The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Billionaires Intervene in Wisconsin Supreme Court Race | Bill Murray

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

Ronny Chieng covers the upcoming Wisconsin Supreme Court election, including Elon Musk’s $20 million intervention in Republican Brad Schimel’s campaign, attack ads against the wrong Susan ...Crawford, and alternating pro-pedophilia smear campaigns. Plus, Grace Kuhlenschmidt sees how billionaires are turning elections into games. Ronny Chieng on JD and Usha Vance’s big trip to Greenland, where native protestors are chanting "MAGA: Make America Go Away." Bill Murray sits down to discuss his latest film, “The Friend,” as well as his legendary career in TV and film. Murray talks about his philosophy of trying to stay in the moment, why he moved to France with his family after starring in a string of comedy blockbusters like “Ghostbusters,” his pivot to working with independent filmmakers like Wes Anderson, Jim Jarmusch, and Sofia Coppola, and what he gained from being a part of comedy institutions at The Second City and “Saturday Night Live.” He also praises Naomi Watts’s performance in “The Friend,” and the extraordinary Great Dane who is so good in the film, people speculate it’s AI.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news. This is The Daily Show with your host, Ronnie Timm. Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Roy Chiang. We got so much to talk about tonight. The legendary Bill Murray is in the house. But first, we're still 19 months away from the 2026 midterms, but I know there's some absolute freaks out there who need an election sooner than that. Right. 19 months is too long, man.
Starting point is 00:00:56 I need something right now. I'll suck your d*** for an exit poll. Well meet me in the studio after the show. Meet me behind the studio because I got a quick fix for you. Let's get into it with Indecision 2025, locally sourced edition. -♪ -♪
Starting point is 00:01:16 This Tuesday, there's an election for a seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court. And I know what you coastal elites are thinking. So what? They'll rule on what? Whether it's legal to marry your cheese or whatever the f***ing issues are in Wisconsin. Well, yes, that is part of it.
Starting point is 00:01:34 But also, it will determine whether abortion is legal in Wisconsin and how to redraw election districts, which could even determine which party controls Congress. And that's why the weather report for Wisconsin is calling for rain. A hundred million dollars. That's how much money could be spent on a state Supreme Court race in Wisconsin. And that would make it the most expensive judicial election in U.S. history. The race pairing Judge Susan Crawford from liberal hotbed Dane County against conservative
Starting point is 00:02:05 Judge Brad Schimel from Waukesha has big money outside donors like George Soros, J.B. Pritzker, and Elon Musk opening their wallets. Trump's close ally and financial backer Musk has gone all in on Schimel's campaign. The tech billionaire and groups aligned with him have poured more than $20 million into the state. Now, I know $20 million sounds like a lot, but remember that Elon has over $300 billion. $20 million is, like, one of his kids. It means nothing to him.
Starting point is 00:02:36 But, yes, this race has turned into a billionaire royal rumble. I mean, they're spending $100 million, which is obscene. I mean, you know, for that kind of money, you could have bought tens of thousands of Wisconsin residents their first ever salad. Instead, they're spending it on ads like this. This street's like any other in Wisconsin, but the new neighbor is a pedophile,
Starting point is 00:03:02 thanks to Judge Susan Crawford's sweetheart sentence. How corrupt is Brad Schimel? Schimel gave a plea deal to a man caught with child porn. Crawford let the predator out in just four years. Brad Schimel let a sex predator loose on our kids. Letting the rapist walk free. While rapists walk free. Called Crawford's negligence utterly disgusting. That's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Criminals are praying Susan Crawford gets elected. If you want them to be safe, don't vote for him. Wow, why is SVU wasting his time in New York? I mean, you got at least 20 seasons down there in Wisconsin. I mean, if you got this many pedophiles in Wisconsin, maybe the problem is Wisconsin. Because for me watching this on the outside, I'm like, should the rest of us put a wall up
Starting point is 00:03:55 around Wisconsin to keep all the pedophiles in there? I mean, I know it will trap the kids in there too, but the kids are probably also pedophiles, so it should be fine. I mean, there's so many pedophiles that if you wanna win, you should probably be making pro-pedophile ads, because it seems like it's a big constituency over there. Like, why don't you do some outreach?
Starting point is 00:04:17 But hey, I guess this is the story of American elections. Way too much money paying for way too many negative ads. In fact, Elon Musk is spending so much money on attack ads, he's not even paying attention to who the ads are attacking. An attack ad against Supreme Court Justice candidate Susan Crawford is using a picture of a different Susan Crawford. An ad launched by a group backed by Elon Musk instead used a picture of Susan P. Crawford, who's a Harvard University law professor. Okay, to be fair, if I'm ever talking to a white woman over 50
Starting point is 00:04:52 and I forget her name, I just call her Susan Crawford. And I'm usually right like 80% of the time. But maybe Elon just needs glasses. I mean, it could change everything. He'd be like, oh my God, that cybertruck looks like shit. But Elon isn't just spending all that money on attack ads. He's also dusting off a tactic from the 2024 election, voter self-checkout.
Starting point is 00:05:23 The Elon Musk backed America political action committee asking Wisconsin voters to sign a quote petition in opposition to activist judges the reward for each signature $100. $100 come on Elon it's gonna take more than that for Americans to sell their souls to you. Elon Musk's Political Action Committee has handed out one million dollars to a voter in Wisconsin just for signing a petition. A million dollars?
Starting point is 00:05:52 Come on, Elon, you have taken way less for Americans to sell their souls to you, all right? I would have done it for 250. For more on the flood of billionaire money, let's go live to Wisconsin with our very own Grace Kuhlensmit. Grace. Grace.
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Starting point is 00:06:21 Grace. Grace. Grace. Grace. Grace. Grace. Grace. Grace. Grace. Grace. woman, Ronnie. It's 2025, women can do anything men can do, including beating up an old man and stealing his monocle and top hat. What, you beat up an old man?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Is he okay? This race is really heating up, Ronnie. There's so much money pouring in right now, they're not even being subtle about it. Elon Musk is shooting gold bars out of a t-shirt cannon. That sounds kind of dangerous. It is, but the people it didn't kill are filthy rich. Okay, Grace, this is awful. All right, billionaires should not have this level
Starting point is 00:06:54 of influence in local elections. Are you kidding? This is the best thing to happen to Wisconsin since Brett Favre's penis. Look at all this. They painted the whole city in gold. The street lamps are crystal chandeliers. The birds are diamond encrusted. Sure, they're dead, but they're beautiful.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Okay, well, so Wisconsin doesn't mind the billionaires meddling in the elections? No. In fact, they're trying to get billionaire money in all their elections, no matter how small. This morning, I saw an attack ad that said Mary Beth Kowalski should not be senior class president at Sheboygan High because she's a woman. billionaire money in all their elections, no matter how small. This morning I saw an attack ad that said Mary Beth Kowalski should not be senior class president
Starting point is 00:07:28 at Sheboygan High because she failed her driver's test. All right. Look, this is disgusting. I know, her mom still drops her off at school. No, no, no, I mean, it's outrageous for Wisconsin to shift its entire economy to depend on billionaire election money. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:47 If you can think of a better way to transfer billionaire money back to society, I'm all ears. What about taxes? Huh? Taxes. What? Taxes.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Speak up. Taxes. One more time. Taxes. Two more times. Taxes. What? Taxes. Speak up. Taxes. One more time. Taxes. Two more times. Taxes. Taxes. Taxes?
Starting point is 00:08:12 What? Ronnie, I don't know what language you just slipped into, but I gotta go. That old man is waking up and I gotta finish the job. All right. Don't hurt him. Grace Kulinsmith, everyone. All right. When we come back, America goes after its 51st state, so don't hurt him. Grace Coolinsmith, everyone. All right?
Starting point is 00:08:25 When we come back, America goes after its 51st state, so don't go away. Welcome back to The Daily Show. Look I know there's a lot of Trump haters out there who are like, this guy can't focus. He's got the attention span of a golden retriever on cocaine. Which sounds like a great idea for a movie but it's not, and I call dibs. Well, you couldn't be more wrong, okay? Three months into his term, President Trump is still laser focused on the single most important issue
Starting point is 00:09:13 affecting most Americans, invading Greenland. After weeks of speculation that he wants to take over Greenland, President Trump is doubling down on his suggestion that the US will play a larger role in the island's future. We need Greenland for national security and international security. So we'll, I think we'll go as far as we have to go. We need Greenland and the world needs us to have Greenland, including Denmark. Denmark has to have us have Greenland.
Starting point is 00:09:44 You heard that right. Denmark has to have us need to have Denmark have us have Greenland. It's very clear. So last week, President Trump announced that he would be sending a special delegation to the future 52nd state, led by a very special woman who Trump is definitely vaguely aware of.
Starting point is 00:10:02 New this morning, Second Lady Usha Vande. We'll go to Greenland this week, the White House announced. National Security Advisor Mike Waltz will join Mrs. Vance as part of the American delegation. She's a brilliant woman. She's a very nice woman. And she loves the concept of Greenland. She loves the concept of Greenland.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I mean, Green, she loves Green. And land, don't even get her started. Now in some ways, Usha Vance is a great person for this trip. I mean, Greenland is pretty cold and lifeless. So being married to JD Vance has left her very prepared. And if she was hoping a trip to Greenland would at least be a few days away from her boring husband, well, he had some bad news for her.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Hey guys, it's JD Vance, the vice president. And you know there was so much excitement around Usha's visit to Greenland this Friday that I decided that I didn't want her to have all that fun by herself. And so I'm gonna join her. Yo JD, give her some space, okay? If you want to know what she's up to, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:11:11 She's going with Mike Waltz. So the whole world is gonna know every move she makes. But with this all-star delegation, I'm sure Greenland is gonna roll out the red carpet for American imperialism. When the vice president and a high-level U.S. delegation flies in tomorrow, there will be no big grand welcome. No American flags flying in the streets and no photo ops with locals. 85% of Greenlanders do not want to be part of the United States, according to a recent
Starting point is 00:11:39 poll. Would you like to be American? Oh, no, not really. The leaders here have been clear. Greenland is not up for grabs and the American delegation is not invited. Wow, they're holding up signs that say Greenland belongs to indigenous people. America is like, oh, you have no idea
Starting point is 00:11:59 how much we don't care about that. Here's some measles. I mean, Greenland does not want to make America great again. In fact, they want the opposite. The idea of prompting protests, along with a different kind of MAGA hat, this one reading, Make America Go Away. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Make America go away. I do love the tone. It's very bitchy. I mean, they should make one that says, oh, seriously, America, just kill yourself already. So basically, the people of Greenland really hate JD Vance in particular, which means, as always, Donald Trump is right. They really are ready to be Americans. When we come back, some guy called Bill Murray will be joining me on the show, so don't go
Starting point is 00:12:53 away. Welcome back to The Daily Show. My guest tonight is a comedy icon and an Academy Award nominated actor whose new film is called The Friend. I can't believe I get to say this, but please welcome the legend, Bill Murray. -♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Wow. Thank you. Thank you. Wow, thank you so much for being the only guest who put the merch on. Yeah, I know. They told me it was business casual. So, business casual, you know, it's good.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I know, we give it to everybody. You know, whenever it does what they're told and wears it on stage. I also have to thank you for something else. I've never told this story on air, but I was lucky a couple years ago. I was doing shows with Dave Chappelle in Ohio, and they said, hey, Ronnie, we have a plane for you back to New York, but do you mind dropping off Bill Murray along the way? And I was like, are you kidding me? I get to go on a plane with Bill Murray?
Starting point is 00:14:43 Does he want me on? And they're like, no, no, he's great. Yeah, totally, he wants you on. And you let me get on your plane so I could get out of Ohio. So I really appreciate it. Thanks so much. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah. Hey, that goes for all of you. And the whole time I was on the plane with you, you were so generous, you were so kind, you were very considerate, you were trying to time the flight so I wouldn't hit traffic in New York, and I couldn't believe you were talking to me. And the whole time I was like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:15:15 I'm living one of these legendary Bill Murray stories right now, like I'm in the story that I keep hearing about. And so there's all these stories about you popping up around America, and I just want to ask, is this kind of philosophy of life, of this live in the moment randomness, is that something you kind of carry into your self-expression? Well, I think most of our lives are accidental,
Starting point is 00:15:36 as much as we think we're in charge. Most of it's accidental, and it's just how you are able to live with the accidents that you create, that you're part of. Right. I kind of like the excitement of the unknown and figuring, oh, now look what I've done. So it's been fun. Yeah, but it is a conscious choice, right, to be present.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Because not many people can do it. I mean, you've said yourself, you tried to make yourself more available. Well, the conscious choices come and go. They come and go. They come and go. So, but yeah, sometimes they are. So that's why there's sometimes a through line that looks like there's a plan.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah, but so I guess just in terms of Hollywood, applying that philosophy to, you know, this crazy thing we call show business Hollywood. And you know, your approach to it has always really intrigued me because you're someone who I feel is, even though you're an icon in the Hollywood system, you still feel like you purposely take yourself outside the system.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I mean, is that a conscious choice for you to be? Well, I don't think I'm any good to anyone if I'm just in the system all the time. You know, if you're not going out in the world and coming back with something, you're not doing any good to your family or your world. You know, you gotta go out there and live. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:57 No, I agree with that. But you acknowledge that's not a common thing for most of these guys in Hollywood. I despise the rest of them. No, it's, you know, you get excited. You know, you get excited making a career and you start getting busy and you know, it's hard. Everything's a distraction. So everything can take you away from, you know, trying to like try to remember yourself
Starting point is 00:17:18 and try to, you know, keep it together. Yeah, and I mean, sorry to hop on about, but I just want to emphasize how strongly I feel this embodies your philosophy. And I feel like because I think it was after Ghostbusters, I read that biggest movie in the world at the time, and you immediately kind of moved to France with your whole family and started studying at the Sorbonne
Starting point is 00:17:38 just to get yourself out of it, I guess. Yeah, I knew I was a little too weak to... I mean, it was going to be a whole lot of fame fame like walking down the streets in New York when you've already saved New York Aaron judge doesn't have that problem and The other thing because you you've been you had such longevity in the business you've been around I feel like you're one of the few guys who is
Starting point is 00:18:09 actually qualified to talk about this. So right now I feel like we keep looking at the past with these rose-tinted glasses just with culture I mean forget politics whatever just culturally when we talk about movies and you were part of this incredible run of American comedy films like it was, you know, Caddy Shag, Ghostbusters, Scrooge. You had this run of just stripes of hits. And we look back on that now as like this golden age in American comedy film. When you were in that era, were you looking back at previous eras and going, that was the golden age? Or were you like, nah, I'm the king right now.
Starting point is 00:18:46 This is the best I've ever been. I wasn't really, I mean, I look back now more than I did then. Back then we were just excited to be having a good time. People didn't take it so darn seriously. We would, we would, you know, we change the script every day. We'd just go out there and have fun. We'd knock ourselves out. And as long as you're tired at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:19:05 it means you worked hard. You know, you try to be exhausted at the end of every day. And like always trying to find new things to do and just a way to work, you know. And also it's a funny kind of living making movie. You're in a kind of a gypsy world with like 150 people for about three months and you live very intimately
Starting point is 00:19:24 and then you never see each other again, maybe, you know. So it's very, you have to be very devoted like 150 people for about three months and you live very intimately and then you never see each other again, maybe. So you have to be very devoted to the whole process. Everybody's a part of the solution. Anyone can fix any, any can find the answer to the problem. So you're all really connected. So that kind of living is very demanding.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I love it. I really do like movies. I like making, I realized just recently, God, I really like making movies. Yeah. Well, good news for you. People, everyone wants you in that movie. Yeah. Yeah. This movie is good. Yeah. This movie is good
Starting point is 00:20:00 and I made another movie that's good called Riff Raff that just came out that's really weird. Not like anything I've ever seen before. With Pete Davidson is with Pete Davidson. With Pete Davidson and Ed Harris and Gabby Union, a lot of good people. Jennifer Kulich is insanely funny in that movie too. But this is a good movie.
Starting point is 00:20:16 This has got Naomi Watts. This Naomi Watts in this movie, The Friend, it's the best performance I've seen by an actress in so long I can't even remember. It's unbelievable what she does in this movie, The Friend, it's the best performance I've seen by an actress in so long I can't even remember. It's unbelievable what she does in this movie. Right. Yeah, well, that deserves a round of applause. I mean, Naomi Watts is killer. Yeah. Yeah. I love... I love how you started promoting this movie,
Starting point is 00:20:40 and then you had to quickly promote this other movie. Well, I was promoting that movie, and I was promoting this movie while I was promoting that movie and then you had to quickly promote this other movie that you... Well, I was promoting that movie and I was promoting this movie while I was promoting that movie. I really like, you know, I want people to go to movie theaters and see movies in movie theaters, because look at this, you're in a group of people, you know? We had a couple of years where
Starting point is 00:20:57 you couldn't be in a group of people. And it's like the, it's the shared experience. It goes back to the Greeks, you know, it's a theater and you all get together and we share our humanity together. Yeah. Yeah, it's the best It's really the best Yeah, which brings me to this this other question I had like you are talking about the movies are doing now the friend and Riffraff I mean these are these are. And I guess, just talking about your career again, there was a moment when, after all these blockbusters and you were the biggest name on the planet,
Starting point is 00:21:31 you kind of, like, you went away for a bit and you shifted into this, like... You basically ushered in this new golden age of American independent film with Lost in Translation and, you know, all these West Anderson movies. And I guess, was that plan? Ronnie, I swear to you, there's no plan. There is no plan.
Starting point is 00:21:51 There's no plan. I just like to do what I like. And it happened that those great people like Sophia, and Wes Anderson, and Jim Jarmusch, these are people who have a real integrity, a real powerful integrity, and a real love and history of film culture. They wanted to make movies, and because, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:10 I always say, like, I didn't embarrass myself too badly, so that's why they hired me, you know. And I know you're living in the moment, and it's very Buddhist, and I appreciate that, and I try to live that philosophy, but I'm just saying, you have to acknowledge, at the time when you did these indie movies, you had a lot of clout and you were risking it
Starting point is 00:22:30 whether you cared about it or not. You were risking it on these kind of unproven talented directors a lot. And was that a conscious choice to like, I want to give people a chance or were you just attracted to material? Well, you know, Ron, when you see the script, you know, like I got the script for Rushmore,
Starting point is 00:22:45 which is Wes Anderson's movie, or Sofia's movie, lost in translation, or especially Rushmore. They said, you want to meet the guy? I said, no. You don't want to meet the guy? I said, no. He knows exactly what he wants to do. Let's go. I didn't need to meet him. I was like, I'll see you at work. I don't really need to talk. He knows exactly what he wants to do.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And Sofia's same way and Jim Jarom's same way. They know exactly what they want to do. Their script is so clear, like what their intention is, that you have great confidence. When you're watching a good movie, you know it in a minute because you just feel so confident with the way the camera moves and the way everything goes. And that's how their scripts read.
Starting point is 00:23:25 They read like this, it reads like, this is storytelling, this is real storytelling. Right. Um, and you were, you know, oh, okay. What are you doing? Someone's... We can applaud. Look, it's...
Starting point is 00:23:41 It's fine to applaud every word this guy says, because I'm doing it too. Yeah. Oh, I should say, these guys wrote a good movie. I should mention the reason we're here, sort of. But David Siegel and Scott McGee, they took this book written by a New York girl lady named Sigrid Nunez, who's really fun.
Starting point is 00:24:02 You should have her on the show sometime. She's really cool. They took her book, which is a great book, and won the National Book Award, whatever, and made a great screenplay out of it. Well, whatever they give those writers, you know? But they made a great script, and they directed this script together,
Starting point is 00:24:18 and it's really good. No, it's a good movie. I watched it. It's very touching. It deals with some pretty sad topics. A very dramatic role for you, I would say. There's a... I don't know. I checked with the director. It's not a spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:24:31 You're essentially dead most of the movie. Yeah. Yeah. That's how they wanted it. Yeah, that's how they wanted it. Yeah. You play a dead guy in the whole movie, basically. Well, yeah, I'm alive some of the time. I'm alive some of the time. It's very touching.
Starting point is 00:24:47 It's very dramatic. It's a very well-written story. It's really great. And there's an extraordinary. Naomi Watts is great. And there's an amazing dog in the movie. That dog is one of the most responsive animals I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 00:25:04 When I first saw the first cut of the movie You'd see something would happen in a scene and there'd be this sort of emotional moment and you would see the dog React to it and I And someone who saw the movie said that's AI. That's not a real dog Is it that's the dog the dog heard it and felt it and expressed it. It's an extraordinary thing. So it's a great Dane and it's an amazing animal. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Sorry. All right. Yeah, and... How do you stop them? How do you control them? No, you can't. They love you. Don't stop the love.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Let the love come in. And I know you're going to... I know you didn't plan this, but one of the themes I noticed in your career Is that you have this kind of? There's these animals that pop up in a lot of your In a cool way, you know, like a groundhog day and the friend the dog there's an elephant That's you know, go first go for problems. Yeah So, I don't know is that do you think there's something I know you're not thinking about that
Starting point is 00:26:04 But is there something what what is it about these these animals it has something to do with like there's a lot of actors that just don't want to work with them so I've got to find I've got to go into the animal kingdom to get a co-star but it's it's works out okay for me I don't know it's it is funny that it keeps coming up like that. I should be worried. I don't know. I don't know. But the animals are the real ones. I mean, I got bit by the gopher in Groundhog Day. You know?
Starting point is 00:26:32 The other gopher in Caddyshack blew the place up. This dog is really great. I rode an elephant in a movie that was fantastic. Yeah. You know, I've... You know, I'm not one of those guys, but I mean, this dog is smarter than many people that I've ever met.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And the elephant I worked with was smarter than virtually everyone I've ever met. So their intelligences were as, you know, it's a mystery to us. And it's probably sort of, for me, it's a mystery to us. And it's, you know, probably sort of for me, it's entry level dealing. You know, they say if you, you know, before you try to have children, you should have a pet.
Starting point is 00:27:13 See if you can care for someone, take care of something, another creature. So probably. Okay, I'll try. I'm getting to it a little backwards, but. I look for a pet elephant before I have kids here. Let me try to find one. A starter.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And I mean you are such a, you came up, not only are you an American icon, but you came up through these iconic American institutions like SNL and you know, create Ghostbusters and Second City. Second City, yeah. Second City, all these institutions. And my question to you is, you know, it feels like these institutions kind of don't have the, don't have the kind of sheen that they used to have before in terms of attracting all the talent,
Starting point is 00:27:59 because now people are going to like TikTok and making a video on their toilet seat. You know, and I guess my question to you is that a do you like that that that is that a good thing that these is that people are on their toilet making videos and you know I there shouldn't be any limits about what can be funny you know I've been watching a lot of South Park lately I never really got to watch a lot of South Park. It's brilliant. It really is. No, South Park is brilliant. It really is brilliant.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And they, you know, they can be scatological. They can be anything, but they do it in such an intelligent way that it's constantly amusing to me. But like, in terms of like the sheen of the great institutions like Second City or Saturday Night Live, well, I, you know, I go back with them, like Saturday Night Live, when I was there, there were seven of us in the cast.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Now there's, you know, a couple of dozens. So there's a lot of people, and Second City used to have like two casts, you know. Now they have like a university, you know, they've got like a seven-story building or something with like people taking the classes. So it's sort of, it's not necessarily watered down, like a university, you know, like a seven-story building or something with like people taking the classes. So it's sort of, it's not necessarily watered down
Starting point is 00:29:10 and like you can't say Saturday night is sort of watered down, but there's a lot more people. It's a little harder to get traction if you're one of the actors. But Saturday Night Live, any week, there can be a sketch that's absolutely brilliant, just like in the early days. Any week they can a sketch that's absolutely brilliant, just like in the early days. Any week, they can make one that's absolutely perfect.
Starting point is 00:29:28 But you know, it's just the group, it's a little harder to wrangle, because there's, you know, it's a herd, they've got a herd of people. Yeah, but I guess my question, because I revered American institutions, American comedy institutions specifically, that's why I'm here in America.
Starting point is 00:29:42 And I came here because my dream was always to be, take part in it somewhere. Well look here, look here, look here. Yeah, no, I'm lucky and I'm lucky that these guys give me a shot, but I guess I always saw the value of these institutions. Well there's a huge value. If you can go through those things,
Starting point is 00:29:58 if you can go from one, I always used to say, if you can go through Second City and Saturday Night Live, you can do anything. Right. You can do anything. Because the intent, the, not the, I shouldn't say pressure, because I believe pressure is sort of imaginary.
Starting point is 00:30:11 But the demand to be attentive to what you're doing. And every professional on Saturday Night Live, like every guy on a camera, every prop man, every single person, is the top guy, the top woman in their field. So everybody's excellent. So if I screw up, he's looking at me like, nice. Nice.
Starting point is 00:30:30 You know? So, and that's what it was. You were in this environment of real, like a, like just a transformative spot where you had to perform. It was an elite pressure cooker. It was an elite pressure cooker. Well, it wasn't exactly, I wanted to say pressure cooker, but I want people to get off of pressure.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I don't sort of believe in pressure. I think it's sort of imaginary. I think it's just, it's emotion that you can't control. And that's why it sort of gets up, and it feels like the top of your head's coming off. But it's really just a, there's a demand to show up, you know? And you have to relax. Otherwise, there's a demand to show up, you know. And you have to relax, otherwise that pressure comes up to your brain
Starting point is 00:31:09 and then you don't work so well. Well, speaking of American institutions, Mr. Bill Murray, your institution. Thank you. Thank you so much for the movies you did. You're one of the people that my mom is excited that I'm interviewing. Who is? If, when we were kids in Manchester New Hampshire, we would watch her movies, it brought my family together. If my dad was still around, he would have loved this.
Starting point is 00:31:35 He would have loved that I got to meet you. I'm sorry, if my dad were around, he'd love it too. Thanks so much, Mr. Bill Murray, everybody. Thank you. The Friend opens in New York, March 28, and nationwide April 4. Mr. Bill Murray, we're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. -♪ Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah Hey, that's us over the night.
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