The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Chris Wallace Fact-Shames Trump | Susan Rice & Nathalie Emmanuel

Episode Date: July 21, 2020

Fox News's Chris Wallace grills President Trump, "Tough Love" author Susan Rice discusses the Trump administration's COVID-19 response, and Nathalie Emmanuel talks "Die Hart." Learn more about your a...d-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Hey everybody, welcome to the daily social distancing show. I'm Trevor Noah. Today is July 20th and New York has officially entered phase 4 of the reopening. Or as coronavirus calls it, back to work, baby. Now, as you can see, I, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi, thi. thi. thi. thii. thiiii. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th has officially entered phase 4 of the reopening. Or as coronavirus calls it, back to work, baby. Now, as you can see, I am still filming the show from my apartment, because I'm using the TV studio to store grain. Yeah, you've got to be ready for the second wave. Anyway, on tonight's episode, Trader Joe's decolonizes itself. Kanye West drops his weirdest track yet, and although most classrooms are closed,
Starting point is 00:01:06 Chris Wallace still found a way to take Trump to school. So let's do this, people. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. From Trevor's couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor No. Ears edition. Let's begin today's tod's tod's tod's tod's tod's tod's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today's today today today today to to to to to to to to tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr true the the the the the the the the true the true true today to true true true true true true true. true true true. true. true. true. true true. true. true true. true. true Show with Trevor No. Here's Edition. Let's begin today's episode with the celebration of John Lewis, the civil rights icon who died Friday at the age of 80. All weekend, people were remembering just how extraordinary this man's life was.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Civil Rights icon, an American hero, John Lewis, passing away at the age of 80. As a college student, he helped lead the fight against racial inequality by participating in multiple protests. In 1963, he was just 23, the youngest speaker at the March on Washington, right alongside Martin Luther King Jr. My friend, let us not forget that we are involved in a serious social revolution. Two years later, he would lead peaceful protesters across the Edmund Pettis Bridge, fighting for the right to vote.
Starting point is 00:02:14 They were met with brutal force by state troopers, Lewis, bloodied and with a fractured skull. He would continue his fight as a U.S. representative, known as the conscience of Congress. Hundreds gathering overnight for a candlelight vigil there in Atlanta. An outpouring of tributes for a legend, including from Barack Obama, who credited Lewis with helping to make his presidency possible,
Starting point is 00:02:39 later awarding him the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2011, and now sharing these words. Not many of us get to live to see our own to to the the the the the the to see their their their their their their their their their their their conscience to see their their conscience their to their conscience,, to to their, to their, their, tooancanscansiiolioli, tooomomensensensensensensi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, their, toe, their, the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2011 and now sharing these words. Not many of us get to live to see our own legacy play out in such a meaningful, remarkable way. John Lewis did. Wow. You know you have lived quite a life when you get heartfelt tributes from all across the globe.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And they really did come in from every way. Even from Republican colleagues that said, hey, this guy was an amazing human being who fought for what he believed to play play play play play play play play play play play to play to play to play to play to play the the the the the the the the the the their their the the their the the the the the the the the the, their their the. tho thi out in thioom thoom their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their..... their their. their. I, their. I, the the the the the the toe, toe. I, too. too. too. too. toean. toean. toean. toe. toe. toe. th. thean. the the the the the the come in from everywhere. Even from Republican colleagues that said, hey, this guy was an amazing human being who fought for what he believed in. Although I will say there were a few that were just a little bit off-key. For instance, Mitch McConnell, Senate Majority Leader and what mushrooms would look like if they had faces. He sent out a long statement praising Lewis's sacrifices, but at the same time, he's also been blocking the effort Lewis led to fully restore the Voting Rights Act. So it's a lot like if the Joker wrote a eulogy for Batman.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Some people try to destroy the city he loved or tried to poison him with laughing gas. But I'll always miss Batsy. What? You were the one doing that! I mean, to be fair though, Mitch McConnell always sends a sweet message. the that he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thus. thus. th. th. th. th. th. to be. to be. to be. to be. th. I mean, to be fair, though, Mitch McConnell always sends a sweet message when a black colleague dies because it's one less person he has to keep from voting. But probably the most awkward tribute to John Lewis came from Marco Rubio, Republican senator and guy who could get away with playing little league. On Saturday, Rubio twee twee twee twee twee twee. but with a photo of himself standing with a different deceased black congressman Elijah Cummings. And I'm sorry man but that's just so embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I mean this is the racial version of calling out your ex's name in bed but I guess now I finally understand why Rubio to thioo to an edible arrangement on Don Lemon's birthday. I mean it didn't make sense but I ate that shit and it wasn't just Rubio. Two Republican senators confused John Lewis with Elijah Cummings, which is positively insane because they worked with the man for years. This probably explains why Republicans only have one black guy in Congress at a time. Less chance for confusion. All right, you're the House guy and you're the Senate one. All right, this works. But let's move on to a somewhat less legendary political figure.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Kanye West, hiphop superstar and Kim Kardashian's eldest child. Kanye has been promoting a new album slash presidential campaign and it has not been going great. Kanye West is moving forward with his campaign for president. He held a rally in Charleston, South Carolina yesterday. Arriving on stage with the year 2020 shaved into the back of his head and wearing what appeared to be a military style vest, West appeared to be putting forward policy proposals on the fly.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Everybody that has a baby gets a million dollars or something you haven't had to tea and at one point he broke down into tears while describing how he was nearly aborted by his parents. There would have been no Kanye West because my dad was too busy. I'm going to kill my daughter. I almost killed my daughter. One of the more controversial statements of the night though came when he criticized abolitionist Harriet Tubman. Well Harriet Tubman never actually freed the slaves.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Jesus had the slaves don't work for all the white people. Y'all, we leave it right now. Okay, this is officially the weirdest hip-hop beef of all time. You're gonna go off to Harriet Tubman for not getting the slaves better jobs? What was she supposed to do? Run the Underground Railroad and LinkedIn. I guess congratulations, though. You know, Kanye found a campaign hat
Starting point is 00:06:06 that black people are even less likely to wear than Trumps. And honestly, guys, I don't know what to make of this. I genuinely don't know what to make of this. You know, but because my take away from this event is that Kanye West doesn't seem well. Like, I feel like someone who cares about him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him him the the his microphone away, although ironically the best person for that job is Kanye. The battle for justice in America continues every single day. But if it seems like there's no end in sight,
Starting point is 00:06:32 at least there's progress on some of the smaller issues. Trader Joe's supermarket chain is under fire. It's being urged to change some of the names of its ethnic foods. Over 1,000 people have signed a petition, urging the company to rename products labeled Trader Mings, Trader Hose, and Trader Joes, says they have been in a year's long process of repackaging products and will soon complete the work. We did it.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Black Lives Matter. No justice, no peace. And also renamed the pasta. But look, I get why people complained about how they were branding the foods the foods the foods the foods the foods the foods the foods the foods the foods the foods the foods the foods the pasta. But look, I get why people complained about how they were branding the foods and Trader Joe's. Like, let's be honest, you don't have to call something Trader Mings for them to know that it's Chinese food, right? Just like you don't have to call it Trader Karen's for them to know that it has pumpkin spice in it. So I am glad that they're revamping these labels if this is what people people people people people people people. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr-I. thrador, thi. thi. thrador, thrater, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. th. th. I. the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. thi. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. to. to. to, toe. to, toe. toe. toe. tra. tra. tra. tra. to. to. to. to, to. to. thr is over 60 years old, it's inevitable. The branding is going to become problematic at some point. I mean you should see what honey-nut Cheerios looked like up until last week. Whooofe, they were
Starting point is 00:07:32 dope. That was problematic. Now you may be wondering, what happens to all this food after it gets canceled? Like do they just throw it away? Because I mean that seems like a waste. Well the good news is there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the thi. the thin, thin, their, thin, their, thi. thi. throw it away? Because I mean that seems like a waste. Well, the good news is there's actually a grocery service that gives you the food you need with all of the racial insensitivity you crave. Are you sad because your favorite problematic brands have been cancelled? Aunt Jemima was canceled. Then you need Bigot Basket. Bigot Basket delivers all the brands that you won't find in those PC grocery stores. Products like Gontcha Maima, Uncle Ben, Builder Walnuts, Tucker Carlsonos, and white chocolate. Sure, you could buy the same exact food under a different name, but you have a sophisticated palate and you know food
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Starting point is 00:08:54 there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. So yesterday, President Trump sat down for an interview with Chris Wallace, the only reporter at Fox News who isn't trying to become the next press secretary. And you can tell that he isn't, because this was no softball interview. In fact, it was pretty much a master class in how not to let Trump get away with his usual bullshit. Like you know how Trump is always bragging about how well the United States is doing with the coronavirus?
Starting point is 00:09:47 Well here's what happened when he tried that move with Chris Wallace. I think we have one of the lowest mortality rates in the world. Well we're gonna take a look. We had 900 deaths on a single day. We will take a look. This week. Ready. You can check it out. Could you please get me the mortality the the the the the the mortality?? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the t. t. try. try. try. try. t. try. try. try. try. tre. tre. tre. try. tre. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. to. t. to. to. to. t. t. t. t. the. the. t. the. the. t. the. t. check it out. Could you please get me the mortality rate? Cayley's right here. I heard we have one of the lowest, maybe the lowest mortality rate anywhere in the world. You have the numbers place? Because I heard we had the best mortality rate. Because I heard we have the scenario because it shows what fake news is all about.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Okay. Number number one low mortality rate. I hope you show the scenario because it shows what fake news is all about. Okay, okay. I don't think I'm fake news but I will put our stats on. You said we had the worst mortality rate in the world when we have the best. All right, it's a little complicated but bear with us. We went with numbers from Johns Hopkins University which charted the mortality rate for 20 countries hit by the virus. The US rank seven better than the United th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the thi. th. th. the th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the ta. toge. tipe. the the thi. thi. the the the thi. the the the the the the virus. The US ranked 7th, better than the United Kingdom, but worse than Brazil and Russia. The White House went with this chart from the European CDC, which shows Italy and Spain doing worse, but countries like Brazil and South Korea doing better.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Other countries doing better like Russia aren't included in the White House chart. Oh, you see? Chris Wallace did two things right there that Trump absolutely hates. He proved him wrong and he made him do homework. And the funniest part about this to me, isn't that Trump used a bullshit chart to prove that America has the best mortality rate? It's that even on a bullshit chart, it's still not true.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I mean, if you just want any chart that's gonna show how well you're doing, just go all the way with it. And that wasn't the only time Trump tried to bring receipts that he didn't actually have. Here he is attempting to prove that Joe Biden said he wants to defund the police. They want to defund the police. does not. Look, he signed a charter with Bernie Sanders. I will get that one, just like I was right on the mortality rate. Did you read the charter that he agreed to? It says nothing
Starting point is 00:11:51 about defunding the police. Oh really? It says abolish, it says abolish, let's go. Let's go. Get me the charter, please. Because you've got to start studying for these. He says defund the police. He says defund the police. They th. Get the police. Get the police. Get to defund. Get the police. Get the police. Get the police. Get the police. Get to defund. Get the police. Get to defund. Get the police. Get to defund. Get the police. Get to defund, to defund, to defund, to defund, the police. Get, the police. Get, the police, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get. Get, the police. Get. Get. Get. Get. Get. Get. Get. Get. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do, def-a. Do, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the police. They talk about abolishing the police. They talk about illegal aliens, boring. I look forward to seeing them. Sir, I'm not disagreeing with you on any of those. I'm disagreeing about defund police. The White House never sent us evidence that Bernie Biden platform calls for defunding or abolishing police because there is not. Oh man, I don't care how many times I watch it. It is priceless, seeing Trump flail around, trying to find a fact that he made up. And it actually shows you how his brain just kind of mixes up everything he reads into one big information smoothie.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Because clearly, he read that Biden wants to abolish immigration detention, and he also read that Biden wants police, and then his brain just mashed them up into Biden wants to abolish the police. I kind of want to give Trump a book to read just to see how he would explain it back to me. Green eggs and ham is a tragic story about two eggs that want to marry a ham. They want to get married. They love to the the the o'cler. But again, another great fact check from Chris Wallace.
Starting point is 00:13:05 And I gotta admit, I love Chris Wallace, the journalist. But Chris Wallace, the dad, must be a nightmare. His kids are probably coming home like, Yeah, school is fine. You know, we just did a bunch of work. I just put my head down and worked. Well, actually, I have photo evidence here of you spending all day under the bleachers while making out with Samantha. And th and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and honestly, and th, and th, and th, and th, and to, and I, to to, and I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the, and I the, and I the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the their, all day under the bleachers vaping while making out with Samantha. And honestly, it got to the point where Chris Wallace wasn't
Starting point is 00:13:29 just fact-checking Trump. He was fact-shaming him. Because for years now, Trump has been bragging about what a good score he got on some cognitive ability test. And yesterday, Wallace flat-out told Trump that his test score ain't shit. In the Fox poll, they ask people, who is more competent? Who's got, whose mind is sounder? Iden beats you in that. Well, I tell you what, let's take a test. Let's take a test.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Let's go down. Joe and I will take a test. Let him tak the same test that I took. Incidentally, I took the test too when I heard that you passed it. Yeah, how did you do? Well, it's not the hardest test. No, but the last picture and it says, what's that? And it's an elephant. No, no, no, no, you see, that's all misrepresentation.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Well, that's what it was, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the last five. Well, one of them was count back from a hundred by seven. And let me tell you. And you couldn't answer, you couldn't answer many of the questions. I'd get you the test. I'd like to give it. But I guarantee you that Joe Biden could not answer those questions. Okay. And I answered all 35 questions correctly. Wow, guys. This is sort of making me sad right now. Because Trump is trying so hard to claim he's a genius because he passed a test where you have to identify an elephant. Which let's be honest, even for Trump is too easy. I mean, if they wanted to test Trump,
Starting point is 00:14:56 they shouldn't have asked him to identify an elephant. They should have asked him to identify his second daughter. Yeah, that would have been impressive. Is it this one? No, that's Jared, sir. Okay. But I was close, right? And also, counting back from 100 by 7 is super easy. Anyone can do it. It's 100. 93. Uh. 86. You don't have to be a genius. And you know what, jokes aside? I actually do feel reassured that Trump passed that cognitive test. Because someday, when terrorists threaten to kidnap the Washington monument, unless the
Starting point is 00:15:37 president correctly identifies an elephant, you know Trump's got that shit handled. It's that one. It's the rhino with the long nose. Now, Wallace covered a lot of ground in this interview. But no matter the subject, Trump managed to make it weird. For instance, when Wallace asked Trump about army bases named after Confederate generals, this is what he said.
Starting point is 00:15:58 The National Defense Authorization Act, the NDAA, you have threatened to veto it because in the bill, and this is supported by Republicans as well as Democrats, it would rename Army bases name for Confederate generals. We won two world wars, two world wars, beautiful world wars that were vicious and horrible, and we want them out of Fort Bragg. We want out of all of these forts that now they want to throw those names away. Go to that community where Fort Bragg is in a great state.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I love that state. Go to go to the community. Say, how do you like the idea of renaming Fort Bragg? And then what are we going to name it? You're going to name it after the Reverend Al Sharpton? Okay, I'm sorry, what? Two beautiful world wars? This dude really can't objectify anything. We've had two beautiful, bangable world wars. Totally tens.
Starting point is 00:16:54 That is such a dumb thing to say, that they didn't even think to put something like that on the cognitive test. Should we ask people about both world wars and see if they find them attractive or not? No, forget it. Nobody's brain is that broken. So the elephant should look like this, yeah? Also, how insulting is it to say that people might rename the bases after L. Sharpton? Of course they should rename it after L. Shopton. Think about how terrifying that would be for enemy soldiers. Ah, shizer, here comes the El Sharpton Brigade. They're going to call us out on our races and we're going to get so canceled. This almost goes without saying, but there's a giant middle ground between naming bases after Confederate generals and naming them after
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Starting point is 00:17:58 Because as Trump showed, even when he is already being proven wrong. He still insists that eventually he's going to be right. Dr. Fauci at the beginning said this will pass, don't worry about it, this will pass, he was wrong. But you made mistakes too. I guess everybody make. I was going to say you said at one point. I think we're going to be very good with the coronavirus. I think that at some point that's going to just disappear, I hope. I'll be right right. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the going to sort of just disappear, I hope. I'll be right eventually. I will be right, eventually. You know, I said, it's going to disappear. I'll say it again. But it's going to disappear. Does that discredit you?
Starting point is 00:18:30 And I'll be right. Eventually, I'll be right. That's not how being right works. If you guess the wrong able to say his right than about actually being right. If coronavirus ends up wiping out the entire planet except for Trump, he'll be standing at a podium all by himself saying, you see folks, it totally disappeared, I was right. All right, don't go away, because after the break, I'll be speaking with
Starting point is 00:19:00 former National Security Advisor and Ambassador Susan Rice. And then we'll be talking to Game of Thrones star, Natalie Emmanuel. We'll be right back. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. My first guest is Susan Rice, former National Security Advisor and UN Ambassador for President Obama. And she's also a New York Times best-selling author of the book Tough Love. We spoke about Joe Biden's vice presidential prospects and the legacy of John Lewis. Ambassador Rice, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. It's great to be with you, Trevor.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Thanks. It's a very different way to be with one another. And during this time, I've realized it's also a very different way for us to mourn the passing of people that we admired or cared about. Most recently, John Lewis, when you look at his legacy and his life and what we need to continue doing today, how far do you think we are on continuing that journey and creating that good trouble, as he called it? Well, I hope that John Lewis's legacy will be to give us all a kick in the pants and remind
Starting point is 00:20:38 us that we can be much better than we are today. You know, he had such warmth and such humanity and such courage, and he never, never quit fighting. And he knew that he was leaving us at a moment when we were being sorely tested, when there's the possibility of us finally reckoning as he tried all his life with our historic racial injustices and our deep-seated inequalities that are not only racial but socioeconomic. But it's also a moment where we're struggling with a pandemic that is disproportionately affecting low-income people and people of color, immigrants and and we have
Starting point is 00:21:27 leadership that literally could care less. You were the national security advisor to President Obama. You were part of the pandemic response team. You were part of the people who were tasked with protecting America from a situation just like this. What plans did you have in place that the Trump administration did or didn't use or what should have been done as somebody who was on a task force design just to do this? We understood, as did frankly prior administrations, that pandemics are inevitable. That they, it's hard to predict exactly when they'll come, but we know they will come and they've come repeatedly since 1918. In fact, we had under the
Starting point is 00:22:05 Obama administration in 2009 what was known as the swine flu pandemic, which was quite consequential. So we understood this could happen, so we were prepared. We left the incoming Trump administration with briefing papers and a 69-page playbook, which I like to call pandemics for dummies. It was, here are all the questions and considerations you should run through, if and when you face this kind of crisis. We had a tabletop exercise with the entire incoming Trump cabinet and the outgoing Obama cabinet. And we sat down in one of the scenarios we ran for them turned out to be prescient. It was of such a novel SARS-like virus emerging from China.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And, you know, all of that seemed to be for not, because a couple of years into office, President Trump dismantled the office that I set up on global health security. They trash that playbook or stuck it in some drawer in some shelf and never pulled it out. For two months, January, February and part of March, he really denied the reality of this virus. You know, equated it to the seasonal flu, said it would go away, it was no big deal. And then by that time, you know, it was already well embedded in our country and closing
Starting point is 00:23:33 down flights from China or flights from Europe were too little, too late. And he says that saved, you know, hundreds and millions of lives. Well, it's cost. His mishandling of this has already cost 140,000 lives, and it's going to tragically be many more. It seems like America is one of the few countries where the country doesn't have a rule about wearing mosques. Whereas overseas, you get like the UK, you get so many countries where they're going, hey, we don't care about your personal opinions on this, just like wearing clothes, you have to wear a mask for now and it's as simple as that.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Do you think the federal government should have more of a global message in and around masks? Absolutely. I mean, it's ridiculous that we've allowed small pieces of cotton to be this incredibly divisive thing. We don't mind wearing shirts and pants in public. Why do we have to mind wearing masks in public if it's going to protect ourselves and our loved ones and those in our community. If Donald Trump had from early on said, look, you know, I recognize that it may be a little bit uncomfortable or
Starting point is 00:24:42 inconvenient, but when you're out in public, do as I do, wear a mask, keep your loved ones and yourself safe, keep your city safe. It'll make a huge difference. It'll enable us to bend this curve, keep it down, and get our businesses back up and running, people back to their jobs, kids back to their schools. I don't think we would have had this political reaction to the extent that we have today. How do you view the situation in Portland right now? Because that has thrown many Americans off kilter.
Starting point is 00:25:12 You know, federal officers coming in in unmarked cars, in unmarked uniforms, grabbing people off the streets, throwing them into vans, apprehending them, people feeling like it feels less like a free country and more like an authoritarian regime, you know, for some of the people who are on the ground there. When you look at what's happening, I mean, there's always a balance between a federal response and letting the states handle it or the cities themselves. But how do you view what's happening in Portland right now? Do you think that it's a required use of force or federal federal, or federal, federal assistance or do you think that something has gone off the rails? No, it's
Starting point is 00:25:48 an abuse of power by President Trump and it's a purely politically motivated abuse of power. He's sagging in the polls. He thinks the only way to rally his base is through racism and you know touting law and order. He is sending federal forces out on the streets without markings, without insignia, probably without legal authority to do so. And he's rounding up people as if we were, you know, in Belarus or something. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And, you know, it has nothing to do with their stated mandate of protecting federal buildings and installations. They're now outto do with their stated mandate of protecting federal buildings and installations they're now out literally beating the crap out of peaceful protesters uh... and trying to incite more violence so that they have a an excuse to use more force but here he's now pushing the envelope in portland and threatening to do it elsewhere. And I think Americans need to be on high alert.
Starting point is 00:26:48 This is an abuse of power. It's corruption. It's autocracy on our own shores. There's no denying that your name has come up repeatedly in and around the conversation of vice president. Would you want to serve in the Biden administration? Would you want to serve as a VP? Well, Trevor, what I want is for Joe Biden to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their serve in the Biden administration? Would you want to serve as a VP? Well, Trevor, what I want is for Joe Biden to be elected the next president of the United States. I want us to win the Senate and keep the house so that we have the opportunity to put our country back on course,
Starting point is 00:27:18 and to unite the country, and to deal with the damage that's been done, but also to take this opportunity this opportunity this opportunity this opportunity this opportunity this opportunity this opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the damage the damage the damage the damage the damage the damage the damage the the the the the the the the the the the the to deal with the damage that's been done, but also to take this opportunity and move forward, improve health care, improve education, deal with our underlying disparities. And if I can help in any way, whether it's at the highest levels or some other way, to be part of helping him get elected and to govern if and when he does, then that's what I want to do. And if, you know, if that's not what that's not what that's not what that's not what that's not what that's not what that's not what that's not what that's not what's not what's not what's not what's not what's not what's not what's not what's not what's not what's not what that's not what that's not that's not that's not that's that's that's not that's not that's not that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not what that's not what that's not what that's not what the the the the the the the the the the the that. that's not that. that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not to govern if and when he does, then that's what I want to do. And if, you know, if that's not what he chooses for me, that's fine as well. I will do everything I can regardless because of all that we've
Starting point is 00:27:55 just talked about so much is at stake, we have got to move this country in a different and better direction. And so I'll do anything I can, whether it's the modern-day equivalent of licking envelopes or it's, you know, standing by the side. Well, as you say, I hope America gets back on track. I hope people find a way to depoliticize those little pieces of cotton, and hopefully your words will become prescient when we chat again in a few months.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Ambassador Rice, thank you so much for joining us on the Daily Social Distancing Show. Thanks, Trevor, great to be with you. After the break, I'll be speaking to Natalie Emanuel. You don't want to miss it. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
Starting point is 00:28:46 You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancensing Show. Earlier today, I spoke with Natalie Emanuel, and we spoke about the Black Lives Matter movement in Britain. We also spoke about her new series Die Heart, which is available right now on Quibby. Now in this lesson, we're going to focus and explore the action stars motivations Agent King. What is your motivation?
Starting point is 00:29:27 After working under cover in Paris, I go down to the basement of the Louvre where I thwart the theft of an ancient Egyptian artifact when I'm accosted by a rogue agent. Good. Agent Hart? A cost. Acost. That's a little strong, isn't it? What the focus? Natel, welcome to the daily Focus, focus. Natalie Emmanuel, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Hi, this is so cool. I feel excited to be on the show even though, you know, it's virtually. Congratulations on the new Quibby show, which is, I mean, getting rave reviews and honestly, my favorite quibby show. I know it's a really short format and people are trying to figure out how to make a show in such a
Starting point is 00:30:07 short format but you on the show with Kevin Hart it's called Die Harts and it's honestly one of the funniest and action-packed shows I've ever seen regardless of the platform. Oh thanks so much yeah it was a lot of fun and I think for the for the short platform the format that that that that that that th that th th th th th th th th th th th th th they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they have they they they have they have they have they have they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they have they have tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha that that that that that they have they they they they they they they they they they have think for the short form, the short platform, sorry, format that they have created, I think the show so wonderfully just keeps you on a, like cliffhang up the end of every episode, and you're like, how have they done this? Like it's a short episode, but I wanna click the next one.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And I think they've done such a great job with it. And it was just such a joy to work on. It was, if you find the show funny, like it's safe to say that we laughed a lot when we were making it as well. Right, it's also like a, it's also a cool departure for us've seen you in action movies, like Fast and the Furious, and then we've seen you in like really dramatic roles, I mean, most famously Game of Thrones. And so, like, to see you in a comedy way, you don't take yourself seriously, but in the show, you're trying to take yourself seriously is a fun world to be, and you've got Kevin Hart, who's, the, thrown, and then, the, and, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, to, and, and, and, to, and, and, to, and, and, to, to, and, and, to, to, and, and, and, to, to, to, and, and, to, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to, and, to, to, and, to, and, and, to, to, and, to, and, and, to, and, and, to, to, and, and, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, the, to, the, to, the, the, the, to.. to. to. to. to. to was it like working with the, like just the three of you together in the space
Starting point is 00:31:28 doing something completely new? Well, first of all, for me, I was kind of pinching myself the whole time because I'm standing with Kevin Harton, John Travolta, like what? So that was pretty exciting for me. But to be honest, the three of us together, we had such great chemistry and we had so much fun together. And Kevin is just so, he has so much energy and keeps the laughs all the time just to keep the energy up. You know how on sec and long days and it's cold and damp and you're like, oh, but like he's always so like ready to go
Starting point is 00:32:11 and he was so funny and his genius. And then working with John, I mean, he's like funny in a whole other way, but it's so brilliant and it was just so amazing to watch him work and his range is insane and then you're just definitely all these ideas out and just like you know it's incredible to watch and I had so much fun and we like like I said before we just laughed so much and had a really great time together. You also one of the first people I saw in the UK
Starting point is 00:32:45 who were part of the Black Lives Matter movement like on the ground. I mean, I know, you know, in America we saw this movement, but once it's spread around the globe, I remember seeing you talking about it and you were unabashed about it. You weren't afraid to share your talk about how you were the only woman of color on Game of Thrones as a leading character, as a character, you know, spoken-word character.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And it's, it must be an interesting position to be in, but tell me why you've gotten so involved in this and what you hope to achieve in your industry and hopefully in society at large. Well, I think it's a matter of humanity at this point you know like I'm just like everyone I'm just sick of seeing people dying and I realize that I have a platform and I have an audience and if I can speak out about these things, spread information, share my own experiences, and maybe make a difference in some way, then that's the only way I, that's all I can do. And you know, when it comes to the entertainment industry, I think that we've made some really important leaps and important changes, but there's still a lot of work to the entertainment industry, I think that we've made some really important leaps and
Starting point is 00:34:06 important changes, but there's still a lot of work to do. And I think part of this moment and this movement has resulted in people having the conversations about how many black creatives we are hiring at every level of production. Because it's so easy to sort of do the like, oh well we've got a really diverse inclusive cast in front of the camera and then every level behind the camera isn't really reflective of the world that we live in. And I think that is where we keep falling into these kind of stereotypes and thrope of these kind of stereotypes and troops of these kind of negative depictions of minorities. You know, and I think that for me is the
Starting point is 00:34:53 goal is to sort of spark conversation about the stories and the voices that are in the room not just in front of the camera and I have real ambition to make that change when I am lucky enough to start producing and make the camera and I have real ambition to make that change when I am lucky enough to start producing and making my own things that I have that in like that's just a part of my desire is to hire as inclusively as possible whether it be, race, you know, just everyone. Like you say, the first step is beginning with the conversations, having the intention, and then hopefully creating something where everyone has some equity that represents society at large. So thank you for sharing that. And thank you for coming on the show and thank you for staying healthy and hopefully we'll see you again. Not through a lens. Yes, absolutely thank you so much for having me.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Have a good one Natalie. Thank you so much Natalie. Well that's our show for tonight but before we go America is facing a nationwide poll shortage right now and it's because most poll workers are over 60 and with COVID still in the air, they are understandably not showing up. But the thing is fewer poll workers means fewer polling stations are going to be open and it means that there's going to be longer lines that not everybody can afford to stay and wait in, especially in communities of color. The good news is though, most poll working is paid and in some states you can be as young as 16 to do it. So if you're interested and you have the time, this is your chance to save Granny, protect democracy, and get some of that money too.
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