The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Black in Business - Legacy Cereal Company's Nic King | Gugu Mbatha-Raw

Episode Date: February 3, 2022

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You're listening to Comedy Central. Good news, everybody. I know a lot of you have been stressed by this and been waiting. The Washington football team officially chose a name. Yes, I know a lot of people are stressed about this. People couldn't sleep. I know some of you in the crew. You're just like, at night, your wife was like, what's wrong, honey?

They haven't got a name. So yeah, they've gone. They have changed their name. They're now called the Washington commanders. Which I misheard the first time I heard it. I thought they said the Washington commandos and I thought it was just like a team that wasn't going to wear underwear. I like, that's a dope intimidation tactic. Yeah, tackle me, see what's up. Yeah, but the commanders is the new name, which is like a powerful name, isn't it? That's like, that's respect, the Washington commanders, whoo, put some respect on that name.

The commanders got blown out 47 to 3. That's powerful. I love that. It's also funny how, like, the NFL, this whole thing was like a scandal of like racism for the NFL. and the NFL, and the NFL, the NFL, the NFL, the NFL, the NFL, the NFL, the NFL, the NFL, the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. th. th. th. their, their, thi, thi, their, they, they, they, th, th, the, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, ta, that's, that's, they, they, they, they, they, they, like, that's, like, like, like, like, like, that's, like, like, that's, like, that's, that's, the NFL, this whole thing was like a scandal of like racism for the NFL. And then this is the end of that scandal. And I'm sure the guys in the NFL were like, well, we did it, boys. No more racism scandals for us at the NFL. We got it.

No more racism? What? A lawsuit about what? God damn it? Coming to you from the heart of Times, where where, to where, to where, to to to to to to the to to the to the the to the to the too, the the too, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the thi.e.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. Wea. Wea. Wea. And, the the the thi. And, the the the heart of Times Square in New York City, the only city in America. It's the Daily Show, ears edition. Tonight, off with CNN's head. Whoopi makes a whoopsie, and Gugum Bata Roll. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah.

Hey, what's going on everybody? Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. Let's jump straight into to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. Let's jump straight into today's headlines. All right, we kick things off with some news coming out of CNN. Yes, the channel you watch at the gym while you listen to your podcast. The network has always been famous worldwide for its 24-hour news and people shouting at each other coverage. But over the past few months, the spotlight has been turned on them, especially in the wake of Andrew Cuomo's harassment scandals, and then Chris Cuomo's secret defense of his brother's scandal.

Well, today, that scandal took yet another twist. We have news now to report involving our network. CNN President Jeff Zucker has just resigned after disclosing a consensual relationship with a colleague. He wrote to staffers a few minutes ago quote as part of the investigation into Chris Cuomo's tenure at CNN, Cuomo of course fired last month. Zooker says I was asked about a consensual relationship with my closest colleague someone I have worked with for more than 20 years. I acknowledged the

relationship evolved in recent years. I was required to disclose it when it began., but but but but but but but but but but but but but to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to to the the to the the to the to the the the the to their their theirthan 20 years. I acknowledged the relationship evolved in recent years. I was required to disclose it when it began, but I didn't. I was wrong. As a result, I am resigning today. Man, this must have been a really weird day for CNN. On the one hand, it's bad that your boss is resigning under a cloud of scandal. On the other hand, you got the scoop. We begin with that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi thiiiq thiq thiq thiq thiq thiq thiq the the the the the the the thiqqqqqqqqqqqq. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the I have have the of theate'aq.aq.aq.aq.aq.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.e.a. t. th. th. th. th. th. th. On the other hand, you got the scoop. We begin with breaking news.

Did you know that Jeff and Allison were banging? I saw them come in the office together one morning, and I totally called it. I mean, I didn't say anything, but I totally called it. What's this? Just in? I'm also involved. But that's right, Jeff Zucker, the long-time head of CNN, is stepping down because according to his statement, he didn't disclose that he was having a relationship with a colleague. And I don't know if this is the full story, but what I do know is that at CNN, it seems like

there's no middle ground. When there's a scandal there, it's either someone who isn't disclosing way too much. And look, I know, people someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone the story the story the story the story this the story the story the story this the story the story the story the story the story the story thi thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus is thusususususus is thus is thususususususususususususususususususususus. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi is thi is thi is thi is thi. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo way too much. And look, I know this story is going to come as a surprise to a lot of people. You know, people are going to be like, wow, someone has been in charge of CNN this whole time? I thought it was just a bunch of roommates that found camera equipment behind a dumpster. But yes, Jeff Zucker was running CNN. And you may not know this, but he's the one who made CNN what it is today. Right? He's the one who pushed it toward entertainment more and less news. And oh, he's the one who said, enough of those international correspondence.

Let's just get people fighting on the camera. Like, you remember when CNN would just make us watch Trump's empty theam for an hour? That was his choice. Yeah. And the reason he liked he he he he liked Trump, because he knew that Trump was good for ratings, because Jeff Zucker is the one who gave Trump the job for the apprentice. And the apprentice is the only reason that Trump went on to become the president. Ah! That's not even the craziest part of the story. The craziest thing is that Jeff Zucker's downfall all started with Andrew Cuomo. Remember him? Yeah, Andrew Cuomo groped women.

Chris Cuomo, his brother, try to help him. So then CNN looked into Chris Cuomo. They investigated him, and then they found some shit on Jeff Zucker. What? So Andrew Como was such a creep that he took down himself, his brother Chris and the president of CNN. He's like, Ronin Faro, but th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, all, all, all, th, all, all, th, th, th, th, tho, the the, tho, tho, the the tho, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thr, thr, thr-c-c-c-c-s.-S.-S.-C.-S.-S.-C.-C.-S.C.C.C.C. tho. throwne, by accident. I mean, at this point, who knows how long Cuomo's fallout is going to last, right? He groped a bunch of people. Now everyone is feeling it. You know,

he's like a human Chernobyl. 80 years from now, Brazilians are going to be at war with Australians like, that's all the cause of Andrew Cuomo. All right, but let's move on. From someone else who's in hot water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water water to to to to to to to to to to to to thoos foos foom-coo-coo-coo-coo-coo-coo's th. th. thoom-coe is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thoooooooooo. th his job to someone else who's in hot water at work. Whoopi Goldberg, co-host of the View, and the only coach to lead the Knicks to a winning season. In case you missed it, the five women on the View were having a discussion about Mouse. You remember the graphic novel about the Holocaust? And by the time the discussion was all over, the panel was down to fall. This morning, more fallout for Whoopi Goldberg. ABC News, suspending Goldberg from the view for two weeks,

after she made controversial comments about Jewish people and the Holocaust on Monday's episode. The Holocaust isn't about race. It's not about race. What is it about? Because it's about man's inhumanity to man. But it's about white supremacy. But these are two white groups of people. Goldberg apologizing live on the program Tuesday. Yesterday on our show I misspoke. I regret my comments as I said and I stand corrected. The segment also included an interview with Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt

who later commented on Goldberg's suspension. We shouldn't cancel Whoopi because she made a mistake. I heard Whoopi say that she's committed to doing better. I accept that apology. ABC releasing a statement acknowledging that Whoopi has apologized, but asking her to take time to reflect and learn about the impact of her comments. Yep. Whoopi Goldberg is in a whole lot of trouble. And I understand why. I understand why people were upset with what she said, because the way she said it, it made it sound like the Holocaust

was just some white people who were fighting some other white people, you know, sort of like game of thrones. But as the spokesman for the Anti-Defamation League later later later later later later later later later later later later later later later. some white people who are fighting some other white people, you know, sort of like Game of Thrones. But as the spokesman for the Anti-Defamation League later explained to her, Hitler did see Jews as a separate race, and even worse, as a separate species, you know? When you think about it properly, protecting the master race, that was the Nazi's whole thing, you know, race purity, like all these tiki torch bitches that you see running around now. Hitler was the OG of that. You know, in his mind, everyone was supposed to have blonde hair and blue eyes.

Except for him, he got to look like an angry broom for some reason, but that's not the point. You know, so I totally understand why people were upset. Because the Holocaust had everything to do with race. And I'm glad that Whoope apologized because, like, I don't think that she was trying to hurt anybody here, you know, I think she made a mistake. And I will say, I think it's a little weird that her network suspended her for sharing her view on the view. I mean, if she's remorseful, why send her away?

Isn't it better to keep her and then use this as a teaching moment? Then you can have everyone watching, also learning, like, oh, I actually didn't know that about the Holocaust. Maybe they didn't. Rather than sending her away for two weeks to do what? Reflect and what, and what, do her own research? I mean, that's never a good idea, you know? Yeah, these days you tell someone to go research the Holocaust on their own,

they'll come back in two weeks, like, did you all know that the Jews have space lasers? He'd be like, ah, damn it, you on YouTube. Oh, man. Anyway, let's move on to our next story. Today is Groundhog Day, which leads me to ask, what the hell is Groundhog Day? People pull a rodent out of the ground and then ask the animal to predict the weather? This is so unfair, because if Africans were doing shit like this, and you heard that we pulled animals out of the ground?

Like there are villages in Africa where people wear animal skins, and if I try to explain that Americans use groundhogs to predict the weather, they'd be like, but why not just use the satellite data? All right, that's it for the headlines. Let's move on to our top story, which is about Russia, the former and maybe future Soviet Union. Over the past few months, Russia has sent over 100,000 troops to its border with Ukraine, which understandably has a lot of people freaked out. Ukraine has

been preparing for war, America and the United Nations have been threatening devastating sanctions on Russia, and today President Biden sent thousands of troops to Poland and Romania, just in case Russia decides to add some more countries to its shopping list. But the big question is, why? Why is Russia bringing Europe to the brink of war? Well, yesterday we finally heard from Russian president and leader who ends every sentence with or else Vladimir Putin, and he says that none of this is his fault. Russian President Vladimir Putin's first comments on Ukraine since December after his meeting in Moscow with the leader of Hungary.

Putin claimed that the West has ignored Russia's top demands including blocking Ukraine from joining NATO. In his first public comments on this crisis in weeks, President Vladimir Putin accused the US of trying to contain Russia. Ukraine is just a tool, he said. Despite more than 100,000 Russian troops now massed on Ukraine's border, Russia still claims it's the real victim, threatened by the US and its NATO allies. And Moscow insists it has no plans to invade Ukraine. Yeah,. And Moscow insists it has no plans to invade Ukraine.

Yeah, Putin says that Russia has no plans to invade Ukraine. So I guess those 100,000 troops on the border, they're just doing that thing where you stand outside a restaurant and read the menu. No, no, we're not going in right now. Maybe we come back for special occasion. And look, I know it's hard to feel sorry for anybody with a Russian accent, but I do actually understand why Russia is so freaked out by NATO. Because here's the thing.

Don't forget that NATO was formed to oppose the Soviet Union, right? That's why I was formed. Then the Soviet Union broke up. But instead of disbanding, NATO has been expanding closer and closer to Russia's borders. So from a Russian point of view, just a Russian point of view, it's almost like they lost a boxing match, but then the guy who beat them moved in next door. The fight is over. What are you doing here?

I don't know, man. You tell me. All right, when we come back, Roywood Jr. is going to put his life savings into breakfast cereal. You don't want to miss it. Welcome back to the Daily Show. America is a nation of entrepreneurs. And Roywood Jr. gets in on the action in his new segment, Black in Business. I'm Roywood Jr. and every week I shine a light on black entrepreneur's change in the game. From app developers to the DVD man who somehow already has his hands on John Wick 7. If you're Black, we're in business.

Right on, people, and welcome to Black and Business. This week, I'm betting it all on a sector that's experienced incredible growth in my house this year. Breakfast cereal. We all know the big players. Tony the Tigers, the lepricon that steals from white kids, and the rabbit that also steals from white kids. But ain't none of them cereals black. Unless you count the raisin' box, which I mean just kind of feels black. But now, there's a new

face in the cereal bowl. I sat down with Nick King, a man who's introduced a cereal that's in the shape of a black power fist. He is truly putting black in business. Nick King, much respect to your brother, you are basically the Jacket Robinson of breakfast cereals. Should have called them things 42s. The biggest piece for me is how important it is for black kids to see themselves in a positive light. You know, what breakfast cereal, a space that has never been infiltrated.

So I just wanted to be the change. Well, you got a good product. I can't wait the the the the the the thakenck tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha. I can't tha. I can't tha. I can't tha. I can't th. I can wanted to be the change. Well, you got a good product. I can't wait to see these fists. Man, these is Kibbles. I know Kibbles one of us. This is cat food. That's supposed to be fists. Yeah, actually, it's no longer, unfortunately,

empowerment fists. We've gone through multiple different manufacturing companies that said the shape of the sseatoo complex. Hang on, hang on. They said it was too complex. They got cinnamon toe shape, they got honey smack frog turrets, but you can't make this! We're dealing with a hundred-year-old industry and because we didn't want to slow up the company any further, we have transitioned to regular, circular puffs. What about the kids? What given their approval. What kids? What kids? My son is my first original taste tester. He's now 15. Oh, he don't count.

That's your son. You're kicking him out the house. You know what I'm gonna do for you, bro? I'm gonna do a taste test with kids you don't know. I accept a challenge. Mm-hmm. panel. First off, thank you for taking the time to appeal on black and business. I know you all have a hard out right before bedtime, so let's get right to it. Now, have any of you all seen any cereal with black people on the box before? No. I've only seen that raised raisin cereal that has that sun on it. See? Told you that shit was black. That's a smart one right there. So Bailey you've tried the cereal. Give us your analysis.

I like about the cereal because it's crunchy. Is it cereal for black people just saying, I'm not trying to make anything offensive but just saying. That's a very fair question. This cereal is created by a black person. So in knowing that, how would you feel if you saw one of your white friends eating a black-owned cereal? The only white person I know is my girlfriend. Okay. Well, that was unexpected. But an answer nonetheless. Continuing on, what would make this cereal an even better investment? If the cereal pieces look more like this. Okay, raise your spoon if you're also disappointed that the cereal is not shaped like a fist.

So you all are saying the cereal itself just needs to live up to the radical message that's on the box. Excuse me a second, that's a good idea. Good idea. All right, Nick, good news. I spoke with children not related to you and they all thought the cereal tasks. I told you they would. Mm-hmm. Now, there was one thing that the kids were a little disappointed on and that's that the cereal was not shaped like a fist. Now, I know you have explained why the cereal can't be black. Now. in the meantime, Nick, you gotta lean into the cereal being black. In fact, you need to make it blacker. I'm a little nervous about it then, but go ahead, Roy. Here's a black ass cereal, I know you ever go hard for.

Fred Flakes. Not, Nick, don't go nodding your head, Nick. What better spokesperson for cereal than the chairman of the Illinois Black Panther Party Fred Hampton. What else do you have, right? Okay, okay. Now, what about this one? I got a cereal for black people that they can enjoy with their white girlfriends. All I owes. Now, that too far. T.A.O.s. I recognize my privilege. That's ally o'os. I recognize my privilege. That's the slogan. You got to say it like that. that. that. that. that. that. that's that's that. to to that. to to to to that's to that. to that's that's that's that's th. the the that's their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. the the. the the the. the. I. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the like that. You say it like Tony the Tiger.

I recognize my privilege. The slogan, you gotta say it like that. I'm gonna be honest, right? I didn't want to ruin this for you. Your creativity was good. I didn't want to kill it. But at the end of the day, I want kids to be able to sit at a table and see themselves, them themselves, see them themselves, see them, see them, see them, see their their their their their their their their their their their the And that's the idea. That's why I built Proud Puffs. You know what, Nick King, I respect your vision,

and I'm gonna change your life right now by investing in your cereal. I'm gonna make your dreams come true. Now, how much money do you need for an initial investment? I would say, anywhere upwards, 300 K? Oh. Somewhere around here, fall hard. Yeah, damn. I do not have that kind of money.

Which is why I'll see you next episode where I'll be examining another breakfast industry. Toast. That's what I could afford. I think that could work. That English muffin. We got wheat, we got white, you got multi grain. We got Riga. Thank you so much for that, Roy. All right when we come back, Gugug-Umbata Roar is going to be joining me right here in the studio, so don't go away. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is actor and producer, Google Mbata-Raw. She's here to talk about starring in the new psychological thriller series, The Girl, before.

Yo, that guy's creepy. Yeah. There's definitely an energy that you get in the show when you watch it, where you go, I don't know this person, but he really, really creeps me out. Welcome to the show, Gug, thanks for having me. Congratulations on yet another show that I think is gonna get a lot of people thee. like just a knack for picking really great roles in really great either limited series or shows I mean people loved you you know in Black Mirror San Juaniper is one of people's favorite episodes in Loki you got some

of the best reviews which is not usual for like a superhero franchise you know people are like you're amazing in it and now here you are with this new is it a mini series or limited series it's a four episodes right right where you're playing what I think many New Yorkers will relate to, somebody who has rented a place from a very creepy person. I know, I mean it's such a departure for David Yelow as well because, I mean I know you know him as well, but he's, you know, everybody knows him from Selma, Martin Luther King and all the things that he's done. And this character of Edward, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, th, they th, th, they they they th, and th, and they they thi, and they thi, and they thi, thi, thi, they, thi, they's, thei.a, thea, thean, thean, thean, they's they's they's they.a, they. and all the things that he's done. And this character of Edward really keeps you guessing

because he's this minimalist architect. He's a perfectionist, and you can't quite figure out if he's a good guy, if he's a bad guy. And every episode, there's so many twists and turns in the story. But yeah, it's been a wonderful experience. You know what's really going to shock some people is, I was watching the clip with one of my colleagues and then she was like, oh wow, she does a really great English accents. And I was thinking, I wonder how many people would think that about you and David, where they go like, wow, they're doing really fantastic English accents. Are the people who know where you from at all their their their, their, their, their, their, tha, tha, tha, tha, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, tho, thin, their, thin, thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and, I, and, and, I, I, and, and, I, I, and, and, and, and, and, and, I, and, and, is, is, and, and, is toes, is toes, is toes, is toi, is toi.e.e.ea, is, to.a.a.a.a.a.a.a, was, was, was, their, was, was, at all? I know, it's so funny because when I first read the script

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to really ground my work in a way, because I felt like now I have to choose projects that are sort of good enough for Zoe, you know, that's the sort of, you know, that idea that idea of the idea of what she's looking up, seeing, seeing, seeing, seeing, seeing, seeing, seeing, seeing, seeing, seeing, seeing, seeing, s s s seeing, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the, the the the the they, they, they, they, they, they, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, they, the, the, the, the, the and the idea of what she's looking up, seeing somebody that looks like as much as I see a younger version of myself in her, she might see an older version of herself in me. So yeah, making- I feel like that's a lot of pressure. Right, but not always, but then there's things like, like, Loki for example, where you go, wow, like what would my seven-year-old self be doing now? pinching myself and so rather than seeing it as a pressure I sort of see it as also to give myself permission to be joyful and playful as well. You have

like one of the most interesting connections with Loki as well because Tom Hiddleston plays Loki right and then you went to the same drama school as him? He was the year below me at drama school even though I'm a bit younger than he realized you almost have like a horror movie story but like you're like following all the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. th. I was was was was was was was was was was was th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I'm th. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. to to thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm th. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm th. I'm th. I'm a bit younger than him. You realize you almost have like a horror movie story, but it's just no one's getting killed in your story, but like you're like following all the people. We were born at the same hospital,

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to be around our sort of old drama school buddies. You've someone who's done everything. I mean, you know, a lot of people will know you from your acting. You've also been somebody who's been really closely involved, you know, with the United Nations and working around the world. I didn't know this about you until I read a little deeper into your world. So I've always known that your dad is South African. Your mom is English. I always knew that your name, Gugulet who is from South Africa. But what I didn't know was that your dad was that your that your their toe is, tolde, thiiiiiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. thu. thu. thu. thu, thu, thuuu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu. thu. thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, the thu. the thu. the thu. the the the the the thu. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thiiii. their,to escape South Africa because he was fighting the apartheid government and it was actually

the UN partly that helped him. I mean, yeah, the circle of life. It's really, truly incredible and it's a strange thing because you know, obviously it's an incredible honor to become a Goodwill ambassador for UNHCR, but my dad, you know, under the apartheid era, was student activist, member of the ANC, you know, and had to flee. And it was a very difficult time for him. And he was studying, doing his medical training, and he actually, the UNHCR helped him finish his medical training and, you know, and come

to the UK. So when I got the call to be able to go on my first mission with the UNHCR, you know, to my cousin was like, aha, you know, that is an ancestral call, you know, like that truly is an ancestral call that it sort of brings it back, and it makes it so much more meaningful for me, you know, to know that that's part of my cultural legacy too. Google, thank you so much for joining me on the show. Thank you. Congratulations on everything they've done. Thanks so much. All four episodes of The Girl Before the Before the to, we'll be available on HBO Max February 10th.

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