The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Did Trump Just Botch His Border Wall Negotiation on Live TV? | Meek Mill

Episode Date: December 12, 2018

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer debate border security with President Trump, Ronny Chieng addresses the addictiveness ofexamines "Fortnite," addiction, and Meek Mill discusses talks prison reform and "...Championships." Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. Hey guys, this is Tom Segura. And I'm Bert Kreischer. And you're listening to Two Bears One Cave, or you should be listening to Two Bears One Cave. We are on Spotify. On Spotify. And we are not smart.
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Starting point is 00:01:13 Oh, so good to be here with you. I can speak just for this period, so I'm enjoying it. Welcome to the show. Our guest tonight, rapper Meek Mill is here, everybody. Really exciting to have him. We're going to be talking about criminal justice reform and maybe even some music. We'll see. But first, let's catch up on today's headlines.
Starting point is 00:01:32 The Supreme Court is working through its term deciding which cases they're going to hear. And yesterday, they dropped a bombshell. Planned Parenthood is applauding the Supreme Court not to hear an appeal in a case involving Medicaid funding. The decision leaves in place a lower court ruling that blocks Louisiana and Kansas from banning Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers from Medicaid programs. The decision reflects a split among conservatives on the bench, Chief Justice John Roberts and New Justice Brett Kavanaugh, siding with the liberals in the decision. Wow. This is a major, major, major news announcement, right. T. the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi-inic. thi-inic. thi-inic thi-inic thi-c. thi-c. thi-c. th. th. th. thi-in. thi-in. thi-in. thi-c, thi-c, thi-c, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. thi-c. thi-c. thi-c. thi-c. thi-in. thi-c. thi-c. thi-c. thi-c. the. the. thea. thea. tauu. ta. tau. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta-c. ta, citing with the liberals in the decision. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:06 This is a major, major news announcement, right? The Supreme Court refused to hear a case attempting to defund Planned Parenthood, which is great news for women's health and very weird news for Brett Kavanaugh fans. Because he was one of the justices who voted not to hear this case. So if you're a pro-choice person, you should be buying bread Kavanaugh a gift right now, and Justice Kavanaugh, I don't know, what would you like?
Starting point is 00:02:31 I still like beer. My man. Mammah. Moving on, school lunches are an important part of America's school system. They keep kids fed, and they keep lunch ladies off the streets. Because if Mrs. Kragel wasn't busy making tater tarts, she'd be out stealing your car stereo people. But now, thanks to President Trump, there are changes coming to the menu.
Starting point is 00:02:52 There's a shake-up coming to the cafeteria. While kids might be excited about it, some parents are not too happy. The Trump administration is scaling back on school lunch standards put in place during the Obama era. The U.S. school lunch program will now include food made mostly of refined grains. The Obama administration only allowed whole grains to be served. Low-fat chocolate milk will also be allowed again. And the Trump administration's new sodium rules are more lenient than before. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:03:24 He's making the food unhealthy. Like, President Trump is taking away school's healthy luncheon require, why would you do this? I guess because maybe he wants kids to grow up to be just like him? What is he doing? Like, next, Melania is going to change her initiative to be obese? Is that what it's going to be? Any child eat the vegetable in front of me. I slept a shit out of them.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Moving on to international news, the British Parliament this week has been working on a vote for their upcoming Brexit deal. And it has been a complete shit show, or as the British call it, a parade of poo. And yesterday, one MP snapped. A liberal member of the House of Commons did this. And yesterday, one MP snapped. A liberal member of the House of Commons did this. He took matters into his own hands by attempting to remove the mace from the chamber. Now the mace is basically a gold crown on a five-foot gold stick. It represents the authority of the Queen in Parliament.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And without the mace in the room, the Queen in Parliament and without the mace in the room they can't meet or pass laws. Okay, put it back. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. Okay. First of all, they can still make the laws, it's just a stick. And secondly, that was the most British heist I've ever seen in my life. He was like, pardon me, I'll be stealing this now, pardon me, and other guys like, actually, sir, please refaring from that. You're right, there you are, good day, good day. And I also liked that the Queen got so sick of showing up in parliament meeting, she was just like, you know what, from now on this stick is in charge.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to spend some tax money on my 14th Corgy. So best of luck to the British Parliament as they navigate Brexit. Although I don't know how you're going to figure out the most complicated breakup of all time if you can't even figure out how to meet the the to meet the to meet to meet the to meet the to meet to meet the to meet the to meet the to meet the the to meet.. to meet. to meet. the to meet. the the the to meet. We's. I. I's. Wea. to meet. I's. I'm to meet. I's. I'm toeck. I'm toeck. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's toe. I's toe. I's toe. I'm toe. toe. toe. I'm toe. I'm t. I'm t. I'm t.a.a. I'm t.a. And t.a.a.a. And t.a.a.a. I'm t. I'm t. I'm t. I'm golden stick in the room. All right, let's move on to our top story. It's Christmas time. And President Trump already knows what he wants from Santa. A big shiny border wall. Although, let's be honest, Santa is not going to give it to him. Because if there's one person who's on the naughty list, it's Trump.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Yeah, Santa's like, oh, you've been a naughty boy this year, Donald. You put children in cages. He's like, oh yeah, I've been so naughty. I've been a bad boy. Are you making this sexual? What is wrong with you? Spank me, Santa. Spank me with the norty list. Ho, ho, hold up.
Starting point is 00:05:59 But because Trump's not going to get his wall from Santa, he only has one other option. Negotiates with the Democrats. President Trump clashing with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer over border security during an explosive sit-down. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, together with the president clashed big time over border wall funding. With a December 21st deadline to avoid a government shutdown, the clock is ticking. The clock is ticking and you send in Donald Trump? Why would you send Donald Trump into defuse a bomb?
Starting point is 00:06:28 He's gonna make it worse. He's gonna make it worse. You'll be like, there are 270 votes left on the countdown. Just like the 270 votes I got in my tremendous electoral car. Did I tell you about the time. They said I couldn't do it folks. But yes, Trump is demanding $5 billion for a border wall. And as you can imagine, Democrats would rather release Obama's original Kenyan birth certificate than give Trump that wall money. Which is why this meeting turned into an absolute mess. You want to shut it down. The last time, Chuck, you shut it down. No, no, no. And then you hope it's very quickly. I don't want to do what th. to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do their. to do to do to do to do to do their their their to do their their their their their their their their their their th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t. to. te. te. te. to. te. to. to. to. to. to. te. to. to. to. to. their. t You keep talking about the last time Chuck you shut it down. No, no, no. And then you open up very quickly. And I don't want to do what you did. You have the vote.
Starting point is 00:07:08 You should pass it down. No, we don't have the vote. Because in the Senate we need 60 votes. And we don't have, if we don't have border security, if we're not going to keep it on. I'm with you. You just said it is effective. Can I be here? I tell you something? Yeah, you just said it's effective. Without a wall. House Democrats who just won a big victory. Elections have consequences, Mr. President. And that's why the country is doing so well. You can do border security without a wall which is wasteful and doesn't solve the problem. It totally solves the problem and we've gained in the Senate. Nancy, we've gained in the Senate. Excuse me, did we win the Senate? We won the Senate.
Starting point is 00:07:52 When the President brags that he won North Dakota and Indiana, he's in real trouble. Okay. Okay. Okay. Why does Chuck Schuma keep talking to the camera? They're having an argument and he's like a character in an episode of the office. He's like, now the president is doing this right now. But honestly, watching these three go at it for 20 minutes, it felt like being in the TV room of a nursing home, which is old people fighting. It's my turn with the remote.
Starting point is 00:08:22 You had the remote yesterday. I don't like Rachel Ray. She's she's, she's, she's, the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. And, thii. And, thi. And, thi. And with the remote. You had the remote yesterday. I don't like Rachel Ray. She's too ethnic. Give me the remote. And my favorite part of this awkward threesome was Mike Pence. Because you might not have even noticed him. Because he didn't say a word. The entire time. He just sat there motionless. Like a guy whose edibles just kicked in. It was like... I mean, you gotta wonder what he was thinking about while everyone was arguing. It's probably just daydreaming about, I don't know, whatever it is that Mike Pence daydreams about. We're gonna keep it over if we have border security.
Starting point is 00:09:03 If we don't have borders, we don't have borders. Yeah, that seems about right. Anyway, this meeting went on for a while, and by the end, they hadn't come any closer to an agreement. And the reason there was so much bickering wasn't just the wall, right? It's that if they don't agree on a government funding bill, it could lead to a partial government shutdown, right, which would mean things like the FDA, the FDA would stop inspecting food plants, right? The SEC would halt new investigations, and hundreds of thousands of government workers
Starting point is 00:09:38 wouldn't get paid, like everything from the FBI, their own, the FBI agents all the way to the TSA. Yeah. And if the TSA doesn't get paid, that might put them in a bad mood. Yeah. That's right, you've been seeing them in a good mood. Whenever you have the airport, that's them in like a really, like, if they're in a bad mood, they're going to be like, hey, do you have a gun on you? and you be like no like, the th no, th no, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi...... thi, thi.... thi.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, thi. thi, thi, thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that, that's that's that's that's that's the. that's that's the. the. the. the. the. the. thi. th politician wants to take the blame for a government shutdown. But Donald Trump is not a politician. Donald Trump is a moron. We do not want to shut down the government.
Starting point is 00:10:12 We want to come to an agreement. We're coming in in good faith to negotiate with you about how we can keep the government open. We disagree. I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck, because the people of this ca, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, the the, the, the, thi, the the tho, and, and, and, and, the the the the the tho, tho, tho, the tho, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, thi.a, thi.a, thi.a, thi.e, the.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. And, t's th.a. And, th. And, th. And, the. And, th. And proud to shut down the government for border security charge because the people of this country don't want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country. So I will take the mental. I will be the one to shut it down. I'm not going to blame you for it. The last time you shut it down it didn't work, I will take the mental of shutting
Starting point is 00:10:40 down. I don't know if you realize how monumental this moment is. Donald Trump just agreed to take blame for something. This is the same guy who keeps Mike Pence around just to blame farts on. You realize that, right? Trump is running around eating hard boiled eggs like, ew, gross Mike, you have a problem. Yes, sir, I'm disgusting. So today, today I'm proud of President Trump because taking blame shows some personal growth on his part. Although if we're being honest, he probably just thinks
Starting point is 00:11:10 that if the government shuts down, there'll be nobody there to impeach him, which is the second thing he Tom Segura. And I'm Burke Kreischer. And you're listening to Two Bears One Cave. Or you should be listening to Two Bears One Cave. We are on Spotify. And we are not smart. That's an understatement.
Starting point is 00:11:37 But you'll have a lot of fun, hopefully. I think you might enjoy it if you give us a listen. If you got your perfect blood work back from your doctor and you have full permission to tie one on, make sure you check out Two Bears One Cave. It's with me, Tom Stegora and my co-hosts, Bert Kreiser, the machine. My shirt's off. Welcome back to the daily show. Some new stories help us understand the world we live in and some new stories are just stupid. For those for those we turn to Ronnie Ch ch ch ch ch ch ch it the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho it tho it tho it tho it to to to it to it to it to it to to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to to to to to to to it's to it's to it's to it's to it's to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the to the to tho. I to. I to. I tie. I try. I tie. I tie tie tie tie tie to to to to to to to to to to to to to the world we live in. And some news stories are just stupid. For those, we turn to Ronnie Chang. Yeah. Thanks, Trevor. The most popular video game right now is fortnight. And why not? It's got everything people love. Hang out with your friends, killing your friends, and dancing over your friends' dead bodies.
Starting point is 00:12:11 But, just like every other thing that's popular, people have started to blame it for all their problems. The popular video game Fortnite now has more than 200 million registered players worldwide. Problem is, experts say it's incredibly addicting. Behavioral health experts have seen an increase in young adults seeking treatment for their addiction to video games. In fact, earlier this year, the World Health Organization recognized gaming disorder as a diagnosable condition.
Starting point is 00:12:51 A British behavioral specialist says Fortnite addiction is like heroin. Okay, fortnight is not like drugs, okay? There's no rock star who died from video games. Elvis wasn't passed out on the toilet with his veins full of Pac-Man. Right? No other for entertainment gets the bad rap that video games do. I mean, why does 20 straight hours of Fortnite mean you're addicted? But binging marvelous Miss Maisel means you're sophisticated.
Starting point is 00:13:17 And so what if I sometimes missed work because I was up all night playing Fortnite? I just tell my idiot boss I lost my voice, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th th th, th th thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, boss I lost my voice like he does all the time. All the time. You have one job. But fine these so-called specialists say it's an addiction and now the innocent kids are paying the price. Some parents are so worried their kids are spending so much time playing the popular game. They're taking a drastic step and sending their kids to video game rehab. Well this year the drug of choice as we call it is fortnight. Michael Jacobus runs reset summer camp a four-week program that focuses on team tech addiction. When kids are at your camp is it like a detox? Yes absolutely. With no devices for a whole month the camp the camp the teauc, the teauc, the the the the thea thea thea theaugh is thea-s is the the the the the the the the tha-s, the the tha-s, the the the the the the the the the the tha-up to to to to tha-up, to to to to to to to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tha-s, tha-s, tha-s, tha-s, tha-s, tha-s, their tha-s, tha-s, tha-a-s, tha-a-s, their their to-s, their their to-a-s, toy-s, toy-s, the camp focuses on therapy and teaching life skills like cooking and laundry.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Okay, cooking and laundry is not rehab. It's what makes you want to play video games in the first place. Okay, no kid has ever been like, hey, washing my filthy clothes is so much fun. I'll never play video games again. If I wanted to cook and do laundry, I played the Sims. And the blame keeps going, because according to some Fortnite, isn't just damaging kids, it's ruining marriages. An online UK divorce service says 200 divorce petitions cited Fortnite this year. That was the reason for the split.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Put the controller down. Don't blame Fortnite for your shitty marriage. You made your wife sit and watch you play fortnight day after day. Until one day, you look over and she's gone. Well, guess where she is now, buddy? She's at my house, watching me play fortnight. Guys, fortnight is harmless fun. In fact, the only place I draw a line is using it to train real killers. You can serve your country and play fortnight. Well, the stars in the the the stars the stars the stars the stars the stars their strikeriiiartier strikenightight is their their their th. thiiorenightight for thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. their. their.a.a.a.a. the their.a.a. the the the th.a. the is forming a team of pro-gamers to compete in tournaments as a
Starting point is 00:15:08 recruitment tool. The plan is actually to have recruiters playing those games in their uniforms at tournaments to provoke questions about their jobs from the players. The only way the Army should use Fortnite is to drop it on ISIS. Then they'll stop playing it 20 hours a day and th and th if th if th if th if th if th if th if th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is to drop it on ISIS, then they'll stop playing it 20 hours a day and we'll have won the war on terror. And that's when we really get to dance. Ronnie Chang, everybody! We'll be right back. Please bring it. does suck. We made a podcast about that. We sure did. There is a super majority of conservative maniacs on the Supreme Court right now really doing some damage. I'm Michael. I'm Riannan. And I'm Peter. Our podcast 5-4 is about all of this.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Every week we dissect and analyze a different ruling that has made our country a little worse, a little more cruel. And you would not believe how many of them there are. Check out 5 to 4. That's that's 5. That's 5. That's 5. That's 5. That's 5. That's 5. That's 5. That's 5. That's 5. That's 5. That's 5. That's 5. the 5. the 5. the 5. the 5. the 5. the 5. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th.there are. Check out five to four. That's the number five, dash the number four, wherever you listen to podcast. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is a multi-platinum award-winning rapper and criminal justice reform advocate whose new album Championships debuted at number one on the Billboard 200 chart. Please welcome, Meek Mill.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Oh, welcome to the show. Thanks for having. Oh, welcome to the show. Thanks for having you. Yo, man, it has been quite a journey. Yeah. Like, I mean, for everybody who's been watching your life, just in what feels like the period of a year,
Starting point is 00:16:53 you've gone from someone who was in prison, looking at spending multiple years behind bars, yeah. To being number one on the billboard charts and being free again. Yeah. Thank God. Are there mornings where you wake up still fearing the idea of going back to jail? Yeah, I wake up every day fearing the their te. I'm on bell.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I don't know if anybody know what that mean if, uh, the Supreme Court overturned my sentence and gave me a chance to actually re-fight the case. I'm originally on probation. I was put on probation for a case at the age of 18, falsely accused. You know where I come from, like, the value of getting arrested was just like, the way we valued ourselves, it was just like a normal thing if a cop blamed someone, you took a deal or you went to court and you lost a case the case, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the case, the case, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho, the their, the their, their, their, their, their, the the the their, their, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and I was, the the the the the the the the the the the the the t t t t t tooe.e.a, the the the the the the the the the the the the tooe.e.e.e.a, the the t t took a deal or you went to court and you lost a case that for something you didn't do. As I got older, I got around like more powerful people and met people around the world where
Starting point is 00:17:52 people violated their self more and one day I always asked my friend like, you think I pointed a gun at three or four cops, he white. I always think I pointed a gun at four or five cops and got away with it without a single shot being fired. And he always used to say no, but I didn't think he understood what I was really saying to him. So, you know, I used to say it all the time and when I actually got sentenced to the two to four years, it stemmed back from what I actually was found guilty for a crime that I did not commit. I don't know if anybody watched like social media, what happens to young black men when you even flash a gun, you don't even have the pointer gun at a police officer in America right now and you know sometimes them situations turn out tragic and you know, as life went on and my cell, you know, I just told my friends like, yo, let's go look at this case from the beginning. Let's go check
Starting point is 00:18:42 into it and we had investigators checking to this case top the bottom. Most of the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the people the beginning. Let's go check into it and we had investigators checking to this case top to bottom. Most of the people that even arrested me, testified on me were found guilty for lying of a criminal activity and actually a bunch of people got let out due to the investigation investigating these police officers. It's interesting that your case and your story became in many ways what opened up a Pandora's box. People talk about how America's criminal justice system is broken. But now it had a face. Meek Mill, here he was, he was successful. He was selling albums.
Starting point is 00:19:16 You know, he was rich. He was doing well. But even he became a victim to the system. Do you think that now, without wanting it, you've now taken on that mantle of the to be to be to be the to be the the to be to be the the the to be the to be the the the the to be to be the the the to be to be to be to be the to be to be to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to bea. toe. toe. tooome. tooompa. tooomomomp. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe.... toe............. I. I.. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toe. toea. toea. toea. toea. Do you think that now, without wanting it, you've now taken on that mantle of being an advocate for criminal justice reform? Yeah, I kind of think it was placed on my lap. It was the basis of it.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Like, people used to say, like, it's not about him. No, it's not about me. It's actually about, I got found guilty at 18 for a crime I didn't do. I'm 31 years old. I never been back to prison for crime ever again in my life. And I was sentenced to a two to four year sentence at 31 years old when I'm at a successful stage in my life. So you've got to imagine people who grow up in bad environments who get put on probation probably for petty things and long-term probation. Right. A lot of people don't realize that the probation it basically re-ups every single time.
Starting point is 00:20:06 So you're basically in this world where it's like, this is your probation, but then something small can happen. You can have an altercation with the cops where you didn't do something wrong, but the cops, and now you go, now it's more and more and more, and you're basically permanently at risk of going to prison. And in this album, I think what's really powerful is, I mean, you've always made music about your life. But Championships is honestly one of the most gripping albums I've ever listened to because you talk about what it's like
Starting point is 00:20:34 to be behind bars. And it's not funny, it's not cool. It's scary, man. You talk about hearing the screams of people being raped in prison. You talk about how prisoners are being treated behind bars by the guards. And in many ways, you remind people that there are humans on the other side of the bars. We always say criminals. But there are humans suffering through this.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Like, does that stick with you when you leave? Yeah it was just a big deal when I got senten to a state sentence and you know a lot of them kids in there was sentenced to state sentence they took deals because they didn't have lawyer money like you know they got a thing a system called public defenders if you can't afford a private attorney. The state will assist you with a public defender. A public defender would go over this case, over your case probably in four or five minutes
Starting point is 00:21:28 and you know, take you in the courtroom. You had to be your life. So most of the times, these kids are charged with 10-20 charges where they're facing 45 years, 30 years, for things that they most likely didn't even do. They end up taking deals for four or five years or three years with a bunch of parole probation and they'll forever be scarred. You won't be able to get a job, you won't be able to attend certain schools. Even me myself, I try to move in certain areas just having an embarrassing record of cops and I'm
Starting point is 00:21:57 pointing a gun at a two police officers, certain areas I couldn't move in. One time my bank account was closed because I had felonies on my record and I'm moving so forward in my life. It just made me want to stand up and speak for people who are caught up in the system and maybe trying to move forward and arrive. When you, just like a lot of people, some people, I heard people say like he's not the face, he shouldn't be the face. I'm I don't want to be the face the face the face the face the face to help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help the the to help to help to help to help to help to help to help to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their the their their to to to to to to their to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thoooooome, the. tooooooooooooooooooooome. toooome. toooome, tooome, the, some. the, not the face, he shouldn't be the face. I'm like, why, I don't want to be the face. I just want to help out and help bring change to the world. Which is amazing. I think that's amazing. Yeah, I like to rap.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I like to take care of my family. Right. Can I ask you a to ask you a question? for a lot of people, you know, popped into their lives because of a beef with Drake. Yeah. Right? It was a huge beef with Drake and there was back to back and this was all going on. Yeah. And then Meek Mill gets arrested, you go to prison, you come out and then you squash the beef with Drake. And you guys genuinely work through it. Not even like a PR thing. You work through it as human beings. When you go to prison, does it feel like a rap beef is just a waste of time? Yeah, basically, prison is... I played ping pong, I played chess, uh...
Starting point is 00:23:11 I read some books. Yeah, it was nothing that I could really benefit from. I already had my path where I was headed to. You know, I employed people, I'm employed myself. I do a lot of charity, so, you know, I wasn't really getting into too many of the programs they had going on. So, you know, I worked on my ping pong, learn how to play chess. Chess tort me patience. No, yeah, it was a waste of time, I feel like, definitely.
Starting point is 00:23:37 When you, when you came out, you immediately went into this world of advocating for the people who spoke to you, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, and too, and too, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, to, to, to, to, to, and, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the the the the the the the the the the the theyyymea.s, theymea.s.s, you.s, you're toea.s, toea.s, toea. toea. toea. toea, the the people who spoke to you. People wrote you letters. Yeah. You know, fans who said to you, hey, you've inspired me, not from prison, but just in life. You've inspired me to get over obstacles. And now you're fighting for America to change its ways. What would you like to see changed in America's prison system? Uh, probation in parole should have standards to it. Me, I've been on probation from 18 years old. I'm 31 years old.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I haven't been in jail since. If I decided to cross the bridge to go to New Jersey without calling my probation officer with forgetting, I could actually go to prison. If I got pulled over or got a traffic ticket, police is a violation. If I come in contact with the police and a judge decides that she she don't like the contact that I came in with police, it doesn't have to involve a crime, it doesn't have to, you could be innocent.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Like I got sentenced to two to four years for Popin' a Willie. I got arrested in New York for Popin' a Willie, which actually they charged me with a F1 felony when I went to court, the case was thrown out, I didn't even get a traffic for the ticket for Popin' a Willie. Right. I still was sent to jail for that, you know what I'm saying? And just police contact on probation is really jail time basically. And for people that look like me and come from, police, the police, their tho' times, their their their thiiiiii's thi's thiiiiiol' thirty is thirty is thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, to thirty, to to to to thirty, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me me, I's to me, I'm to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their thr-a, their their their the thea, thea, thea, thea, their thea, thea, their the Me, I've probably been searched by police 5,000 times in my life. You know what I'm saying? All cops are bad, but I just think
Starting point is 00:25:09 that's a bad dynamic to put people like me in. Bell reform, at one point, I was locked up with a guy. His bell was $100. He spent 28 months in prison. And that was taxpayer money like we had to pay for this guy to be In jail for 28 months because he lorded two times in his life He had a drug addiction. I don't think that was really the proper thing Me being in prison and I know a lot of people hear about prison and it's like the movies. No, it's really like a mental institution. A lot of people are addicts and went to prison for probation violations because they was addicted to opioids, marijuana, cocaine.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And they're put in prisons. I think that the type of things should be handled accordingly. I think people that have addictions should go to rehab. You shouldn't go to a prison. People... I don't think, like, I don't think people really realize how deep it is. Like I used to read comments on when I came home and internet. He broke probation, go to jail.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I'm like, y'all I willy the motorcycle. I don't know if any of y'all got kids that have dirt bikes. I'm in love with dirt bikes. That's what I like to do. I willy the dirt bike. I went from willing to dirt bike to being locked in a cell 23 hours a day with shackles on my ankle on my wrists, not able to be able to contact my family and going through traumatizing things and I'm just like, yo, I'm not a threat to society and nobody that is a threathto society should be placed in these type of conditions because everybody don't make it back from that. Like I'm telling you, you hear men scream, he probably won't never recover from what happened to him in that prison. He probably was locked up for the smallest thing in the world and it's like in America we make it like it's just a normal thing. Some people belong to,
Starting point is 00:27:01 the threaten to to be in jail. We have dangerous people and people who cause harm and don't offer nothing to society. And you also have the 30%, 40% who are here for technical violations and violations and not committing crime. And people who took plea deals because they couldn't afford lawyers and things like that. So you know, it's so many layers to it. Me, I'm here on shows like this to really deliver my experience. to toeahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be shows like this to really deliver my experience of what I went through, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:27 Because American can view me as a normal person. They know I have a job, they know I'm not committing crime. And I'm delivering my message just to the world so we can start on a path of change. Can I tell you, that's something I found interesting is you have an album out. Yeah. And I've watched you go on multiple shows. And you don't seem to need to speak about the album. You don't, you don't push it. You don't, I mean, and it's an amazing album. It's at number one.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I feel like I'm hot. I think I'm hot. No, I mean, it's amazing to see. It's amazing to see because I mean, many, the, th, th, th, th, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, to, to, th, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you don't, you don't, you, you, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to don't, to don't, to don't, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to see because I mean many people would say, hey, I mean, there's a little criminal justice thing, but at the same time, I gotta make my money. But you're out there, it's really, it really is something that's close to your heart. And honestly, I admire that about you as a human being, because it's bigger than money. It's bigger than anything else.
Starting point is 00:28:15 But at therying to explain your innocence, trying to speak up for voices. I have so many people that I was locked up with that are dedicated to me speaking out or trying to even get a voice for people to hear their cries of that situation. So you always know you do a TV interview might be five, ten minutes, ten minutes, 15 minutes, sometimes even two, three minutes. This nerve, this nerve-wrecking even try to think about what I have to say and to compensate the people who don't have a voice or even promote my album. So you know, I just try to freestyle and most of the time we end up talking about justice reform.
Starting point is 00:28:56 So you know, I also want to talk about the music. I want to talk about the state of mind Meek-Mil gets into when he gets back in the studio, where do you find your joy? You know, you come from this place where your freedom is taken away from you, something that, the one thing that human beings need more than anything, their freedom, it's taken away from you. You are reminded of how thinnigh that's that's that's that's that's that's thin that thread is, but you still have to find your joy because the album is not it's not only painful. There's there's bangers as you say. Yeah, people are dancing, you know, it's they're still fun. How do you, how do you, how, where do you find that joy? I never wrote a song in prison. I was so
Starting point is 00:29:35 depressed and stressed out. I couldn't find the time to explain this like on platforms like this. A lot of people hear rap music and sometimes you hear people talk about violence, drugs and things like that. We actually grew up in these environments our whole lives. I'm 31 years old from the age of one year old to 22 years old maybe until I got a record deal. I grew up in a roofless environment. A lot of people, some people grow up in hate. I go up in like the hate the hate the hate the hate the hate the hate the hate the hate the hate the hate the hate the hate the hate the hate thap, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tho, to to to to tho, tho, to to to to to to to to to to tape, tape, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thuals, thuals, thia, thuals, thuals, thuil, thuil, thuil, thuil, thuil, thuilets, thuilets, thuilets, thuilets, thuilets, thuii, thui, thui, thui, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, tha, people grow up in hate. I grew up in like the hate survival area where we've seen a lot of bad. So now I still know people, I have family members who live in that and you know we speak on them things.
Starting point is 00:30:15 It's like a social forecaster. And I just wanted to deliver my message in a way where all America can view and see what we go through coming from where I come from. And I think I'm a good representative because I changed my life around, even growing up in hate and survival mode. And I speak on a lot of things. Like I talk about the opioid addiction in my city where like most young guys do percettes. And I talk about guys getting caught up and being influenced by other guys
Starting point is 00:30:47 and going to jail and losing that freedom by making bad decisions and I also talk about the fun side of my life actually having money, making money and living because sometimes that inspired people too coming from where I come from we never had anything. The first person I seen was Alan I was an Arson, he's the first African American I seen with a real nice car. And where I was at it, nobody really had nothing. And that inspired me to be bigger in life. So, you know, if you see me on Instagram or something and I'm flaunting a little bit, don't take it personal.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I'm just trying to inspire. No, man. Thank you so much. Championships is available now. It is fire. He does every tell everybody. Thank you. Thank you.
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