The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Donald Trump's Dodgy Tax History | Neil deGrasse Tyson

Episode Date: October 4, 2018

Russian trolls may have bashed "The Last Jedi," a probe of Donald Trump's taxes debunks his self-made narrative, and Neil deGrasse Tyson discusses "Accessory to War." Learn more about your ad-choices... at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:32 October 3rd, 2018. From Comedy Central's World News headquarters in New York, this is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Ears Edition. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 00:01:56 Oh! Welcome to the Danish everybody. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. And thank you for tuning in. I'm Trevor Noah. Our guest, our guest tonight, one of the smartest people I know, Neil DeGress Tyson is joining us, everybody. He's got a new book about the partnership between astrophysics and the military. And you know what that means?
Starting point is 00:02:26 Space Force! But first, let's catch up on today's headlines. You know how they say if you don't like your leaders, you should write angry letters to them? Well, some people take it a little too far. The FBI is investigating several suspicious letters sent to President Trump and others that may have contained the toxic compound ricin. Officials say the letter that was addressed the president never entered the White House. Similar letters mailed to the Pentagon were addressed to defense secretary Jim Mattis and the Navy's top officer Admiral John Richardson. A fourth letter was sent to
Starting point is 00:03:00 the Houston campaign office of Senator Ted Cruz but tests there for anything hazardous turned up negative. Okay first of of tho-of-of-of-of-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o' the-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I, I, I, I, I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi-I of Senator Ted Cruz, but tests there for anything hazardous turned up negative. Okay, first of all, thank God no one was hurt. And second, if your plan to harm Donald Trump depends on him reading something, maybe you haven't thought this through. I got a letter, now my head hurts and I'm dizzy. Is this ricin? No, sir, that's words. Also not smart, sending a poison letter to Ted Cruz. They were suspicious right away.
Starting point is 00:03:29 No one writes letters to Ted Cruz. If anything, the poison letter is lucky it never got to Ted Cruz. Because right now, poison would be in the hospital. Like, what happened to you, Poison? I was exposed to Dead Cruz. In other news, if you've been looking for a reason to restock your fallout shelter, this might be it. The EPA is proposing to weaken radiation regulations, suggesting a little bit of radiation is actually good for you, like sunlight. Current guidance says any exposure to radiation is a cancer risk.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Critics warn the proposal could increase harmful exposure for people who work near radiation or live next to Superfund site. Now, now, now, before you start complaining about, the could increase harmful exposure for people who work near radiation or live next to Superfund site. Now, before you start complaining about how it's not safe for the EPA to encourage higher radiation levels, ask yourself one question. Do you want more X-Men movies or not? I rest my case. Moving on, Russia. They've targeted Democrats, Republicans, and now they're
Starting point is 00:04:25 going after one of America's biggest populations, nerds. The Hollywood reporter reports, a new study claims negative buzz about Star Wars, The Last Jedi, is being amplified by Russian trolls. An academic paper finds that half of the criticism aimed at the director of the 2017 installment was politically motivated or not even human. The author, Morton Bay, claims he found evidence of deliberate organized political influence measures disguised as fan arguments. He said a number of users appeared to be Russian trolls.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Okay, I'm sorry, Russian hacking has just gotten ridiculous now. No, because I get them going off the elections, but rotten tomatoes, really? Like, what's next? They'll be hacking their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. I, their, their, their, th. I, th. I, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.................................. I, their, their, th. I, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the th. I's th. I's. I's the going after elections, but rotten tomatoes, really? Like, what's next? They'll be hacking your Airbnb reviews, just like, Susan's building was too uncomfortable. Yeah, vote Trump. Who is this guy?
Starting point is 00:05:14 All right, let's move on to our top story. Over the past four weeks, it feels like everyone has been talking about Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh every single day. Like if you took a shot every time the news mentioned Brett Kavanaugh, you would be Brett Kavanaugh. So, for our own mental health, let's take a break from this madness and talk about something else. Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I don't know if you guys know this, but Donald Trump is the president of the United States. He probably texted you about it today. And one of the reasons, one of the reasons he got that job was that he sold himself as a self-made billionaire who would do for America what he did for himself. And yesterday we found out more about his amazing road to riches. The president has always betrayed himself as a master businessman using the art of the deal to turn a small loan into a global empire. But now a New York Times investigation claims he was actually given a fortune from his father's real estate company, often through quote, dubious tax schemes.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I got a very, very small loan from my father many years ago. I built that into a massive empire and I paid my father back that loan. It's a story Donald Trump has been telling for decades. I started with a million dollar loan. I built a company that's worth more than 10 billion dollars. But reporters for the New York Times who say they examined more than 100,000 pages of documents claim it isn't true. They report Donald Trump's father, Fred, actually lent him at least $60.7 million.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Wait, what? Okay, I don't know about you, but I'm devastated right now. Because the one thing I knew about Donald Trump is that he was a self-made billionaire. And now you're saying that's not real? Like, what's next? You're you're you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're th, you're th, you're th, you're th, you're th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, thu, thu, thu, thr, th' th' th' th' th' th' th' th' th' th' th' th' th' th' th' th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th' th' th' th' th' th' th' th' thin, to to thri, thri, to to thri.a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a, thr. tha, tha knew about Donald Trump is that he was a self-made billionaire. And now you're saying that's not real? Like, what's next? Are you going to tell me that's not his real hair? Huh? But his natural complexion isn't sunset?
Starting point is 00:07:15 Huh? But because this exposes Trump's whole origin story as a lie. And I mean, like, a total lie. This is like finding out that Superman was actually actually actually actually and he can't even fly. It's just an elaborate system of pulleys, okay? Which is still impressive, but not the same. And now look, let's be honest. Let's be honest. I don't think any of us really ever believed that Trump was self-made. We knew that his dad gave him a leg up. But the New York Times has shown that Fred Fred Fred Fred Fred Fred Fred Fred Fred that Fred that Fred that Fred that Fred that Fred that Fred to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the their. their, their, their, their, their, th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their is their is their is their. their is their their their, their, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. t. t. t. t. t. toda. today, the today, the the the the th. th. th. the New York Times has shown that Fred didn't just give Donald a leg up. He was basically all of his limbs. Fred Trump was relentless and creative in finding ways to channel his wealth to his children. He made Donald not just his salaried employee, but also his property manager, landlord, banker,
Starting point is 00:07:57 and consultant. He gave him loan after loan, many of them never repaid. He gave him three trust funds. He gave gave him shares the shares the shares the shares the shares share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share share l l laugheaugheaugheaugheaugheaughea. He. He. He?? He? He? He? He? He? He? He? He. He. He. He th. He? He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He the the the the the the the the the the the th. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He the? He the. He the. He the. He the. He the. He thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the the the the the the thaid. He gave him three trust funds. He gave him shares in multiple partnerships and he gave him laundry revenue from his buildings. He provided money for Donald's car, money for his employees, money to buy stocks, money for his first Manhattan offices and money to renovate those offices. Okay, okay, this is just embarrassing. All right. It's one thing to be a trust fund baby. It's another thing to be a baby baby baby. You're money, you, you, th for money, you, th for money, th for money, th for money, th for money, th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for th for tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi tho tho tho tho tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, their, to be a trust fund baby. It's another thing to be a baby baby, right? You're a 40-year-old man and your daddy is still paying for your office furniture?
Starting point is 00:08:29 Like, did you do anything for yourself, Donald? Did you actually bang those models in the 80s? Or was that your dad, too? Were you in that room like, are you going to give it to me Donald? It's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, to, are, are, are, are, are to, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are to, are, are to, are, are, are to, are to, are to,ing enormous amounts of money to Donald for decades. And it all started before young Donny even knew what money was. According to the investigation, Trump was earning $200,000 in today's dollars by age 3 and was a millionaire by the age of eight. By the time Donald was 17, his father had given him part ownership of a 52 unit apartment building.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Wow, $200,000 as a toddler and a millionaire by the age of eight. That is not normal. That's on no way to grow up. Like it turns everything upside down. I bet Donald Trump never even got bullied because if they ever took his lunch money, the bullies would instantly be in a higher tax bracket. You know? Just be like, I really want to give him a wedgie, but my account says it's not worth it. If we were in the Cayman Islands, boy, you'd be getting it right now. Now, usually, when your parents gift you're millions of dollars, you would need to pay taxes on that, right? A lot of taxes. But these are the Trumps we're talking about, and that's not how they roll.
Starting point is 00:09:48 The New York Times report that indicates President Trump helped his father cheat the federal government and avoid, for years on end, paying millions and millions of dollars in federal taxes. Fred Trump used a sham company to funnel tax-free money to his children. The Trumps manipulated the value of their apartment buildings, claiming they were worth millions of dollars less than fair value. He helped transfer more than $1 billion of his parents' wealth to himself and his siblings. A sum, they report, would have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million. But they say, the family employed a variety of taxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax. tax tax. tax. tax tax. their their their their their their their their their thx. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tax. tax. tax. tax. taxes. taxe. taxe. taxe. tax. tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax taxx tax taxx tax taxes. tax bill of at least $550 million. But they say the family employed a variety of tax dodges, cutting that to $52.2 million.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Sweet Jesus. So according to the Times, Donald Trump, the president, by the way, remember, stole half a billion dollars from the American government. Yeah. It's like if you robbed a bank, and they were like, you know what, we're going the to make the the to make the the to make, their their their the American government. Yeah. It's like if you robbed a bank and then they were like, you know what, we're going to make you the CEO. Yeah. And you know the one part of the story that brings me joy is that in order to pay less,
Starting point is 00:10:52 tax, Trump had to pretend his properties were worth less than they actually were. There must have been such torture for him. See, I shouldn't pay that much. The property is actually not that great. They're the greatest! No, they're not. Don't listen to me. Listen to me! Listen to me! So what this report tells us is that Donald and his dad worked together to defraud the U.S. government for decades. We also learned that Donald needed his father to repeatedly bail out his f businesses. But as it turned out, Donald was so bad at business
Starting point is 00:11:25 that some of his dad's fortune wasn't enough. He needed all of it. With that crucial point in his life, in 1990, we found Donald Trump crafts, in essence, a new will for his father. And then he sends lawyers to his father to his father to have him sign it. His father had no idea this was coming and flipped out. His father looked at this and thought, this is my son who is in incredible trouble right now trying to get control of the empire that I have built. Okay I've heard of the
Starting point is 00:11:57 apple not falling far from the tree. I've never heard of the apple falling off the tree and then trying to take all of the trees money. I'm just saying thoing thoing tho tho tho tho th. I'm just th. I'm just th. th. th. I'm th. th. I'm th. I'm thr-I thr-I thr-I thr-I thr-I thr-I thr-I thr-I thr-in thr-in thr-in thr-in thr-in th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the-in th. the-in the-in the. the-in the-in the-in th the-in th. the-in th. thin thin thin thin thin thin the-in the-in the-in the. the. the. to-s to-a-s. to-s. to-auuuuuuuuuuuuu. thea-s. thea-s. thea-s the. the and then trying to take all of the trees money. I'm just saying that piece of fruit is an asshole. And you're probably wondering what happens now. Well I have bad news for you. Because of the statutes of limitations, the worst that could happen to Trump's tas, but he will definitely not go to prison. Which we should know by now. Trump doesn't the story goes. Like the worst the worst tho tho tho tho's tho's tho's tho's tho's, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thoo. And, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo the story goes. Like, there's a bigger chance we'll all go to prison for Trump's taxes. Yeah, we'll just be in the cell like, I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I did not see this coming. I did not see this coming. And the worst part is, the truc has skyrocketed by $1.6 trillion. So I guess what I'm saying is, we're all Fred Trump now. We'll be right back. Hey, everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, the weekly show coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls.
Starting point is 00:13:06 What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient-to-bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday. Listen to the weekly show where you get your podcast. Welcome back to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the day show. My guest tonight is a renowned astrophysicist, director of the Hayden Planetarium and author
Starting point is 00:13:32 whose new book is called Accessory to War, the unspoken alliance between astrophysics and the military. Please welcome Neil Degrass Tyson. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome back to this show. Thanks for having me back. First things first. What's that? Happy birthday? Oh, this week it's my birthday. Happy birthday. So, but everybody has a birthday every year. So just to specify, this is my 60th.
Starting point is 00:14:15 60? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm the same age as NASA. We were born the same week in 1958. And how are you both doing? We had an ups and downs. Right, right, right, right. We try to keep them mostly up. Things are looking up. We got Neil a little cake from the show and I was like we should make it like a planet. we got you like half a plan. We're like, is it a plan? Is it a plan? Is it gonna judge us for it? It was so much stress. It's a planet. It's like, we should, we should, we should, we's a planet, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like a planet, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a the. the. the the the the the. the planet doesn't like balance so we got you like half a plan and then we're like is it a plan is going to judge us for it. It was so much stress. It's a problem it's a planet somewhere in the universe right not one of ours. Yeah, we can ask you a question like people. Are people intimidated by you because like people? they don't that. Like for instance I'm just hanging out with Pluto because I read a thing where they said like Pluto Pluto might be a planet again and then you're like no it's not a
Starting point is 00:15:06 planet again what's going on with Pluto? Just just get over it. Just get over it it's a try to get it back but it's gonna be really hard. Get over which? Get over which? They're planet, the planet, the Pluto, the Pluto lovers out there that have not, not given up. You say it's like a Pluto lobby out there? They're all, mostly American, because in 1930 when Pluto, the cosmic object was discovered,
Starting point is 00:15:37 right. Disney first drew Pluto the dog. So, yeah, the dog and the and and the former planet have the same sort of tenure in our hearts and mind You say the former planets Yeah What think man this world, you know what I what I've always enjoyed about your work And you know, I mean it the testament to that work is how your book is still on the New York Times as a best seller Oh crazy. Yes, still on the other book. Right, right. Because? the the the book. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. to. tooooooo. too to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to to. the the still on and this showed up next to it. Right, right. Like, because... Yeah, because you make, you make, you say, let me say, we cheer any science book the lands anywhere near the bestseller list. And so, because there's always the political books
Starting point is 00:16:15 that, right, right. Tide Waters bring in and out, in an athlete book and a celebrity book and if a science book shows, I was like, whoa, maybe finally someone will be talking science at the water cooler. Right. And so, my first one is still there, it's 73rd week. It's ridiculous. And this one is there, so it's two books, two science books. And I say it's because you make it so accessible. You try and tie astrophysics to what's happening in And it's for me, it's a sign. It's a sign. It's the other way around. I think you make us interested in the thing.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Because you go, like, interest, I think, is created. We're interested in everything. Oh, that's very sweet of you. Yeah, people always interested in interesting things. Yeah. OK. Yeah. Okay. because you talk about the relationship between astrophysics and the military and way back. Right, going like, but like way way back.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Hundreds, thousands, yeah. So people have always been using, like the military has always been using astrophysics. Well, well, so before the late 19th century, just the term astronomer was it. Right. Later on, we started doing spectroscopy and much more physics so we used the word astrophysics. But basically, people who understood the universe were handmaidens to military conquerers from the beginning. And part of it is you want to know,
Starting point is 00:17:32 especially the seafaring nations, you want to know where the people are who you want to conquer. How do you know where you are on earth? to the astronomers, because we know what the sky looks like from all different parts of the earth and you take that information and infer where you are on earth from it. When you do that, you control the seas, you control the undiscovered lands, you control the lands that people are living in that you are more powerful than when you finally land on the, like Columbus did this. Columbus, he, he, on his fourth voyage, he, he lands on Hispaniola, does what he does, he tries to get back to Spain, he doesn't have enough supplies.
Starting point is 00:18:09 He goes to the natives and say, give me some of your supplies. They said, no, we just have enough for ourselves to get through the next harvest. And he knew that a total lunar eclipse was coming up a week later. And he said, if you do not give not the thu thu thu thu thu thu thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thus thus to thus. thi, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he. He. He. He. He, he, he, he. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he. He, he, he, he, he, he, he's, he's, he's, he's, to. He, he, he, he, he, he, he's, he, he's, he, he, he's, he's, he's, he will, my God will make the moon go away. I'll make it disappear from the sky. And they freaked out. But some of them were skeptical. A week goes by, the moon starts disappearing. They rapidly got their supplies, gave it to him.
Starting point is 00:18:36 He stayed in his cabin till halfway through the eclipse. He then comes out and says, my God is merciful to you for giving me supplies. We will now have the moon return. He's halfway in eclipse. The moon comes out the other side of Earth's shadow. So he exploits, he used knowledge of the universe to exploit people not as knowledgeable as powerful as he was. That is a hilarious story, but I feel like we're skipping over the part where these people died.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Because they don't have food now. Right, right, right. There's nothing written about that. But Columbus successfully gets back, back to Spain. That is a wild, I feel like you could still use those techniques today because a lot of people don't think like that. I feel like I could use that withoday. It could for some, it could, it could, it works.
Starting point is 00:19:27 It ain't working on me, but it could work. Well, you're not my taxi driver, Neil. I mean, if you're my tax driver, you be like, Neil, what happens to the best to know what's going on, Neil. and you have nefarious motives, you can exploit anybody who does not. And so for me, science literacy is so important in modern civilization. So it is inoculation against people who would otherwise exploit your ignorance of the phenomenon of the world. We've come a long way from the days of Columbus, and we're looking at the modern-day military today,
Starting point is 00:20:01 who are still in a relationship with astrophysicists. Yes, we are. You know, Donald Trump has promised us one of the greatest promises the president ever has and that is the development of the space force. Space force. Space force. And the key idea. Yeah, calm down.
Starting point is 00:20:15 The key idea. Yeah, calm down. It's a good. It's okay. You're not calm down. You can not calm down. We're talking about space force. Plus, the way he talked about it. It was, it was, it was bicep flexing. Now, I want to tell from you as a natural physicist how, how feasible is a space force? Like, can you fight wars in space? Is it fighting wars against other countries when the aliens come?
Starting point is 00:20:37 Where would you say we wage the war against Yeah, aliens, I think, just give up all hope. If the aliens come across the galaxy in a ship, and we haven't left, we haven't been past the moon since 1972. They are smarter and more powerful and have better machinery than us. And every example of when that happened in our own species, the one who had less technologically able, ended up up it was bad for them. They were enslaved they would put on reservations. Wow. So all the movies that portray aliens treating us that way I think it's not from act it's not from knowledge that we have we will have any knowledge of the
Starting point is 00:21:19 aliens it's how we know we've treated each other. It is a mirror to our culture and our civilization. How aliens are portrayed in all of these sci-fi movies. So anyway, Space Force, yeah, it would be nice if it could swat aliens out of the sky, but that's not what the goal. So the goal, so the Air Force has a branch of itself called the U.S. Space Command. So there's already military activity in space. It would would the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's thioliolioliolioliolioliolioliolioliolioliolioliolioliolians are th th th thoan's thoan's thiolians are thiolians are thiolians are thiolians are thia is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's the thi. It's the a thi. It's the a thi. It's the a the a the a thi. It's thi. It's there's already military activity in space. It would just sort of an accounting shift. You shift it all out, got its own branch.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And if you're going to do that, I'd throw in asteroid defense. Why not? Throw in, why don't you clean up the debris, the space debris? OK? Now, you're thinking there's like, because there's the junk in space. It's junk in space. That we're bad for our space assets. What's the military to do? You want them to protect your borders, of course, and the normal things the military would do. But how about your assets?
Starting point is 00:22:11 There's assets in space that are worth far beyond the value. the value of the hardware itself. Right. There's satellites that enabled. So the GPS satellites, for example, they were put up by the military. And we figured out how to tap into it. I mean, people figure out to tap into it and use it for conducting business. The entire business model of Uber runs off of GPS satellites. Tinder runs off a GPS satellites, okay? You want to mate in the next 48 hours and get a coordinate system for that? This is how that works.
Starting point is 00:22:46 So now what I'm enjoying. So in the old days, what I'm enjoying right now, is this relationship. So you had an astrophysicist like yourself who was like, I think I've just figured out a way to use space to launch some satellite that can tell us exactly where we are on the earth and the military was like, we can use this to conquer people and someone's like, oh no I know how to smash. That was basically, is that evolution or is that the opposite? What is that? I don't know what that shows the couneless creativity of people when their thiiiii is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thus is like thus. thus. their thus. thus. thus. thus thus. thus. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their is like thus. thus is like thus. thus. th is like thus. thus. thus. thus. thus is like like like thus. thus is like thus is like thus. thus. the is like the is like thean. thauuuuuuu. thauuuu. thau. theus. thean. thean. thean is it important for astrophysics to be part of the military?
Starting point is 00:23:27 Is this something that is a luxury or do you genuinely think that this will determine the future of the world? Here's what happened. We make discoveries and the military looks over the picket fence and say, we want some of that. And then they do things of much higher budget that we couldn't otherwise afford. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It, it, thages, thages, thages, than't, thuages, thuage, thu. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, or, or, or, or, or, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or thi, thu.... So, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thu. thu. theeeean, thuuuu. thuu. thuaa. Keyhole was an idea to put telescopes in orbit that looked down. Masterminded telescope, beautiful telescope, we said, hey, after that got declassified, we want one of those. It became the Hubble Space Telescope, looking up. This is why we, we, we care about the same things the military cares about. Are you ever worried though that the military would use one of your discoveries as an astrophysicist
Starting point is 00:24:07 to do something really horrible on earth? They might do that, but I have no control over that. And so what this book does, it is a discussion. It's an exploration of all the ways we have each crossed each other's street. Either blindly say, give me that, I don't care what you did, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is.............. the, is, is. the, is. the. the, is. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, is, is, is, is, either blindly say, give me that, I don't care what you did with it, or how many, I want that because it'll help me learn about the universe, and vice versa. I don't judge it. I just, I present it and I present it and I present it and I present it,
Starting point is 00:24:32 and I present it and I try to to thrown, war memorials. I used to to thi. and just let Hitler run ramshackle over Europe, you're gonna say, let's rise up. War memorials have soldiers standing proudly, a stride, a steed, brandishing weapons. And I looked at them, and I said, why are they doing this? Because war is bad. But then I realize, no, not all conflict is bad.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Sometimes you have to stand up and fight enemies enemies of civilization. And thi thii th th th th th th th th th th th tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the thean the, the, thean to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, the handmade in to that enterprise ever since the beginning. And this is why they're bestsellers. You make it interesting. Thank you so much for being truly. Accessory to Wall is available now. Neil DeGrafton, everybody. Thank you.
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