The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Correspondent Spotlight: The Best of Al Madrigal

Episode Date: September 18, 2023

Senior Latino Correspondent Al Madrigal tackles an array of issues, including: Tucson's Mexican-American studies ban, a general lack of opportunity for Latinos in show business, the cultural differences among Chileans, and which unexpected conservative presidential candidate garners Al Madrigal's nod for the Latino vote.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Do Nice Guys Really Finish Last. I'm Tim Harford, host of the Cautionary Tales podcast, and I'm exploring that very question. Join me for my new mini-series on the Art of Fairness. From New York to Tahiti will examine villains undone by their villainy. Monstrous, self-divaring egos and accounts of the extraordinary power of decency. Listen on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. You're listening to Comedy Central. Your children's education. Nothing is more important. You want them to learn enough to do well in the world, but not so much that they can win arguments with you. But, what are they really learning in school? Al Madrigal followed this eye-opening story.

Across the country, public education is failing. But in Arizona, lawmakers have found the solution. Across the country, public education is failing, but in Arizona, lawmakers have found the solution to the biggest problem facing their schools. Arizona's governor Jan Brewer just approved a bill banning ethnic studies classes in public schools. And using this new law, the Tucson School Board banned the K-12 Mexican-American studies program. School Board member Michael Hicks.

My concern was a lot of the radical ideas that they were teaching in these classes, telling these kids that this is their land, the whites took it over, and the only way to get out from the beneath the Gringo, which is the white man, is by bloodshed. When you sat in on these classes, what types of... I chose not to go to any of their classes. Why even go? I based my thoughts on hearsay from others, so I based it off of those. With powerful evidence like hearsay,

the Tucson School Board had little choice but to end the Mexican-American Studies program, protecting kids from dangerous teachers like Curtis Acosta. Our students are much more likely to graduate and go to college. Their test scores have improved, and most of all, they're excited about education so they can pursue it in their future lives. And you do that by teaching them to hate white people. We don't teach them to hate the their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, lives. And you do that by teaching them to hate white people. We don't teach them to hate white people. What we're trying to do is provide a more complex version of what has happened in our past

so that our students are engaged and they can ask themselves critical questions and build their own understanding. Critical thinking, more like critical brainwashing. And it gets worse. They would every week go out and buy burritos and feed these kids. What that does is it builds a more of a bond between the teacher and the students.

Sure, I'm loyal to this guy because he bought me burritos. Right. You slip your burritos to kids, don't you? Why would be giving food to our youth be something that frowned upon? When the program goes away, the burritos go away. That's why these kids are upset. Namas burritos. It's pretty offensive. And now that they've eradicated Mexican-American studies from the schools, they can focus on other ethnicities. Honestly, this law won't be

applied to any other of our courses. It was strictly written for one course, which is the Mexican-American Studies program, and nobody has complained about any of the Pan-Asian or any of the other courses that are being taught. What about the African-American Studies program? The African-American Studies program is still there. It's not teaching the resentment of a race or class of people. I'm a black kid. Try to teach me about slavery without me feeling resentment towards white people. How am I going to teach you about slavery?

Slavery was... How did I end up here? Slavery was a... Okay, now I gotta figure out how. Okay. The white man did bring over the... The, uh, African... And what kind of jobs did we do? The white man did bring over the African- And what kind of jobs did we do?

The jobs that you guys did was basically slavery jobs. So after we were freed, we got to vote? Yes. You got, well, you didn't get to vote until later. And we were equal? Almost equal. What, we were like sort of a half or three-fifths? My personal perception of it, I would say, I would say, you'd the, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the white, the wi-a, the wi-the wi-the wi-the wi-the wi-they-theya'-theya'a, the wia, the, the the of a half or three-fifths? My personal perception of it, I would say you're probably a quarter.

The more he taught me about black history, the more I realized Arizona has figured out the right way to teach it. We now have a black man as a president. You know, Rosa Clark did not take on a gun and go on to a bus and hold up everybody. Sadly the peaceful lessons of Rosa Clark are lost on the radical reactionaries teaching Mexican-American studies. I think this is a great country. In some countries I might be actually locked up for teaching the way I have and well in this country I've just banned from doing it. I'm very close to getting locked up for teaching the way I have. And while in this country, I've just banned from doing it. I'm very close to getting locked up.

Until then, Arizona's children can count on professional educators like Michael Hicks to protect them. Do you think it'll be okay for the school district to have a Mexican-American studies program when the district is 100% Latino? No. But at that point, there'll be no white people left. Well, if there's no more white people in the world, then, okay, then you can do what you want. Oh, don't worry, Mr. Hicks, we will, and we will.

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Wow. Double-digit unemployment for blacks and Latinos. That could really hurt Obama's chances amongst... Well just the Latinos. I mean, no, let's be frank. For more on this, we turn to senior Latino economic analyst Al Magical. Al, thanks for joining us. Al, does 11% in the Latino community put the Latino community in play for this election? I mean it may. But even 11% pales in comparison to the 98% unemployment

Latinos face elsewhere. Well, uh, 98, where? Right here, John. Show business. Televisiones. You're you're Latino and you have a job in show business. Yes, I have the job, John. All right. Do your favorite. Try to name one other Latino on television. Oh, all right, let's uh... Not Geraldo. Okay. Oh. Lopez was canceled, John. Is Whitney? No. Either of the broke broke girls? You think so, but no. Um, desperate housewives with evil Longoria? Yes.

That was canceled. Ah, Dosek's guy. Oh, yeah. The most interesting man. That's right. You know what, the most interesting thing is about that guy? What? His real name is Jonathan Goldsmith.

Yes. Oh, all right. Oh, okay. Sophia Vergara, Modern Family Hit Show, lead role. Now, that does not count because she's hot first, Latina second. But there are still roles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, degrading stuff, stereotype stuff. Latino actors are reduced to hanging out in front of a home depot on La Cienega,

waiting for a producer to pull up with some day work. Next thing you know, you're playing a house painter who can't do anything right. Now you said paint the whole house. Aren't the windows part of the house? Aye, ay, ay, I'm sorry. Who paints the windows? That's what is good writing, but you really brought it to life. All right, forget sitcoms. What about dramatic roles? Yeah, I mean, at this point, Latinos would be lucky to get cast as the second guy killed in some crazy-ass space flick. Uh, don't worry, guys.

I'll check out the cave. It's got my legs! Ah! P! P! P! Phrush! Oh!

Oh! Oh. Oh. What about univision? Oh. What about univision? Telenovas and stuff like that? What about univision? Telenovas and stuff like that? What did you just say? What? Tellenovelas?

The telenovelas? The univision? The telenovelas? I don't speak Spanish. I'm fourth generation. Thank you. Al Magrical, everybody. We'll be right back. Are you...

Before we left, the Senate had finally approved comprehensive immigration reform, leaving it up to the House to push it through, which is basically like asking your cat to take care of your goldfish while you're away. Nothing good is going to happen there. So is this bill going to be Mwerte on arrival? Today the Republican Speaker of the House said immigration reform is not dead even though he appeared to drive a stake through the bipartisan compromise that was passed by the Senate. Ooh! a stake!. So, so th, so th, so th, so th, so that, that, th, that, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, no thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, no thi, no thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii thi thi thi thi thi th stake through the bipartisan compromise that was passed by the Senate. Ooh, a steak! So that bill's not dead. It's undead! Actually that explains why John Boehner has been dressing like blade lately. Of course, jeopardizing the immigration bill could

put some Republicans in a tough spot. Not morally, they truly don't care about that, but much more importantly, politically. I bet Republicans who are thinking about running for president in 2016 might be worried. The Republicans know they need this. If you want to be President of the United States, you have to do better with Latinos than Mitt Romney did. You have to do better with Latinos than Mitt Romney. Oh, that is a low bar, my thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiii. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, th Oh, that is a low bar, my friend. That's like saying, look, I'm just looking for something tastier than Arby's. So, will Republicans pay a penalty for obstructing this bill? For the answer we turn to senior Latino correspondent Al Madrigal.

Al. Al, you are Latino. How is the failure of this bill going to affect your vote? John, that is offensive. You know, I'm so sick of people treating Latinos like some homogenous group that all feel the same way about everything. And you know what, it's even offensive that you'd have me cover this because I'm Latino. Well, hold, wait, to be fair Al, you are the senior Latino correspondent. You're, you're right. And I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiii. thiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. hold, to, whoa, whoa, wait, to be fair, Al, you are the senior Latino correspondent. Oh, you're right, and I'm also the junior Latino correspondent.

You know why? Because I'm the only Latino correspondent on this show, not just now, but also ever. All right? I can't speak for all Latinos. Stop throwing us all together, like some sort of Puerto Rico, the Puerto-Mininininininininininininininininin, the Puerto Rico, the Puerto Rico, the the the thiiiiiiolu— thiol-o, thiol-o, you, you, you are thi, you are thi, you are their, you are their, you are thi, you are thi, you are thi, you are thi, you are thi, you are thi, you are thi, you are thi, you are you are you are you are you are you are you are you are you are you are you are the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, you, you, you are, you are, you are, you are thi, you are thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the thi. You are the the the the the the thin. thin. the thin. thin. theanananananananananananananananananananananan,. Stop throwing us all together like some sort of Puerto Rico Minnican text-mex buffet. Which is not a thing, but it should be because it sounds delicious. Let me explain. Take a look at this chart. See, these are the top issues for a group I'm referring to as all people. Now, compare that to the top issues for Latino people. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, wa, hold.

Can we just look at those two charts? Because that seems to be exactly the same chart. Well, yeah, but I mean, ours is in a spicier font, and thinne. thiiiii. th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho. tho. too, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hoa. to, hoa. to, hoa. to, hoa. to, hoa. to, hoa. to, hoa. to, hoa. to, hold. to, hold. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. too. to. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. to. to. together. to. together. to. to. to. to. to. pigeon races. Okay, yeah, sure, sure, I get it. But let's, let's be fair just for a second now. Even if there is diversity among Latinos, you guys are still politically identified as one group. Yeah, but we shouldn't be. That's like lumping all Europeans together. What if I called you Irish? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. That's offensive. That we are that, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. That's, sure. That's, sure. That's, sure. That's, sure. That's, sure. That's, sure. that, sure. that, sure. that, sure, sure, sure, sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. That. That, sure. That's, sure. That's, sure. That's, sure. That's, sure. That's, sure. That's, that, sure. that's, sure. that's, sure. that, sure. that, sure. that, sure. that, sure. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, sure. Sure. Sure you Irish? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. That's offensive, that we are very different,

and there's also some complicated history between us. We don't look alike, we don't sound alike. Okay, I mean, what if I said you were exactly the same as the French? Oh, really? Do you take that back? Or I will cut your face off. I get it. I get it. I get it.

I get it. See, thank you. Yeah. Okay? That's how a Puerto Rican feels when you call them Dominican or how a Panamanian feels when you call them Honduran. Let me prove it to you. I went out to the street and I spoke to real Latinos about how they feel about other

Latinos. Well, Latinos are all the same except for, you know, like, the Mexicans, really. I usually have issues with like Argentinians. Dominicans and Puerto Ricans don't know how to speak Spanish. Chileans, I don't dig those cats, man, they be eating too much mayo and stuff. I can't be eating with them, you know what I mean? Chileans love mayonnaise. Chileans love mayonnaise. And that's a reason not to like them. That is a big reason. I think Guala Malins have a funny name to begin with.

And my friend, when he was tiny, he used to say that he was from Walla Mala. It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger saying, like, I'm gonna' a chal'a, I'm gonna. I've had the same jar of mayonnaise in my refrigerator for like, seriously two or three years. Nah, man, I have a Chilean in there. It'll be gone in two days. What? I gotta tell you, Al. I had no idea. I had no idea the situation was that serious. Yeah, the Chilean mayonnaise thing is crazy. Third per capita in the world. For meal consumption, after Russia and the USA and the U.S.S. No. No. No. No. No. I. I. I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I have, I have, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I have, the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. have, have, have, have, have, have, the chile, have, crazy. Third per capita in the world! For mail consumption, after Russia and the U.S. Clearly these crazy Chileans think the secret to becoming a world superpowers is just eating mayonnaise.

Hey, guys, do we need a major industry or a strong military? No? Just keep eating the mayonnaise. We'll be number one. Besides, why are we always trapped in these mines? And do we have any fish to eat besides sea bass? Al, Al, I gotta stop you. That is a little bit offensive. Yes, and that's my point. That's why it's so frustrating when people say Latinos can't assimilate here in America. They've already got the most important part down. Hating Latinos. So you're saying stopping the immigration bill won't necessarily hurt Republicans

because they can just appeal to Latinos on other issues. Not really. We'll hold a grudge and never forget that. But I do know how Republicans can keep out Chilean immigrants. They just send them more mayonnaise. That's true you people do love your mayonnaise, huh? What? Hey! Yeah! Hey, relax, relax. We just calm down. You just call me Chilean, Frenchy? What? That's it, you're dead.

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So I said it. Am I president now or what? Are we done here, people? Tick-Tock, I got meetings! Will Clinton's Bold, Immigration, Gambit Sway Latino voters? For the answer, we're joined by senior Latino correspondent, not magical. Ow! to see them, my friend.

This is amazing. No candidate has ever offered, no mainstream candidate has ever offered this much. Eh. It's a path to citizenship, a solid opening offer. Not a bad start, even if her historic immigration speech was delivered in what is clearly the adult circulation room of a public library, I guess she figured, hey, if this is a good enough place for homeless guys to masturbate in, it's a good enough for pandering to Latinos. You know, and they, and they thought public libraries wouldn't last in the internet age. But now, you don't seem, you don't seem inspired? You don't seem, uh... It just feels like we've been down this road before. I also believe we have to give a pathway to citizenship after they have paid a fine and learned English

to those who are already here. And what we actually get? More deportations than ever before. What I'm saying is Democrats shouldn't expect to get Latino support just because they say all the right things, especially since Republicans finally have a candidate Latinos can call their own. That's actually two. They have two. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. Eh, I guess those guys those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those thos who are thos who are thos who are thos who are thos who are thos who are thos who are thos who are thos thos thos thos thos thos thos thos tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. That's actually two. They have two. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. Eh. I guess those guys are technically Latinos. I mean, there's a lot more to being Latino than just being Latino.

You mean, because they're weak on immigration. Well, sure. But mainly because they're Cuban. I ain't really small. And I gotta be honest, a snooty subset. They're like the wasps of the Latino world. You can't expect the bulk of us non-Cuban Latinos to go crazy for two Cuban guys who threw away a path to citizenship for a path to the White House,

especially the one who's actually from Canada. Yeah, that's right. But now I'm confused. So if Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are not the Latinos in the race, who is the Latino in the Republican race? John, listen, and I will tell you a tale of the legend of a candidate for president who speaks fluent Spanish, and as a Mexican wife, who raised Mexican children and regularly leads, Mexican food.

And this man is a Republican. But that's no, it's not possible. John, the legend is real. Yeah. And his name is Yeb. Yep. Yes is Yeb. Yeb? Yes. Yeb! Yes!

Yeb? Or as we call him, El Yeb. I I think actually it's pronounced Jeb, Jeb Bush. Why would I say? You said, hey, yeah, babe. You got a jenny penis. Wait, why did I get that again?

You got it, John, because you don't believe. See, most candidates are scrambling to go after Latinos now, but Yeb Bush started his outreach program in 1974. See? He literally married into the demographic. Well, he married a person, a person who happened to be. Ah, his wife, Colomba Bush represents us all, John, and Yeb knows it. Tell me this man doesn't understand the Mexican-American soul. After church to go prepare for for Sunday, Fun Day in my house. We'll be cooking Iowa with beef and I'll probably make a really good wakamole. Ah, you hear how that wakamole rolls off to Congress. Now all he has to do is come up with, to the table with a meaningful path to citizenship, and he might be the one the time. Now all he has to do is come up with to the table with a

meaningful path to citizenship and he might be the one we've all been waiting for. Yeah he did say wakamole very well but I don't know if you notice he also said Sunday Fun Day. Yeah we really got to work on that might be the widest thing I've ever heard. Thank you, Al. How magical, everybody. Explore more shows from the Daily Show from the Daily Show by searching The Daily Show,

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