The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Ben Carson's Proposal to Stop Mass Shootings | TDS Time Machine

Episode Date: October 7, 2023

The Daily Show jumps in our time machine to head back to this day in 2015: host Trevor Noah covers Ben Carson's plan to limit mass shootings in America and protect Second Amendment rights. Also, Daily Show correspondent Ronny Chieng reports on updates in the development of virtual reality platforms and Trevor sits with film director Evgeny Afineevsky to discuss his Netflix documentary "Winter on Fire: Ukraine's Fight for Freedom."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John Stewart here, unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show, we're going to be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. October 7th, 2015. From Comedy Central's World News Headquarters in New York, this is the Daily Show with Trevor Noll. Yeah!

Welcome to the Daily Show with Trevor Nola. That's me. Our guest tonight, the director of ay's show with Trevinoa. That's me, our guest tonight, the director of the new documentary, Winter on Fire, Ukraine's Fight for Freedom. Yevgeny Afinievsky is here joining us. Yvgeny Avinevsky, give him o'clock. We'll know him soon enough. But first, the GOP race is heating up. Donald Trump is still in the lead with 25% in the polls, but right behind him, right behind him, and gaining ground is this man.

I'm very concerned about the future of our children. I've watched politicians do that. Of course, you know, I prepare every day. And I'm learning more things every day. Ah, Ben Carson. For people who like Donald Trump's ideas, but hate his charm and charisma. Ben Carson's like the drug-free cocaine for people who don't want to get high, but just like snorting white powder. But it turns out that even the doctor's calm has become too crazy for some. You see, yesterday Ben Carson was asked how he would respond if a gunman like the one

in the Oregon shooting confronted him and it didn't go well. Rising GOP star Dr. Ben Carson is under fire after making controversial comments about gun control. I would not just stand there and let him shoot me. I would say, hey guys, everybody attack him. He may shoot me, but he can't th, but th, but he, but he, but he, but he, but he, but he, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, th. thi, thi, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the. to, to, to, to. toe. toe. toe. to. to. to. to. to. today, today, the, the. I would not just stand there and let them shoot me. I would say, hey guys, everybody attack him. He may shoot me, but he can't get us all. Take action. Get him.

I don't get it. You know what I also don't get is that Ben Carson really thinks that he could rally people against a mass shooter. I think he's overestimating how inspiring his presence might be. You're gonna shoot me? Hey guys, listen up. I need you all to rally behind my charismatic presence and charge with me in a certain death.

Who's with... Oh... Look, in Carson's defense though, he may have been caught off guard, given time to think, I'm sure he'd clarify what he meant. What needs clarification? Do you... I guess there's an implication that you're saying that the students do enough to save themselves. No, I just said nothing about them. I said what I would do.

I would ask everybody to attack the gunman because he can only shoot one of us at a time. That way we don't all end up dead. Ha ha ha! Well, when you put it that way, it is pretty funny. And everyone is not dead. I don't understand, this this this this this this this this thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, I don't thu, I don't thu, I don't thu, I don't thu, I don't thu, I don't thus. I thus. I don't thus. I thus. I just thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I, I th. I th. I th. I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I just just just just just thi. I just thi. I just said, I thi. I just said, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I just said, I just said, I just said, I that that that that that that that, I that. Everyone is not dead. I don't understand this guy. Chastising victims of a shooting for what you assume was their cowardice is what most normal candidates would consider a gaff. But I will admit, Ben Carson does practice what he preaches,

because even though the media kept taking shots at him, he kept charging into those interviews. The accusation there, Dr. Carson, is that you appeared tone deaf and that you seemed callous in the laughter about a massacre and what you would have done. No, I'm laughing at them and their silliness. Who? Who? Who?

the people asking that question? If youto be dead. Let him shoot you? What do you mean? Let him shoot you? And what do you really expect the victims to do? Like, Ben Carson, I don't understand this. This guy would make the worst hostage negotiator ever. All right, sir. I need you to stay calm and put your gun down.

Everyone else, rush him. Rush him. How him now! Rush him! Rush him! How many people are dead? Oh, at least it wasn't everyone. There's also a few other things that Carson would like to change. You said that you'd be very comfortable if kindergarten teachers had guns in the classroom. Not all kindergarten teachers, I said people who are trained. You want that teacher to train? I want that teacher trained in diversionary tactics.

Who are you? Who are you? And how do you think that this is an education policy? This is not an education policy! Kindergarten teachers can barely handle a room full of five-year-olds, and now you want them to be Navy seals? Like, Maddox, I asked you twice to stop pulling Chelsea's hair. Now you get a flashband grenade!

Get on the ground! It's nap time,the victims to reduce gun violence. Because for him, there's something much scarier than a mass shooting. In a Facebook question and answer session, he wrote, There is no doubt that this senseless violence is breathtaking, but I never saw a body with bullet holes that was more devastating. In a Facebook question and answer session he wrote, there is no doubt that this senseless violence is breathtaking, but I never saw a body with bullet holes that was more devastating than taking the right to arm ourselves away.

Wow. This guy must have been the least popular neurosurgeon to work with in that hospital. 17-year-old white male, multiple gunshot wounds. This is the worst I've ever seen. Actually, you know what would be worse. God damn Carson, this This is not that time for the Second Amendment shit again! It's just shocking that such a smart man, a brain surgeon, could have this kind of perspective. Rushing a gunman, it seems crazy. I mean, the only time that I've seen at work is in one situation.

Yeah. It's weird that Ben Carson would think a zombie strategy would be the way to go. Unless... Oh, wait a second. Slow language pace. Dead eyes. Loves Brains. Oh my God, this explains everything.

Ben Carson is a zombie! Whoo! For more on this, we turn to our senior campaign correspondent, Desi Leidick, everybody. Desi, what's the mood tonight in Oregon? Well, Trevor, as you can imagine, people are devastated. They're confused, frustrated. That obviously makes a lot of sense. Right, they're frustrated that the victims never thought of the obvious solution.

Rushing the gunman. It was so simple. Yet it took a brain surgeon to think of it. Whoa, Desi, we're talking about rushing into a barrage of bullets. Would that really work? Tell you what, let's look at the alternative. A little hostage situation that took place in Los Angeles, where the hostages didn't rush the terrorists.

I don't actually think I heard about this. Oh yeah, they took over a whole skyscraper, so it fell to a lone wolf New York cop with a wise cracking attitude and no shoes. And he single-handedly had to take on those vaguely European terrorists. Deszy, is that diehard? Those cowardly hostages just sat there, Trevor, waiting for someone to yippie-kiae them to safety. Desi, that's a movie.

What Ben Carson is suggesting is a fantasy. A fantasy? Ben Carson is the only realist in this conversation. Look, he knows gun control is off the table. And since we can't control the guns, we can at least the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the victim the the the the the the the the the the the the just just just just just the just the just just just just just just just just just the victim the victim the just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just the victim the victim the victim he knows gun control is off the table and since we can't control the guns we can at least control the victim's reaction to the guns. We've all heard this saying guns don't kill people, people shot by guns who don't rush the guy shooting them kill people. I just don't get it, Desi. How can stopping a mass shooting be the victim's responsibility?

Look, this is the world we live in. If you don't wake up in the morning, ready to be a human shield, just stay home, okay? Look, otherwise you're putting everyone around you at risk of being shot by a bullet that you could have blocked. I don't know, Desi, Carson's comments just seem so callous right now. Hey, hey, don't shoot the messenger. Although that would be your right. So you think Ben Carson was correct then?

What? No, I think he's bad, f-crazy. But at least he's offering solutions and not just for guns. Take tornados. We should just rush them. Clog them up with our bodies until they slow down and fall over. Ben Carson has got solutions for everything. Give me a problem, Trevor. I don't know. Climate change.

Grow gills. Stomic cancer. Get lung cancer. OK, here's a problem. Ben Carson. Oh, no, there's no stopping him. Unless a big enough group of people all rushed him at once. No, no, that would never work. Jesse Leidick, everyone, we'll be right back. Thank you, Jesse. Hey, everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly

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wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the Daily Show. Technology. It's what separates us from the monkeys. And to maintain that competitive edge, we have to stay on top of the latest trends. Here to help is one of the Daily Show's newest members, senior technology correspondent, Ronnie Chang, everyone. Thanks, Trevor. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, Trevor. Thanks. For decades, we've been hearing about virtual reality, the immersive computer-simulated technology

that could help us do incredible things, like perform surgery from across the country, or seduced giant blue cheetah women. Now, after billions of dollars in research and development, virtual reality is finally ready to show us what it can do. Imagine you are at a performance of the Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra, but not in the audience. Instead, you're in the middle of the action.

That's the experience the LA Phil want to bring to the world with a new virtual reality app. Yeah, a classical music concert. Great. Now I get to be bored out my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my the the the the the the the the the to be to be to be to be to be the to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th..................................................................................................................., a classical music concert. Great. Now I get to be bored out my mind from the comfort of my own home. I can't wait until they come out with a virtual reality flight simulator.

Oh, cool, what tenth in line for takeoff. I guess I'll just take out this crossword puzzle in this virtual in-flight magazine. Oh, someone already filled it out with pen? What a virtual thu thu thu thu th. th. th. th, the th, the th, th, the th, th, thi, thi, the th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, th. Now, tho, tho, the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho, tho, th. Now, th. Now, th. Now, th. Now, th. Now, th. Now, th. Now, th. Now, th. Now, that, that, that, that, the the the that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that theat that that that that that that, that, the that, the take out this crossword puzzle in this virtual infight magazine. Oh, someone already filled it out with pen? What a virtual dick? Come on, science. This is virtual reality. We can go anywhere.

How about one way you can travel around the world? And I don't know, go deep sea diving. And your dad says he's proud of you. You know, the possibilities are endless. Wait, Ronnie, what did you say about your dad? Unfortunately, Trevor, the current options for virtual travel are a little underwhelming. Hotel Giant Marriott is getting in on the action using VR technology to showcase their properties. Let's take a trip to China. Wow, so I'm in a square.

Up, this dude's right in front of me talking. Looks like he's got some breadsticks right in front of me. There's a gentle wind blowing, and I know that from the flag above me. Ah, my tourist coming to an end. Yeah, great. I've always wanted to go to China and stand there for 10 seconds. Yeah, I saw the flag, I saw the sidewalk, I saw the great dude of China. I don't know, it's like I don't even have to go anymore. But you know what, Ronnie, it seemed pretty impressive to me.

It looked like you could reach out and touch that guy. Yeah, exactly. It's just some guy. That's not my dad. Why would your dad... But Trevor, it's not all fun in thua thua thua thua thua thua thua thu fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun it's not all fun and games. All right. There are also practical applications for virtual reality. Virtual reality has been tried before in football. It has never worked until now. There are limits in college on how much time players can spend on the field.

There are no limits to how much time they can spend alone with a virtual reality headset. We did it. We found another way to exploit college athletes. Yeah. It's great. Yeah. Now they can take a break from football practice with more football practice. Come on, these guys get enough football already.

They should be using virtual reality to experience something they'll never get to see, like a paycheck from the NCAA. Oh, Ronnie, I mean, it sounds like nothing's good enough for you, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, th. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, th, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to something they'll never get to see, like a paycheck from the NCAA. Oh, Ronnie, I mean, it sounds like nothing's good enough for you, man. Yeah, I know. Now I know how my dad feels, am I right? But actually, that's not completely true. There is one kind of virtual reality that I think we can all appreciate. I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with corn, and you can jerk off to it. Just when you thought the multi-billion dollar porn business couldn't get any bigger, enter virtual reality. You can head over to the gentleman's club and you can go on stage to give a pole dance.

If you get a lap dance, the girl is right on your lap and she's moving and gyrating. The experience is remarkably real. Yeah, finally! This is what virtual reality should be. Yeah, check out those geometric curves, so hard and angular. Ronnie, I don't understand. Why are you getting so excited about these graphics?

I mean, why not just watch real people have sex on video? Well, sure, that'd be great. And hopefully, we'll live to see the day where that technology is possible. But, you know what, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's that's that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. that's thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the. the. the. the. tho. thee. tho. thoee. tho-thea, tho-thea, tho-thea, that'd be great, and hopefully we'll live to see the day where that technology is possible. But, you know what, Trevor, I was so inspired by the potential of virtual reality that I went out and I made my own program, one that I think could even be more popular than porn. Check it out. I know I don't say this much, but I love you son. I'm so proud of you let's go stand in China together. I love you too dad I love you too! Thanks Ronnie Cheng everyone we'll be right back it's okay. Hey everybody John Stewart here I am here to tell you about my new podcast the weekly show coming out every Thursday.

We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? Listen to the Weekly Show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back. My guest tonight is a filmmaker and he has a new documentary for Netflix called Winter on Fire. Please welcome Yevgeny Afinevsky. All I wanted to do was get your name right.

That's what I was going for. And you did it. Yeah, I practiced. I practiced. Yvgeny Afinevsky. I like that. It's Russian? Yeah. So this is a confusing story for me. From the beginning. I mean, the documentary is easy to understand, but I want to know a bit about you and how you got th you th you th you th you th you th you th you the to to to to to the to to to the to to to to to to the the to to to the to to the to to to to to to to to to to be to be the the the the to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theanuuuanuanuanuanuanu.eanu.eanu.eanu.eanu.ean.ean.ean.ean.genean.ean.ean.ean.ean.ean.ean. Iu. Iu. I. Okay. So this is a confusing story for me. From the beginning, I mean, the documentary is easy to understand, but I want to know a bit about you and how you got into this. So, Russian born? Israel raised, American as of now. Living in LA? Yeah. How did you come to make

this film? I mean, this is a crazy story about a 93-day period, fighting, you know, the president of Ukraine who was oppressing everybody. But how did you get involved in that all the way from LA? You know what? One of my friends who was involved before in the movies, with me actually, we did the previous movies, he literally called me from Ukraine and said, hey, the history is happening. So come down, we need to document this. And you know what? Crazy as myself, took the camera and went to Ukraine. Yeah, that's a horrible friend. My friends call me for good times. I don't know about friends that are like, hey, come over, let's almost get shot in a revolution

that's taking place. Nobody was expecting actually to be shot there because when I went there, it was a peaceful demonstration and it was a peaceful protest of youth and you know what, it was an amazing festival of people who wanted to be heard, who wanted to be heard by the government and nobody was expecting to be killed, nobody was expected to be beaten at 4 o'clock in the morning. So the events started to unfold spontaneously. This was such an insane story. I mean, the president of Ukraine basically decides, he says to everybody, I'm going to join with the EU.

Everyone's really happy about this. And then behind the nation's back makes a deal with Putin, who's a great guy. And people aren't happy about this. And they start off the protest. And you are there for this whole process. What was the feeling like when you're standing in this crowd? Because you were there for this. Yeah, and it was interesting. It was an extraordinary experience because you just showed a clip about 12-year-old kid that we literally can watch how he was maturing through these 93 days.

And every character who was there was fascinating. For example, this kid, he's 12-year-old, he ran from his home and been there from the beginning till the the the character the character the character was was was was the protesters the protesters the protesters the protesters the protesters the protesters the protesters the protesters the protesters the protesters the protesters the protesters was the protesters the protesters was the protesters was the protesters was their their their their their their their their their their and been there from the beginning till the end, till they won, till the protesters won and achieved their goals. One of the things that really fascinated me was the fact that all through the protests, the protest has always said to the police, you are the people, help us in this fight. It was such a strange thing to hear them pleading to the police to ask them, you know, they didn't see them as a separate entity. They were saying, we are Ukrainian, you're

Ukrainian, why are you beating us? Was that like an overlying thing? I felt like, I don't know, I felt like that should apply everywhere in the world, strangely enough. You know what, I think what should apply from this movie is the unity because because because because because because because because because, because, because, because, because, the unity, the unity, the unity, the unity, the unity, the unity, the unity, the unity, the unity, the unity, the unity, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thr, theean, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the unity because the unity was fascinating. People from all generations, all ages, all social groups, from reach to poor students, people who accomplished a lot of things in the lives. Different faces all were together. This fascinating unity, I haven't seen a lot, and this fascinating unity helped them to win. And another thing I think should people take, it's that they are the people and they are the people and they are the real power.

They are the people. And the youth of the people, I mean, this isn't a Disney film, but there were a few moments where I laughed in it. I won't lie. One of those was when the youths said we now have a purpose. They're like, we're not just sitting around basically. Is that what we need in the world for youths everywhere to get involved in politics as revolutions? Is that what everyone's waiting for? I don't think that we need revolutions, but you know what was fascinating actually, you said that you were kind of looking at this and it was also human.

And the human side of them, we had a concert every night, you probably saw how the girl was playing piano between the protesters and the police. So it was amazing the the the the the the the the the the the police. So it was amazing to see this human spirit. And even when the government basically made the new laws prohibiting them to wear the gear, prohibited them to wear all these gear. Yeah, stopping the, they made it illegal to protest. Correct. So what they did, they wear masks, they basically put the cooking parts,

which is a brave fashion choice. I noticed some people were like I'm going to their their their the their heads. Which is a great fashion choice. I noticed some people were like, I'm gonna wear cooking pots and go up against the police. It was an insane situation. You were in it though, that's what fascinates me. You were there. And you were filming the police. If you try film the police in most countries, they come to the person who's filming, stop and say, what are you filming? You know what, A, it's not only me, it's amazing 28 filmmakers who were around me, local

filmmakers who each of them wanted to contribute their stories when they heard that I'm doing this movie, they all came to me and said, hey, here is my story. I want to share it with the entire world. So it's amazing, professionals and non-professionals who were there. Same time I was having a badge of the local press, so it kind of was protecting. But again, nobody was protected from the bullets, nobody was protected from the freezing the weather, nobody was protecting, protected. Sorry for my language. No, no, no, no, no, no, I apologize.

But nobody was protected. I love that you say that. That's a thing, a valid lesson to learn. Badges will not protect you from bullets.. No, no, no, no, no, no, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tha, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, but, but, no, no, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, I. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, ta.a.a.a. ta.a. ta.a.a. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, nobody was protected. Even Red Cross not protected. No badges. No badges. Thank you so much for coming through. It's a beautiful, beautiful film. Winter on Fire will premiere this Friday on Netflix. You really, really should see this. And we'll also open the theatically in New York and LA. Yvgeny Afinezki everybody.

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