The Daily Show: Ears Edition - CNN's Democratic Presidential Debates - Night One | Olivia Nuzzi

Episode Date: July 31, 2019

Trevor and Roy Wood Jr. go live after the Democratic primary debate to recap the biggest moments, and New York Magazine's Olivia Nuzzi gives her take on the night. Learn more about your ad-choices at... https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:22 This is exciting, welcome to the show. Now, this was a truly important night for America. A night where the nation tune nation tune nation tune nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation the nation to the the the to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the d. the d. the d. the d. the d. the d. the d. the d. the d. the d. the d. the d. the d. the da. the da. the da. the da. the da. the da.a. to to to to the show. Now, this was a truly important night for America, a night where the nation tuned in to watch one man emerge from a giant field of candidates and achieve a hard-fought victory. That's right. Tonight was the Bachelorette finale. You did the right thing, Hannah. Jed was no good for you. Tonight was, oh yeah, tonight was also an important night because we just finished watching the second Democratic presidential debate.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Now this debate was held in Detroit, Michigan, which is significant for a couple of reasons. First, because Michigan is a major swing state. Secondly, because the Fox Theater is where the debate was held. It's one of the most pivotal moments in presidential campaign history. It's all happening here in downtown Detroit at the Fox Theater. The same debate venue where Donald Trump talked about the size of his hands. He referred to my hands if they're small, something else must be small.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I guarantee you there's no problem, I guarantee it. Oh, that was so embarrassing. Whatever happened to that guy? Now, just like the last time, this was the first of two nights of debates with ten candidates each night. So the format is the same. But there is one major difference. Montana governor, Steve Bullock. He took the spot of Congressman Eric Swawwell, who tragically got caught in a
Starting point is 00:02:40 trap set by candidate poachers. And you may be wondering how they decided which candidates would debate on which night. Well, it was all up to CNN, which means the process was about as ridiculous as possible. Breaking this pile into thirds, putting this in the debate night box here, where I will give it a stir, and we will get going to see when these candidates will be debating. First out of 10 names here is, the, w. Well, w. Well, w. the, w. the, the, the the the the the the the the th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th that, wa, thi. tho, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, w. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thee. theee. thean. the. to is the. toe. the. thean. thean. thean. theeea. the. the. the. get going to see when these candidates will be debating.
Starting point is 00:03:05 First out of 10 names here is Bill DiBlazio, mayor of New York. He ran. He was the campaign manager for Hillary Clinton's successful bid for the Senate in 2000. He'll take the stage on the second night, Wednesday, July 31st. Okay, what? What is going on? I feel like I'm watching bloopers from the courtroom scene in Chernobyl. That's what this feels like. It's like, when we mix Bill DeBlazio with Marian Williamson, it creates a chain reaction, which could destroy an entire city.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Like, I don't know why CNN couldn't just tell us which candidates would go on which nights. Like, if they were going to do this dramatic process, they should have had more fun with it, you know? Like if I was in charge, right? I would have, I would have done it. I've also got a box. Yeah. Yeah, I would have just been like, okay, well let's see over here. We've got Bernie Sanders is going to be debating without pants. There you go. There you go. That's what the debate is going to be. Have more fun! Now, CNN selection and their show may have been weird, but even more weird is the fact that every Democratic debate now comes with commentary from OJ Simpson. Yes, that OJ. You know OJ, the guy who used to star in those Hertz commercials, yes?
Starting point is 00:04:21 Allegedly. And just like he did with the debates in June, OJ was on Twitter today sharing his thoughts on the primary race. As far as the debates are concerned, I saw when one of the people actually put out a plan, something for them to debate the merits of tonight. Now they all should do that. It's easy to say, oh, we should have an affordable health care clans, we should have a chicken in every pot.
Starting point is 00:04:47 All of that sounds good. The question is, how are you going to do it? Oh, I hear what OJ is saying. He's saying, these Democrats can't just show up to the debate without a plan. They've got to premeditate this thing. But enough, enough with the preamble. Let's get to tonight's debates. And it's preamble. Because instead of jumping straight into the debates, CNN started with a long fight night
Starting point is 00:05:11 promo, right? And then an endless stream of all the Democratic candidates shaking hands with each other, which took forever because they're like 50 people on the stage. And secondly, because Marian William Williamson insisted on giving everyone a palm reading just like a spoiler alert you're not going to win Hick and Luper but when the debate part of the debate finally kicked off it began with a number one issue for most democratic voters and Americans at large health care. We can create a universal health care system to give everyone basic health care for free,
Starting point is 00:05:45 and I have a proposal to do it. But we don't have to go around and be the party of subtraction and telling half the country who has private health insurance that they are health insurance is illegal. We have tried this experiment with the insurance companies. And what they've done is they've sucked billions of dollars out of our health care system. When we're talking about health care, we need to talk about more than just the health care plan. We need to realize we have a sickness care rather than a health care system. Medicare for all is comprehensive.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It covers all health care needs for senior citizens. It will finally include dental care, hearing aids, and eyeglasses. Okay, why does Bernie sound like he's pitching health care only for himself? We will cover hearing aids, eyeglasses, and insurance if you slip in the shower. Especially in my downstairs shower where it got that weird part of mildew that gets slippery. The point is it's for everyone. So fundamentally, all the Democrats on tonight's stage, they agreed on the basic idea of universal health care. What they disagreed on, thi thooo the thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the they they they will they will they will they will they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. the. th Democrats on tonight stage, they agreed on the basic idea of universal health care. What they disagreed on was how exactly to do it. On Bernie's end, he was talking about one government-run insurance
Starting point is 00:06:55 system for everyone. On Delaney's end on the spectrum, it was a government plan and the option to also have private health insurance. But basically, it was different flavors of the same thing. You know, it's like on a night where you and your friends agree that you're going to party all night long, and then one of you drinks Red Bull and the other one does cocaine. It's different levels, different levels. But when it came to immigration, tonight's debaters were a lot less clear.
Starting point is 00:07:21 When I am president, illegally crossing the border will still be illegal. We need to expand legal immigration. We need to create a path for citizenship, not just for dreamers. We've got a hundred thousand people showing up at the border right now. If we decriminalize entry, if we get health care to everyone, we'll have multiples of that. Make sure whatever law we have doesn't allow children be snatched from their parents and put in cages. How hard can that be? We've got, I don't know, on the two debate nights we've got a hundred and seventy years of Washington
Starting point is 00:07:51 experience, somehow it seems like that should be fairly fixable. Why is Hick and Luke, why is Hick and Luke asking the other candidates to give him the answers? He's like, guys you guys you guys, you have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys have have have have have have have have have have have th have th th th th thi thus have the the the the the the thi the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi thi thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, a presidential debate, my friend, not an escape the room. He's like, guys, if we put our minds together, shut up! It's on how this works. If Hick and Lupo is elected, he'll be like, I promise that I will go on Yahoo answers to see if anyone knows how to fix this thing. Come on, Hick and Luper's together to solve problems. It's about one person making huge promises they can't get done. Although in Hick and Luper's defense,
Starting point is 00:08:28 maybe he was confused. Because the whole debate surrounding immigration tonight was confusing. At one point, it seemed like the d'economic immigration would still be illegal if they were in the White House. But then it's sort of morphed, and thin' the today the today tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho-s tho-s tho-s tho-s, tho-s, tho-s the. their tho-n-n' tho-n't tho-n't too-n't too-n't too-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n't their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. thin. thin. thi. toda. toda-s toda-s. toda-s. toda-s. toda-s toda-n'eeea-n'ea-n'ea-n'n'n'n't be a crime to sneak across the border into the US. It was a mess. And it's a mess that Donald Trump has successfully started to create. Because you realize, he started painting the Democrats as a party of open borders. And now they're struggling to convey their compassion for asylum seekers without sounding like they want to give visas to ISIS. And in the Democrats' defense, any time one of them tried to make a nuanced argument,
Starting point is 00:09:06 the moderator stepped in to tell them that they were out of time. Those who are insufficiently insured are enrolled in Medicare. And those who have employers sponsored insurance, Jake, this is important. The health care industry will be advertising tonight on this program. Thank you, Congressman. Thank you, Congressman. They the their. The their. The their. The their. The the the the the the thi. The thi. The thi will, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. Thank you, thi. thi. thi is thoer. thiatier. thoer's is to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thuatterterterterterterm. T. T. T. T. T. thath. thathe thathe thate is threate. threate. threaten. the. the. the. theateateateate.. thooooo. thooo Big ideas that we can get done. This state serves. They will see a 40% reduction in their health insurance. They want to know that what it says. If you could all just stick to the rules of the time,
Starting point is 00:09:32 that would be great. Yeah, you tell them, Jake, stick to to make an ad for prescription drugs. It's coming up next. Come on. Voters are watching the debate, like, I don't know who I'm voting for, but I'm going to ask my doctor about Lipitor. I got to talk to him. I'm going to be honest, this is like one of the major things of the night for me. All right? to respond to a policy question, which is great for snappy TV, but it's horrible for policy debates. You know, and it's also a good thing
Starting point is 00:10:08 that CNN doesn't run a restaurant. That would be horrible. Just be like, looking up at the waiter who's Jake Tappie, be like, I'll order the pasta, but I'm allergic to Times Up, thank you very much, their response, but they had time to start some beefs. You support Medicare for All.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Congressman Delaney just referred to it as bad policy, and previously he has called the idea political suicide that will just get President Trump reelected. What do you say to Congressman Delaney? In the last debate, she said, the politicians who are not supporting Medicare for all simply lack the will to fight for it. You do not support Medicare for all. Is Senator Warren correct? Do you just not lack the will to fight? Who on the stage is making promises just to get elected? Ms. Williamson, how do you respond to the criticism from Senator Warren that you're not willing to fight for Medicare for All. I don't know if Senator Warren said that about me specifically. Wow, CNN, you catty bitch.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Half of those questions might as well have been pick three people on the stage. F. Mary Kill. Go. Like I felt like at any moment they were about to go like, oh, by the way, Elizabeth, did you notice that Clobusha totally stole your look? Just saying.. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. thi. Wow. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to the. the. thi. thi. the about to go like, oh by the way Elizabeth, did you notice that Clobyshot totally stole your look? Just saying, just saying. And look don't get me, I'm not saying CNN wanted fights just to gin up the ratings. I'm just saying it was a little suspicious when they even lowered that cage over the stage. And I don't know if it was CNN or if it was the format of the night, but Bernie Sanders in particular, he seemed ready to throw down. Jake, your question is a Republican talking point.
Starting point is 00:11:53 What do you say to Congressman Delaney? You're wrong. You're wrong. I've done that. Maybe you did that and made money off the health care, but our job is to run a non-profit health care system. If we're going to force Americans to make these radical changes, they're not going to go along.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Throw your hands up, but you haven't... You don't know that. We'll talk to you in a second guy. I do know when I going to send someone to the hospital and then pay their entire bill. He was, uh... Woo! The total opposite of Bernie tonight, though, was Marion Williamson. Yeah, she came in with her trademark tranquility and peaceful vibes.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And when it came to issues of race, she got the crowd on her side. We have communities, particularly communities of color and disadvantaged communities, all over this country, who are suffering from environmental injustice. I assure you, I lived in Grosspoint. What happened in Clint would not have happened in Grosspoint. This is part of the dark underbelly of American society. The racism, the bigotry, and if the Democrats don't start saying it, then why would those people feel that they're there for us? And if those people don't feel it, they won't vote for us, and Donald Trump will win.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Wow, Marion Williamson, huh? That was a powerful moment in the debate. I didn't know it was possible for a white woman to get that much attention from black people without calling the cops. That was amazing. She was fired. You see that? It was an amazing night. And for many people, she was the winner of the debate. She came out, she said what she wanted to say, she didn't waste her time.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And all in all, like, I don't think this was the most earth-shattering debate. The timing of the questions felt inconsistent. The candidate's responses weren't crystal clear, and we didn't really learn anything new. One of the only exceptions tonight was Elizabeth Warren, right? She was connecting with the audience. She seemed to be crystal clear every time, and she never seemed off her game. So I think Democrats win when we run on real solutions, not impossible promises. When we run on things that are workable, not fairy tale economics. You know, I don't understand why anybody goes to all the trouble of running for president
Starting point is 00:14:05 of the United States just to talk about what we really can't do and shouldn't fight for. Oh, Warren got Delaney there. She's got a good point. Running for president is about shooting for the moon. Right. When Trump ran for president, he didn't run with incremental ideas. It's like, build a wall. the wall. You know, the thi thi thi' th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. Just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just thi. Just thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeean thean thean thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Just is about shooting for the moon. All right, when Trump ran for president, he didn't run with incremental ideas. It was like, build a wall! Another country will pay for it! Yeah, Obama was like, we can. He wasn't like, oh, we'll see, we'll try. We can. But some of these candidates tonight are like, let's make America 8.5% better than it was yesterday. And that really was the biggest split in the debate tonight. It was Democrats who wanted major systemic change and those who wanted to fiddle in the margins. And I'll be honest, there's only one side that's going to win this.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And it's going to be...sorough what's that? Jake Tapp says I've run out of time. All right, we'll be right back. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the weekly show coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient-to-bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the day show, where we are coming to you live after the Democratic debates. There is so much more to discuss from this debate. The question is, which correspondence should I discuss it with? Well, there's only one way to decide. It's going to be Roywood Jr. with Pants on. With Pants on. Roywood Jr. everybody!
Starting point is 00:16:12 It's for the better, Roy. It's for the better. All right, Roy, we all watch the debates. Everyone has their own feelings. What was your takeaway from tonight's debate? I'll tell you my biggest takeaway, Trevor. There's too many damn people on their goddamn stage. The last time I saw that many people on one stage was when Moonlight and Lala Land
Starting point is 00:16:32 was fighting over an Oscar. This other thing, when you have that many people and, and Jake Tapper's only giving them two seconds to talk, you can't debate policy. It just be the the the the the the the the the their their their their th th was their their th was th th th th th is their you can't debate policy. It just becomes a shouting match, and no one wins a shouting match, except for Bernie. Bernie yells so loud, he damaged his own hearing, which means he has to yell even louder. It's a vicious cycle, brunt. Well, here's some good news for you and many others out there. The debates in September will require higher poll numbers and more unique donors,
Starting point is 00:17:03 which should actually cut the number of candidates in half. Half. Half of two goddamn many is still too damn many. If I if I told Tupac he was only getting shot with half the bullets he wouldn't be like oh gee what a treat it's not good enough. Yeah but okay but right but you have to accept that this is part of the process though well then maybe the process needs to change br. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be toe toe toe toe toe toe of toe of toe of toe of toe of toe of to be will to be will to be will to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tea tea.a.a.a.a.a. Ia. Ia. I'ma.eck. I'ma. I'ma.eck. tre.e.e. tre. toe. the process, though. Well, then maybe the process needs to change, brood. The Democrats need to find the candidate who can go after Trump fast. Can't be wasting time with people polling at 1%. In fact, if you're polling at 1%, you shouldn't even get your own podium. If you're polling at 1%, if you're polling at 1% percent, they should all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all and come up with one answer for everyone.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I don't know, I don't know, Roy, that doesn't seem feasible, man, come on. Okay, okay. Here's another way to cut down on all the people up there. Ten candidates, but only five podiums. And if you can get to a podium, you get to debate. It's a little game that I invented is's called musical podiums. You mean like musical chairs? No, no, no, this is totally different. Okay, look, Roy, Roy, I get why you want to speed the whole thing up, but this isn't about finding out, like just who's the fastest person, what's about finding out who has like the best plan for the nation.
Starting point is 00:18:20 The nation? No one gives us shit about the nation? Come on, African. This is America. Democrats need to pick the candidate who can beat Trump in the swing states. That's all. I'm talking Wisconsin, Pennsylvania. You got to get the cheese people, then you got to win the cheese steak people. But Florida is going to be the most important. Florida you got to make all the candidates take bath salt, see who can handle the cheese steak people. But Florida is gonna be the most important. Florida, you gotta make all the candidates take bath salts, see who can handle their shit. Oh, dude, aren't both salts dangerous? What if the candidates get vials and then like bite each other's faces off? Great.
Starting point is 00:18:56 That's fewer debaters. Two birds, one stone. Roy, Roy, I don't think that they're gonna let the candidatesthe candors get drugged up and tear each other apart on stage. Then this country's in bigger trouble than I thought. Roywood Jr., everyone, we'll be right back. You got some crazy ideas. You can't have the key too. Welcome back to the day's show. My guest tonight is the Washington correspondent for New York magazine who is also co-authoring
Starting point is 00:19:29 a book about the 2020 presidential campaign. Please welcome Olivia Nutsi. So as somebody who is writing a book about 2020, tonight's debate. Do you think that factors in? Is it a domino? Is it anything that shifted the conversation anyway? What was your big takeaway of tonight? Well, I think we won't know what is important two years from now until two years from now, right? We might look back at this debate and say that this was a turning point.
Starting point is 00:19:58 This is when Maryam William Williamson became president. Wow. I'm kidding. Which is for? If you say kidding, off the Trump, anything is possible. So yes. Right. Or we look back and we can barely remember it. We won't know until then. Right. Because there are a lot of moments, even when we were talking about Donald Trump saying his hands at that debate stage that they were on tonight. Right. I mean, I could, if I was, if if if if if if if if if if if if if if I could, if I could, if if I could, if I could, if I could, if I could, if I could, if I could, if I could, if I could, if I could, if I could, if I was, if I was asked, if I was asked, if I was asked, if I was asked, if I was asked, if I was asked, if I was asked, if I was asked, if I was asked, if I was asked, if I was asked, if I was. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th, I would have no idea earlier today. So when you look at just tonight then in isolation, you had 10 people up on that stage who all,
Starting point is 00:20:28 you know were trying to get policy ideas across. Let's start at the basics. Do you think they were successful in doing that? Some of them were. I think it's difficult to see where they differ. There are a lot of similarities with what the similarities, the similarities, the similarities, the similarities, they, the similarities, they, the similarities, they, they, the similarities, they, the similarities, they, the similarities, they, their, they, their, they, thiiolities, thiolities, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th is are are are are, th is are, th is are, th is is th is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is thi, is thi. tooooooan, is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, are, thi, thi, thi, and I think it depends on the personality. I think Elizabeth Warren is very consistent, she talks about the same things in the same way, regardless of where she is, right? And I think somebody like Pete Budajadge is a little bit less talented at getting across what precisely he believes because of the way that he communicates it in an environment
Starting point is 00:21:01 like that. He's more careful with his wording. Yeah. Right. When you look at Merriam Williamson tonight, why do you think she won the debate as they say? Are they saying that? No, I'm saying as a phrase, you know what people say they won the debate. I don't know how you win the debate either. So I think this is something that pundits get to decide, right? And so we, there, th I I I people say anything definitive about something where there is no voting. But that said, I do think she was a very strong performer tonight. And I think it's because she's coming from it. It's not the most diverse crowd up there. Yes. Right. And I think she is genuinely different.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And that helps kind of send her apart and helps her be heard. But I also think the way that she talks about these things, she's not, because the expectations for her so low, they're much lower than they are. No, this is true. I understand what you're saying. They are. Yes. Because you are coming in as a 1% non-politician. No one was like waiting for her to get in the race because they thought she was surely the next president, right? She does not have that in common with Hillary Clinton. But I
Starting point is 00:22:07 think because the expectations are so low, she is kind of freed up, she's able to talk and say what she really means and what she really thinks and she doesn't sound like a consultant clearly or not like any consultant I've ever to the. And so she's able to get at these kind of universal universal, the kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind th. their, their, their, their, th. their, th. their, th. their, thin, thin, their, thin, to to to to to to to their, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their-I. the. the. the. theat, because the. the. theat, because their, because their, because th get at these kind of universal truths in an interesting way. And I think that separates her from people like Pete Boudegge or even Betto or any of the other candidates who are so afraid of screwing up that they sound inhuman. If you were to look at today's debate as foreshadowing for tomorrow's debate. There are 10 other candidates who are now lining up. They've seen how, I think there's even like four backups if they need substitutes. Those candidates have now watched a debate.
Starting point is 00:22:50 They've seen how CNN does it. It's a different style to NBC's. There's a little bit of a different tactic that they use. If you were looking at tomorrow's debate and you were giving advice that they would need to improve on from tonight? Well I wouldn't give advice to any candidates. But if you had to, what would you say? If I had to, I guess I would say to try and not be so stiff. I mean as journalists we want more information all the time, right? That's what we want in general from any politician. And I think that when you talk in this stilted way, when I to, when you're to, when to, when to, when, to, to, to, to, to, toe, to, to, too, too, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, to, to, to, what to, what to say, what to say, what to say, what to say, what to say to say to say to say to say to say to say, to say, to say, to say, I to say, I to say, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I too, I too, too, too, too, they... too, they. too, they. too, too, too, too, they. too, if I too, too, too, too, tooip-towing around, you're not really saying the truth.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And I think people can sense that, and I do think that is part of why Marion Williamson was able to really puncture through in some ways tonight. She really had a powerful breakthrough moments. One thing that was interesting for me is watching how different moderates and how different stations can shape, debate actually plays out. You know, NBC's debate was very different to CNN's one tonight. For instance, NBC would ask questions directly of a candidate just of their policies. It seemed like CNN tonight skewed more towards how do you respond to somebody else's criticism of you during a race, etc., etc. Do you think that is something that a journalist should be doing, or do you think that's just like up to a network? Like how do you how do you figure out a good debate as a journalist?
Starting point is 00:24:06 I don't know I guess the result is what tells us whether or not it was a good debate. Did we learn a lot right? Was the information gleaned during the debate important valuable to voters? Did we see something that we didn't know about about the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their theirseroeruoeruoeruoeruoer? I'm? I'm? I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm theirsesewogeduee. I I was their their their their their their their their theirsesesesese? I I I I Imsewoerunuuuananananananuanuanuanuanuanuanuanuanuanuanuananuanuanuanuanuanuanuanuanu andnu andnogeau. Imsewl. I'm noteatheau. I'm noteathea? teathea? te. te. te. te. I'm toe. I'm te. media being biased in one way or another, to the left or to the right, usually they're talking about it having a liberal bias, which I think can be true in some cases. But I do think that the real bias in the media is towards conflict. It's not about an ideological thing. It's just that journalists look for things that are happening and often in politics what's happening is conflict whether it's inside of a campaign or it's between candidates that is exciting it makes for a good television it makes for a good headline and I think that
Starting point is 00:24:52 oftentimes means that you can't really have much of a conversation because the truth is usually nuanced and it's not black and light right doesn't make for great TV unless you get the people to fight well thank you so much for being on the show.... I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. I. I'm. I'm th. I'm the thi. I'm th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. And their. And the the the the the the the the th. I. I's. I's. I'm th. I'm the. the. the. te. te. I'm. tre. I'm. tre. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th people to fight. Well, thank you so much for being on the show. I'm excited to see what happens tomorrow. Thank you for having to. Olivia Nuzzi, everybody. weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central app. Watch full episodes and videos at the Daily Show.com. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, and subscribe to the Daily Show on YouTube for exclusive content and more.
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