The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Ashley Graham - The Journey of Body Positivity and Motherhood

Episode Date: February 25, 2023

Supermodel and entrepreneur Ashley Graham discusses why she chooses to be honest on social media, how the terms "body positivity" and "body neutrality" have developed, and why she has a love-hate relationship with Fashion Week.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Um, I, I feel like. Yeah, you feel like you're a little taller than me. Yeah, that's okay. Are you, are you, are you want to go down to down? You want to go downtown? It just is, you know, it's like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like, it's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, their, their, it's like, it's like, it's their, it's their, it's a little, it's a little, it's a little, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.. th. th. th. th. cut you want to go down? No, it's okay. It's fine. You want to go downtown? It just is you know, it's like well whatever it's fine. It doesn't matter. I don't mind that you're overpowering me Sometimes sometimes I need to be cut down to size actually Yeah, I do Thank you for being here today. I'm so excited to talk to you because I always love to talk to you because I always you you you you you you you you you you you you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to you to to to you to the you you to to to to to to to to to you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho to tho to to to to to to tho to tho to to tho tho tho to these other models. Well, thank you. You know, I like to keep it honest. Keep it real. I don't know what the other models are lying about, but I do know what I'm telling the truth about, and it's me.

So, I mean, I think that everybody needs to just have a little honest, honest, truth on Instagram and social media. Yeah, and I feel absolutely I feel the same way because I find it very frustrating especially when we think about young girls coming up and growing up and watching Everybody on social media now that everybody's dirty laundry is there to see It's it's such a Crappy example to like let them believe that everybody looks perfect all the time where people are walking around in those tortilla Ship bikinis you know without getting some major things done to their bodies to afford to th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their???? their? their? their? their? their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. And. And. And. And, to. And. And. And to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. their. their you know, without getting some major things done to their bodies to afford that to happen, you know what I mean? 100%. And you're all about body positivity.

Yeah, I mean, I like to represent myself as someone who's just happy with who I am. And I've had a journey, like it is a journey. Being okay with who you are is a journey, body confidence, being okay with who you are is a journey, and there's been waves of it that I've had, you know, mental issues with my body or just physical issues with my body, but you go through it. And I think that that's the whole thing, is like, talk about it. And I don't ever want to lie, because I think about myself, right? I think about when we were younger, what were the celebrities and the celebrities, the celebrities, the celebrities, the celebrities, the celebrities, the celebrities, the celebrities, the celebrities, the celebrities, the celebrities, the celebrities, the celebrities, th w w w w w I, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, thin, thi, thin, thin, th., th., th., th., th., th., th., thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, and, and, and, and, thin, and, and, and, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thin, thin, th th th thin, thin, th th celebrities and influencers and those people that we were looking up to and there wasn't enough being talked about then but now we have

the platform and we have the we have the space to be able to talk about it so we don't have to deal with it but it just is such a problem. Well there was no phrase first of all there weren't influencers when we were growing up. I know I said influence and that was a more pleasant time, I would argue. But, but, I know, before social media was a lot easier, wasn't it? It was a lot easier, but I mean, there's a term, and the term body positivity wasn't even around when we were growing up. So now there's body positivity, which means, you know, you're very happy or you embrace all of your your your shortcomings. I feel positive about where I am in life and it has gone

up and down. Then there's body neutrality which is what? Their body neutrality is like I'm just happy to be in my body like period like I wake up I'm on my podcast pretty big deal I interviewed Demi Lovato and she said I can't lie to myself like I just want to to wake up and know that my body is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi thi. I'm thi. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th th th th th thi th th thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I the thi. I the thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'm the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I can't lie to myself. Like, I just want to wake up and know that my body is surviving and working. I'm not going to lie and say, like, thick thighs, I love you. And that also is very honest. And I think that that's the most important thing, is that you're being honest to yourself.

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but I guess that's what I am. You are, honey. I know. We're both well known for our booths for separate reasons. You're feeding your family and I'm just entertaining people. Yes, and we are so here for it. We are here for it. Give us more. You have a set of twins and you have another son, so you have three children and that happened quick. That was a little bit like a blitz creed for me. Yeah. It was overnight my whole life changed and yes it felt like I was just like feeding a nation but

and on Instagram because she's very you know you're normalizing breastfeeding for a lot of people that are not comfortable with it you have your boobs out you're constantly pumping feeding these kids or not pumping feeding them you know. It's all of the above. There's not one thing that I wanted to kind of be left in the dark, especially with like how your body is changing when you're pregnant and stretch marks and then saggy skin and formula, breastfeeding, because there's also this whole thing with people telling you how to feed your child. So with my first kid, I was like, I can only breastfeed. This is the right way. And then I had the twins and I was like, I'm not doing this. This is this is not working here.

Like both of you want both of these like I'm, this is a lot of work. So I saw breastfeeding when they were five months and I gave them the best formula that I could find in America, Bobby and these little guys are so strong and so happy, so I don't think we should be telling people how they should be feeding their tips. But my hair fell out, like, it was, this has been a journey. Like now I think I've got like little bangs that, like, they come like that. What is that? So your hair falls out when you have a baby?

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I'm gonna walk, I'm gonna sit, I'm gonna join the parties. I already did a few things. You love Fashion Week or? You know, it's like a love hate right because fashion is so much fun like I'm wearing a baumont dress tonight right now and it's like thank you Olivier for making my size and then you find a designer that you're obsessed with and they don't make your size and you're like what am I supposed to do and that's just this performative act of putting one curve girl on the runway or one curve girl into a campaign and then you can't find the clothes when you go to the store. So there still is this long journey, I think, ahead of us with designers.

Because for whatever reason, there's just like this cycle of issues when it comes to making sizes that can fit the US majority, which is a size 1416. That's the majority of US women, that's the size we are. So why are you missing out on this like billion dollar business? Why don't you want to dress us? I don't understand that.

Yeah, right. And I'm here to support, like I love fashion. But the biggest problem is, is that there just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just, there is, there is, their, their, their, their, their, their, thiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi... thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tooi. tooi. tooi. too too tooi. tooi. too tooi. too too. the the the th is that there just isn't enough designers making clothes our size. Well, you've done amazing things for a lot of models, so I appreciate everything you're doing on behalf of all women. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Daily Show, wherever you get your podcasts. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central, and stream full episodes

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