The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Biden Meets with Putin & Juneteenth Becomes a Holiday | Ashley C. Ford & Sam Jay

Episode Date: June 17, 2021

Trevor examines the history of racial discrimination against Black farmers, author Ashley C. Ford discusses "Somebody's Daughter," and comedian Sam Jay talks about "PAUSE with Sam Jay."Donate at dailyshow.com/TrevorProject to support The Trevor Project in providing suicide prevention, crisis intervention and education, research and advocacy programs for LGBTQ youth. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on Apple podcasts starting September 17th. Hey, what's going on, everybody? I'm Trevor Noah, and this is the daily social distancing show. Today is Wednesday, June 16th. And people, I'm just gonna put it out there, man. I'm devastated right now watching the news coming out of the NBA playoffs is so frustrating everybody is

injured. Kyrie Irving is out with a twisted ankle Kauai Leonard could be out for the season with a busted knee Chris Paul is out indefinitely for COVID protocols like what the hell is happening if the NBA loses any more stars, the playoffs are gonna be unwatchable. And I don't care what anyone says, stars matter, okay? Without them, it'll be like watching a Fast and the Furious movie starring the guy who does the oil change.

And yes, I know he's important, the cars can't drive without him, but I want to see Vin diesel bench press a tanker while using his foot to drive a car. So I think the NBA needs to do everything it can to prevent any more start from getting hurt. Please NBA do something. I don't care what it takes. Fosty them vitamins. Get a witch to cost. Get a witch to cost. Get a witch to cost. Get a witch. Hell. Just cover them on the court. I want to see the dunks. I want to see the shots. I want to see KD. You can't have the... Anyway, on tonight's show, President Biden and Vladimir Putin have the most emo summit ever. The capital rioters are finding another way into Congress and we'll find out the difference between black farms and white farms. And no, it's not just the seasoning. So, let's do this, people. Welcome to the daily th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to. to. to. to. to. th. th. to. to. te. te. te. toda. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. t seasoning. So, let's do this, people. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing

Show. From Trevor's couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor Noah. Ears Edition. All right, let's kick things off with Joe Biden. President of the United States and man whose bloodstream is 60% linked chip. All this week, Biden has been on a diplomacy tour of Europe, and today was his big summit meeting with Russian president and man strangling you with a wire right now, Vladimir Putin.

So, let's see how it all went down in another installment of Grandpa's Day Out. President Biden is in route back to the U.S. after his high-stakes summit today with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Both leaders agreed the tone of the meeting was positive. However, deep divisions remain. This is not a kumbaya moment, as he used to say back in the 60s in the United States, like let's hug and love each other. Let me tell you, in life there is there is there there there there there there there there there there there there there is there is there is there is there is the 60s in the United States like let's hug and love each other. Let me tell you in life there is no happiness. There is only the specter of happiness. God damn! What happened in there people? Did they hold a bilateral meeting and watch mayor of East Town?

Because Putin got dark, man. Although to be fair, I mean, Russians are a bleak people in general. In life, there is no happiness. That's basically how Russian soccer moms say, live, laugh, love. But, there was some substance that came out of this summit. For instance, Biden says that he told Putin that certain critical infrastructure should be off limits to cyber attacks, and he even gave Putin a list of 16 specific things limits to cyber attacks. And he even gave Putin a list of 16 specific things not to attack. And look I get the idea of giving your enemies a red line that you warn them to never cross, but you gotta admit it's gonna be a bad look when they go after

the places that didn't make the cut. Now before everyone gets mad about what happened to St. Louis, I gave Putin a free pass on that so, that's kind of on me. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but in their, but in their, but in their, but in their, but in their, but in their, but in their, but in their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. thi. thi, thi, their, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thin, thi. thin, thi. the. thin, the. thin, the. thin, thi. the. thi. the. the. the. th what happened to St. Louis, I gave Putin a free pass on that, so that's kind of on me. But in my defense, they were number 17. They were number 17, everybody. Moving on. Let's violate Florida law and talk about slavery. As many people now know, slavery in the US officially ended when the South surrendered at the end of the Civil War. But many enslaved people didn't find out for two more months.

And now the celebration of that day, Juneteenth, is close to officially joining Memorial Day, Thanksgiving and Casual Friday in the American Holiday Pantheon. Well, a major move in the Senate yesterday unanimously passing a bill to establish Junete as a federal holiday. The bill designates June 19th, 2021 as Juneteenth Independence Day. This is in recognition of June 19, 1865, the date in which news of the end of slavery

reach slaves in southwestern states. Wow, that's almost unbelievable. The Senate just voted for Juneteenth to be a national holiday by a huge bipartisan margin. And this, my friends, is why I love America's government. It has all these old Republicans who are like, we've got to stop talking about slavery. Quit talking so much about it all the time. But I'll take some time off for slavery. Hell yeah. But no, seriously, I know some people are surprised that the GOP was on board for this, but of course Republican senators support Juneteen's. They love to celebrate

the end of slavery. To them, that's the happy ending in the story of racism. But whatever the motivation, this is a nice moment for America. And yes, I've heard people point out that America seems much more willing to offer symbolic gestures instead of actual solutions, like reforming the police, or ending discrimination in the workplace. But I don't think symbolism is nothing, you know. Symbols are a big part of America and they can have real-world effects. You know, the same way that celebrating Martin Luther King Day raises awareness of his legacy and his cause. Well, how President's Day reminds Americans that they forgot to vote for President back in November.

You better believe, because it's a holiday, some frat boys are going to be celebrating Junteenth in a completely different way. Yo, happy Juneteeth, bro! You ready? Chuk, Chuk, Chuk, Chuk. Chuk. Chuk. Chuk. Chuk. Chuk. Chuk. Chuk. Nobody knows. Trunk. Chuk. Chuk. So, yeah, maybe in some ways, it would have been better if Juneteenth had stayed one of those things that only black people know about. You know, like Carmichael Cross-trainers or DJ Amaretto or whiskey cups. Don't worry, black people. I was just making a bunch of those things up to throw white people off the trail. You guys go celebrate Juneteenth while they're figuring this all out.

Go now. Go now. Yeah, those whiskey cups. And finally, some political news. Five months ago, you may remember that protesters stormed the U.S. Capitol, hoping to overturn the election and pass a law that there should also be a show called whitish. And now, one of the rioters is planning to return to the scene of the crime. A New Hampshire man facing charges for his part in the January 6th ride at the Capitol is now hoping to go back to Washington as an elected official. You might remember Riddle after seeing this photo. He's the man from Keen, New Hampshire who admitted to entering the Capitol building

on January 6th and chugging from a bottle of wine he found in a lawmaker's office. What does being at the riots do for your campaign? Tells him I show up. I'm gonna actually keep my promises and make some changes. He says he's running against Democrat Annie Custer in the 2022 midterm elections. Custer is currently in her fifth term as a US Congresswoman representing New Hampshire's second district. I thought Ann was a state representative. No. So a state rep is in the... I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I the the the the the th. I show th. I show th. I show th. I show th. I'm th. I show thu, I show tho, I'm th. I show, I show I show, I show, I show I show, I show, I show I show, I show I show I show, I show I show, I show I show I show I show I show, I show I show, I show, I show, I show, I show I show, I show, I show, I show, I show I show, I show, I show I show I show, I show I show I show, I show I show I show I show I show I show I show, I show I show, I show, I show, I show, I show, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi. to tel. to to to th. tel. to to thi. to thi, I'm thi, I'm thwoman representing New Hampshire's second district. I thought Ann was a state representative. No. So a state rep is in the in the state house in Concord. Yeah that's what Anne is. No, no, no. She's in Washington. Oh, well I guess I got to run against that then. So Washington it is. Oh boy, there goes the media again. Always with the gotcha questions. What are you running for? What states is that? that? that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that in that is that is that in that is that in that in that in that is that in that in the state is the state is the state is that in the state? No? No? No? No? No? No. the state is the state is the state is the state. the state. No? No. the state. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. the state. that is that is that is that is that is that that is that that the state. that the state. the state. the state. the state. the state. the state. the state. the the state is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the state is. the state is the state is. the state is. the state is. the media again, always with the gotcha questions.

What are you running for? What state is that in? How many fingers am I holding up? Yeah, guys, I know it's shocking, but it turns out, a guy who thought he could overturn the election by breaking into the capital and chugging wine doesn't have a super solid grasp of the political process. I mean, think about this dude is going to run for Congress. He's a dangerous extremist who's completely unqualified and unprepared.

So yeah, he'll fit right in. But that's not the point. Like, what's his first day even going to be like? It's going to show up at the office, smash his way in the window? Pss, I'm back! Honestly, though, there is a small part of me that hopes this guy does get elected, because that means when the next insurrection happens, he'll see what it's like to be on the other side. Oh, I appreciate the irony now.

But let's move on now to our top story. The 1.9 trillion-T that Joe Biden signed into law earlier this year had money for everything, from COVID vaccines to stimulus checks to a year's subscription to Biden's only fans. And it also gave $4 billion in loan forgiveness to black farmers, which it turns out, not everyone is happy about. Joe Biden sent billions of dollars to African-American farmers in this country purely because of how they look.

Now, that's illegal. It's immoral. It's completely divisive. It's not a bill for black farmers. It's a bill against white farmers. I don't think they understand her business one bit. Nobody asks you what race you are when you price fertilizer. White farmers need not apply by virtue of the color of their skin. The Democratic Party is becoming the party of reverse racism. Farmers are being

denied, aid solely because of their skin color. In this country you do not punish people because they look a certain way because their ancestors come from a certain place. Because of the government has the power to destroy a business, because of how someone looks? What's next? Put someone in jail because of how they look? I mean, what if they make it illegal to look like a testicle that just escaped the scrotum?

Just as an example. But it isn't just Fox News gargoyles, upset about this aid to black farmers. Last week a federal judge blocked the aid from going into effect while a lawsuit from white farmers proceeds through the court system. And you might be hearing this story for the first time and wondering, wait, why should black farmers get special treatment? Are there cows the ones that make chocolate milk? Well, yes, but that's not why. The real reason is something we're gonna explore in another edition of,

if you don't know, now you know. their toe. When you picture a farmer in your head, what do you see? Close your eyes and think about it. Oh yeah. Probably a guy in overralls standing next to a tractor, chewing on a piece of hay or vaping it if he's trying to quit. And let's be honest, oh, you can open your eyes now. Let's be honest, that farmer in your head is also probably a white guy. But you may be surprised to learn that there was a time in America when farming was as popular among black people as Telfer bags. By force and by choice.

Black people have long, deep connections to American farmland. After the fall of slavery, owning a piece of land that could be worked and farmed, symbolized freedom. During reconstruction, black folks saved their money, they worked together as a family, as a cooperative, and they bought land that allowed black families to build communities up to 16 million acres. At the peak of black farm ownership around 1920, maybe about 15% of farmers were African-American. In a place where you could not vote, one way that black folks were able to exert power was having some control over the land under their feet. That's right. Back in the day, 15% of all American farmers were black. And that's the kind of representation the Golden Globes can only dream of.

And yes, it is true that there weren't a lot of other professions in the 1920s. You know, back then it was basically just farming, telegraph operator, and crash-landing airplanes. But it makes sense that farming would be especially appealing to black people. Because owning anything was incredible for black people back then. Because don't forget, just a generation before that, black people were considered property. Property. I mean, imagine if your granddad was a TV and now you own a whole TV company. That's success! So if there were so many black farmers back in the day, what happened to them all?

Did somebody finally tell them about sports? No, it turns out it was America's age-old friend, systemic racism. White folks recognized pretty early on that one way to stop the civil rights movement, one way to undercut it was to get rid of land ownership. Over the last century, America's black farmers have lost more than 90% of their land because of systemic discrimination and a cycle of debt. The U.S. Department of Agriculture has a long history of discrimination. A study commissioned by the USDA found that loans to black male farmers were 25% lower

than those given to white male farmers on average. For decades, the U.S. Department of Agriculture systematically favored white farmers by denying loans to black farmers, and discrimination was widespread at its local branches, which were largely run by all white county committees. Many black farmers were coming to the office and the local official would say, we don't have any money available. And when white farmers came in, they would process their loans, thirty days. And for their f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white white, white, white, white, white, their, white, their, their, white, white, their, their white, their white, the white fa, the white fa, systematically, systematically, systematically, systematically, their, systematically, systematically, systematically, systematically, systematically, systematically, systematically, systematically, systematically, s-fi-fa, systematically, s-fa, s-fa, systematically, s-fa, s favored, s favored, s favored, s favored, s favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor favor, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi-fato the office and the local official would say, we don't have any money available. And when white farmers came in, they would process their alarms less than 30 days, and for black farmers, it took 387 days on average.

We fill out the papers, and then they would just take the paperwork and just know it in the track. Without the same access to funds, black farmers struggle to keep up with their white competitors and are often forced out of business. We're talking 177 to $230 billion that black farmers have lost because of active discrimination. That's right, for decades the USDA actively discriminated against black farmers, giving them smaller loans than white farmers or outright refusing to give them loans altogether. And that's according to the USDA. So, I mean, that's like digging up your own tweets and cancelling yourself. Yeah, go away, me.

But that's how bad this discrimination was. And farming is hard enough on its own. I mean, think about you got pests, you've got drought. You got ghosts, trying to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to build to get to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to get to build to build to build to build to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get torying to get you to build a baseball field. The last thing you need is for the federal government to be up against you. And after decades of discrimination, black farmers had had enough. And so they took their complaints right to the top. Black farmers first picketed the Department of Agriculture in 1996. About 50 showed up with a pair of mules and a wagon. To protest racial discrimination, thousands had sent in complaints, but they found the

Civil Rights Office at the USDA had been closed for years, and boxes of their letters remained unopened. In 1999, thousands of black farmers settled a historic class action discrimination lawsuit against the USDA in a landmark case called Pigford versus Glickman. The government agreed to pay out more than $1 billion with thousands of black farmers receiving up to $50,000 each. The vast majority never received a dime from the federal government. An overwhelming number of farmers were dubbed late filers by USDA, when their applications

trickled into office inboxes after a 180-day deadline. Tens of thousands of black farmers claim they did not receive th th thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoed thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes the the the their their toed thoes tooes tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes their their toe. their applications trickled into office inboxes after a 180-day deadline. Tens of thousands of black farmers claim they did not receive proper notification of the settlement. For so many of them, it's been red tape and setbacks ever since. Eleven years of splitting time between the fields and Capitol Hill, staging protests, even writing tractors through downtown Dthrough downtown DC to get attention from Congress. Okay, now this? This is how you protest. Riding tractors and mules into downtown D.C. Not only are you bringing attention to your cause, but writing a mule is the one time a cop can't pull you over for a busted tail light.

And they had to take some extreme measures. Because if anyone knows bullshit, it's farmers. And this was definitely some bullshit. I mean, the government basically admitted that it owed the farmer's money, but then bogged them down in red tape. Let me tell you something, man, if you lose a lawsuit, the hearing should end with the bailiff marching you to the ATM to watch you withdraw that money. Oh, who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who whooops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whooops, who who whoo, whooops, whooops, to the the the bailiff marching you to the ATM to watch you withdraw that money. Oh, whoopsy! Looks like I forgot my pin.

Oh well, it's your birthday backwards, man. Just do it. Now, the government tried to fix things in 2011 by providing some more funding to black farmers. But unfortunately, it came too late for many of them, and it still fell far short of the economic losses that they had suffered at the hands the hands the hands the hands the hands the the hands the the the the the the for many of them and it still fell far short of the economic losses that they had suffered at the hands of the USDA. So the next time you hear people talking about how black farmers are getting extra special

treatment from the government, think about the treatment that they've been getting for the last 100 years. And you know some of the people people who are upset about this loan forgiveness they might not even know that all this discrimination even happened, which I understand. And that's why we've decided to update the most famous song about farmers to better express the black farming experience. Old Black Donald had a farm, couldn't get a loan. Now the only farm he's got is on his mobile phone.

Because erases him here and erases him there. Here are racist, there a racist, everywhere erasist, racist. Old Black Donald had a farm. Now he works at coals. I'm on my break! All right, when we come back, I'll be talking to best-selling author and one of Oprah's favorites, Ashley C. Ford. Don't go away. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

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Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. My first guest tonight is New York Times best-selling author Ashley C. Ford. She's here to talk about her new memoir about her childhood and the trauma of growing up with an incarcerated parent. Ashley C. Ford, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Thank you so much for having me. It's my pleasure. You are so many people's favorite writer. Some people know you from Twitter, but now many more people know you from your book that is a New York Times bestseller,

somebody's daughter. And it's not just a New York Times bestseller, but it's a New York Times bestseller that has a really prominent fan by the name of Oprah Winfrey. What is more impressive? Being published and being a New York Times bestseller or having Oprah as a fan of the book? Ooh, ooh you trying to get me in trouble. Honestly, let's talk about just personally, okay? I knew who Oprah was before I knew what the New York Times was. Okay, and so got to say in my heart it means a lot that Oprah's on board.

I can imagine. Yeah, I mean, I understand why everybody is on board. You have the story where you share your journey as a young girl growing up in a black family where your father was incarcerated for 30 years when you were still a baby at the age of one. And so you live your entire life without this man in the family, not even truly understanding how much the family suffers from this. You have a mother who is giving up everything to raise you and your family. And at the same time, you talk about how she was verbally abusive and what your relationship was like with her. How hard was it for you, and why did you think it was necessary to explain to the reader how

tough her life was, what her experiences were, but then still be in a position to say, oh, but she didn't, you know, give me what I needed all the time as a child in an emotional sense. You know, when I set out to write this book, one of the things that was really important to me was that nobody was truly a truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly truly a truly a the truly me was that nobody was truly a hero or a villain in the course of the book because I wanted to write something that was true and something that was real and the truth of the matter is, you know, super humans and super heroes are called super for a reason,

and it's because they're separated from their humanity. And we are not. We're human beings 24-7 all the time every day, which means our capacity for human good and human evil is always, always, always on the same spectrum. Nobody gets out of that. Nobody gets away from that. And I think that it's time, especially in communities like the community that I come from, where I was raised, that we can share complicated stories about our lives and about each other and understand that it's not stripping us of our power or our agency or our humanity to do so, it is affirming it, it's validating it,

because the more we pretend that all good people have never done a bad thing, and all bad people have never done a good thing, the more we are sewing a division within ourselves that is unsustainable. One of the more heart-wrenching examples of that in the stories is of your father's journey in your life. Your father was incarcerated for committing rape and he was guilty of it and you had this really complicated relationship with him because here's this man who's your father, who's not just done something heinous but also abandoned your family because of his actions,

and yet you talk about your journey of having to learn how to forgive him and I mean how do you even begin to forgive somebody like that especially when you haven't known them your entire life? You decide what you can forgive them for and what forgiveness means to you. I knew that I could not forgive my father for what he did to someone else. That's not my place, that's not my goal, that's not my intent, it can't be done in reality. But I knew that I could forgive him for how his actions had affected my life, and the life of the people I know,

and how that indirectly affected me and affects us all now. And you know my definition of forgiveness is pretty purely giving up on the idea that things could have been different, knowing that things are what they are, accepting reality. And I accept the reality of who my father is and what he's done. I accept the complexity of his humanity and I had to do that to be perfectly honest so that I could accept mine. Like it's all in a circle, all the ways that I could have or you know in some people's minds should have punished him for his actions would have been punishing me too. And I don't deserve that. I'm worthy of more than that. A lot of us have been punishing me too.

And I don't deserve that. I'm worthy of more than that. A lot of us have been taught to be ashamed of the things that we've experienced in life that have happened within our families. And so we create a facade, and everyone's having a facade, and then every time a moment or a reality becomes exposed, we then shame the person or that person is ashamed when in fact many people are experiencing similar things. How did that heal you and how do you think we can begin to heal as a society

by addressing these things more openly? Well, you know, the first thing that I would say really quickly is that shame thrives when it's alone. That's why people attempt to isolate you in your shame. That's why they try to bring to bring to bring to bring to bring to bring to bring to bring to bring to bring to bring to bring to bring to bring to bring to bring to to to to to the the their try to bring a group and say none of us believe you, or all of us believe this around you, or all of us have decided that you are no longer part of whatever, so that they can stand together and make you feel alone. You are not alone.

You're never alone, because there are no emotions or experiences that you get as a human being that no other human being in the world has access to, except for the experience of your consciousness in your mind. But everything else you've been through, everything else you feel, that human, emotional spectrum, we all have it. We all get it. There's nothing wrong with you for having feelings about something that happened to you. And secondly, the thing I would say is that none of us, absolutely none of us are going to be okay

until we can talk about what hurts. So the sooner we start having those conversations, the better, because we only get so much time, and I want us to be able to spend it well together knowing that we're not alone. Well I'll tell you this anyone who reads the book who has lived a life will relate to your life in some way shape or form. Ashley C. Ford thank you so much for joining me on the show and hopefully I'll see you again with the next book that talks about the post therapy and the joy that you now the joy the joy you you the joy you the joy th joy you you th joy th th th tho th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho to tho to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho tho tho tho tho tho thoy and the joy that you now experience in your world. I'm working on it. Thank you. Mr. Chepher.

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Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 minutesutes a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. My next guest is the Emmy-nominated writer

and comedian Sam Jay. She's here to talk about her brand-new HBO series, Pause. Sam Jay, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Hey, man, what's up? It's really an honor to have you here because there are many comedians who I appreciate as being funny, but there are a few comedians who I envy when I watch their stuff. And it's always comedians where I go like, I could have never thought of that.

I could have never done that. Where do you even get that idea? You've always been one of those comedians. I mean, it's probably the reason Netflix said we want you to make a special, it's probably one of the reasons S&L said we want you to come on the show and write, and it's probably one of the reasons that HBO Max said, we want you to make a show unlike any other, which is exactly what you did. Pause with Sam Jay. First of all, let's start with the title. Pause. the tie. thi. th th. th th th. th th th th th th th th. th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that. that. that. that. that. that's that's that's thooes. thi. the that's that's thoes. the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. And their. And their. And, their. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, that. And, thr. And, thr-I. And, thr-I. And, toguuu. And, toda. And, toda. And, th. And, thr-s. And, thr-a. And, their, their, their. And like the antithes of what you want a show to be about because it seems like it has so much thrust. So why pause with Sam Jay? Oh, well, I thought about it. And when we were kind of coming up with names, we were throwing a bunch of stuff at a wall, and pause just seemed to be two things. I thought it was a funny little double entendre on how it's kind of used to say, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, to, tha, tha, to, tha, tha, thi, to, to, to say like chill out on gay stuff and especially the black community and I thought that was like a little cheeky way to play with that and then the other

side of it was I feel like that's what the show is asking people to do I think it's asking people to take a beat and hear another perspective and take a beat and consider another angle than just your own and so I feel like thu that way. What's also cool about the show is that it genuinely feels like you, it just feels like your hangout. I mean, you've got, you've got people drinking, you've got music playing in the background, you know, you've got clouds of smoke everywhere, you know, people are speaking freely doing it. It almost feels like you trick HBO into paying for you to throw parties with your friends. That's what it th th th th th th th th th th tho tho th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho to to that, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo to to to to throw parties with your friends. That's what it really feels like. A little bit. It's a little bit of that. I know we were coming up with it, we were like, yeah,

this is like gonna hang is good, but we have to like put some substantial things into it. Or it will feel like we just trick the H-onifenged us to hang out. And so it is a little bit of that that though, but, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I I thi, I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. to, thi. toooooooooooooooooo.. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that though, but I do think that hangs are where you get honesty. You know what I mean? I feel like whenever I'm kicking it, I'm not getting these like pre-packaged Twitter answers or you've even, you know, pre-staged ideas of what the world is. I think when you're kicking it and you're just hanging, people are not afraid to say something they're not necessarily supposed to say because everybody's guards down. But I think something that the show does well is it truly is a

hang with my friends. Everybody who comes to the house and somebody I know is not just people were picking like out of the sky. And I think it sets up a level of like comfortability, you know, and I've always kind of just been a person that's open to other people's ideas and opinions. And so I think it's easy for people to get into the flow of the party and just have a good time. And because there is no ill intent in the show, there is no gotcha moment, even in the interviews that are separate from the party. I think people are more willing to just be honest because everyone's kind of being honest. So it's not like any particular person's being called out.

Yeah, it's funny you say that because I remember watching the first episode and I was like, okay, either Sam and these people are amazing actors or this is actually like a slice of her life. Even the way you speak, it doesn't seem like it's scripted in any way. It seems like there's a structure, but N-word and that's just how you speak. And I remember talking to a friend of mine who's an older comedian, older black man. And I was like, have you seen the show? He's like, man, he's like, I love that show, man, he's like, I love that show man.

He's like, but boy, she I did think about it. Of course, I knew there was going to be some criticism behind it and I had to consider like, do I want to try to change my speech for the show? And I actually made a really strong decision not to do that, because I felt like, one, I speak, like, how the people that I came up with, the people from my neighborhood that I grew up with, my friends, thi, and I th, th, th, thin thin thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I didn't thin, and I didn't thin, and I didn't to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to speak, to to speak, to speak, to speak, to speak, to speak, to speak, to speak, to speak, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, thrushe, the, the, the, thean, thean, thean, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me to me to me up with, my friends, we all speak this way, and I didn't want to act like we did. And I also didn't want to present something to the world that said, if someone speaks this way, then they're not intelligent or you shouldn't listen to their opinion or or take in consideration what they're saying, you know what I mean? And I also didn't want to put on a different suit and have my friends and people I come up feel like, yo, in order to make it, I can't be me. I got to be some other version of myself. You know what I mean?

But I also do, like, I get the criticism and especially when I get it from older black people. I truly do understand it and I respect it. And I was really thinking like, how can I kind of fix this? because I didn't want to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the thu thu thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thin, thin, thin, thin, like, like, like, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.. thin, thin, thin, the, the, the, the, the., the. the. to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, the, the, their, this because I didn't want to just come off as someone was just disrespectful you know and so I decided that the last episode we're going to count up all the in words and I'm going to give $50. I'm going to give $50 to a charity at LGBTQ charity for black people. Well I feel like I mean that's the ultimate solution to any or you go like someone goes like I use the end solution to any, or did you go, like, someone goes like, I use the N-word, like, well, every time I use it, I will be donating charity, and now it's just like, yeah, well, now people almost cheering for you. Like, I'm going to be sitting at home like, yes, another one, come on, Sam, another

one, do it. Yeah, it's an in-word-a-tho-a-tatho'-in, th-in, th-in, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th-s. And, th-s. It, th-s. th-s. th. th. th. th. th. th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-a, th. Now, th, th, th. Now, th, th, th. Now, th, th, th. Now, th, th, th. Now, th, th, th. Now, th, th. Now, th. Now, th, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th-s, like, th-s, like, th-s, th-s, th-s, like, th-s, like, like, tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha, tha, th. Now, th. Now, th. Now, think maybe that's what I love about your show, is that you yourself have had to break out of the one label that people want to give you. They just go like, oh you are a black woman, so that means you have to be this, and they go like, oh no, you are lesbian, so you have to be this, and e-cetera. And to be honestthe final episode because I want to see how much money gets donated. I want to count up all the N-words.

And thank you so much. I hope we see season 2, season 3, season 4, and it just keeps on going, and hopefully I see you again on the show. Man, thank you so much for having me. This is really cool. I appreciate, Sam, take. streaming on HBO Max and new episodes air Fridays on HBO. All right, we're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back.

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