The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Danai Gurira on "The Walking Dead" Spinoff | Jason Isbell Discusses His Album "Weathervanes"

Episode Date: February 25, 2024

Host Desi Lydic sits with actress, Danai Gurira, to discuss her role co-creating and executive producing the AMC spinoff "The Walking Dead: The Ones Who Live" and the purpose behind her organization Love Our Girls. Desi also chats with Grammy-winning musician, Jason Isbell, to discuss his new album "Weathervanes" and how he found inspiration while filming "Flowers of the Killer Moon."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Survivor 47 is here, which means we're bringing you a brand new season of the only official survivor podcast on fire. And this season we are joined by fan favorite and Survivor 46 runner-up, Charlie, Charlie, I'm excited to do this together. Thanks, Jeff. So excited to be here, and I can't wait to bring you inside the mind of a survivor player for season 47. Listen to On Fire the official survivor podcast starting September 18th wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. My guest tonight is an actor and playwright who's the co-creator and star of the new AMC miniseries, The Walking Dead, the Ones who Live. Please welcome Deny Guerrera. Thank you. Oh my goodness. That's a good welcome. Thank you. Great time.

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Thank you. And they're happy to see you. Thank you so much for being here. Of course. I am such a fan of your work. You're an incredible actress, and you command such a presence every time you're on screen. These roles that you play, you play these extraordinary,

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Don't take away the katana now. No. Let me hold on to that. Yeah, I think you're managing it. You manage to kill zombies. Can I be in HR with a kat. We don't even have HR here, so our budget got cut. That's not true. We'll edit that part out. What's so interesting to me about this series is that you're not only acting in it,

but you executive produce, you co-created it, you write on it. Was it challenging, just juggling all the hats in one project? Well it was actually it was really cool because from where you start you get a role like what was that like 12 years ago and it's in this show that was massive at the time and it was just like I'm just hoping I can keep this katana in my hand and not drop it and when they're shooting and then to go through this whole arc with the character and the journey she's had, which has been tremendous, and I'm very thankful for how she was written. And then to go into actually creating the spin-off that like completes her story with the man who she loves, with Rick Grimes.

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come together and what happens there. So it really kind of stands on its own. And yeah, it was an interesting journey to actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually to actually to actually to actually to actually to actually to actually to actually to actually to actually to actually to actually to actually to actually to actually to actually to actually get the opportunity because Walking Dead was such a joggernaut of various narratives, big villains and lots of things going on. So to actually step into just these two and their journey and a love story in the apocalypse was it was it was really really fun and intense. Yes you can feel that I can't wait to maybe you would consider sneaking me the rest of the episodes because I don't think I can wait until they come out if you don't mind. I'm looking to it. Yeah it now now the Walking Dead franchise is considered a sci-fi zombie apocalypse but

are you concerned when you look at the state of the world is it becoming a little bit more of a political drama? I think they've been neck-and-neck for like 10 years. Yeah. Well on its way. Yeah. I mean, what I love about the Walking Dead and what attracted me to it because I was scared out of my mind of horror.

But what attracted me to it when I was asked to audition for it in like 2012 was the fact that you know it was about people, characters, like who would, and everyone is like, who would I be if the world................. When toe. When toe. When toe. When toe. When, toe. I, toe. to be, toe. to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I........... Well, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to. Well, to. Well, to. Well, to. Well, to. Well, to. Well, toe. And, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. Well, toe. Well, if the world ended, if everything that was convenient to me and normal to me just was gone and everything was just totally upended. Who would I become? And I think that is actually what attracts people to it. It became like this family show, like we meet people like seven-year-olds, like, seven-year-olds, to see that it was, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their-s.e.e.e.I.I.I.I.I.I. th th th th th th th th th olds to 70-year-olds who are watching it with their family every week. It's how like mothers bonded with their 14-year-olds. I mean, it was kind of amazing to see that it was having that effect. But I think it was really just seeing people, all types of people navigate something that,

you can't imagine, but then you almost can. And then everyone's like, okay, what would I do, what would I become, what I be be be what they've got decked out for the, you know, the bad day that could come. They've got it all in their garage. Oh, Preppers. Oh, yeah. What's the craziest thing that a prepper has ever told you that they're collecting? Oh, wow. Um, that's a good question.

I've heard a lot of peanut butter. Yeah. I collect that, just jars and tubs, I hide it under my bed just in case I want a midnight snack. Listen, there is nothing like a good sput of peanut butter. I've got some under this desk. Do you want some? Actually, I would break out. Your birthday just passed. Happy birthday. Her birthday is on Valentine's Day. Yes.

To celebrate you wrote this beautiful post. What was behind that message and tell us a little bit about the foundation? Yeah, I created Love Our Girls because I just think Valentine's Day is just, it's just such a sucky holiday. What is it really? You know, people are expecting things, like give me roses and candy and like, you know what I mean? But I think it is beautiful in the sense that it's about love.

And I was trying to repurpose it about six, seven, eight years ago when I had a show on Broadway and it was an all-women play. And I just wanted to like say, what if this day that has always been associated with the day I was born so I can never disassociate it it to dis associate to dis associate tothat a lot of the things that they face and the discriminations they face and the struggles they face and the celebrations they face and the celebrations that they face just get more attention on that day. So I decided to make that kind of the theme of the idea of love our girls, which is just like an information hub. It's just about, learn more about what girls and women are their, their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and, and, their, and, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, the, and, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the they.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s. the the the the the the the the the the their, their, and, and, and, the and support them. And you can't create advocates until you create information

or just share information. So that's really all it is. It's just an informational hub to like celebrate women and girls and show them love. Oh, so beautiful. Oh, so beautiful. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, it's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting, you'll be saying to yourself, TGID, thank God it's Thursday. We're going to be talking about all the things that hopefully

obsess you in the same way that they obsess me. The election. Economics. Earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance, it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart wherever you get your podcast. My guest tonight is a Grammy Award winning musician whose latest album is called Weather Vains. He can also be seen in the Oscar-nominated film, Killers of the Flower Moon.

Please welcome Jason Invol! Oh my goodness! Congratulations! You got another Grammy. I did. I got a couple this time. It was crazy. Oh my goodness. Congratulations. Thank you. You got another Grammy. I did. I got a couple this time. It was crazy. Oh my god. This is how many six? This is six. Good Lord. Yeah. Yeah. Well deserved. Well deserved. And not only are you. tho. tho. this. Oh, tho. tho. this is this. this. this. this. this. this. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this. this. this. this. this. this. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is six. Good Lord. Yeah. Yeah. Well deserved. Thank you. Well deserved. And not only are you an accomplished musician, but you are now an incredible actor. You were in Martin Scorsze's Killers of the Flower Moon, which has been nominated for all of the Academy Awards, and you're great in it. Now, did you, did you find that the grind of touring and performing prepared you for the to the the to the the the the to the the the the to, the the the the the the the the the you did you find that the grind of

touring and performing prepared you for the pure stamina you needed to sit through the entire movie start to finish? Yeah I do really good at not peeing and that helped a lot. You're well trained for it. Yeah yeah it was it was an incredible experience to see all that go down. I didn't know why I was there. Oh, no, don't be so much. You're incredible in the film. Well, thank you.

And I do believe they didn't let me screw the movie up. No. But it took a little while for me to had this guy who was like a dialect coach, right? And all day, every day he was working with DiCaprio and with De Niro on talking like this. And I went and met with him and he said, we're just going to hang out. I don't have any notes for you. You just talk like you talk. And I thought, I know why I'm here.

They're saving money on the dollar. There you go. Talent and a budget cut. Two birds. One stone. That's so fine. I also heard that an incident happened on set when you were doing a scene with Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh yeah, yeah, there was an incident. Someone, yeah, do you want to tell it? I could tell you that? Yeah, I would not have volunteered to tell the story. No, I think we should. I have the sense of humor of a 14-year-old boy, so I would love for you to tell the story. Perfect. So, we were in this very small space and we were shooting a scene where the two of us kind of get up in each other's space and it's intense, you know, and we've been doing this for a couple of hours and all of a sudden there were like 30 crew people in the room and me and the camera was rolling the film was happening and all of a sudden

somebody in the crew flatulated he but he flatulated he he said that in the most polite southern way he flat he flat well I shouldn't assume it's a he it could have been a she it very well it could have been a she she it very well. He flat. He flat. Well, I shouldn't assume it's a he. It could have been a she. It very well could have been a she. But whoever it was, you could tell that that person had lost a great battle. Oh, yeah.

You just. Just by the sound of it, you know. And then of course everybody being the best of the best, nobody did anything, nobody would, oh he farted, you know. It was like, later on I called it a farticus situation because they were all willing to take the hit for this. But what happened was I started laughing and DiCaprio started laughing and I thought, oh great, we're doing one of those blooper reels because I've never been in a movie before. You know, I thought this guy farted, this is going to be great. And then he like, like, wove the laugh into his character and all of a sudden it was earnest laughing at Bill and I was

not Bill anymore. I was a redneck laughing at a farting man and I realized this is why one of us has an Oscar. Sure. And the other one is about a budget for an accent. I thought you were going to say that he rolled it into his character and he just said, excuse me, and just went on. And now that's part of the movie. I'm nervous. That's what my guitar players, I'm nervous. I'm nervous.

I imagine when you're on stage, when you're on stage, that if that sort of thing happens one of the band members' farts, then you do. Well, we have cues, you know, it's hard to communicate on stage. So sometimes it's intentional. It's like, oh, that's when we go to the drum solo. Yeah, was this the first time that you ever acted before? Really, yeah, it was. I've done some voiceover stuff for a show called the Squidbilly's show that I loved. Yeah, you got the band here. I was I was I was the the youth

minister on that show. I had gone to Bible school on a cheerleading scholarship so essentially I was just playing myself on that one. Sure. And then I was in the Deadwood movie just standing there in the background because I just loved this show so much that they let me come stand in the background. How generous of them! It was really kind. Yeah, it was really. But this is the first time I'd actually acted like somebody other than myself or a youth

minister. So it was a challenge. You're really, really incredible in the movie. Is it true that you just started auditioning during some downtime during, during, during, during, during, during, during, during, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, thi, thi. And, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they.a.a.a. And, they.a.a. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, true that you just started auditioning during some downtime during during COVID when you put in tour? Yeah, we were locked down, cutting tour and I told my agent if you can find anything where people are working safely and I can keep me busy and do something creative and if there's a good story to tell. So I got an audition, I got another audition, and I wound up on a Zoom call in my bedroom with Scorsesey and De Niro and and and then I got the part yeah it was amazing it was my birthday actually. Oh what a birthday good! Doesn't get any better than that. So I want to talk about weather veins. I heard that you wrote the entire album when you had

downtime on set. Most of that yeah almost? Yeah, almost all of it, I did. Now when I have downtime on set, I play wordle. Yes. I had gone through a lot of wordle. I'd tried, sometimes I'll try everything else except what I should be doing. How did you do that? Did you now have a creative association with your, with the acting process on that film, and the song, and the song, and the song, and the song, and the acting process on that film and the songwriting process? Are they woven in any way?

I think so. But that was incidental, really. You know, I didn't know until I went back and listened to the finished product of the album that I had used a lot of themes and names that happened to line up with the movie, you know, in the song King of Oklahoma, there's a Molly. And that, I that that that th th th th th th th th tho, it tho, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, I the the thi, I was, I was, I was, I was, thi, I was, I was, thin, thin, thin, to to to to to thin, thin. I was, thin, thin, thin... I was, thi. I was, thi. I was, I was. I was, I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was, I. I was, I. I. I. I was, I was, I was, I was, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. toe. toe. toe. toean. toeann. toeann. toeanananananann. thin. th. thin. th, I had no idea that I was spending most of my time with, you know, Lily Gladstone who was playing Molly and it was, it was just getting into my brain. And I kind of, one of the tricks that I have as a songwriter, as I go along, I have eliminated ways of editing myself until it's time to start editing, so I don't slow myself down.

And so if I'm writing a song, I'm not paying attention to much other than just the puzzle of making the words line up. Do you play and write in your head at the same time or do you write first and then how does the process work? How do you not get in your way when you're in the creative flow? You have to remind yourself like am I writing a song or am I editing the song? You know and those you can't th do th do th do th do th do th do th do th do th do th. th. th. th. th. th. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the. the the the the. the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. I the. I the. I the. I theateateate. I theate. I theate. I toe. I theate. I toe. I'm theate. I'm the you can't do those at the same time. I can't, some people probably can, but I usually I'll start by like repeating a phrase. I'll overhear something or I'll think of something and it may be like literally what I'm doing like I might say there's there's not coffee in this and that might well you don't have to get it away I'm sorry they're coffee. Most there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their there's there's there's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their too is. I can can can't is. I will will will will will will will. I can't is. I can't their their their their their their their their their their I'm sorry they cut the budget, okay? We'll get your coffee. Most of my songs are complaints at the end of the day.

But then after a while you just repeat it and and and a melody sort of makes itself happen and then I'll pick up a guitar and start finding the chords. And you know, I kind of look at it like there's a big, huge full of rocks and everything you need is under one of those rocks and it might be under the first rocky pick up but you might have to pick up a million of them but if you just keep trying things eventually you'll get you'll get there. I feel like I'm just just a lifetime of picking up rocks. Keep going. You you have a song called middle of the morning and you you I I I I I I I I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the thi thi the the. the. I the. I the. I the. I the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the th. I th. I th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I the. I the. theeeeeean. thean. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. the. called Middle of the Morning and you talk about being a strong but silent Southern man. Do you feel like the idea of what a Southern man is or

Southern masculinity has evolved in your lifetime? We're trying to evolve that, you know, but evidence sometimes shows the contrary to be true. How so? Well, you know, in my experience, we're not always the best at talking about how we feel, and that makes us not very good at dealing with our emotions. And things will come out in ways that we don't intend them to, you know, when we're not able to say, I am scared or I am sad. And I don't necessarily know that that's a southern thing but but you know it definitely happens a lot in the south and that's where I

came from. Do you hope that your music can kind of act as a solve for young men to grow up and see another way of being? I would like that. You know, it serves a purpose for me initially, but I think if your intentions are honest and you're really trying to communicate with people, then that will happen as a byproduct of what you're doing. And I do. I see a lot of big dudes crying at the shows, and it makes me really happy. It makes me really happy. I think you're making a lot of big dudes cry out here right now.

Don't probably, you can do it. You can do it. This is a safe space, big dudes. Safe space. We can laugh, we can cry. You also are extremely outspoken when it comes to common sense gun laws and advocacy. You wrote a song on your album that's about the fear as a parent that you have in this country that many of us feel sending our kids to school every day. Was that, I can't even imagine how difficult that song was to write? Was it an emotional experience for you? It was hard. The first time I wrote it, I didn't do a very good job because I wasn't saying exactly what I wanted to say, you know.

And when I rewrote it, I got closer to what I meant and then I did it again. And finally I was actually telling the truth. Sometimes that's the process, you know, you want to be vague and you don't want to hit the nail on the head, but this one really called for that. And I went from, when I'm writing about something that something a a a athe best way to do it for me is to go from my own personal perspective. I don't have any experience in a mass shooting situation, so I'm not going to write a song about that. But what I will write about is being at the grocery store and hearing a balloon pop, and the first thing that comes into my mind is, oh my God, is somebody in here with a gun, you know? And I know it is extremely frustrating for a whole lot of people in this country to deal

with. It's, you know, it's something that we shouldn't have to worry about. I think it's something that, you know, is a capitalist issue at heart. I think all those companies that sprung up after the Brady bill was repealed are really kind of pulling the strings right now and selling......... th. And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, their, thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I I, the the the the the the th, th... I I I I I I. I. I. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, their, their, thin, they. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, they. And, they. And, their, repealed are really kind of pulling the strings right now and selling people something that they don't need so they can feel proud of something that they really shouldn't be proud of you know but it's scary it's scary and and having a child you know it does make you think about these things more often it won't necessarily make a good person out of you but if you start one, then it'll make you worry a lot.

Yeah. That's the truth. Cheers. I have to smell. I have to smell. I have to. Well, you're going to say and you're going to perform for us. You're going to perform a song called cast iron skillet. Now I'm from Kentucky, so I'm no stranger to to to to to to to to to to to toe, toe, toe, toe, the the the the the toe, thiolkier, the thiolkier, thiolkiolkiolkiolkiolkiolkiolkiolk, the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thiolk, thiolk, tiefiolk, tiefoomorrow, tiefoomorrow, tiefoomorrow, tieuoomorrow, tieuiolougueuea' siolours. I will will will will. Ie, tiefe, tie Kentucky, so I'm no stranger to southern phrases like, don't wash the cast

iron skillet. That's why I never do the dishes. But these, but you have a way of using these like simple southern phrases, but there's a much deeper meaning underneath. What was the inspiration behind this song? I like to make characters and then follow them around and see what they do. When I start a song I don't necessarily know how it's going to end. I just like to make characters that you can believe and that are honest and then see how they behave as human people would behave.

And sometimes that character is the narrator. Because this has got two, this song has two separate stories. Both of them are true and both of them happened to people to people the people the people the people the people the people to people the people to people the people ue, and both of them happen to people that I was close to when I was a child. And the first story is about a couple of guys that I went to school with, who went down a bad path, wound up murdering somebody going to prison for the rest of their lives. And then the second part is and this was the 80s and the 90s and, you know, they still happen today.

And the narrator is trying to give advice, but it's not really good advice. I mean, here's the secret. You can wash the skillet. You know, it'll be fine, you can wash the skill. A lot of times I'll write a song that has some southern, you know, words of wisdom in it and people say, hey man, that's not exactly right. And I'm like, you're almost there. You're almost understanding the song, you know. I cannot wait for you to perform. I'm very excited. Everyone here is very excited. to do it.

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Thanks, Jeff. So excited to be here, and I can't wait to bring you inside the mind of a survivor player for season 47. Listen to On Fire, the official Survivor podcast starting September 18th, wherever you get your podcasts.