The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Anti-Trump Protesters Spark a Civility Debate | Bill Clinton & James Patterson

Episode Date: June 27, 2018

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I am here to tell you about my new podcast, the weekly show.. It it it. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. to to the. to to to to to to to to to the. the. to to to to the, the, the th, th, th, th, the th, the th, the the th, the th, the the the the the the the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the t ti ti ti ti. ti. ti. the the the the the the the the the the the smartest way to hire. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show. It's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting. You'll be saying to yourself, TGID. Thank God it's Thursday. We're going to be talking about. All the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me. The election. Economics. Earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking

about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. June 26, 2018. From Comedy Central's World News Headquarters in New York, this is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. Welcome to the Daily Show, everybody. Thank you so much for shooting in. I'm Trevor Miller. Take a seat. Let's get into it. Take a seat. Take a seat. We've got

to get straight into it. We don't have much time. My guests, my guests to-nigh. Take a seat. Take a seat. Take a seat. We've got to get straight into it. We don't have much time. My guests. My guests tonight, my guests tonight are an author and a former president of the United States, James Patterson and Bill Clinton are here, everybody. Yes. I'll let you Google which one was president. Yes.

I'll let you Google which one was president. But first, let's catch up on today's headlines. Do you guys know Rodrigo Duterte, the president of the Philippines? He's kind of like Trump, if Trump was a foreigner instead of a guy who hates foreigners, right? He's creepy around women. He dislikes Obama for no good reason. And just like Trump, he's always saying something controversial. Outrage growing in the Philippines after its leader called God stupid. Late last week, President Rodrigo Duterte asked why Adam and Eve were created

to be allowed to give into temptation. You created something perfect. And then you think of an event that would time and destroy the quality of your work. Who is this stupid guy? Oh man, that audience did not like that. Yeah, they look like when the TMZ staff had Kanye West visit them. That's what they looked like.

And if you're going to call God stupid, you don't need to bring up big theological questions about Adam and Eve. I mean, God made a bear that's too fat to f-fee. That's stupid. That's silly. Just pull that up. Meanwhile, back in the US, the Supreme Court voted today five to four to uphold President Trump's travel ban. Yeah. And, yeah, congratulations to President Trump, because part of what tiptiped for him to to to him him him to him him him to him their their to the to the the the to the the, to be the the, toeoing the the, toeoing the the, because part of what tiped for him with the Supreme Court is that the court said it wasn't a Muslim ban because it included North Korea.

Yeah, which is amazing. Because remember people called it a Muslim ban and so Trump included North Korea and was like, see, it's not a Muslim ban. Yeah. He basically did the thing that guys do when they buy condoms. Like, hey, can I get condoms and a pack of gum, yeah? And the Supreme Court was like, he's not trying to smash, he bought the gum. So kudos to him. All right, that's the headlines. Let's move on to our main story. Sound effect. Sarah Huckerby Sanders, queen of the press room and mother of lies. Ever since a Virginia chicken restaurant asked her to leave this weekend, the big debates in America has been, do government officials have the right to be left alone when they're off the clock?

If Sarah Huckabee Sanders gets asked to leave a restaurant, or if Kirsten Nielsen is heckled while she's eating Mexican food, if Stephen Miller is out on a date and somebody, I'm messing with you, that'll never happen. No, no, no, no, for real, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question, the question is the question is the question is, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, or the, or the, or the, or the, or the, or the, or the, or is, or is, or is, or is, or is, or is, or the. the. the. the. the. the. the. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the th. th. too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, their too, their too, their. th., for real. The question is, is it right for people to protest government officials if they see them in public? And if you listen to a lot of cable news pundits, they have the answer. We need to stop all this and begin to behave in a civilized manner. If we can't agree to disagree and let each other be and neither side wants to do that, it becomes a problem. There are certain lines, I think, that even in this breakdown of civility we've had in

politics that people realize you shouldn't cross. Are you allowed to just kick someone out because you don't agree with their policies or their beliefs? What ever happened to tolerance? What ever happened to tolerance? Tolerance got grabbed by the pussy, didn't you hear? You didn't hear? Yeah. That's what happened to Tolerance. Trump called her an animal, locked her up and threw her kids in a cage. That's what happened to Tolerance. Like, these people have more amnesia than the characters in a lifetime movie.

What happened to Tolerance? And you know, we've also heard people say that it's fine to protest government officials as long as you do it during business hours. Protesters target other prominent Trump officials and supporters during their personal time. Sarah Huckabee Sanders is at a restaurant with her family. Seven people there. Are her kids watching this? Are her kids seeing her mom being harassed just because they don't agree with her political opinions? It's funny how these people are saying administration officials shouldn't be protested during their off hours as if the administration's policies only work from 9 to 5, yeah?

It's not like when the White House staff goes home every night, all of a sudden everyone in America is like, woohoo, I have health care back until 9 a.m. Tomorrow. Yeah! Yeah! I've only got health care for the evening. Does anyone do a good night dentist? Yeah? And by the way, night dentist is the job Stephen Miller looks like he should have, just by the way. And also, let's not get a twisted.

That restaurant owner didn't ask Sarah Hakeby Sanders to leave because of her opinions. She's a senior official of the Trump administration, not some Randall with a blog. This person was protesting the government. Sarah Huckabee Sanders just happened to be a part of the government who showed up in her restaurant. Right? It's like if I had beef with the tele-tubbies, it may have slaughtered with Lala, but if Tinky Winky Winkie shows up, some shit is going down. Basically, people in power would like to be insulated from the effects of their actions.

But if you're in a position where you can influence other people's lives, you shouldn't be shocked when you hear from the people whose lives you affect. Like even athletes get booed by their fans when they're not doing a good job. And sports has no actual effect on people's lives. A missed shot has never shut down a community center, okay? Never happens. I mean, except for that one shack free throw, that destroyed everything, but other than that. And the thing to notice here for me is calls for civility.

People like, you gotta be more civil. It always tends to come from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from people from from from from people from people from people from people from people from people from people from people from people from people from people from peopleto come from people in a position of privilege, which I understand, to be honest. The person winning in Monopoly is never the person flipping the board. Yeah. If you own all the hotels, you'd be like, hey, hey, let's not fight about whose turn it is. Let's just enjoy the game. Come on, guys. Whereas everyone else is like, I've been in jail for seven hours. If this game goes any longer, I'll miss my appointment with my night dentist.

Oh by the way, night dentist is now a hit show on CBS. Night dentist, when the sun goes down, the cavities come out. And you know, you know what gets me, you know what really gets me is in this whole argument when people say, but Trevor, why can't we be polite? Why not fight hate with love, just like Gandhi and Nelson Mandela. Don't ever forget, in their time, people were not exactly happy with how they protested. The British called Gandhi an agitator.

Governments around the world called Nelson Mandela a terrorist. And every day we see people on the news and social media saying, why can't these protesters be more like Martin Luther King? He was civil? That's why he named it the civil rights. But what you forget is back when Martin was marching, people were complaining about him, the same way these people are complaining about protesters right now. People in Georgia are sick and tired of Martin Luther King. There it is been, he's attempted to stir up strife and disorder and violence.

The best thing for King to do is to get out of Alabama as quickly as he can because he's a menace to the peace of this city. Martin Luther King is a courteree of troublemakers who jump about the south like so many fleas on a hot griddle and cause racial rashes where none have hithe for existed. Wow, races back then were so eloquent. A quarterer! A quarterer! And I like that he says Martin Luther King created racial tension where none existed. Like Dr. King went into the South and was like, y'all are black, what?

And I know, I know that those leaders may have been racist, but even some people who said they agreed with what Dr. King stood for still didn't approve of how he did it. In fact, at one point, he had a 63% disapproval rating in the US. So look, all I'm saying is, what happened to Sarah Huckabee Sanders isn't nice. But as a government official, people protesting your policies is part of the job. And the good news is, Sarah, there's a ton thon thon thon thon thon thon tho tho tho thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi-a thi-a thi-a thi-a thi-a thi-a thi-a thi-a thi-a thi-a' thi-a' thi-a' th, th, thi-a' th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. the job. And the good news is, Sarah, there's a ton of other chicken places you can go and eat. Yeah. And if you're struggling to find one, just ask your boss. We'll be right back.

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Hey, everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, the weekly show coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient-to-bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the game show.

My guest tonight are co-authors of the political thriller, The President Is Missing, which is currently the number one book in the country. Please welcome President Bill Clinton and James Patterson. Welcome to the show, gentlemen. Thank you. All right. Welcome to the show, gentlemen. Thank you. Nice to be here. I'm going to jump straight into it because I have so many questions for both of you.

Let's start with the book. Congratulations on being number one in the country. I'm going to jump straight into it because I have so many questions for both of you. Let's start with the book. Congratulations on being number one in the country. This was an interesting collaboration, you know, because James, you have sold hundreds of millions of books around the world. You're an accomplished author. You've always said that youiller about a fictional president, and yet you thought, let me reach out to an actual president to get the facts right. Why did you think that was necessary? Well, I usually just make stuff up.

And I thought it would be, I thought it would be great. And I've never read a book like this in terms of the authenticity. If you want to know what it's like to be president, and this is a to be, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I's, I, I, I'm, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, this will really give you a feeling for it. Right, but it's an extreme version of what it's like to be president, because this is a story about a president. It's a president who goes out, and I won't spoil how it happens, but basically it's a president who discovers that there's a giant cybersecurity threat on the U.S. and he decides to take it in his own hands. He sneaks out of the White House, which is mind. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi. thi. the thi. the thi. It's a the thi. It's a thi. Yeah. It's a the thi. It's a thi. It's a the the the the the thi. It's a thi. It's a thi. It's a thi. It's a thi. It's a thi. It's a thi. It's a th. It's a the president. It's a the the the the the the th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a the the the th. Yeah. Yeah. It's a th. It's a the. Yeah. Yeah. It's a thea. Yeah. It's a theateatea. It's a theateatea. It's a theateatea. It he did that? I didn't ask him if he did. I knew he didn't do it. Yeah. The answer is I didn't.

What I tried to do is make it as authentic as I could if it did happen. Right. The secret service protects a lot of people. I've explained this in the book. The law says everybody else, even like when I was there, Hillary, could they could sign off of Secret Service Protection for a while. There's no provision for the president to do that. It's like a, but you could maybe do it for a couple of hours for, purely for privacy reasons. Friend of yours was dying or something like that. But you couldn't do it for very long. So we came up with a device. It was his idea the president ought to go. to. to. to. to. th. to. to. th. th. th. to, to, th. to, to, to, th. to, the, the, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. this, this, this, this. thi. this, this, this, this, thi. this, this, thi. this, thi. thi. this, this, this, thi. thi. this, thi. this, thi. this. th. this. the th. th. the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theean. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the his idea the president ought to go missing.

And somebody said, well, that'd be a good idea. But anyway, and so we worked out how it could happen. And why it made sense in the context of the plot with cybersecurity. But the authenticity thing, that is such a big deal. I mean, if the president went missing, it would happen like this. If there was a traitor in the White House, it would, if there was an attack on the presidential motorcade, it would happen that way.

And that was the beauty of the collaboration. And you're writing, you know, throughout the future you you have a president that in a different way has gone rogue a president who's saying I'm going to do it all by myself when you were writing this book with any parts of the current president that you looked at and you were like yeah our president needs a bit of that crazy in him now no we started it before before the election right no because in this case, the president acknowledges that if he did what his adversaries think he did,

it would be an impeachable offense. And that if he told them, if he told them why he did what he did, they would have to back down. But he didn't trust them because he thought they would leak it to the press and then his chance of stopping this attack on America would go away. So that's one part of the plot I'll give away. They're just...

And it... Don't give away too much. We say you though. You cannot run a country when there is literally no trust. But we have seen now for almost 40 years on and off that demonizing your opponent, making people hate them, it's a terrible way to run a railroad, but it can get rewarded at election time. It would be very difficult to write fiction about what's going on now.

Yeah. Yeah, actually, he just gave you a whole riff about how authentic this is and it was until recently. It was a fair description about how authentic this is and it was until recently. It was a fair description about how most presidents try to run the Whiteouts and now, at least what I believe, is that you try to get talented people who know things you don't know, who have skills you don't have. You tell them they're not going to be fired or demoted or isolated if they tell you something you don't want to hear. Then you make a decision. Then if they disagree with the decision,

the honorable thing to do is resign. I actually gave stunning endorsements to two people who resigned with honor from my administration because they disagreed with the decision I made. And I think that's the way to do it. But you want to encourage people to say what they think. Right. And no, nothing bad is going to happen to them. Why don't you do that in real life? The, um, the, um, the, the threat that faces America in this book is not unlike a very real threat that we've now learned about in, in real life.

And that is the threat of cyber security. Many experts warn that wars as we know them them tham tham tham tham to to to to say to say to say, to say, as, as, as, as to say, as to say, as to say, as to say, as to say, as people, as people, as people, as people, as people people, as to say to say to say to say people people people people people, as to say to say to say, as to say, to say, to say, to say to say to say to say thi. their their their their their their their their their their their, their their, their people people people people. their, as their, as their, as their, as their people people people. their people. their people. their people. to say to say their people. cybersecurity. Many experts warn that wars, as we know them, will come to end. And cyber warfare is the future. As a former president of the United States, how real is this threat? And what do you think America should be doing to combat it? It is real. It's been building for more than 20 years. In 1997, when I was still in office, I issued the first executive order on cybersecurity.

We set up a division of the National Security Council. Today we spend $15 billion in, at least in the public budget, maybe it's twice that, and some of the intelligence budgets, as compared with $630 billion the year on every other kind of defense. So, and I believe that anything that is electronic can be hacked. This is a thriller but what happens in this book is real it could happen and it's not okay people go well you know the lights will go out for four hours. Now that's not the case. Everything goes out and their

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I've, you know, I've watched you on the road together. You've been promoting the book. James... Mostly terrific. A lot to find mostly. You talking. theymea. they. thiii. thine. thine. thine. thine. thine. thine. thine. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thrown. thrown. thr-I. the book. thriller. thriller. thriller. thri-I. thi. thi. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr. thr. thr. the thr. the the thr. th you talk about how traveling around with President Clinton makes you understand what it's like to be Mike Pence. Like no one pays attention to you. You're just like randomly in the background. But I'll tell you, I picked up a lot of new moves. Oh yeah, we love the eye roll. Oh yeah, we love the eye roll. You've seen that. I got to doing this. You're going to be taking water off the table at the same time? Is that like you're practicing the moves?

Yeah. But, but, but, but, is, is, is that an interesting, I guess, um, relationship to have? Because you, you're working with a president? I mean, it's been a great. He's been, he's been, the times. Could you could you override him though as a president? There never was an argument we never had a disagreement there never was an argument you were afraid or? Yeah. What do you think I'm crazy? He's got all these secret service people everywhere you know they're out there they're watching. Just two actually you get two hours and you can have a little scared now too because they're watching you. In this case I was the apprentice. In. the. In the. In. the. the. the. the. You. You. You. the. You. You. You. You..................................... You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You.. You.................................................. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. they. they. they're. they're they're they're you. you. you. you. you. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. the. watching you. In this case, I was the apprentice. Oh, oh, nice, look at that. So you, you were-

This guy, he's written all these books. I read a double ton of them. And the interesting thing was, what I wanted to know was, since I'm a voracious consumer of thrillers, and have been for 35 years. You know, I'd call him and say,, it's been 30 pages since we killed anybody. You know, you think you have it tough and you do do in the Daily Show, okay? I do the Daily No, so you're writing every single day about the same novel every day. Right, right, right. If you, if you, let's switch and talk about what's happening in the country right now.

As a former president, you have a unique perspective on many of the issues America is facing currently. Two things I want to talk to you about, civility and immigration. The first is what's happening right now in America, the conversation around civility. People arguing Sarah Huckabee Sanders should not have been kicked out of that restaurant. The restaurant owner did something wrong and you know it's about being civil we should should all be nice to each other even if we disagree. Now your daughter tweets it out that she believes that government officials should be held accountable or should be spoken to in public because it does shape how they see the world. What are your views on this as a former president?

Well I think that the two are not necessarily inconsistent, that is, it is true that when we were in church once, and Chelsea was about 14, we were in a church that was a welcoming church, that is, they welcomed people without regard to their sexual orientation or identity, and this man got up and protested and said we should have been done more about AIDS, and he was absolutely right. And we wound up doubling funding for treatment and research and paying for about 25 or 30% of the global effort at the time. It still was nowhere near enough. That I thought was fine.

Then you ask yourself, well, should you go from there to asking her to leave the restaurant? That's a decision for the restaurant owner to make. What I'd like to point to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that, that, that, that, that, that, th th th th th that, and that, and that, and that, and th th th th that, and that, and th th that, that, th that, that, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that, that, thin, that, thin, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thin, that, thin, that, that, that that that that that that that that that, that, to asking her to leave the restaurant? That's a deceiving for the restaurant owner to make. What I'd like to point out is, would it be better if that didn't happen? I think it would. Did I work hard, and Nelson Mandela helped me work hard when they were so hateful to me when I was there personally hateful, not to respond in kind. Right. But, you know, a lot of poison has been poured down America's throat

since that 2016 campaign started. Calling the, started off, calling Mexicans rapists and murderers. So it's hard to pour poison down other people's throat and not have some of it come back up and bubble up. So, I I would say is, I read the article about the lady who owned the restaurant and I wound up with a lot of respect for the way she debated it, but I also had a lot of respect for the way Sarah Huckabee Sanders handled it. I mean, she was very dignified. She didn't chew them out. She didn't pitch a fit.

She didn't call them in them. You know, immigrant loving thugs or whatever. She just got up and left and offered to pay. So maybe what I'd like to see, this be the beginning of something where, you know, it would be better if we started talking each other again. I I I I I I I I I I other again. I remember I had three good weeks with Congress once when the Senate, when the Senate Majority Leader called me a spoiled brat on the Sunday morning television program.

So as soon as he got home, I picked up the phone to call him. He said, you called to chimmy out, didn't I say? the they you say. He said, what do you mean? I said, your staff told you had to do the Sunday talk show. You worked all weekend. You woke up with a headache. You were mad you did it. They could tell you were irritated. They baited you with me and you took the bait. He said, that's exactly what happened.

And he couldn't believe I wasn't mad at him. point is, and sooner or later, people need to put, tearing each other down and go to work. But I think that you can't foam in as much hatred as it's been fomented by the administration with having a blowback. So if they want to have more civility, they need to stop the name calling and take the lead like I t that thank you. When we talk about civility and treating other people like human beings the way we'd like to be treated, the conversation of immigration is one that has really led to in many ways the Sarah Hutchinson story. You see these images of children being separated from their parents at the border. You see the Trump administration calling for a zero-tolerance policy.

What was interesting was then the current president saying that these were actually your policies and President Obama's policies that he is, I guess, fighting against but also enforcing, but completely not for. First of all, were these your policies? No. They were not. So now you go to the next thing, which is, as a president, how do you balance keeping your borders intact

whilst also treating people who have come into the country undocumented in a humane manner? Well, first of all, every country is entitled to protect its borders. We have two border threats today. Fentanyl coming in from China is killing a lot of Americans. And heroin coming over the southern border is causing a lot of trouble. But there's been almost no net in migration from Mexico since 2010. It's a made-up problem.

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So if you, I'll tell you something that, the crime rate among immigrants is much lower than the crime rate of the native born. The murder rate of among Muslims is about a the crime rate of the native born. The murder rate of among Muslims is about a third that of the native born. We need to quit. We need to get the facts straight, take a deep breath and say, yes, we agree with you. Everybody's got a right to protect their border. Yes, we all care about the victims of immigrant crime. What I did do when I was president is sign a bill saying that if an immigrant even won popular properly documented, committed a serious crime against an American, they lost

their right to stay in this country. But this idea of zero tolerance and throwing, putting these people in cages, doing this to the kids, it's an outrage. And we should stop it now. Should you get stopped? And reunto the kids, it's out of outrage. And we should stop it now. And we reunite the kids. One of the reasons, in terms of the book, that we wanted to do, what we wanted to accomplish, is to remind people how important the job of the president is, how difficult it is, how

how difficult it is, how impossible, you mentioned the four days that the job of the president is, how difficult it is, how impossible, you mentioned the four days that the president goes through are very difficult, but we wanted people to think about that, we wanted to think about it when they go to the midterms. Think about how important those jobs are. Think how important it is in terms of who you're putting it to Congress. And when you were writing the story, was it also important to to the, the, the, was, was, was, was, the story, was, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their th., their thea., their their their their thea., their their their the relationship the president has with the people around him? Because that was something that was key in the book as well. Was that really important to translate? I worked hard to, we talked through a lot, to make sure that, at least based on my experience and my observation of previous presidents, that this is a pretty good take of a well-organized White House, where you have strong people who are smart,

who know different things, and have different skills, and they do their jobs, and they make these decisions. And there's some drama in the thing. And one of the things the president did is he just kept pushing and pushing, pushing, so that it would be that these characters would really be flesh and blood. Right. We were a week away from when we had a hand in the book, and then we were still working on one of the major characters. In terms of just making that character more work. That's something I've always enjoyed about not just your writing, but your ideas about the characters.

You know, you have one of my favorite quotes where you say, you believe that everybody loves to read. Some people say I don't like reading you like, no, they just haven't found the right book. Especially kids. Right, which book would you think you need to start President Trump on so that he would start to read? What would you recommend as a favorite? If you're gonna go to? I got a good example. That's it that's a stumper, I'll tell you. That's a stumper, I'll tell you any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any that's that's that's that's a good. I'll give you. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's got got I I's got got got got got got got got, I's a good. that's got got got got, I'll got, I'll got, that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a good. that's a stumper. I'll tell you. No, I don't want to go to. I'll give you, it's a short book. I'm civil. No, no, I'm doing it too. Yes.

And at the end of World War I, a German Christian Democrat named Max Faber wrote a book called Politics as a vocation. It's about 120 pages long. And among other things he says, number one, politics is hard. It's a long and slow boring of hard boards. And number two, if you take a job where you have power over another person's life, you should be very humble because you put you, because you are given temporary power and yet you are not omnipotent, you are not all-wise, and you are putting your soul at risk.

It's a great description of the importance of politics and the joy of it, but how you can't do it right unless you're humble enough to realize that you're holding other people's lives in your hands, and you should value them and take care for them. Wow. The, um, I think the greatest lesson for me in spending a year with President Clinton is just understanding how this guy's devoted its whole life to try to do the right thing for the people in this country. That's a powerful position to be in. It's, you know try to do the right thing for the people in this country.

That's a powerful position to be in. Going back to your point of humility and being humbled, I have noticed a journey that you've been on from the beginning of the book press tour. And that has been the journey of being asked questions about the Me Too movement. You know, we saw your incident on the morning, to to to thion, thion, thi, on, thi, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi movement. You know, we saw your incident on the morning news where you know a journalist said hey you didn't apologize

and you did apologize and that got you a bit riled up. Right, wasn't your finest hour I will say that. And you know and over the weeks I've watched your interviews and I've read what you've said on how these conversations have shaped your mind and your understanding of the Me Too movement. Honest question, has it been hard for you to reprogram your brain? Has it been difficult for you to go, I have to relearn something that is happening now as opposed to how I've always seen the world?

It means that I need to not react to the raw pain of having to relive something that happened 20 years ago, and I need to be aware that, unfortunately, there are still millions of people every day who face objectification, disrespect, discrimination, and sometimes outright abuse. In the workplace, on the street, the street, and sometimes outright abuse in the workplace, on the street and at home. And now we're all alive to it in ways we weren't before, and we're all trying to work our way through, not all of us, but most of us are,

trying to wake our way through how we can use this moment to build a better country in person after person after person's life. And that should be the number one priority of everybody. And you know, I regret very much what I did all those years ago, and I've tried to pay for it and try to atone for it and try to do right. But that's, if somebody doesn't remember what the facts were, I can hardly be angry. It was a long time ago. And so I shouldn't have been angry. I should have not

taken my eyes off the fact that there is still, after all these years, there is actual abuse and discrimination and objectification and disrespect and it happens in the workplace on the street. I mean one of the checks though is the media honestly this should have been dealt with 20 years ago. Oh I I've been done 10 years ago. I hear it all we knew I remember being with Ashley Judd on the of the set of Kiss the Girls and she was in her 20s and she was talking about the casting couch that right right no and it was there. I'm with the the the story. I I I I I I the the the the the the story. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm to. to. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. to. to. tr. tr. tru. true. I'm true. true. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm casting couch then. Right, right, right. No, no, and I'm... The story was there. I'm with you completely, and I guess the should have, could have, goes to everyone, and

everyone has questioned themselves. But I guess before I let you go, you know, as when we strip away president, when we strip away a man who's one of the most powerful men in the world, as a man, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the in, the in, the in, the in, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, goes, to...... to. to. to. to. to. to, their, their, their, their, their, their, to. their, to. their, to. to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, you said, with your past, your instinct is to get angry if someone misremembers a fact or two. What would you recommend to other men out there to begin the journey of understanding and self-reflection? To become first other directed. That is, look at what's happening in people's lives. Then you have to ask yourself, how do I think, how do I feel, how do I act? And both try to make sure you're doing better, even if you think you're a really good person and you're not aware of ever having

done anything wrong, and then asking, starting, asking the women in your life, or if you're gay, the other, your partners in your life, whatever your gender. And then look at the workplace. I was really impressed with what Starbucks did after that racial incident. You remember when those guys were discriminated against? I remember. I mean, that happens to black people all the time. Something like that. And they immediately said, you know, we're going to stop this institutionally.

We're going to, and so I went in the local Starbucks, this little town where Hillary and I lived. And I asked a young woman who was working there. I said, do you go to your training? Tell me about it. She said, no, because I'm a part-time employee, and I was off that day, but I have to do makeup. And I'm so glad they didn't leave us out either. We're all gonna do this.

We're gonna get better at this. That's what we should be, how we should think about this. We've got to do better. Thank you so much for your time, gentlemen. It's an honor having you on the show. Thank you so much. The president is missing is available now. President Clinton, James Patterson, everybody. The Daily Show with Kervanoa, ears edition. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central app. Watch full episodes and videos at the Daily Show.

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