The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Democrats & Abortion Rights Win Big On Election Night | Margo Price

Episode Date: November 9, 2023

Sarah Silverman covers the big election wins for Democrats, and Grace Kuhlenschmidt chimes in on Republicans scrambling to rebrand the pro-life movement in the wake of another state-level vote to protect abortion rights. Chat-GPT is on track to make a billion dollars this year, which is great for them, but not so great for the artists whose work is being used without their credit, consent, or payment. Sarah Silverman digs into why many artists, herself included, are suing AI companies in this week's Long Story Short. Plus, Grammy-nominated singer, songwriter and author Margo Price joins Sarah to discuss how psychedelic experiences led her to quitting alcohol and writing her latest album, “Strays,” what it’s like to be a liberal in the country world, and how writing her memoir “Maybe We’ll Make it” differed from creating music.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John Stewart here, unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show, we're gonna be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. From New York City, the only city in America. It's the show that invented news. This is the Daily Show with I'm Sarah Silverman and I'm back for yet another night of hosting. It's almost like life is this repetitious cycle from which only death can truly release us.

But anyway, who's ready for some fun? It's almost like life is this repetitious cycle from which only death can truly release us. But anyway, who's ready for some fun? Let's get right again. All right, let's get right to it. The big news, there was an election yesterday, maybe you forgot about it, and apparently, so did some Republicans, because Democrats got almost everything they wanted. Overnight Democrats on a winning street scoring victories in Ohio, Kentucky and Virginia in deep red Kentucky Trump-backed candidate Republican Daniel Cameron tried to take down Democratic Governor Andy Bashir by linking him to Biden.

But it didn't work. Thank you, Kentucky! And in Virginia a title wave for Democrats who held on to their state Senate majority and took control the House of Delegates too. A dramatic rebuke of Republican governor Glenn Young and in Philadelphia history was made, Democrat Chirrell Parker becoming the first female mayor in the city of brotherly love. And now to the remarkable story of a man who was in prison for years for a crime he did not commit, Yusuf Salam, known as one of the exonerated five,

has been elected to New York City Council after running unopposed. The beautiful thing about my story is that I was counted out. I was one of those who was pushed into the margins of life. And now we're here right now. Yes. One of the guys who was falsely accused of attacking a Central Park jogger and who Donald Trump said should get the death penalty is now a city councilman.

He went from having his life threatened by Trump to being an elected representative. He's like a reverse Mike Pence. And to this man who has overcome so much and still has the selflessness and the strength of character to turn around and serve this city that falsely imprisoned him, I just want to say, when are you going to do something about the jackhammering? My taxes pay your salary buddy, pick the subways. But yeah, yeah, Democrats were the big winners last night, which means all those human sacrifices were worth it.

Shout out to my fellow Illuminati members, guys, we did it. Democrats are feeling real good. After the results rolled in, I got a Shout out to my fellow Illuminati members, guys, we did it. Democrats are feeling real good. After the results rolled in, I got an email from Nancy Pelosi that wasn't even asking for money. It just said, Sarah, I am so wet right now. Now, elections aren't only about changing which butts or taking up which seats in various fancy rooms. People also get to vote directly on issues that are important to them.

Clearly the biggest takeaway from last night abortion rights again boosting Democrats in key races in both red and blue states. The abortion access is the law of the land in Ohio. In one of the country's most watched swing state races, Ohio wins voting to guarantee abortion access, enshrining that right into the state's constitution. Ohio becoming the seventh state to vote to protect abortion rights since the Supreme Court's ruling last year overturning Roe v. Wade. You put very sexy things like abortion and marijuana on the ballot and a lot of young people

come out and vote. Sexy issues like abortion, what are his porn search words? The fact is, abortion limits have become such a losing issue that some conservatives have reportedly decided the problem isn't pro-life policies but the phrase pro-life. They're looking to rebrand it but personally I think they should be forced to carry this phrase to term. And for more on this conundrum in the pro-life movement let's go live to the Ohio State House with Grace Kulinschman. Hello Grace. The pro-life movement has a real problem here. Even in red states, voters don't like being told what to do with their bodies. I don't know if it's as much of a body

control thing as it is a branding problem. I mean pro-life, yuck. Have you seen life? It's gross. So much mucus! That's why it needs a fun new term that doesn't have all the baggage. Like, instead of pro-life, they could go with pro-parents, or pro-girlpower, or pro-Zendhea. What else is popular? Oh, I know, pro-choice. People seem to love that term. Grace, I think that's one's already taken. That would like cause a lot of confusion, right? Yeah, it would. What a goof. That's why they're also considering slogans that are totally unrelated to abortion, right? Yeah, it would. What a goof.'s why they're also considering slogans that are totally unrelated to abortion, but will naturally appeal to women.

Like, how about pro-shopping? You know how us ladies are, Sarah. That is such a cheap appeal. Women are not stupid. No, they're not. They're probably not. That's why the pro-life movement should consider brand sponsorships, like how sports teams do with stadiums. Maybe people will like the fetal heartbeat law if it's now the smoothie king, fetal heartbeat law. I do love smooth smoothies.

Still, voters don't like to be tricked. They deserve honesty. Yeah, great. Honesty. We're spit-falling down. I love it. What if pro-lifers were just totally honest? Their slogans can be just straight up, your body, our choice.

Or, Handmaid's Tale's Tale, let's try it? Grace, none of that is going to work. People in this country don't want to ban abortion, period. No, it's about the branding. They just haven't figured out the right one yet. But I'm not worried. Republicans are the party of middle-aged white guys who wear socks during sex. They know how to appeal to women.

Right. Grace Kulin Schmidt, everybody. We can actually talk about why I am truly me and I, so don't go away. John Stewart here. Unbelievably. the week. to be the week. John Stewart here.

Unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show, we're gonna be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio, on sandwiches. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the Daily Show. Let's talk about technology. It's great. It mostly makes life easier for humans, and in exchange, we humans try our best to not drop

it into the toilet. But right now, the technology we're talking about is artificial intelligence. Since it came into our lives, we've all been trying to grapple with its larger impact. We're seeing kids use it to cheat in school, we're seeing shitty partners use it for breakups. ChatGBT is even able to pass the legal bar exam, meaning it'll be the first AI to develop an addiction to cocaine. But it might be a good thing that Chat GBT could be a lawyer because a lot of people are taking its ass to court.

This morning, a Game of Thrones erupting over the rights to some of the most popular works in the world. George R.R. Martin and more than a dozen other authors now suing Open AI, creator of Chat GBT. Martin joining forces with authors like JodyP Co., John Grisham, Ellen Hilderbrand, Michael Connolly and David Baldacci to take on the AI giant. And comedian Sarah Silverman is suing open AI and meta. She claims the companies developed artificial intelligence tools that freely copied her memoir, Bedwetter without permission. That's right, mother f-fix. Esteemed writing luminaries like myself and George R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-E-E-E-EaIriiii-Shi-Sh-Sh-Sh-Piiiii-Sh. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. Ieheeheeheedh, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael to-Iiiiiiii-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-P.Sh-Sh-P.S.Chi-P. C.S. C.S.C. C. C.S. C.S.C.C. C.S. C.S.C.C. C writing luminaries like myself and George R.R.R. Martin are suing AI. And I'll tell you why in another installment of Long Story Short.

For as long-sawed as long-siolvent, thrown. For as long as we have had civilization, we've also had art. For over 40,000 years, artists have had a sacred creative process. They sit down to ruminate on the human condition. They pace and they struggle to focus. They get up to get a snack, maybe take a nap, then they work a bit more, so they reward themselves by scrolling Instagram on the toilet for so long they shit again. Then they finally get something on the page and when they ask their partner for feedback,

they get mad when it isn't what they wanted to hear because their partner doesn't get me. Why do I even ask you, you're supposed to support me? Then eventually they buckle down, really do the work and finally, voila, voila, voila, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thuolome, thuilet, thu, thu, thu, thu, th-s, th-s, th-s, thu, their, th-s, th-s, th-s, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th............... And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, the. And, theeat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, really do the work, and finally, voila, tub-thumping. But now, generative AI can eliminate that entire creative process in a matter of seconds. Dolly 2 is artificial intelligence software that can turn anything you type into art in any style. Portrait of a panda in the style of Renoir and boom. While Game of Thrones author George Aramar has had fans waiting years for his next novels, one programmer used chat GPT to generate the long-awaited installments in mere minutes.

A programmer generated his own shitty ending to Game of Thrones. Why waste your time? HBO already did that for you. Here's the thing. Well, AI has helped open many avenues for new works. There's just one problem. They're not new works. What these programs do is scrape text and images from existing works

and feed it into their system in order to create copycats. So when someone wanted to know what a modern Mona Lisa would look like, they just typed it into an AI program and seconds later it pumped out this. That's right. We used this ultra-powerful technological tool to put titties on the Mona Lisa. Congrat Society we did it. to this ultra-powerful technological tool to put titties on the Mona Lisa. Congrats, Society, we did it. And for the record, if we're going to add sweater puppies to a da Vinci painting,

it should have been the last supper. I mean, look at them. Who's going to crucify these melons? Anyway, these programs are not just pumping out busty derivative works of art, they're also printing money. ChatGPT is on track to make a billion dollars just this year alone, which is great for them, but the problem is that these companies are using artist's work without consent or credit or payment. And I've had first-hand experience with this theft because one of the 100,000 books used to train chat GPT was my book, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the of the hundred thousand books used to train chat GPT was my book, The Bedwetter, available wherever books are sold.

And by the way, that book is about my actual life, my jokes, my experiences, my pain, and Chat GPT stole all of it and didn't even have the courtesy to give me Mona Lisa Tits. I haven't seen that artwork. And surprisingly, many of the owners of these AI companies don't seem to be in a giant rush to unpack the moral implications. I bought this for $79, thinking it was the work of a talented artist. But a robot made it. AI software called Mid-Journey, created by David Holtz.

How do you respond to the idea that this is somehow a counterfeit form of artistic expression? Well, we're not really selling art. We have this community that's playing with this technology. Like, the art community already has issues with plagiarism. I don't really want th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. thi. the. th. th. th. this technology. Like the art community already has issues with plagiarism. I don't really want to be involved in that. Like, I mean, I don't know. I think you might be. It might be.

You know what you made. Oh no, you guys aren't gonna use the atomic bomb I made to hurt people, are you? When did Humanity's villains start looking like such beta cucks? I th at what you want about Genghis Khan, but at least he looks like his stomach could handle milk. And this is precisely, well, thank you. This is precisely why you are seeing artists filing lawsuits to protect not only their creative work but the work of future artists. And just to be clear, I'm not looking to shut down AI

or turn the clock back. I just want guardrails so that AI fairly compensates the people whose work comprises its entire brain. This is not anything new. Technological advancements will always require regulation. For example, when technology brought us turntables and music sampling, it helped launch the genre of rap music and brought us lyrical wizards like Biggie and Tupac and Chet Hanks. But back when it

started, it wasn't clear whether sampling was an innovative art form or stealing, but eventually legal guardrails were put in place that helped set how technology could be used to create art and compensate those whose previous works were being used. It's not perfect, but both sides can get what they want. It's why every time you listen to the Jay-Z song Hard Knike Life, those kids from Annie get money so they don't have to live in an orphanage. Everybody wins. So long story short, I'm not saying we should destroy these AI models.

I'm just saying we also need rules to protect artists and their work. And I'm confident we can find a way through this, because artists are resilient. We get knocked down, but we get up again. You're never going to keep us down. When we come back, the incredible, Margot Price will be joining the initiative. John Stewart here. Unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show, we're going to be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio, on sandwiches. Listen to the Daily Show.

My guest tonight is a Grammy-nominated singer, songwriter, and author. She's here to talk about her latest album, Strays, and her memoir, Maybe We'll Make It. Please welcome Margo Price. Malgo. So, oh my god, I thoughts. I thought my phone alarm was on, but it was the music from here. Sorry, my edibles are, boop, kicking it. Happened to me all the time. Um, so your album is about substance abuse. It's about... So, your album is about substance abuse. It's about... from here. I'm sorry, my edibles are, boop, kicking it. Happens to me all the time. So your album is about substance abuse, it's about self-image, it's about abortion

rights, and you wrote it on mushrooms. Was that a revelation in songwriting? Tell me, Spill. It was. I really wanted to shake things up. You know I kind of got my start with this old-school country album, it's called Midwest Farmers Daughter and Jack White put it out and things kindly kind of finally turned around for me. But yeah with this album I just wanted to be able to go out there and not be pigeonholed. Yeah. And but the sylisibin opened your brain up? Did what? I'm like so into this. Yeah it's it's been pretty transformative for me

I the first time I had a psychedelic trip I was 20 years old and I dropped out of college and moved to Nashville highly suggested for anybody who doesn't to get into a student loan debt. But then yeah then the next time I took it I wrote this album and and then the third time that I took it I decided to quit drinking alcohol which had really been a challenge for me and it was kind of after I started reading about Bill Wilson and the work he did with AA and he initially had a psychedelic experience on a plant called Belladonna and they were actually at the very beginning moments of AA they were giving people acid and it was

curing their alcoholism. So I don't know if you're feeling stuck with anything. I will say in my early 20s, ecstasy changed my life. Yeah, MDMA is absolutely incredible for compassion as well. And I, you know, you're honest and you walk the walk, you've been really vocal about gun control, which is, I think, the number one killer of children in this country. And, boy, you even took a detour on the road to vote in Nashville for the mayor. That's right. I was out on tour and it was just a really important election for Nashville.

And so I took off at 10 o'clock at night, got to Nashville at 3 in the morning, woke up at 9, voted and then drove back and played a show in Illinois. What is it like being a liberal in a kind of country world? Yeah, I mean, I definitely don't get invited to all the parties, but that's okay, their parties suck. And, uh, yeah, I think it's been, I like pushing boundaries, I like pushing my limits. I think that if we can have conversations, we live in such polarizing times and really if we could all realize that we're more like than we think. And again, to talk about these things, I want to de-stigmatize psychedelics and just thoughts

on gun control, I think that the only way to do that is by talking about it. Yeah, I agree. He's not different. I mean, I've almost never disliked someone I've actually met face to face. That's right. You have a song called Light Me Up. I've actually met face to face. That's right. That's right. Yeah. You have a song called Light Me Up. Why don't you explain to the audience what it's about, Margo?

Okay, I will. This song was one that we wrote the day after we took a God's dose of mushrooms. And, you know, I was just listening to a lot of songs in the country music world and even in the Americana world and I just wasn't hearing a lot of songs about the female orgasm and I thought we needed to change that so it's a yeah it's just a liberating song about sex and women's pleasure yeah I mean you live in such a time and I live in a place where you know abortion rights and women's bodies are just it they're not our own and I I'm here to show up and and and and fight for what's ours I love it Now, you wrote this book, Maybe We'll Make It, and what was your approach to writing

a book? Is there any similarities to how you approach songwriting? Was it a completely different daunting task? It was daunting, and I know you know, as well. Laying it all out there. I started writing it when I found myself pregnant with my daughter, Ramona, and I was just at home and I couldn't tour. And through the process, it was also kind of when I decided to give up drinking because I was

reading everything from this different place. I was able to give myself a little bit more compassion as I was reading things back. But it was scary to put it all out there. You know, it's everybody I've slept with all the drugs I've ever done. So, sorry, grandma. So, it's interesting because, you know, having written a book, you know, a memoir, it's, you kind of have to really be a detective in your own life. And then you realize that would, that's really good just for everybody to do. Yeah. Because you learned so much from it.

And I think your editor read it and said, gee, it feels like whiskey is the main character of this book. Yeah, yeah, definitely she said that that was like my co-star. And it's true. I mean, I used to drink harder than anybody and that was just kind of the way that I lived. it was like a badge of honor and it was kind of going through that whole time. It's been almost three years now and it's just been completely transformative to give it up and just have all this extra energy. Thank you. I mean I still do drugs. I still do drugs. I still smoke weed. I still smoke weed. I still smoke weed. I've smoke a weed person, you know, like more mind expanding, but I cannot be around drunk people.

Yeah, they're annoying. It turns out. They're super annoying. I find it insufferable. Hold on. Oh wow, you're performing your song Lydia tonight, which I'm so excited about. And it's about abortion and you wrote it before Roe was overturned. So what inspired that?

I was walking around in this town in Canada that was, there was just like a lot of methadone clinics, a lot of people that were really struggling. And so I initially wrote it then and I was kind of scared of the song. I played it for a couple of my friends, and one of them said, man, that song just really sucks the air out of the room. And it doesn't rhyme. And it's like six minutes. So I knew that this was the perfect place to come do a song about a hooker contemplating an abortion. Strays and strays too are available now.

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