The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Boycotters Skip the Bezos Met Gala & Trump Can’t Focus on the Economy… or Anything | Paul W. Downs

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

Desi Lydic dives into the major cuts airlines are making to compensate for rising fuel prices, from beverage services on Delta Airlines to all services on the now-defunct Spirit Airlines. And while President Trump boasted his ability to tell the difference between an alligator and a squirrel on his cognitive test, his rant about rigged elections and nuclear war before an audience of children proves he can't tell the difference between minors and adults. Ronny Chieng and Michael Kosta face off in another round of Sports War: Horse trainer Cherie DeVaux clops through the gender barrier at the Kentucky Derby, Patriots coach Mike Vrabel takes heat for his alleged affair with NFL reporter Dianna Russini, and NBA Playoff tickets for the 76ers vs. the Knicks are restricted to fans in Philly. Award-winning writer, actor, and co-creator of the HBO Max comedy series “Hacks,” Paul W. Downs joins Desi to discuss the hit show’s fifth and final season. They get into the magic behind the dynamic duo of Jimmy and Kayla, and Downs reveals who inspired Deborah’s late-night host storyline in the show’s fourth season: Joan Rivers, Debbie Reynolds, and maybe even Desi Lydic. He also discusses his concerns about AI, why it was important to cover the topic in the show, and the pressure of delivering a finale that satisfies both fans and creators. -- To get simple, online access to personalized, affordable care for ED, Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, visit https://Hims.com/dailyshow Head to https://Quince.com/dailyshow for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. For up to 65% off your order, head to https://VeracityHealth.co and use code DAILY. -- The Daily Show airs weeknights at 11/10c on Comedy Central. Stream full episodes on Paramount+ Follow TDS: YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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To talk about tonight, the MetGala theme was oligarchy, and NFL coach gets a timeout for what he did with his own balls, and is Donald Trump smarter than a fifth grader? We'll find out, but no. So let's get into the headline. It was the Met Gala. It's the biggest night of the year for fashion and for your mom saying, now is that one heated rivalry? But the biggest trend on the red carpet this year was controversy. This year's Met Gala finds itself steeped in turmoil.

Why? Because the honorary chairs are billionaire Jeff Bezos and his wife Lauren Sanchez. Look at the message projected last night on a building in New York City, boycott the Bezos Met Gala. Yeah. Fully support this message, although I don't know if the people living in that building do. Sorry, can you just take it down and notch? Your activism is getting in my eyes. Where did they even find a projector that big? Well, probably Amazon.

They have Prime Day deals. No, no, no, no, no, Desi, remember, boycott, boycott. The wealthy are living their best lives. The rest of the country is tightening their belts. The war in Iran has sent fuel prices rising to the point where over the weekend, Spirit Airlines was forced to shut down. Spirit Airlines, at least it's no longer suffering. Twin Heaven, after a three-day layover in Phoenix.

Things are getting so bad that even the real airlines are struggling. If you fly Delta and you look forward to hearing the words, would you like a Biscoff cookie and a complimentary beverage when you travel? Yes, please. You may be out of luck. Delta is eliminating snack and drink service on all flights under 350 miles. Play with the smoke detectors. Now this? This is bullshit. So if I want a free cookie, now I have to, what, give blood at the Red Cross? You can fucking forget about that.

This is my blood, okay? I made it so I get to keep it. F***c off, you bloodthirsty maniacs. What is wrong with you? Sorry, I just really like cookies. Now, without pointing fingers, this entire situation is President Trump's fault. So he needs to reassure people that he has a plan to fix the economy. And fortunately, he had the chance yesterday.

when he hosted a small business summit. These are the men and women on the economic front lines. Donald Trump, give them the reassurance they need. Anybody running for president or vice president should take a cognitive test. So I've taken three. No president, think of this, has ever taken one.

Kind of a weird flex. It's like bragging about being the only kid in school who gets a special helper. This is not a test to see how smart you are. It's to check if your brain is functioning, which Trump should. should understand based on the questions. The first question is very easy.

And they always show the first question is, you have a lion, a bear, an alligator, and a, what's another good, a squirrel, OK? Which is the squirrel? That we have a president who can differentiate between an alligator and a squirrel. Unlike President Coolidge, God rest his soul. But Trump's struggling to remember all the animals

isn't a surprise. In fact, maybe that should. should be the cognitive test. You have a lion, a bear, an alligator, and a, what's another good, a squirrel, okay? Which is the squirrel? You have a lion, a giraffe, a whale, and a shark. And they'll say, which one's the lion? It's a lion, a giraffe, a bear, and a shark.

They say, which one is the bear? A tiger, an elephant, a giraffe, a giraffe, a tiger, or this, a whale. A giraffe, a fish, and a hippopotamus, right? Sure, there was even a test. I feel like there's a good chance the president was just watching Zootopia. Small business owners aren't the best audience for Donald Trump's animal facts. Is there an audience that's closer to his intellectual level? President Trump hosted a group of children at the White House today for an event promoting physical fitness.

Ah, there we go. That's more of your speed. talk about animals until your heart's content. The power of a nuclear weapon is something I don't, you don't want to talk about. You can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. You might be too young for this. Not too young.

I'm sure they've already seen the Paw Patrol episode where they drop a ballistic missile on Humdinger. Talking about nuclear war in front of children. You kids have seen Oppenheimer rights, Lawrence Pugh. Her tities were out for 10 minutes, and he became death destroyer of all world. So true, so true. It was ever an event where it was important to stick to the topic at hand.

It's the one where you're surrounded by small children. You understand that, right? It was a rigged election. Barack Hussein Obama. Have you heard of him? Open borders letting anybody come in from the Congo, from countries all over the world. They came in from prisons and mental institutions. He can put on weight, like up and down, like a yo-yo.

And he doesn't take the shot, okay? We just hit records on the Dow. I reached 50 in the first year, and then I reached 7,000. When you have transgender mutilization, don't listen to this kids. And then all of a sudden, a woman dropped dead with a bullet right there. And his trauma dumping on me again. He's talking to a room full of adults. He sounds like a child.

When he's talking to a room full of children, he sounds like pennywise. He's not exactly the one you want taking care of your kids. Although in this country, we might not have a choice. Are you struggling to find child care in a country that can't provide it? The United States can't take care of daycare. We're fighting wars. We can't take care of daycare. Then you'll love Donnie's daycare.

A daycare center personally run by President Donald Trump. Child care is his thing. Have you ever done the whole kid thing, changed the diaper and all it? I've never been into it. You know, it's never been my thing. It's not totally his thing. But he'll teach your kids important life skills. like fairness.

I thought I'd easily win the election, which, by the way I did. And unfortunately, bad things happened. It was a rigged election. They'll be engaged with arts and crafts. In a bite, he was incapable of signing his thing. So they'd follow him around with this big machine, an auto store, an autopay. Then it's nap time. Then a story circle.

A woman dropped dead with a bullet right there. And look, a visit from Uncle Bobby. 77% of our children cannot qualify for military service. You said it, Unk. Then time for another nap. At Donnie Daycare, kids learn how to handle conflict. Do you think you can take me in the fight? They'll learn self-esteem.

You have no weight problems. That's the good news, right? And they'll learn nap. So bring your kids to Donnie's daycare. They'll love the fun and games. They don't like playing games with us. They don't like it to know. You'll see that.

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Brought to you by gambling. Gambling. It's the Michael Jordan of Addictions. I'm Ronnie Chen. And I'm Michael Costa. This is Sports War, the show where we are legally not allowed to agree with each other. That's right. So if I say the Stanley Cup is the most beautiful

trophy in sports, and I say, hell no. Have you seen the ass on the Heisman trophy? I mean, Why do you think he's going like this? He's saying, stay away from my perfect ass. Okay, let's start things off with the only sport where you get to rest your sweaty balls on your teammates back.

Stay with me, horse racing. History was made at Churchill Downs this weekend when trainer Sheree DeVoe became the first woman to win the Kentucky Derby. Her horse, Golden Tempo, charged from the back of the pack to edge out the favorite renegade just as they cross the finish line.

You go, girl. Man, my feet are covered in blood, yes. My feet are covered in blood because I've been walking on a shattered glass ceiling. And because I tried to sneak into the Met Gala and I fell through the skylight. Regardless, Cherie DeVoe has cemented herself in she sports herstery.

You had grades like Billy Jean King, Mary Lou Retton, and now this unforgettable horse trainer, and I'm blanking on her name. What was it? What was it? You just said it six seconds ago. I know. I want to say, was it Horsica? Was that her name? Okay, why are we celebrating the horse trainer anyway?

The horse did all the work. It's easier to be a horse trainer. I can be a horse trainer. All you have to do to make horse run faster is you go up to a horse and you just say, hey, horse, if you lose, I'm going to turn you into glue. The cheap kind that Michael Costa sniffs. First of all, I sniff the good stuff.

And secondly, why do you hate women, Ronnie? Because I would never denigrate the talent of this legendary girl boss named shit. What was it? I feel like, was it Horcifer? Okay. Which brings us to our triple coin better than night. How will Golden Tempo celebrate his big win?

Brought to you by gambling. Gambling problem? I'll tell you who has a gambling problem. It's Ronnie. His problem is he sucks at it. I've been kicking his ass all year. Shut up! The Westminster Dog Show is rigged. Anyway.

Moving on from Kentucky's fastest horse to New England's biggest horse. The ongoing controversy that's shaking up the sports world. Photos published by the New York Post show New England Patriots coach Mike Vrable and reporter Diana Rossini getting cozy at a resort in Arizona. Both are married to other people. New bombshell photos emerging showing Vrable and Rossini allegedly kissing at a New York bar in 2020. Both Vrabel and Racini have previously claimed that their relationship is platonic. What was Mike Vrable thinking? Didn't he learn anything from Bill Belichick?

You're supposed to wait till after you're done coaching the Patriots to get into a super-fripped-up relationship. Let me tell you what I think, Costa. I think we shouldn't judge this, okay? Because we don't know the full story. Mike seems like a normal, charming, special man who's looking for a so-me. Hmm You seem to be going very easy on Vrable. I wonder if it has anything to do with this

recently leaked photo of YouTube. Wow. Come on. It's just two friends doing pottery. You're missing the contacts. There were 12 other people in that class. And Mike took turns of each and every one of them. It's not my fault.

We had the most sexual chemistry. And you all want to question my integrity, Costa, given this leaked photo of YouTube, doing God knows what. Okay, okay, it's not what it looks like, all right? It's just one friend painting another friend naked while wearing the heart of the ocean. That's exactly what it looks like.

Well, can you blame me? I've never had anyone paint my genitals in such fine detail. I mean, the shading on my perineum was incredible. Which brings me to our vow buster, Better the Night. Who will Coach Brable choose in the end? Brought you by gambling. Gambling.

It gives my life meaning. That me crushing Ronnie and gambling over and over again. I thought Asians were supposed to be good with numbers. Shut up. My cousin's gender reveal is rigged. Your face is rigged. Moving on to the NBA playoffs, where the 76ers are trying to put Nick's fans in a timeout.

The Philadelphia Senate. 606ers take it on the New York Knicks, and Philly is doing everything they can to keep Knicks fans out of their home arena. The Sixers, they are restricting ticket sales to fans only that are living in the greater Philly area. Hell yeah, this is a great idea. The Sixers should have a loyalty test at the door. Anyone coming to the game has to prove they're from Philadelphia by eating human shit off the ground. Are you kidding me? Philly should be grateful anyone wants to visit their shit city. People only go to Philadelphia for two reasons to eat cream cheese or the star in that AIDS movie.

Ronnie, Ronnie, that dumbass take is why you suck at gambling. In fact, let's take a look at our Sports Wars scoreboard. As you can see this week, I've lost $250,000. While Ronnie has lost a whopping $460,000, that means I won the least lost. Hell yeah. Suck it, loser. It's not over yet. come from behind if Victor Wenbenyama turns out to be a kid sitting on the shoulders of another kid as he obviously is.

Oh, please. This thing is over unless you have some access to some secret Asian ancestral plane for gambling advice. Well, I do. Whoa, Jet Lee? Hey, Ronnie. I'm how do you? Um, Lee, sirfu, um, I need your wisdom to beat Micro Costa at gambling. Oh, do youboe's from life.

I think you have to do it. I don't do. Yeah, yeah, that's not super helpful. Um, can you give me any advice? Oh, can you? Okay. I'm this new book, Beyond Left and Death. Okay.

Now, pay me the money. Okay, well, I don't have my wallet in my vision. No money, no book. Okay, well, can you give me something? I need to beat Michael Costa at this thing. Mm. Give him this. This looks like a candy bar rapper.

Ah, my coach, what's what I mean? I was with Jet Li and he said to give you this! He said you would know what it means. I have no idea what it means. You think he was just handing you his trash? What? This next week where we debate if Mr. Mez, a man with a baseball head or a man with an undiagnosed brain tumor.

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Welcome back home. Thank you. How you feeling? How you doing? You know, I'm a little tired. Last night was the Metball. Oh, you went. No, but I was up really late, you know, online.

I was being bitchy. Oh, weren't we all? Yeah. Isn't it amazing how we all become fashion critics when the MetGala comes around? Like, I'm sitting in my sweatpants with a bag of flaming hot Cheetos. Like, oh, that bodice is all wrong. Like, what am I talking about? 100%.

We should go next year. We should. Who's sponsoring it? Not Bezos. I don't know. Yeah. I hope not. Okay.

Well, you know what? We'll say that we go. Okay. And then if the sponsor is someone like Elon Musk, then we'll just edit this part out. Okay, great. We'll delete it on the end or not. Clip it, that's good.

Yeah, super easy. Super easy. Oh, fifth season, fifth and final season. Yeah. 12 Emmy wins. Nominations. Crazy. And it's, Hax is one of those rare shows

that honestly somehow continues to get better and better every single season. How do you do that? How do you keep up with the momentum of the show and keep outdoing yourself. We try really hard. Yeah. We really try hard.

I mean, we have an amazing room of writers who help us do it, and we have an incredible cast that makes everything better on the day. So it really does take... It takes a village, and so we have a lot of help. But, you know, it's so nice when a show does get better,

like a show that you love watching it. It kind of sucks when they tread water or get worse. So, you know, we feel a real... onus to make it good. Well, you do. Thanks. And also, I assume hallucinogenics. That's probably, I'm sure that has something to do.

Oh, there's a lot of drugs, yeah. There's a lot of drugs involved. Okay, that. Psychedelics. Yeah, psychedics. Yeah. Psychedelics is a shamanist. We got a witch on stuff.

Oh, okay. Okay, that explains it. A little bit of witchcraft, a lot of, yeah. Last season, Deborah Vance goes on her journey as the only, and I want to make sure that I get this right. Female Late Night Host. Am I saying that right? That's right.

That's right. Yeah. It's a rare thing. It's a very rare thing. It's a very rare thing. Now, did anyone inspire that for you? You know, there's a little bit of, there's, you know. Well, yes.

Deborah's an amalgamation of a lot of people. You know, there's some Joan Rivers, there's some Lucille Ball. There's some Debbie Reynolds. There's some Desi. Oh, thank you for. Myers has a very feminine side. Oh, he's beautiful. He's a gorgeous man.

So I can see it. There's a lot of Seth Myers in her. Yeah. You're, I love your character, Jimmy, so much. You were brilliant on the show as an actor, but you're not just acting. You're show running. You're writing. You're directing some episodes.

I guess men really can do it all. No. It's impressive how much you do on the show. Thank you. How do you juggle all of those jobs? How do you direct yourself? That's a challenge. Yeah.

Yeah, he's a diva. You know what I mean? Honestly, the hardest job is directing myself. But luckily I have my wife Lucianielo and Jen Staski who created the show with us. They're behind the camera all the time. So, you know, I have a lot of great people around me. And also, my scene partners are so good.

Whether it's Gene Smart or Megan Stalter, it's like, you know, my job is so easy because the people around me are so good. Okay, I have to say, I know that Deborah and Avar, like the heart and soul of the show, that relationship. But, yes. Okay? My favorite scenes are with you and Kayla. Jimmy and Kayla scenes, your relationship is so funny. It's a real classic, won't they, won't they?

Yes, and they won't. And they won't. Okay, that's what I was going to ask. No matter what Meg wants, they won't. Yeah, she keeps trying. She does. She writes letters. Yeah. But no, we have so much fun together. And, yeah, we think of ourselves kind of as like a bizarro Deborah and Eva in a way. Yeah.

Because obviously that is the heart of the show. Although I always think of the show as more like about, you know, an intrepid manager and the crazy women in his life. Well, yeah. Yes. But depends on who's watching. You know, it depends on the lens. Is there any chance we might get a spinoff?

I wish. I wish. You thought about it. You stopped for a second. You thought about it. Well, I hesitated. Yeah, that indicated. Well, the thing is that HBO doesn't really do spinoffs.

So, you know, unless we break them old, I don't know. Oh. throw Robbie Hoffman in there. I mean, she'd be in a spinoff. I would watch the shit out of that show. Yeah, it'd be good. I would, too. I would love it.

Well, you heard it here first. There will be a spinoff. I'll be the producer credit because it was my idea. You are. You want to set the records straight. That's right. You have an entire episode on AI. And I think the way that you tackle it is beautiful.

Is that something that's on your mind constantly as a creator, as a writer? Oh, yeah. All the time. In my nightmares. Yeah. It's terrifying. It's very terrifying. It's really, really terrifying.

You know, it feels like there may be applications that make sense for it, but in the creative process, it feels like that's something that we figured out. We absolutely don't need it. And it's something that is decimating huge segments of the workforce and will fundamentally change society. So yeah, I'm scared. Yeah, I'm thinking about it a lot. Same.

You can applaud. There's a lot of, a lot of chat you can tease. Yeah, I was going to say the audience is AI tonight. Okay. You look gorgeous. Yeah, they do. They're perfect. There's one thing that cannot be replaced by AI, and that is lunchtime theater.

Could you tell us what lunchtime theater is about? Well, yeah, you know, there's like a cool kids table at lunch, and then there's a less cool kids' table at lunch. And then there's a place in school, at least in my high school, which was an attic theater, where if you were super uncool, you could go and perform for other people. people who weren't at lunch. Yeah. And so I used to do that. I used to do this lunchtime theater. And it was actually the first time I wrote characters and performed and was writing and performing. And so it was actually really formative to not be at the cool kids table.

Oh, I didn't realize that you only performed for people who also were not at lunch. Now, I have to go on the record, I was incredibly popular. Yes, yes. I also had a calling, though. I had a calling, you know, so it was self-sulling. Oh, I love that that's where you cut your teeth, your comedy teeth. Oh, my God. What were some of the presentations? You know, probably the most famous one

for any of you who were around at the time. I did a Norwegian goat milk farmer. Oh. Yeah, that was a really good one. Oh, that's fun. Do you still have that character readily available? Absolutely not. Okay.

I love to do that. No, unfortunately. I can imagine that the only thing harder than creating a hit show a hit show is finding way to wrap up a hit show and to not disappoint the fans who have fallen in love with these two characters. How do you deal with the pressure of knowing that the fans want a satisfying finale?

Well, we have a witch. We have a shamaness. We have second-ed-dollar-chlor-chart. It's really hard because you want to end the show in a satisfying way for the fans especially, but also for our social. ourselves. And so, especially after five seasons, there is so much pressure to stick the landing. But what is weird about our show is that we thought of the idea five years before we pitched it,

and then when we pitched it, we pitched the final episode. So we've known about it for a long time. So it's evolved and obviously it's expanded as we've come to write for these actors and learn the characters more, but it's been sort of building toward this the entire time. So I really hope it's satisfying because we've been planning. it for a long time and we can't go back but you know it's yet to be seen it's not out yet so but it's it's terrifying you know of course well i can't wait you are so talented i love your show so much so are you so are you can you kind of clarify these reports of kamikaze dolphins that we've heard about i haven't heard the kamikaze dolphin thing it's like sharks with laser beams right

and i can't confirm or deny whether we have kamikaze dolphins uh but i can confirm they don't ultimately. Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by searching The Daily Show, wherever you get your podcasts. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central, and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount Plus.

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