The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Beefzuz | W. Kamau Bell

Episode Date: January 26, 2022

President Biden is overheard insulting a reporter over a hot mic, Trevor examines beefs in the music world, and W. Kamau Bell discusses his docuseries "We Need to Talk About Cosby." Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to Comedy Central. Barry Bonds is being considered for the baseball hall of fame. A lot of people are now asking the question, should you be in the hall of fame if you were busted taking performance enhancing drugs? Yeah, it's a deep question. You know what I think people should be discussing less than the basketball hall of baseball hall of fame? People should be talking about the hall of shame for every sport. Because people forget that a ton of athletes

take all of these performance enhancing drugs, and they don't do shit afterwards. Those are the people we should be going after. You took drugs and no highlights? You out here in these streets, you're just like you injecting yourself and nothing? Striking out, walking off, nothing. Those are the people we should be going after in the sport. Out here, spoiling, imagine how much time of our lives has been wasted by athletes who dope and did nothing.

Those are the people that the sporting federation should go after. If you're going to take steroids and hit home runs, I to take steroids and then miss the ball. I could could have the th. I th. I have th. I th. I have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have the the the the th. I could have th. I could have have the th. I could have have have have have the the the the the. I could have the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I could. I could. I could. I could the. I could the. the. throing. threat. theaugh. thea. theaugh. thea. thea. thea. thea runs. You're going to take steroids and then miss the ball. I could have missed the ball with no steroids. Now you just spoil the sport for no reason. Coming to you from the heart of Times Square in New York City, the only city in America. It's the Daily Show, ears edition. Tonight, Biden dropped the mind. Music's hottest beef. And W. Kamal Bell.

This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Hey, what's going on everybody. Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. And joining me for today's headlines is Michael Costa. What's going on, Michael, how you doing? I'm okay. You know, it's kind of a... January. It's dark out. It's cold. You know, I just got my holiday credit card bills. You know, it's just kind of downtime. I was thinking maybe it would be nice

if for you and for the viewers if I started the show with a fun, light-hearted fact. Oh, and that was it? Yeah. I mean, wouldn't that be... I don't have one, but wouldn't that be nice? It would be good, it would be a good way to start things. Yeah, yeah, I think you took... Because now I got depressed thinking about your bills and the darkness and the... Yeah. be great if you started with something light-hearted. Going forward, that's what we'll do. My man.

I'm glad you think of these things. All right, let's jump right into today's headlines. We kick things off with Joe Byron, the president who puts the hip in hip replacement. Like most presidents, Biden has a complicated relationship with the media, which I get, you know, they nitpick everything he says. They challenge all of his decisions. And they even get their own room in his house, which is insane. Nobody else has to set aside a guest room for their haters.

Well, yesterday, Biden's true feelings about at least one member of the press slipped out. On Monday when a Fox News reporter asked him a question about inflation, Mr. Biden fired off an insult. Do you think he's a great asset. More inflation. More inflation. What a stupid son of it. Ducey says President Biden later called him to clear the error and to say his comments

were not personal. Within about an hour of that exchange, he called my cell phone and he said it's nothing personal, pal. And we went back and forth and we were talking about just kind of moving, moving forward and I made sure to tell him that I'm always going to try to ask something different than what everybody else is asking and he said you've got to and that's a quote from the president so I'll keep doing it. You see this is what happens when you've been on zoom calls for two years.

You forget that real life doesn't have a mute button. Son of a bitch. Was that out loud? Sorry. Now, a lot of people are asking if Biden even knew that the microphone was on. But guys, please, come on. He's sitting there talking into a giant microphone. So there's at least a 50-50 chance he knew it was there.

And a lot of people online are dunking on the reporter saying that he deserved this because he's just some Fox News guy asking a dumb question. And they're right. Do you think inflation is a political liability, is a very stupid question? I mean, what's Biden supposed to say? No, I think people like spending more money to buy the same shit. I mean, if you get to ask the president a question, you should ask him real questions, like, why can't the CDC get its messaging straight on COVID? Or, can you ask your dog to stop chewing my arm? And because of this moment, there are many people who are saying that this shows that Biden and Trump treat the press

with the same level of animosity. And I'm sorry, guys. No. I can't accept that. I cannot believe that people would even say something so disrespectful about my man, Donald Jiu-Jitsu Trump. First of all, he wouldn't mumble that into a hot mic. He would scream that shit into your face. He'd be like, get that son of a bitch out of here. So rude, my crimes are my business.

Biden dropped one-offhanded dishonor report. He's no legend. Attacking the press was Donald Trump's whole thing. You remember that guy? Shit, you can't compare these two. It's like comparing Steph Curry to a random guy who makes one half-court shot during half-time. Show some respect.

I'll compare him to Trump. Can you know, to Trump. Can you imagine? Yeah, I know, but you know, you gotta know about the hot mics, right? Yeah. You gotta know, when I'm on the show here, you know, I know that if I want to talk some shit, I gotta cover up my mic. And our audio guy, he put for me, he puts it on my wrist. So I cover it up and I can say to you, our audio guy sucks, you know that, right? This is one of the worst audio guys I've ever met in showbiz. I'm embarrassed, but then once you pull it up, you know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? He couldn't hear anything, right? Yo, my boy sucks, right? He's one, it's a great dude. See what I'm saying? Don't want to. No? Yeah. Yo, this shit works all the time. He's a clown. You know what I'm saying? Right.

You've got him, Custin. That's what I'm saying, dude. Yeah, no one else heard that. So that's how I stay alive in this biz, dude. And you've got a long career ahead of you. All right, let's move on to to to to to to to the the winter the winter to the winter the winter to the winter the winter to the winter to the winter the winter the winter to time of the year, where we all sit on our couches and critique athletes doing sports we just learned existed. We are now a few weeks away from seeing our favorite athletes sliding down an icy track head first, and also feet first, and also crammed inside a giant dildo.

But it seems like the main event of these Olympics will be fending off COVID. And right now, China is doing everything it can to win the gold. With the winter games less than two weeks away, cities across China are scrambling to contain COVID outbreaks. And officials in Beijing now urging local districts to stay in what they call full emergency mode. Authorities are tracking down anyone in the city who's bought medicine in recent weeks that could be used to treat fever or other symptoms, even something as simple as ibuprofen, and sending text messages ordering them to get COVID tests.

Entire buildings are being locked down, sometimes without warning to the people inside. Yo, China does not play games. I mean they will in two weeks, but not now. Can you imagine that can you imagine your the building your the building your the building your the building your the building your the building your the building your thiiiiiiiiiiii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to thease to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to two weeks but not now. Can you imagine that? Can you imagine your building being locked down without any warning? No warning, nothing. Especially just after you've broken up with someone? Well guess what, Sheila, we're through and by the way, I slept with your sister. Yeah! Ha ha! K-kkkk! Look, we all said a lot of things back there about sleeping with your sister, yeah! Ha ha! K-kkkkkkkk.

Look, we all said a lot of things back there about sleeping with your sister. You know, she. But this is way too much oppression for the Winter Olympics. Can we agree on that? I mean, summer Olympics, sure. Oppress all you want, but you can't be locking people in their apartments for sports like curling. Even the curling athletes are like, guys, guys, we're just sweeping ice. Chill.

I don't know about you, but this story gave me perspective. Because Americans complain so much when a restaurant asks them to wear a mask. But then China will shut down your entire block because somebody bought Advil. And I'll tell you now, nobody in Beijing is sitting inside their house like, damn, this is just like communist New York. Because this is what real authoritarian control looks like.

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This you? Yeah, I feel like we just had the Olympics. I just didn't watch an Olympics. Now you're asked me to not watch another Olympics? All right? It shouldn't go summer, winter, summer. I think we should just, what are seasons, man? It's fluid.

I think we should combine the winter and summer Olympics. Underwater bobsled, you know, rhythmic gymnastic archery, figure skating, basketball. That would be, I would watch that. The biathlon, where you skate and shoot the targets? I heard it for this one in China, you don't shoot targets. You just shoot people who tested positive for COVID. I can't confirm that, but that's what I heard.

I'm gonna call the Olympic Committee. I know you call them a lot, so call. I text normally, th th, th, th, th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I tak tak tak tak tak tak tak tak, I tak, I tha tha tha, I tha tha, I tha, I tha, I'm tha, I'm tha, I'm thaa, I'm thaa, th. th. thi, thi, th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha, I'd tha, I'd tha, I'd tha, I'd tha, I'd tha, I'm thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. ta, I'm ta, I'm ta, I'm ta, ta, ta. ta. togea. toga. toga. toga. toga. toga. toge. about you. Call the Olympic Committee. I know you call them a lot, so call. I text normally, but this time I'm calling it. All right, finally, let's get into some education news. Every American student knows about the SAT, right? It's the only reason you know what supercilious means. It means very sillious. For years now, many experts have been saying that the SAT isn't actually very useful. Yeah, that it doesn't predict how well students will do in college. It's biased against people of color. And rich kids can just hire expensive tutors to take the test.

But now, the company that makes the test is saying, no, don't throw it out altogether. Maybe it just needs an upgrade. The SAT is going digital starting next year. Today the college board is announcing several changes for the entrance exam taken by millions of high school students each year. They'll be answering questions on a digital device for two hours instead of the current three-hour paper tests, but students still do have to go to a school or testing center. The new test cannot be taken at home. As we take the test digital, we've been really focused on students' access to technology. Students are going to

be able to use their own device or one issued by their school. Wow, this is so convenient. Soon high school kids are going to be able to browse Tick-Tock, chat with their friends, block messages from Matt Gates. It's amazing. And I know this idea has its haters. I know there's critics who are like, where is this going to end? They made the SAT shorter, they put it online, pretty soon. It'll just be a buzzfeed quiz called, tell us your favorite Ninja Turtle, and we'll tell you if you're smart enough for Yale.

th th. Smart enough for Yale. This guy should host the show. I like him. But you know what, they actually might have a point. Because the SAT company, they say that what they're going to do for the test when it's digital is, they're going to block other tabs from popping up on the screen. You can't go anyway. You can't just do the test. And the device will only have Have you tried to block pop-ups? Like, you try to close that ad. The next thing you know, you balls deep in a rabbit hole of porn, sports gambling, crypto,

why George Bush did 9-11? I mean, it's all the things you're going to learn in college, so I guess it works. But still. More screen time for kids? That's what you're telling me? Look, the SAT is not relevant. I mean, I didn't do great on my SAT, and my vocabulary is still extremely well. You know, I understand and use words wonderfully, or as some others might call it, a necrophiliac. So it's not like it prepares kids to be successful.

If you want to prepare American kids to be successful, teach them how to sing in a competition on TV or run through an obstacle course. It's powerful. You know what I mean? I feel you completely. Yeah. I really do. I know I didn't need to tell you but I didn't I didn't crush the SAT but I crush... I would have never known. I know. And I, you know, I don't thr-you know, I don't th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to th to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to their their their to their their their to to their to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. I their. their. I their. I their their. their te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. try. te. to. to. their their their t crush... I would have never known. I know. And I, you know, I don't share that with people that often, but to reach the heights that I'm at, yeah. You know, even though I sit beneath you pretty low actually, it's remarkable because my SAT score was pretty bad. And I guess that that really has shown that the SAT, although sometimes shows, but in most cases, does not. Totally.

Because I would have never known you did badly. And I don't share that with a lot of people. I'm, yeah, and you know what, I don't think you should, because there's no point in bragging. You just keep that between us. Yeah, you got it. Whatever you want to... You know what? I didn't, hold on. Amen. OK. Thank you. All right, don't go away. Because when we come back, we're going to look at why everyone in the music industry

is fighting right now. You don't want to miss it. Welcome back to the Daily Show. Like cocaine and harmonies, beefs are an essential part of the music business. Think about it. Tupac versus Biggie Chicks versus George Bush. Keith Richards, versus mortality., the m, the m, the m. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi-inighting righting righting righting righting righting righting righting righting righting right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right rightupac versus Biggie, the Dixie Chicks versus George Bush, Keith Richards versus mortality. And with so many new beefs going on in the music world right now, we figured it's about time to settle some of those scores in our brand new segment

we call beefzers. Beefs us. All right, all right, everybody. This is our first beef. Check this out. In one corner, we got Neil Young, the godfather of grunge, the man with the heart of gold, the dude who owns your dad's CD shelf. He's going up against Spotify, the streaming service that's paid artists, thousands of cents over the years. Can't wait to see this beef.

Hit it! Fans of Neil Young might soon have one less place to listen to his music. The rocker wants Spotify to remove his music from its streaming services due to the spread of COVID-19 misinformation on Spotify's popular Joe Rogan podcast. In a statement, he said, quote, I'm doing this because Spotify is spreading fake information about vaccines, potentially causing death to those who believe the disinformation being spread by them. Now he gave Spotify execs an ultimatum saying they can have Joe Rogan or Neil Young,

but not both. Damn, Neil Young's got balls. Because yeah, he's popular. But he's going up against the guy who's so popular that he's the reason kids now have horse dewormer in their lunch boxes. I mean, at the same time, though, Spotify should think about this.

Think about who's going to leave a greater legacy. You know, in 30 years, what are people going to be slow toto at their weddings? And Neil Young ballad? Or clips of Joe Rogan being wrong about the vaccine? I don't think it's true that there's an increased risk of myocarditis. I don't know. It actually kind of works. Now look to me, the outcome is clear between Neil Young and Spotify. The winner this Beezus is guys who love to talk about how everything sounds better on vinyl. This is the perfect excuse for them to tell you, why are you listening to Spotify anyway? The bitrate totally ruins the dynamic range. All right, next up, the artist who soundtracked your quarantine, the Empress of Evermore, Taylor Swift. She's been dropping albums almost every week. But according to the guy of Evermore, Taylor Swift. She's been dropping albums almost every week,

but according to the guy from that British band that was an oasis, she's not putting in enough work. Let's see the beef! Looks like there is some bad blood between Taylor Swift and Blurf frontmen, Damon Alburn, during an interview, a recent interview with the Los Angeles Times, he claimed, Swift doesn't write her own songs. He said writing doesn't write her own songs. He said writing music doesn't count if you co-write and that co-writing is very different from writing. Well, Taylor swiftly hit back, slamming the musician on Twitter, she

tweeted, I was such a big fan of yours until I saw this. I write all of my songs, my own songs. Your hot take is completely false and so damaging. You don't have to like my songs but it's really messed up to to to to to to to to to to try and to to to to to to the to to their their their to their their their their to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. C. their. C. their. their. their. Coom. Coom. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. the coe. Co-coe. Co-coe. Co-coe. Co-coe. Co. Co. Co. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. the the the the the the t. t. t. t. t. t. t. te. te. te. te. theire-s. theire-s. theire-s. their t. to-s. their false and so damaging. You don't have to like my songs, but it's really messed up to try and discredit my writing. Halburn later responded with an apology saying he had a conversation about songwriting that was reduced to click bait. He said he apologizes unreservedly and unconditionally and said the last thing he would want to do is discredit Taylor Swift. He's he. Yo, that was the fastest ending beef of all time. Because. Because. Because. Because. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. He. th. He. He. He. He. He's, the th. He's, the th. He's, th. He's, the the the the to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's, t. today. te. today, te. today, te. today, try. today, try. today, try. today, t was the fastest ending beef of all time. Because one minute the dude was like, Yo, Taylor ain't shit. She doesn't write shit. And also, I'm sorry, Taylor, please don't hurt me, please.

And I'm not surprised he realized how wrong he was. I mean, guys, T Swift is one of the most renowned lyrics, of! And by the way, by the way, people, there's no shame in co-writing, right? I'm not saying Taylor Swift does, I'm just saying there's no shame in co-writing. Don't forget, even God had co-writers, right? There's Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, they'll help with the Bible. And no one ever says God's fake. I mean, except Ricky Javace. But he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he's, he, he's, he's, th. th. th. thine, thine, thine, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. And, th, th. And, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. the, th. the, th is, th is, the, there's is, there's there's there's is, there's is, there, with the Bible. And no one ever says God's fake. I mean, except Ricky Javais, but he's going to hell anyway, so it doesn't count. Anyway, it's no surprise who the winner of the beefs between Taylor Swift and Damon Elborn is. It's Jake Jillinhal. Yeah, you see, finally, the heat is off.

Now he's in the corner like yeah get that blur guy and I keep the scarf the the next beef y'all I'm talking about Cardi B. The whappiest weapon in the game and Thanks to her beef with a YouTube blogger the bodac yellow singer is about to see a lot more green A legal victory for Carty B.. the federal judge awarded the boda yellow singer more than a million dollars after cardy. A td.. the the the the the the the the the their tady. tady. tta. t. their their their their their t. t. t. t. their t. t. t. t. the t. the the the the t. tape t. the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. te is is te is. te is. te is. It's. It's. It's.e.e.e.e.e.eat.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. It's. It's. t. t. t., a federal judge awarded the Bodak Yellow Singer more than a million dollars after Cardi sued blogger Tasha Kay for spreading lies. Tmsy reporting that the court found the YouTube are liable on three separate counts. Now an issue was Tasha Kaye saying that Cardi B once worked as a prostitute, did drugs,

and contracted sexually transmitted infections. Yes! Sue them! People gotta know. Spreading lies about Cardi B is not okr! I'll show myself out. Oh, at the very least, if you're gonna lie, be smart about it. If you're gonna talk shit about people, don't print them as allegations.

That's libel. What you should do is add a beat. Now it's a distrack. At the same time, though, winning a million-dollar judgment from a blogger isn't necessarily the payday that it sounds like. Because I mean, what are they gonna do? But even though the courts declared Cardi B. the winner of this beefzis, the actual winner is my friend Pete. Because you see, he said all the same shit about Cardi B.

But nobody reads his blog, so he didn't get sued. All right, y'all, it's time for our final beef. We got the guitar guard, the dude responsible for some of the hottest licks and the most racist rant of all time. Eric Klepton, heen, heen, heen, he' the the then, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, thine, thine, thine, thine, thiol- thiol- thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi and the most racist rants of all time. Eric Clapton, he's throwing down once again with his long-time rival, reality. Singer Eric Clapton continuing his parade of anti-vax nonsense. And this time he says he believes people vaccinated against coronavirus are under mass hypnosis. And he is very serious about this. In an interview, Clapton, who is vaccinated, argued this. In an interview, Clapton who is

vaccinated argued that subliminal messaging hidden in advertising is what's leading people to get vaccinated. You know the theory of mass hypnosis formation, once I kind of started to look for it, I saw it everywhere and then I remembered seeing little things on YouTube which were like subliminal advertising. Huh. So he heard about the hypnosis and he didn't notice it and then he looked for it and then he saw it everywhere. So he got hypnotized? Come on people. This conspiracy theory is so ridiculous. Subliminal advertising? It's not even a real thing. I mean, this really drives home that being an expert at one thing

does not necessarily make you an expert at everything, because Eric Clapton is an amazing guitar player. I'm just not gonna listen to him about COVID any more than I'd buy an album from Dr. Fauci. I'm Dr. Fauci and I'm here to say COVID is messing up the USA. This is almost not a beef because reality doesn't care about your heart takes, all right? Yeah, it's reality. I mean, try having an argument with oncoming traffic,

and you let me know how that works out. But still, we have to pick a winner, and the winner of this beef beef this is Kanye West. Yeah you thought he was saying crazy shit but next to Eric Clapton he's basically Barack Obama. Taylor I'm gonna let you finish but uh... psych. All right that's enough of the beef. I got the idys let's take a break. When we come back W. Kamal Bell will be here on the show to talk about Bill Cosby. Oh! Welcome back to the Daily Show.

My guest tonight is comedian and director W. Kamal Bell. He's here to talk about his new docusees series. We need to talk about Cosby. W.Kamal Bell. Welcome to the Daily Show. Yeah. Maybe my last time. Maybe your last time. I just feel like I might be doing my last show. You know what I appreciate you, my friend, is the last time we spoke was like in the heart of the pandemic. I was in my apartment and you're you, I think at home as well and we're talking to you and

I said to you know Camel every single time I see you you you you you you you you show you and this time we're gonna talk about Bill Cosby. Oh you thought I brought the room down before the room is down and they're down a lot of them are down on me right now. Why would you choose to do this I remember you calling me and you said hey do you I'm doing this documentary about. the the documentary to thi to thi th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm tho. I'm thro. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm tho. I I I'm thr-I I'm thrown. I'm thrown. I'm thrown. I'm thrown. I'm thrown. I'm thi. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'mthere is no reason I would want to be part of this document. But no, but in all honesty, it's because, and I know this is strange to say, Bill Cosby just was not a cultural influence in my life. No, we talked about that. And it was so weird to me.

And it was so weird to me. to be tell the to be weird, because, because, because, I about Cosby? I appreciate you talking about that phone call because I got a lot of knows for a lot of people and I've been very clear about other than obviously Hannibal Burris I've not I haven't said who said no so thank you for out in yourself. Oh yeah yeah yeah. So a lot of people said no. So a lot of people I think I could add. I mean I'm I to th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. Other. Other. Other. Other. Other. Other. Other. Other. Other. I th. I th. Other. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm saying like a lot of, I mean, if you stack the yeses next to the nose. Wow. Yeah, and it's, and you know, and a lot of people had a lot of, I mean, I had some really great conversations like the one I had with you with people for a long time that ended

in know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. this thing? Yeah. That was one of the many times I thought. And right now as I sit here, should I be making this thing? It's like I can't explain it other than I was, I'm always drawn to difficult conversations. That's kind of my thing. Yeah. And because Bill Cosby was such a huge cultural racial figure in my life and so charted a path that I should be on. Do good work tho tho the world. And like th th th th th th th th th th th. And like tho tho that that that that that that that that that that, like that, and that, and that, and tho, and tho, and tho, and that, and I that, and I'm tho, tho, tho, and I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I tho, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I thin, I thin, I thin, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that that that that that that that that that that that that that, I'm that, I'm that, like, that's the path I should be on. Do good work, be a comedian, but also do good in the world. Like a lot of black folks, specifically of my generation older, we were just gutted to find out about these allegations and then wrestle with do I believe them and I believe them. And so it's like, and I, that conversation is going in my head all the time, every time he makes an appearance or sends out a tweet. And I'm, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I I I I I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the, the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, we the, the, the, they. We. We they. We're they. We're they. they. they. th. th. th. th. thr. thean, thean, thr. thr. they. the they. We, I found myself in a position where I was talking to the producers of this doc about it and they were like, they had never thought about it this way and so this is where we ended

up but yeah it was, I can only say I was compelled to do it by something that was not rational. I think you doing it has honestly opened up one of the hardest conversations that we need to be having in society, not just specifically about Bill Cosby, but about society as a whole, right? It feels like, especially when you watch this docu series, that there are almost, you know, three generations of people that are going to exist. Yes. There are the people who came up with Cosby, you know, you are sort of in the heart of that. Like Cosby was, the to bec-C, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, to to to to to to to to to to to the tooooooooooooooooo., the, the, the, the, the, the, sort of in the heart of that. Cosby... Cosby was one of the... He shaped you. He shaped you. No shape, it was part of shaping you, really, you know?

I mean, people were talking about this, you know, just before we came out for this interview, like my producers, and they were talking about how, like, in white families, they were like, Cosby's, this is the biggest, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, th, th, th, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, th. th. tha, tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. th.'s dad. America's dad. Yeah, right. And he had done so much. And you know, we talk about how, you know, you learned this in the documentaries, like how Cosby changed stuntmen in America. Like Cosby was the one who said, hey, you can't have white guys in black face doing a stunt, just get black stunt men. He changed Hollywood forever. Yeah, there were no stunt performers under the, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, the the the the the the tha, tham, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He, th. He, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, th. He, th. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. th. th. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoooo tho tho tho tho tho thi. thoo tho thi. thi. He's is this generation of people who goes, man, Bill Cosby changed my world in all the best ways.

Then you have the now generation who goes like, well I just know Bill Cosby as the rapist guy, right? And then you have the generation that goes like, man, how do we, how do we live with the myth? And the man? Yeah, and that's, did you answer that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I the the, I that, I the, I the, I that, I the, I the, I the man. Did you answer that question in the documentary for yourself? I think the way we is to deal with all of it. I think the only way you can deal with it, like Roland Martin makes a great point. It's like you can't talk about black, black, you can't talk about America in the 21st century

without talking about Bill Cosby. Wow. Wow. But you can't also ignore all the things that have come out in the 21st century. Right. And so for me, this whole doc is about creating a space to talk about all of it. It's we need to talk about Cosby, not here's my thoughts on Cosby. And as you can see from that clip, there's a lot of there's nuance, there's anger, there's sorrow, there's a lot of it is based, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, is based, a lot, is based, is based, a lot, is based, is based, a thii, a thi, is based, a thi, is based, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thrall, a thi, is based, a toa, a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to talk, a to talk, a to talk, a to talk, a to, a to, a to, and a to, and a to, and a to, and a to, and a to, and a to, and a to, and a to, and, a to, a toa, a toa, a toa, a toa, a thi.a, a tapot.a, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a, toa, toa, toa, to talk about all of it, because otherwise we lose essential parts of American history. For a lot of people, I'm hearing like, they've been waiting for this conversation to happen in some format.

And the other problem in America we have the like, it's not time now, it's not time now. Yes. Anytime there's any major conversation, it just felt like when I started, he was in prison, I felt like it, it's time. He got out on the last day of filming. Yeah. I had two questions. One, how did you feel about that? And two, did you ever reach out to him to be a part of the documentary? So he got out on the last day of filming. It was one of most surreal days of my life up until tomorrow when he releases a statement about the doc. The surreality will continue. You know, I thought maybe the project goes, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, the, to, to, to, the, to, to, the, to, to, to, the, to, the, the, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the project goes away, you know, because it just so hard to make. I didn't reach out to him because I was always clear that, one, it's a conversation about

him. It's not a true crime documentary. It's not about finding out what this person thinks. It's a conversation about the legacy and the work and also the allegations, I believe, as I said, and it just felt like a real betrayal of their trurusts, to get to earn the survivor's trust. To sit down and have these conversations in a more wide open way, and that would have felt like a real betrayal of their trust to put Bill Cosby into this. One thing I appreciated in this documentary is how you're having those conversations.

You know, it feels like you had to tackle it in a nuanced way. You can just go like, so what happened? It seemed. seemed like there was more to the conversation. What do you think we missed in some of the ways we were trying to have conversations in and around Cosby and in many of his survivors who came out? It was really important for me and the filmmakers and the other producers to go, let's show who these people were. Let's bring them in the dock,

when they're just commenting on to talk about that. Because then the thing happens is like, maybe some woman is telling you about how Playboy worked and Hugh Hefner was, another man who's in this era. And you go, oh, she's an expert because she was in Playboy magazine and she was a playmate. And then you go, oh, wait, she's a survivor. So you get to meet her. to to meet the the the to meet the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thanu. the the thanue. t thanue. t t t t t t to be., thoomorrow. thoge. thoomorrow., to be. to be who's thogeau. thogeau. thogeau. tho. tho. thor. thor. thor. thor. thor. thor. thor. thor. thor. thor. thor. thoe. thoe. thoe. thoe. thrfe. thr. thr. thr. the. the. the. the. the. the. toe. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. thea. thea. theathat, the survivor's about to tell me a story to. Right, right. Is it possible to separate the artist from the arts? Do you think it is possible?

I mean, I would say this, we separate the art from the artist all the time. There are so many ways, could be musicians, could be actors, where they don't have to be criminals, but maybe felt touched by the song tears in heaven, you know what I mean? So we do that all the time. We just don't think about it until it becomes somebody who's so seminal as Bill Cosby. Where if I separate, if I go, I can't watch the stuff anymore and you go, I can't the fight of you mad at me because you think I don't understand, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, thi, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they's they's thi's they's they's they's they's they's theyiiiiii.i. So, they's they's their, thi, the think I'm taking him seriously. And so for me I'm like in this doc we can take the art seriously but we have to talk about the other stuff. Well I'll tell you this man this documentary I can't imagine

how hard and scary it was to make. It's still scary right now true. Yeah no I appreciate that but but but honestly I appreciate it just on a personal level because I think it gives people an opportunity to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the thi thi. thi thi thi this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this thi thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the ti. ti. the the tha. the the the the the the this documentary this documentary this documentary this is this is and a complicated legacy in one of the most nuanced ways possible. So thank you for that. Thank you for putting yourself on the line. And I just be clear. And I want you to know, if you know, thanks. And I want to know, thank you to try and I will like. I will like, to claim that I never knew you.

to today, to to to to to to to to to to to to that. This tape will be deleted, I understand. No, I'm in for real man. Congratulations and thank you very much. Thank you very much, Trevor. We need to talk about Cosby premier's January 30th, only on a show time. We're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go, the. anniversary of Roe v. Wade. And while it is still law, in much of the country, women's reproductive rights are being threatened. But Planned Parenthood is on the ground. They're helping deliver vital reproductive health care, sex education, and information to millions of people not just in the United States, but worldwide.

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