The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Between The Scenes - Trevor Responds to Criticism from the French Ambassador

Episode Date: July 21, 2018

Trevor responds to a letter from French ambassador Gérard Araud criticizing him for congratulating Africa on France’s World Cup victory. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Rianan. And I'm Peter. Our podcast, five to four is about all of this. Every week we dissect and analyze a different ruling that has made our country a little worse, a little more cruel. And you would not believe how many of them there are. Check out five to four. That's the number five, dash the number four, wherever you listen to podcast. I, um, I want to share this little story with you. I, um, I got into a little bit of trouble with the French, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is, is about, is about, is about, is a, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, little bit of trouble with the French government

I know the French government so what what happened was let's start at the beginning France won the World Cup and so and so on the show I we celebrated that and I had this joke where I said, I said Africa won the World Cup. Yeah. And I was shocked at how angry a lot of French people got. Like genuine, a lot of French people were angry and they were like, oh Trevor, how can you say this? Why would you say these things? You know, this is horrible. And I was like, okay, I get it, like, the thirty. And I was like, th, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. thi, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, thi. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said angry and they were like, oh Trevor, how can you say this? Why do you say these things? This is horrible.

And I was like, okay, I get it. Not everyone likes every joke that you tell, and I get that. But this was interesting. I got a letter from the ambassador, the ambassador of France. And I'll read it that joke. And he says, I'll try to read it how I hope he wrote it. Which was, he says, sir, I watched with great attention your July 17th show when you spoke of the victory of the French team at the 2018 FIFA World Cup, Russia. Final which took place last Sunday. I heard your words about an African victory.

Nothing could be less true. Now, first of all, I think it could have been the their their their the the thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it was thi, thi, thi, it was a thi, thi, thi, thi, it was a thi, thi, it was a the, it was a to be to be to be to be to, to, to, to, to, to, told, told, told, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.. theateateate. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too, too, true. Now, first of all, I think it could have been less... I could have said they were Scandinavian. That would have been less true. That would have been less true. As many of the players have already stated themselves, their parents may have come from another country, but a great majority of them, all but two out of 23 were born in France.

They were educated in France. They were educated in France. They learn to play soccer in France. They are French citizens. They are proud of their country. France. The rich and various backgrounds of these players is a reflection of France's diversity. France is indeed. Now that line there was interesting. The rich and various backgrounds of these players is a reflection of France's diversity.

Now I'm not trying to be an asshole but I think it's more reflection of France's colonialism. Because it's not like it's just like random play like they all have something in common like all of those players if you trace their lineage you like how did you guys become French like how did your family start speaking French oh okay okay all right. I say here um he says their lineage, you're like, how did you guys become French? Like, how did your family start speaking French? Oh, okay. All right. I'm going to say here, he says,

France is indeed a cosmopolitan country, but every citizen is part of the French identity. And together, they belong to the nation of France. Unlike in the United States of America, France does not refer to its citizens based on their race, religion or origin. To us, there is no hyphenated identity. Roots are an individual reality. By calling them an African team, it seems you are denying their French. This even in just legitimizes the ideology which claims whiteness as the only definition

of being French. So now, here's the thing. First things first. I understand what he's saying, because I read up on this afterwards, right? I take criticism. I'll listen to what somebody says to me. You know, I genuinely believe you should. And what it turns out is, in France, a lot of like Nazis in that country use the fact that these players of African

descent to shit on their Frenchness, you know, so they go you're not French. You're from Africa, go back to where you came from, you're not French. They use that as, you know, as a line of attack. Now, my thing is, my opinion is, coming from South Africa, coming from Africa and even watching the World Cup in the United States of America, black people all over the world were celebrating the Africanness of the French players, right? Not in a negative way but rather in a positive way going, look at these Africans who can become French. You know what I mean? It's a celebration of that achievement.

And so this is what I find I find weird in these arguments is that people go they're not African, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're not they're not they're they're not they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thiiiiiiiiiii thiii. thiiii thi. thi. thi. thi. thi of that achievement. And so this is what I find weird in these arguments is that people go, they're not African, they're French. Then I'm like, why can't they be both? Right? Right? Right? Right? Why is that duality only afforded to a select group of people?

Why can they not be African? So what what they're arguing here is in order to be French you have to erase everything that is African? Because what do they mean when they say that our culture, our this, our this, like so you cannot be French and African at the same time, which which I vehemently disagree with. You've seen those players I love them. Pogba, and goolooloolooloolooloolooloolooloolooloolo. I I their their, I've their, their, th, th, th, th, thoal. thoal. thoal. th, tho, tho, th, tho, tho, tho, they, they, they, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, what they're, what they're, what they're, what they're, what they, what they, what they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, what their, what they're their, what they're their, what they're they're they're they're their, what they're they're they players, I love them. Paul Pogba, Golo Cantier, I've watched all of them, like, I love those players and I love how African they are and how French they are. I don't take their Frenchness away,

but I also don't think you need to take their Africanness, you know, and that is what I love, still celebrate their identity in their Americanness. You can go to a St. Patrick's Day parade in America, celebrating that you are Irish. You can go to a Puerto Rican day parade in America, still celebrating the fact that you're Puerto Rican and American at the same time. You can celebrate Juneteen's as a black person and be like, yo, I'm African-American, which is the duality of the two worlds, but here they're going no you are only French And here's why it vexes me to be honest

This is what I find interesting is like when I read stories from Africa and when I watch what politicians say Especially in France about African migrants When they are unemployed when they are unemployed when they may commit a crime or when they are considered unsavory? It's the African migrants. It's the African-Afric, it's the African-wi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their unemployed, when they may commit a crime, or when they are considered unsavory, it's the African immigrants. When their children go on to provide a World Cup victory for France, we should only refer to them as France. And we even saw it with that African man who climbed the building to rescue the baby. Do you remember that? We watched him climb that building. He rescued the child and then they gave him French citizenship.

They said, you are now French. So now I'm going, so is he now no longer African? Is that what you're saying? So when he was on the ground, he was African. And then he climbed up, and as soon as he rescued the baby, now he's French. So if he dropped the baby, the African dropped the baby. Like, I don't believe that you need... And here's like I say, again with respect, I understand what the ambassador is saying, I'm not joining the attack, and I know, don't get me wrong,

I know. There's, like, you know, we live in a world where, like, nuance is something that is in short supply. And so you will find, you know, in America, for instance, the alt-rides, and that's what we've been saying. their, their, their, if Trevor says it it's not racist but if we say this race it's like yeah yeah I'll say yeah you know why because I believe context is everything there are certain things you can say to somebody that like when I say to my friends what's going on my nega and if a white person came and said the same thing yeah the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they's they's they's a they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're African. I'm not saying it as a way to exclude them from their Frenchness, but I'm rather using it to include them in my Africanness.

I'm saying, I see you my French brother of African descent. Do you know what I'm saying? That's what I'm trying to say? When somebody else says it the other way, you can use the same line in different ways. saying, oh so if you play with your naked child, that's a problem, but if would I do it, I'm a pedophile? Yeah, yeah. There's a big difference. There's a huge difference. So I will continue to praise them for being African because I believe that they are of Africa, their parents are from Africa and they can be French at the same time. And if French people are saying they cannot be both, then I think they have a problem and not me their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their difference their difference. their difference. their difference. their difference. their difference. their difference their difference their difference their difference their difference their difference their difference their difference their difference their difference their difference their difference their difference. their difference. their difference. their difference. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their problem. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their be French at the same time. And if French people are saying they cannot be both, then I think they have a problem and not me.

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