The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Biden's Vaccination Mandate & Republican Backlash | Anthony Fauci

Episode Date: September 14, 2021

President Biden rolls out a major vaccination mandate, Roy Wood Jr. worries about the rise of the Mu COVID-19 variant, and Dr. Anthony Fauci talks vaccine disinformation. Learn more about your ad-cho...ices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News, listen to 60 Minutes a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17th. My New York neighbors, I've got some great news.
Starting point is 00:00:37 It turns out I can tape the show from a studio again. Yeah, which means I won't be taping from the apartment and unfortunately we won't be as close but I just want you guys to know that I'm gonna miss you. How about you miss shutting the fucking up? Huh. We love you too, asshole. Coming to you from the heart of Times Square, the most important place on earth. It's The Daily Show, Ears Edition. Coming out, Biden lays down the law, COVID's next move, and Dr. Anthony Fauci.
Starting point is 00:01:16 This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Hey, what's going on everybody? I'm Trevor Noah and this is the Daily Show. I mean, I know it looks different than when we left, you know, because we have a brand new studio here in Times Square. You see, I actually would have kept doing the show from my apartment, but then I started to have problems with the Wi-Fi, and I decided that building an entirely new studio was easier than calling Spectrum. So, here we are, you know? It is a little. It is. It is. It is a, it. It is a, it is a, it is a, it is a, it is a th is a th is a th is a th is a th is a little. It is a little. It is a little. It is a little. It is a little. It is a th is a th is a thi. It is a thi, it is a thi. It is a thi. It is a the the the the the the daily. It is a the daily. It is a the daily. It is a the daily. It is a the the the the the the the the the th. It is a th. It is a th. It is a th. It is a th. It is a th. It is a th. It is a th. It is a th. It is a thi. It is a thi. It is a thi. It's a thi. It is a little thi. It is a little thi. It is a little thi. It is a thi. It is a thi. It is a thi. It is a studio was easier than calling Spectrum. So here we are, you know. It is a little different, you know, and people are still like wearing masks and trying to stay safe and you know so it's not socially distant it's just sort of, you
Starting point is 00:01:56 know, distant I guess. It's like the daily sort of distancing. Anyway, today is Monday, September 13th. And Saturday, as you know, was September 11th, the 20th anniversary of the 2001 attack on the United States. And I know it was a somber occasion, but personally, I found it uplifting as well. It's actually inspiring to remember how things can be when people all come together with a single purpose to help each other. And also, it's just interesting to look back 20 years and see how much things have changed.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I mean, for example, 20 years ago, Rudy Giuliani was America's mayor, projecting calm and sobriety when the country needed it most. But at Saturday's commemoration, Giuliani was not that. I don't want to sound like a name dropper, but I told this to the Queen of England. She said, you did you, you did a wonderful job on September 11th and therefore I'm making you an honorary knight, commander of the Royal Something rather. I turned down a knighthood because if you took a knighthood you had to lose your citizenship. I know Prince Andrew is very questionable now. I never went out with
Starting point is 00:03:15 him. Never had a drink with him. Never was with a woman or a young girl with him. Ever. One time I met him in my office and one time when we had the party, right, Bernie? You were there? You weren't there? Oh shit. Oh man. Oh man. Oh, only Rudy can spend a 9-11 anniversary talking about the time he hung out with Jeffrey Epstein's
Starting point is 00:03:46 alleged pedophile friend. You know your speech went off the rails when people watching it are like, I wish this guy would talk more about 9-11. What is he doing? I mean, my favorite part of this whole thing is how Rudy Giuliani can't even get his story straight while he's telling it. I never once met Prince Andrew. Never. I, I, I, I, I, yeah, yeah, I, yeah, yeah, I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thu, thu, thu, thu, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... th Andrew, never. I mean, yeah, one time we hung out in my office and we had that party, that time Bernie remembers that, don't you? Don't you, Bernie?
Starting point is 00:04:11 I mean, I don't know who Bernie is, but I bet he and his wife had a very long car ride home. But it turns out Rudy wasn't the only politician observing the day. Yeah, President Biden went to the World Trade Center with former presidents, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush, who gave a really beautiful and inspiring speech about unity and democracy. I mean, don't get me wrong. He skipped the pages about opening torture chambers and invading random countries that had nothing to do with 9-11. But aside from that, it was a beautiful, beautiful speech. And while that's the way, you know, the traditional theeeeeeee the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, the, and, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.. the. thean, thean, thean, thean, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the. the nothing to do with 9-11. But aside from that, it was a beautiful, beautiful speech. And while that's the way, you know, the traditional way
Starting point is 00:04:48 for former presidents to commemorate 9-11, there's one president who's never been about the traditional. During a visit with firefighters to commemorate the 20th anniversary of 9-11, former president Donald Trump repeated the false claim that he won the 2020 election. We won the election, but what are you going to do? We are fighting like hell and we're going to keep fighting. Trump then left for Florida where he provided commentary for a pay-per-view boxing match. Now let's see what happens with the scoring.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Yeah, this is boxing. You never know who's going to win until it's official. Like elections, it could be rigged. I've seen some of them too. Yeah. Donald Trump spent 9-11 doing live commentary for a boxing match. How is this his life? Like, how is he doing that? You know, sometimes I think Donald Trump is just a make-a-wish kid who never died. I want to be on TV.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Anything you want, big guy.. I want to be on TV. Anything you want, big guy. Now I want to be president of the United States. I mean, sure, I guess. Now I want to be a boxing commentator. Shouldn't you be dead by now? Who? Like, how old is this kid? Where did we get him from? And look, I'm not judging Trump. Like I'm happy any time an unemployed person finds to thah to to to thi to to to thi to to thi to to thi thi thi to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the thi, their to be their their their their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.. I theeanan.eanan.eanan.eananananananan.eateateateateateateate. I w. I'm thean. I'm happy any time an unemployed person finds work.
Starting point is 00:06:05 And I would definitely rather have him at a boxing match instead of hosting a memorial ceremony. And here comes the 9-11 widows, crying some of the biggest tears, the wettest tears you've ever seen. Aren't these ladies so beautiful? But honestly, I feel like this says more about the state of boxing than it does about Trump. I mean, have you seen boxing these days?
Starting point is 00:06:27 Every fight is just a massive gimmick now. Trump is commentating. Logan Paul is fighting a polar bay on roller skates. Like whatever happened to two men, just getting in the ring and trying to beat each other to death for money, huh? Shame. All right, and finally, some environmental news. These days everyone is trying to consume less and recycle more. And now Taco Bell, America's third largest fast food chain
Starting point is 00:06:56 and Pizza Hut stoner roommates is doing its parts. Taco Bell wants you to send them your trash. The fast food chain says it plans to launch a nationwide pilot program for customers to send back used hot sauce packets in the mail so that they can be recycled and not end up in a landfill. Taco Bell says it's using the mail because most people aren't physically eating at a restaurant. Okay, first off, it's a little ominous how Taco Bell is like, please people, we do not want the sauce to end up in a landfill. Like, why? What's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:07:33 We're going to end up with like mutant seagulls? Is that where Corona came from? But more importantly, this idea has all sorts of problems with it. For one thing, people who eat at Taco Bell don't care about the environment. I mean, they don't even care about their own bodies. Polar bears are concerned about them, not to mention the environmental impact. Think about it. Shipping empty sauce packets across the continent? Guys, I feel like it's much less wasteful for the packets to just stay where they are now in our kitchen drawers, you know, between some dead batteries and a bottle of crazy glue that you used once before the cap got stuck, they're doing pretty good there. So yeah, this is a weird idea, you know, but what did you expect?
Starting point is 00:08:17 Coming up with weird ideas is Taco Bell's whole thing. This is a place that will still wrap a soft shell around a hard shell and wrap that inside Doritos chip, which is delicious, but you really think their idea to save the environment is going to make sense? I mean, I'm just glad that they're trying to help. Although maybe they could start by not handing out a million sauce packets with each order. Maybe that's it. I order one taco-bell to waterboard it. If Taco Bell wants my advice, this is what you should do.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Taco Bell, you should just have somebody holding the sauce at the drive-thru to squirt it on people's food. Yeah. My aunt used to do that whenever we'd have a cookout at the family thing. She didn't want us wasting ketchup and all of those things, so she'd be like, hold out your hot dog, hold it out. That's enough. Move. That's enough. Move. That's enough. Move. But let's move on now to our top story. For months now, the US government has been doing everything it could to convince people to get vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:09:14 They made the vaccine free, but that didn't work. So then they started trying to pay people to get it, but that didn't get people to get everyone to get everyone to get everyone to get everyone to get everyone everyone to get everyone everyone to get everyone everyone everyone to get everyone everyone to get everyone either. So then they threatened to put Mike Richards back as jeopardy host. But that still didn't get the job done. Because you see, as of today, only 63% of people, 12 and older, are fully vaccinated. And it seems like President Biden is done waiting. Clearly frustrated by the pace of COVID-19 vaccinations in this country, President Biden tonight is trading out the velvet glove for a hammer, unveiling a broad and largely new COVID strategy, heavily grounded in vaccine mandates, meant to compel millions of American workers to be vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:09:57 President Biden announced sweeping coronavirus vaccine mandates Thursday, requiring all federal workers and government contractors to be fully vaccinated. He's also ordering all businesses with more than 100 employees to require shots or weekly testing for their workers. Companies that fail to comply could face fines of $14,000 per violation. My message to unvaccinated Americans is this. What more is there to unvaccinated Americans is this. What more is there to wait for? What more do you need to see?
Starting point is 00:10:31 We've been patient, but our patients is wearing thin and the refusal has cost all of us. Damn, this guy's not playing games. Getting a vaccine, it's a mandate. You say what you want about Biden, he's not messing around, man. This is actually what America needs, you know? America should say, the new law is every president has to be at least 90 years old and knocking on death's door. Yeah, just making policies like they're crossing shit off their bucket list. I don't care about re-election. I'm doing what I said. And if you ask me, it's actually smart of Biden to do this mandate through people's employers. That's smart.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Yeah, it's not the government coming for you, it's your employer, because Americans are already used to their employer having a ton of power over their lives. I mean, think about it. Your employer can tell you what to wear, what time you've got to be there. When you can leave, I mean they can even put up a sign on the bathroom door that says do not use. And then you just got to not poop. That's power. But still, a lot of people are wondering if Biden is even allowed to do this. And according to the Biden administration, the answer is yes. The White House believes it's on solid legal footing. Insisting the federal government has the power to protect workers from grave danger under the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970. We have never used OSHA. We have never used the power of the federal government
Starting point is 00:11:56 to mandate vaccines for this many people before. That doesn't mean that it's legally weak. It just means we've never seen OSHA, for instance, that was established 50 years ago, impose vaccine mandates to this extent. And it's new, but that doesn't mean it's illegal. That's right. Biden is issuing this mandate,
Starting point is 00:12:19 thanks to a law from 1970 that has never been used for something like this before. And a lot of experts agree with him on this, but I just love how there's so many laws out there that you can find one for basically anything you want to do, you know? I feel like America's laws are like a mom's handbag. Whatever you could possibly need, it's somehow in there. You can have sex on the beds at a mattress store. And if anyone objects, you can just be like, their their, their, there. You can have sex on the beds at a mattress store, and if anyone objects, you can just be like, clearly, you've never heard of the Taft-Hartley Act.
Starting point is 00:12:50 But while many health experts are happy to see Biden doing whatever he can to force people to get vaccinated, many Republicans think Biden basically just took a dump on the Constitution. And according to them, they're not going to stand there and smel it. The Republican National Committee is threatening to sue the administration, with at least 19 GOP governors vowing to defy the rules. What the Biden administration is doing is government overreach, pure and simple. This president is saying to them, look, you can either get vaccinated or I, as one individual
Starting point is 00:13:24 is going to threaten your ability to feed your family. And that's just wrong. You should not lose your job just because Joe Biden is having this hissy fit. The governor of South Carolina is saying he will fight them to the gates of hell. Wow. Fight them to the gates of hell. I mean, normally that statement is hyperbole. But with COVID, you might th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you might th, you might th, you might th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the gates of hell. I mean, normally that statement is hyperbole,
Starting point is 00:13:46 but with COVID you might actually get the chance. Yeah, COVID doesn't mess around. So, these Republican governors say that they're going to sue because of the mandate. And who knows, they might even win. Because you've seen the Supreme Court now. You know, Republicans run that shit. These days, Republicans saying, I'll take you to court basically is the same as them saying, let's see what my dad has to say about this. Huh? What do you say, Dad Gorsuch? What do you say? And what's interesting to me about
Starting point is 00:14:14 the mandate is that part of the reason Biden wants it is to help the economy. You know, he wants people to get vaccinated so that they can go back back back back back back back back back the Republicans would agree with this. I mean, they're the one saying, People have to go back to work, so we've got to get rid of the unemployment benefits. And then Biden says, yeah. And also, they have to get the vaccines. What? tooble. to mandate, the government would just keep trying to educate and convince people to take the vaccine on their own. What makes that difficult, and what everyone has to acknowledge, is that there's one reason to get a vaccine.
Starting point is 00:14:55 There's only one reason to get the vaccine, and that's to not get COVID and go to hospital. But people who don't want the vaccine. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. thoe. thoe. thoe. thoe. tho. thi. tho. thooo. thooooo. that's that's tho. that's tho. tho. What, tho. What, tho. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, the. the. the. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. What, that's that's tha. What's make make that's make thi. What's make that's make thi. What's make thi. Whatthey have like 5,000 reasons that they don't want to take it. Some people say there's not enough research on it yet. Some people are hesitant because they're worried about the side effects. Some people are hesitant because they think they're healthy enough to handle it on their own. Some people think there's a microchip in it where people can track you. Wait, the vaccine is tracking you? The vaccine is tracking us! You mean, like the iPhone that's always in your pocket?
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yeah, just like the iPhone! Crazy! I know, crazy, right? Wait, what? So you see, that's why a mandate might be the only way to get the vaccination numbers up. But that doesn't mean that people are going to go along along the the the the the to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along to go along the the thoomoomoomoomorrow thoomorrow thoomoomoome thoomoome thoome thioome thioome thioome thia thia thia thia thoomome thoomom too too too too too the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go along to go along to go along easily to go along easily to go along easily to go along easily to goa.a.a.a. toooooooooooooooanananananea to to to the are going to go along easily. Any mandate, no matter how much it seems like common sense to some people, is gonna make other people really mad. And it's not just a vaccine.
Starting point is 00:15:53 This has happened before, you realize that, right? There was a time in America, when a lot of people refused to wear seatbelts. And when the government finally stepped in and said, you have to wear a seatbelt, boy did they get pissed off............. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, thi, thi, that, that, thi, thi, is that, thi, is thi, thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is th. It is th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It th. It th, thi, thi, thi, that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that, that's that's that, that's that's that, that, that, that's thi, thi, thi, thi, thts. And when the government finally stepped in and said, you have to wear a seatbelt, boy did they get pissed off. It is a new seatbelt ordinance. If the town council gets its way, seat belts will be mandatory for everybody riding in the front seat of a car through Richland. I'll have to detour the town to get to Kalamazoo. They pass the seatbelt. I don't use the seat belt. I would w w w w w w we. I would have have have have have have have have have have have to th. I'll have th. I'll have th. I'll have th. I'll have th. I'll have th. I'll have th. I'll have th. I'll have th. I'll have the th. I'll have the the th. I'll have th. I'll have the. I'll have the. I'll have the. I'll have the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I'll have th. I'll have th. I'll have th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll the. I'll thea. I'll thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea'a'a'a'ea'ea'ea'ea'ea'ea'ea'ea'earedearede. they're they're the seatbelt. I don't use the seatbelt. I wouldn't wear my seatbelt. I get caught, I get caught, I guess. Florida Highway Patrol, Lieutenant Chris Miller, hears it all when it comes to seatbelts.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I hear it's uncomfortable. It wrickles my clothes. It's not cool. There's no freedom no more. You don't want to wear it? That's your choice. Hmm. Sound, sound familiar? Yeah? All the complaints about seatbelts back then are the same things you hear now about vaccines. I mean, except for the wrinkling clothes.
Starting point is 00:16:59 That's a very rare side effect of the vaccines. So look, the backlash to these vaccine mandates are really nothing unique. Mandates, by their nature, build resistance. And if Biden is going to be doing that, I hope he is ready for what's going to happen, right? Because mandates turn I don't nose into fuck yous. So even if you think mandates are necessary, all I'm saying is, buckle up. All right, when we come back, Roywood Jr. is going to tell me what COVID has taught him about life.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And the one and only Dr. Anthony Fauci is joining me on the show, so don't go away. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look. Starting September 17th, wherever
Starting point is 00:18:07 you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the daily sort of distancing show. Last week, the United States surpassed 40 million total cases of the coronavirus, which means America now has almost as many COVID cases as streaming networks. And for the last several months, most of those cases have been caused by the highly infectious Delta variant. But just like Travis Barker replaced Scott Dysk, there's a hot new variant that's taken over. As the Delta variant is sweeping through America's unvaccinated communities,
Starting point is 00:18:40 the WHO is warning of yet another variant of interest. The Mew variant, first identified in Colombia back in January, has now been detected in every US state except for Nebraska. While officials say it is not an immediate threat, the variants, quote, constellation of mutations. Mew, M-U. No, people. I'm sorry, this pandemic has a way to evade vaccines. M-Mu. Mew? Mew? No, people. I'm sorry, this pandemic has already been so hard.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I'm not also going to start learning Greek or cow. I'm not even sure which one it is. Is it Mue or Mue? How do you say that? Mue? Mue? Now, while all of these new variants have gotten everyone frazzled. I talked to Roy Wood Jr. and my good friend about it, and it turns out, variants are a lot more common than we think.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Check it out. My man, Roy! What's up, man? What's up, man? What's going on, my dude? I didn't think you were going to come when I thought about it though, but I can. Good to see you. Yeah, you came. I appreciate that, man. I don't do that, man. I don't do that, man.
Starting point is 00:19:47 No disrespect to you, man. I can't have your hands touching me. I don't know what kind of variance you got, man. I'm fooling the barrier. You know, you, you, you, you, you, you, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, t. t. t. t. t. t. t. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. touch, that's ridiculous, okay? I'm just gonna tell you right now that's ridiculous, all right? Because I wash my hands, vaccinated, vaccinated, you can dap me if you want to dap me. You can, you can, some thing. I'm sorry, man, these various gottie, complex. I grew this shit out so people could see it.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And now you have to cover it. Yeah, it's a bullshit. It's a bullshit. That's some bullshit. My gotee think I'm ashamed of it. I'm ashamed of it. I was excited. They were like, the thing with my tea? It's the point of having dimples if you can't show them shit off. Same thing with a goatee, my friend. Exactly, huh?
Starting point is 00:20:45 People don't know. You have face hair. People need to know about that. My boy. You know, I'll be honest with you, I'll be honest with you. This whole thing has been a learning experience. mutate so far. They go variants, more variants. Tell you something, before Corona, I ain't know a damn thing about viruses.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I thought people got chicken parts because they didn't use protection on the farm. Wait, what? But then I started watching Fauci, right? I started watching Fauci for like a year. Now, I'm an expert on this shit. I'd be watching my friends, hey dog, the server prevalence exceeded all one, cancel the cookout, click up.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Wait, so you were having cookouts. I told you to invite me to the cookout if you had a cookout. Yeah, it doesn't. You told me about COVID variants. That was, I'll let you know, Look, here's the thing. Here's the thing I learned about these variants, man. The more I learned about the COVID variants, what I've realized, right, is that variants are everywhere. This COVID thing ain't isolated. If you step out a problem quick, it ain't gonna mutate it, it ain't gonna muttape, it's gonna.
Starting point is 00:21:53 the problem that. Trump case in point. What we did with Trump, we let him run around four years, right? Well, I don't know if we let him run around, but yeah, I know what you ran around. Cool, fine. Not, motherf-wha's running around. Okay. Okay. So what we got now after Trump? You got variants. Marjorie Taylor Green. You got Matt Gates all up in our face. And Matt Gates look a damn f-it-like. Look like one of them people in Minecraft. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi's th. th. thi's thi's, thi's, thi's, thi's, thi's, th's, th's, th's, th's, th. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So. So, th. So,, no, no, I think I see what you're saying. The longer you let something bad faster, the wilder it's going to get. So this is like climate change, right? Because with climate change, they said to us, you guys need to cut down on the fossil fuels, and then a society we were like, no, we don't want to... What's the variant? Well, we've like, we've, we've, we've, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the tha. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th...... th. the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thea. thea. thea. thea. too. toda. toda. the. the. thea. thea. the. the. the. thornadoes. That's a variant. Fire tornadoes, dog. I mean, at least with a regular tornado, you get to enjoy a view while you're getting whipped
Starting point is 00:22:47 around through the sky. Climate change ruined one of the best parts of being in a damn tornado. I'm not from a place of tornadoes, so I'll just have to take your word on- I'm from Alabama. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the torn. I'm torn. I'm torn. I'm torn. I'm torn. I'm torn. I'm torn. I'm tornadoe. I'm tornadoe. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to torn. You. You. You. I'm torn. You. I'm torn. You. Kanye, it was going well and we didn't... Should have said something when he started saying slavery was a choice and rapping about poopity scoop. Off the top, you already know, it's never a good sign when your rap lyrics sound like rules at a dog park. But we didn't stop him. We didn't stop him. And what Kanye started doing? Start living in the basement of a stadium and start dropping albums that's damn two hours long. You don't wanna listen to no damn two hours.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Let me tell you something, if your album is more than two hours, that's not an album, that's a mother-biddiag book. It's a book. It's a book. I don't want to listen to your book. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not that, I'm not that, I'm not that, I'm not that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that to to to to to to lo, I'm not to that's to le. to le. to le. to le. to le. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho. tho. tho. tho. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. toomoomorrow. tell. tell. tell you. tell you tell you tell you tell you tell you tell you tell you. tell you tell you. tell you tell you., when you put it that way, variants are everywhere then. Like, it's not just a virus. It's politicians, it's politics, it's people. It's just like, if you let a thing get out of hand, then that's it.
Starting point is 00:23:52 So then the question is, what do we do? It's simple. Every problem has a vaccine. You just got to take it. For like mega politicians, the vaccine is v. For climate change, it's renewable energy. For Donda, I don't know, I guess it's just somebody just ripping my ears off of some shit. That's right. No, it's not that bad. I don't want to hear no more.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I don't want to hear no more. I put noise cancelling headphones on top of my beats. That's how terrible that album was. No, no, Roy the old that's, Roy that's, Roy the old that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No, no. No. No. No. No, no. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, it's no, no, no, it's no, it's no, no, no, no, no, no, no that album was. No, no, Roy, Roy. I miss the old Kanye that just interrupted white women. That's the one I like. Roy, it's not that bad. It's not that. Five tracks are amazing. Be honest, out of 70. Five tracks are amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:34 It's so fucking. A podcast. It's not a great album, but there are some good songs. It's not terr- You've just got to find the songs in the album. If you took a piece of shit, I bet you can find something edible. If you look through it long enough, you find some corn? Does that make that shit good? Kanye is not shit, take that back, Roy. I didn't say that there Corona Fighter-in-chief, Dr. Anthony Fauci. You don't want to miss it.
Starting point is 00:25:08 When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is America's top infectious disease expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci.
Starting point is 00:25:47 He's going to give us the latest on COVID, the vaccine, and all of the vaccine mandates. Dr. Fauci, it is an absolute honor to have you not just back on the show, but back in my new little space. So, first things first, congrats on still being the chief medical advisors to the president. Depending on what media I'm consuming, you are either hailed as a hero, or you are calling, people are calling for you to be fired. My question to you is, do you always just have to have your LinkedIn profile ready and loaded because you never know what it's going to be like for you? Not really, not really at all.
Starting point is 00:26:24 So you're stable now, yeah. Yeah, I'm in pretty good shape. I mean, you're right, there are a lot of slings and arrows that come with this job, but that's to be expected. It's a very controversial issue and very charged in many respects, particularly with regards to some of the things we're going to be talking about, vaccines and masks and all the other things that get people very exercised. So let's talk a little bit about that.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Let's jump straight in. You know, you have been working in the field of infectious diseases for, I mean, a lifetime. You have seen pandemics and epidemics come and go. But this feels unique. It feels unique in that people are fighting not just against the virus, but also against what many people are touting as the solution, aka the vaccine. Do you feel that your team could be doing a better job in convincing people to hit the vaccine?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Or do you think we've gotten to a point where now politics has taken over the conversation? Well we always can do better, and what we're trying to do, Trevor........ to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to be, to be, to be, to be, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the.e. the. thea. thea. te. te. te. te. te. te. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. te. te. te. te. te. and what we're trying to do, Trevor, is to get, for example, trusted messengers from the community to try and convince those people who have been recalcitrant about getting vaccinated. People who don't want to get vaccinated are not a homogeneous group. They have different reasons why they don't want to get vaccinated. Some of them just need more information. some of that understandable suspicions about how quickly things were done, and some just need a little coaxing. But there are some, and I believe it's a substantial proportion of the remainder, there are about 75 million people who are eligible to be vaccinated, who have not gotten vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Many of them are really almost for ideological reasons, because it's no accident when you look at the undervaccinated states and those places where you're having surges of virus more so than in any other part of the country, it's very heavily weighted towards red states as opposed to blue states. And that really shouldn't be, Trevor. It should not be. This is a public health issue. And as you said very appropriately a moment ago, the common enemy is the virus.
Starting point is 00:28:34 There shouldn't be the divisiveness that we're seeing. We're trying our best to convince people, but you reach a certain point where you almost hit a wall that you're not going to get to a certain group of people and that's where mandates come in. I mean no one likes to mandate people to do things that they may not want to do but sometimes for the greater good of society you have to do that you know same thing like seatbelts and things like that we do you you have to do it. But when you when you look at mandates the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the thin. the. the. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. that's that's that's to. that's the. that's the. that's the. the. thea. the. the. the. things like that that we do. You have to do it. But when you look at mandates in a world where so many people are unsure of the vaccines, in a world where people are still reading about side effects, you know, people who may or may not have died, you know, a study just came out now about adolescents having, especially
Starting point is 00:29:22 with teen boys having a greater likelihood of getting a side effect than getting any of the bad symptoms from COVID. Isn't it difficult to then convince people in that world because it feels like, you know, the government is forcing them to do something before everybody knows about the vaccine? Or do you feel that if we don't act now, then we're facing down the barrel of an even worse gun? I think the latter. I thi th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thi. I thi. I thr-a thr-a. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin is thin is thin is thin, isn't thin, isn't thin, isn't th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. thr. thr. thr. thr. teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea. Isn't is the. thin. the gun. I think the latter, but with regard to you mentioned a moment ago, one of the problems, Trevor, is that there's a lot of misinformation and disinformation out there. The thing we need to do is to get as much correct information out there. For example, many of the points that you brought up are countered by the mere facts. For example, if you do a risk-benefit ratio of the points that you brought up are countered by the mere facts. For example, if you do a risk-benefit ratio of the benefit of getting vaccinated,
Starting point is 00:30:11 particularly among younger people who might have a greater likelihood of getting this unusual and rare adverse event of myocarditis, which is a inflammation of the heart, almost invariably resolves without any real negative consequences, that when you do that risk-benefit ratio and it's done in a very serious way by statisticians that the benefit of getting the vaccine far outweighs the risk. That's just a fact. And then when you think about the other misperceptions that are due to misinformation and disinformation, you just have to be patient and do your very
Starting point is 00:30:52 best to counter the misinformation. And I believe when we do that, you will gradually see people. For example, one of the things that was sort of a stumbling block was that the Pfizer vaccine did not get yet full stamp of approval, what we call the BLA for a biological license application. As a matter of fact, it now does have the stamp of approval. So many people who were saying, I don't believe all you're saying, I want the stamp of approval of the FDA. Now we're seeing some people who were not amenable to getting vaccinated, are now getting vaccinated, but we're getting to your latter point. We've really reached the point now where although we're still vaccinating people at a reasonable rate, we don't want to go into the fall,
Starting point is 00:31:43 the children going back to school, they're getting into the holiday season when you have such a substantial proportion of the population, i.e., 75 million of the eligible people who are not getting vaccinated. That's just asking for trouble. Before I let you go, one of the things I learned the last time I spoke to you is that people sometimes don't really get the science. I know I'm one of them, I'm not a scientist, I get the basics and that's about it. However, I do understand people's actions.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And so we asked you what to do with our Amazon packages, we asked you what to do in public, etc. So I wanted to ask you if you wouldn't the to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, I to to to to to their, I, I, I to to to to to their, I, I, I to to to to to do, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm, I'm not, I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho, I'm not.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.eanan.e.a, I'm not a thaqqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqa, I'm not? It's really simple questions just so I understand what Dr. Fauci would rather do, because in life we have to make decisions. Are you game? I'm game. I'm a little bit. All right. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I'm not going to get you fired, Dr. Fauci. It's just a thing. thin. an outdoor concert in West Virginia, like right now, or an indoor concert in Vermont? That's a good question. I think outdoors is always better than indoors. I'm fully vaccinated. I probably would wear a mask, but outdoors is that much better than indoors.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Even in a place where the numbers are spiking. Yeah, I, you know, again, I know. I'm putting you in a touch spot. Please don't give me wrong. Don't give me wrong. I know what I'm doing. That's the whole point of the game. I know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:33:12 But you're saying. You're saying. Yeah, no, no, I wouldthe outdoors the important thing is what you're saying. Yes. Exactly. Okay. Okay. Would you rather watch the movie Shang Chi in a movie theater or on an airplane? You know, it's very interesting. Airplanes are doing what they can to really provide protection with hepa filters and having people wear masks.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I'm not sure what the movie theaters are doing. If they're providing really good ventilation, I think it could be an even match there. But until I know what the movie theaters are doing, I know what the airlines are doing, so I would probably be in an airline. Okay. Final question. Would you, Dr. Faucie, rather fight one horse-sized duck that has COVID, or 100 duck-sized horses that have COVIDs.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I go for the one-on-one as opposed to the many. I see. Is this because of like the risk of spreading amongst the many, and you can handle the one? Exactly. Okay. All right, well, I know you're a busy man. I'm always grateful to you for taking the time. I'm grateful to to to to to to to to to to to to to tha tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the tho the the thoome the the the the the the the thoesuoesuoessesesesese the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the I'm always grateful to you for taking the time. I'm grateful to you for being calm. I know you are one of the most hated and loved people on the planet and you get sucked into the politics when you just want to talk about the medicine. So thank you for joining me on the show. I hope to see you back. Hopefully next how we fought this thing and we want. So Dr. Fauci, thank you so much again for your time.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Thank you. All right, we're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. Well that's our show for tonight. Until tomorrow, stay safe out there. Get your vaccine. And remember, mail your unfinished sauce packets back to Taco Bell and mail your gordita to me, because I'm hungry.
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