point is 00:22:02 One Reddit user even posting that he paid off his student loan debt thanks to the money he's made off of GameStop the last few days. Ten-year-old Jadon Carr. Two years ago his mom bought him ten shares of GameStop as a Kwanza gift. Back then they were six dollars each. Now he sold them for more than $3,000 dollars. What are you going to do with the money money money money money money money money money money that money that money that money that money that money money that money that money that money that money that money that that money money that that that money that that that that that that that that that that that that you that that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that that that that the money. the do with the money that you've made on GameStop? I've already saved 2,200 of it and the rest of the thousand is going to go to the Westmore Company.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Hunter Khan cashed in on the Game Stop phenomenon last week but didn't just cash in for himself. He used some of the money he made to donate six Nintendo Switches and games to the children's hospital in Minnesota. One day trader who cashed in on the craze walked into a Game Stop store this week and started handing out $100 bills to employees. After the Robin Hood app halted trading on GameStop, one investor charted a plane to fly a banner over the company's headquarters saying, suck my nuts, Robin Hood. Ooh, that's a gangster move right there. It's like Twitter, but in the sky. Now, you could say it's childish to spend money you took from Wall Street to dunk on Wall
Starting point is 00:23:10 Street, and that may be, but in the words of Jim Kramer, it's legal and very satisfying. All right, when we come back, Ibrum Xkendi will talk about African-American history that you might have missed. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
Starting point is 00:23:35 But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Earlier today, I spoke with Professor Ibrum X-Kendi. He's a historian, who you might know from his award-winning book,
Starting point is 00:24:02 how to be an anti-racist. We talked about his new anthologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyologyology award-winning book How to Be An Antircist. We talked about his new anthology of African-American history and so much more. Professor Kendi, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. It's great to be back on the show. Yeah, it's good to be back for you. But technically, the last time I saw you was in the studio. A lot has changed since then. I mean, not just the fact that people are at home, but the fact that America has seen so many changes,
Starting point is 00:24:29 and yet some may argue America has seen so much more of the same. Your book grows to the New York Times bestsellers list during the protests. And what many people gravitated to in your work was how you laid steps out for people to engage in anti-racism. Tell me a little bit more about that. And firstly, why you felt it was necessary to lay out the steps and the tools that people could use and why it's so important to be anti-racist as opposed to just not being racist. When racial inequity and injustice is normal, if you do nothing, what's gonna happen to that normality?
Starting point is 00:25:05 It's gonna persist. And so I really wanted to encourage people to actively challenge racism, but also to realize there's a direct opposite to notions of racial hierarchy. And that's notions of racial equality, which are anti-racist ideas. There's a direct opposite to policies that lead to maintain racial inequity.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And that's anti-racist policy. So we can be creating a different type of America with different types of policies and different type of ideas. A lot of people love your work because you delve into the past and you're tired to the present. This project is really special because you are editing a book about the history of being African American and yet instead of just looking at it through the lens of one person, one author, one storyteller, you've gone with multiple stories. Just everyone from every walk of life who fought for black freedom in America, from the slave trade all the way through to the current day.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Tell me why you thought you could re-tell a story that has been told so many times in a different way. Why did you think I'll jump on this project to edit this book? Well, I mean, with the 400th anniversary or birthday of a Black America approaching, I think we wanted to figure out a new way to tell black America's history. We wanted a new way to commemorate this moment. And one of the oldest racist ideas is this idea that we're a monolith, that there is not incredible diversity within black America.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And also, African American history has traditionally been written by a man, oftentimes a black man. And so I think with those two things, we really wanted to bring together a community to write the history of a community, an extremely diverse community. And that's one of the things we're most proud about in terms of this book, just the diversity of blackness within the book, and even the ordinary and extraordinary characters we share. When you look at those stories, do you ever wonder what your dream is for the end goal? Sometimes I'll be talking to friends who will say, what is your definition of white privilege? And I say, just for me personally, I go, for me, white privilege is you have the opportunity
Starting point is 00:27:29 to fail on your behalf and succeed on your behalf and your behalf alone. You know, if a white man launches a rocket to the moon, you know, if a white man shoots up a school, that's what he did. If a black person launches a rocket to the moon, then I mean, these niggers be launching rockets. Do you know what I'm saying? And so I wonder what your idea is as a professor who studies race, what are you hoping that we get to? What place do you hope to see us achieve? Well, it's that's it's ironic you speak about that individuality because I think in the introduction to 400 souls I wrote about how we're not able as black to be to be to to be to to to to to be to to be to to be the thii. the the thia the the thia thia the the the thia the thia thia thiaqqqqqqqqqqqqqqaqaq. thiq. thiqqqqqqq. thiqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq. their their they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. that that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's.aaaa.a. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. I. I. I. Ithink in the introduction to 400 souls, I wrote about how we're not able
Starting point is 00:28:06 as black people to be individuals, right? And so certainly, for me, that would be an end goal. But I also think, you know, justice, you know, equal justice for all peoples. You know, just something as simple as when I see a member of public safety or police officer or whatever we would have in the future, I don't feel scared. You know, when I haven't done anything wrong, I'm not going to certainly feel scared, or something like I walk into a place to to apply for a job, and I don't have to look twice
Starting point is 00:28:47 at what I'm wearing, how I'm going to speak, because that's not really going to matter, you know, especially if, you know, I have the qualifications. I've always wondered, you know, when I traveled the world, you know, I'd be lucky enough, my comedy would take me to different countries. I was always intrigued by how thea the black the black thiiii people thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. to, th. to, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. be lucky enough, my comedy would take me to different countries. I was always intrigued by how black people specifically would be treated differently when they were not the black of that country. You know, like black Americans would come to South Africa, and oftentimes, whether it was shopkeepers or, you know, just people in the street, they'd
Starting point is 00:29:21 be like, oh, you're a black American, you're very, very different. Sometimes even Africans from other African countries would come and be treated differently. The same I would notice in America. Is there something in the story of race that is also tied to the history of how the country has treated the people of that race in the country? I think so. I think tho son th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the thr-I thracea. theate to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. thr. thr. the thr. the the the, I would would would would would would the, I would the, I'm thr. the, thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. toeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean. toeeean. toean. toean. toeean. toean. toe. I think race and racism is simultaneously global and national. In other words, you can see similar trends across the world, but each of those trends, each of those policies and each of those racial constructions are distinct to the nation. But what's also consistent is pretty much, every nation in the world argues that they're not racist towards black people.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yeah, you see that across the board. Whether it's, you know, the South African apartheid government or through to the US no matter who it is, people go like, no, no, no, no, we're not racist. We just do these racist things to these people. There's a new administration in the White House. Many people feel like this is a new opportunity for America. Joe Biden has said on multiple occasions that racism is going to be at the forefront of his agenda, which has drawn him a lot of criticism.
Starting point is 00:30:37 What would you hope that he would do, actually do, that could move America forward in achieving that racial equality? Well, one thing he's doing with the coronavirus is he's, he continues to say that he's going to put science before politics. And so as it relates to racial inequity and injustice, if he was to put silence science before politics, if he was to essentially look at what scholars are saying, how we can eliminate inequities and injustices, how we can reduce or eliminate police not necessarily be as concerned about white swing voters or even Republican voters, then I think he would be able to make some serious advances in rooting out racism.
Starting point is 00:31:23 But the fact of the matter is, is the irony is the very folks who support racist policies that drive us apart through inequities, who support racist policies that maintain racial injustice that causes people to be killed by police, which then leads to mass demonstrations, are the very people trying to claim word divisive? Right? I mean, that's the fundamental fallacy. We want to, equality brings people together last night. Well, I will say this.
Starting point is 00:31:55 It will always be a journey. It'll always be a challenging one. But having somebody like you and people like you who are writing some the most amazing works to help us figure it all out. I think helps every single day. So thank you so much for joining us on the show again. Thank you for editing this amazing piece of work and I hope to see you again. Thank you so much, Trevor. 400 Souls edited by Professor Kendi and Kisha Blaine is available right now.
Starting point is 00:32:18 All right, we're going to take a quick break, Off to this. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go, this Black History Month, please consider supporting Dreaming Out Loud. They're an organization that's increasing access
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