The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Dulce Sloan Presents a Primer on Juneteenth | Kimberly Jones & LL Cool J

Episode Date: June 19, 2020

Dulce Sloan shares a Juneteenth history lesson, activist Kimberly Jones discusses "I'm Not Dying with You Tonight," and LL Cool J talks about his Rock the Bells initiative. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of the Daily Social Distancing Show. I'm Trevor Noah and on tonight's episode, L.L. Cool J. is going gonna join us on the show. I chat to Kimberly Jones about Black Lives Matter, and John Bolton has a brand new book out exposing President Trump. But the jokes on you, Bolton, because Trump can't read. So let's catch up on today's headlines. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.

From Trevor's couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the daily social distancing show with Trevor Noah. Ears Edition. Let's kick it off with the Supreme Court. The second highest court in the land after Judge Judy. President Trump has been counting on the court's 5-4 conservative majority to make all of his policy dreams come true. But for the second time this week, the court is saying, not so fast.

We've got breaking news. It comes from the Supreme Court, a decision that's going to impact so-called dreamers. These are people who were brought to this country as children by immigrant parents who were here illegally. Their status has been in limbo as the Trump administration has tried to end a program known as DACA and the court has ruled. The Supreme Court has said that the Trump administration wrongly tried to shut DACA down. So DACA is going to survive, and no one has ever disputed that if President Trump wanted to, he could, by executive order, shut it down.

But that's not what the Trump administration did. Instead, the attorney general at the time, Jeff Sessions, said in his opinion, DACA was illegally started, and so the Department of Homeland Security, based on that guidance, ordered that DACA should be shut down two years ago. And today, the Supreme Court, by a five-to-four decision, said that they went about it, the, the, the, theay the Supreme Court by a five to four decision said that they went about it the wrong way. Wow, what a momentous week for the Supreme Court. On Monday, they ruled that the LGBTQ community are protected by the Civil Rights Act, and then today they announce that Trump can't just arbitrarily decide to end protections for dreamers.

At this rate, tomorrow they're going to announce that Trump retroactively has to to serve to serve to serve to serve to serve to serve to serve to serve to end protections for dreamers. At this rate, tomorrow they're going to announce that Trump retroactively has to serve in Vietnam. Now what's interesting about the court's ruling is that it also said that Trump does have the power to terminate Dhaka, but only if he terminates it in accordance with the process laid out by the Administrative Procedures Act. And basically, to put that in terms that the president would understand, the court has said that you can color Sebastian any color you want, blue, yellow, whatever, but you have to color within the lines.

And for the 650,000 DACA recipients who are currently in limbo, this is truly one of the best pieces of news that they could get. Because it means they can continue working in their jobs, paying taxes and paying to, and not be afraid that tomorrow randomly they could just get kicked out of the country. Now of course President Trump isn't taking the news well. I mean after the decision was announced he tweeted that it was a quote shotgun blast to the face of Republicans and then he asked quote do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesn't like me. Which is crazy. The the the the the the the the the the thuuuuu. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. th. thuuu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thus is not thus. thus is not thus is not thus is not thus is not thus is thus. thus is the is the is the is the is the is the is the is thu is thu is thu is thu is thu is thu is thu is thu is thu is they they they they they they thu is thu is not thu is not thus is not thus is not thus is not thus is not thus is not thus is not thus is not thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. the the the to. the the the the the the the the is not the is the impression that the Supreme Court doesn't like me? Which is crazy. The Supreme Court is not supposed to like you. They're supposed to like the Constitution.

But Trump thinks everything is about him. When the sun goes down at night, he probably thinks it's because him and the sun have beef. Now, while Trump is having a temper tantrum about the Supreme Court, his real fury has been reserved for former national security advisor and full-time got milk ad, John Bolton. Because as you've probably heard by now, Bolton is about to release a tel-all book, spilling all the tea from his time in the White House. And even though the book hasn't come out yet, it's already a riveting read. Bolton confirms President Trump explicitly linked military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military to military military military to military to military to to to their. their. their. their. their. their. their? their. their. their. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. Hea. Hea. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's, tr. He's, tre. He's, tr. He's, tre. He's, tre. He's, true. He's, true. He's, true. He's, t. He's, t. He's, t. t. their. hasn't come out yet, it's already a riveting read. Bolton confirms President Trump explicitly linked military aid to Ukraine to investigations

of former Vice President Joe Biden, the central claim that led to the president being impeached. Bolton alleges President Trump expressed a willingness to halt criminal investigations, to in effect give personal favors to dictators he liked, citing cases involving China and Turkey. At one point telling the Turkish president he would replace Southern District of New York prosecutors to make an investigation into a Turkish firm go away. Foremost on Trump's mind at all times was re-election. One example, says Bolton, the president asking China's President Xi to buy soybeans and wheat

to help win the support of farmers, quote, pleading with Xi to ensure he'd win. Man, that is wild. According to Bolton, Trump's shady dealings with other countries went far beyond Ukraine. He was promising to personally kill any investigations into Turkish companies and he was begging China to help him win re-election. And you know, that's not just corrupt, it's also really embarrassing. Because Bolton's book makes Trump sound less like a president and more like a crackhead who's out of cash. Come on, Xi, just help me get one more term, just give me one more term and I'll suck. You're did I tell you, did I tell th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the their th th their th their their th their th th th their thi thi thi thi thi their thi their their thi their their thi thi their thi thi th. And he th. And he th. And he heing th. And he th. And he their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi thi thi thi thi teeeeeean. And he was tean. And tean tean tean tea' tea' teck. And te. And the. And on, gee, just help me get one more term.

Just give me one more term, and I'll suck. You're, did I tell you about my electoral college victory? So strong. Now remember, John Bolton is not some lefty hero of the resistance. No, he's a Republican through and through. He worked with George W Bush and his father and Ronald Reagan. He also ran a major GOP super PAC, and he was a paid commentator on Fox News. So he's as Republican as an assault rifle giving a lecture on trickle-down economics.

So Bolton revealing these things about Trump should at least spark some concern, because not only does he accuse Trump of abusing the presidency to keep himself in power, but it turns out, Trump might be even more ignorant than we thought. Bolton paints a picture of a highly uninformed and impulsive president. In excerpts of his book, The Room Where It Happened, Bollin says President Trump did not know Britain was a nuclear power, and asked if Finland was part of Russia. Sweet Lord, how do you become the President of the United States without knowing if Finland is its own country?

I mean, I don't expect much from Trump, but if he doesn't even know about the white countries, then what chance does Papua New Guinea have? So, it's not a surprise that there's a lot of stuff that Trump doesn't know but don't let that fool you into thinking that he doesn't know what he's doing because in the book Bolton also reveals how one shocking moment from Trump's presidency was actually a carefully thought-out plan. In November of 2018, Trump came under fire for writing an unfettered defense of the Saudi crown prince,

littered with exclamation points over the killing of the post columnist Jamal Koshog- he.. he. he. he. the book, he, the book, he, to to to th, to the book's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th, th, th. th th th th th th th th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi's th. But thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thooluuu. But to boooooo-s tou thooooo-s thoo-s tho-s tho-s, littered with exclamation points over the killing of the post-columnist Jamal Koshoggi. But according to Bolton's book, the main goal of the missive was to take away attention from a story about Avanka Trump using her personal email for government business. And here's the quote. This will divert from Avonka, Trump said, according to the book. If I read the statement in person, that will take over the Ivanka thing. That's right. Bolton says that Trump chose to personally defend Saudi Arabia's dictator over the murder

of a journalist just to take attention away from Ivanka using a private email account for government business. And I'm sorry, but that's like lighting yourself on fire to distract from the fact that you farted. I mean, I get why Trump wanted to distract from Ivanka using a private email, aka pulling a Hillary Clinton. But if you just want to distract the media, there are way less horrifying ways to do it. You know, like maybe, maybe streak across the White House lawn, or eat a vegetable for the first time.

Breaking news, the president has ingested a piece of broccoli. We'll bring you around-the-clock coverage as we wait to see how his body reacts. And I don't know about you, but I'll never be able to trust another Trump scandal again. Like, does he actually think Mexicans are rapists? Or was he just trying to distract from the mustard on his shirt? So I don't know.

Selling out your credibility and abandoning America's ideals just to get your daughter out of a jam, that seems pretty awful to me. But on the other hand, I don't remember shit about Ivanka's email scandal. So, hey, just from the excerpts just from the excerpts that we've seen, John Bolton's book has painted Trump as corrupt, dumb, and amoral. But my favorite thing that has come out of this book so far also showed us that Trump is like really weird. As the Washington Post reported today, quote, in the months following the summit, Bolton described Trump's inordinate interest in Secretary of State Mike Pompeo delivering a Trump

autographed copy of Elton John's Rocketman on CD to Kim during Pompeo's follow-on visit to North Korea. Trump had used the term Little Rocketman to criticize the North Korean leader but subsequently tried to convince Kim that it was a term of affection. Getting this CD to Kim remained a high priority for several months. Yep, you heard that right. The President of the United States obsessed with getting a CD to Kim Jong-un like some teenager giving a mixtape to his crush. You got to listen to Track 5. It reminds me of the time when you said you were gonna lose your nuclear weapons, but then you didn't. So tricky.

You know, this might actually explain why nuclear negotiations between America and North Korea broke down. Because can you imagine? Being Kim Jong-un, and then getting a signed from Elton John, but it's signed by Donald Trump. I mean, like, that's not getting an autographed Michael Jordan jersey, but it's signed by Donald Trump.

There's no way to make it more of a joke. This is the joke. He's rude joke. It's also weird that Trump thinks Kim Jong-un listens to CDs. Dude, he's the president of North Korea. The man listens to cassettes. So these are just some of the crazy details that have come out of this book. And it turns out there are many other things as well, like Trump encouraging China to put their Muslim population in a detainment camp, or saying that journalists deserve to be executed,

or even that invading Venezuela would be, quote, cool. Yeah, it doesn't end. Now, Trump's response to all of these revelations has been pretty predictable. He claims that Bolton is lying and that he's just a disgruntled, boring fool, which is basically what he says about any former employees who criticized him. He's also suing Bolton to try and prevent the book from being released. Because clearly Trump is afraid that this book is going to tonish his reputation. But Mr President, don't worry about about that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that then is then is then is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi is thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi thi thi that this book is going to tarnish his reputation. But Mr. President, don't worry about that at all. Because whatever is in this book, I promise you, will in no way change our opinion of you. After the break, we learn a little about Juneteenth and LLJ joins us on the show, so don't go away.

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your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. You may remember that President Trump had to move his big rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma because it was originally scheduled on the same day as Juneteenth. Now, that was particularly awkward because Tulsa is the site of an infamous 1921 massacre of black people. But in a new interview with the Wall Street Journal, Trump says that he had no idea Juneteenth was even a thing, and that he polled many people around him, and none of them had heard of Juneteenth either. Now, I don't know why that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that was that was that that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was tho tho. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thu. that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was thing and that he polled many people around him and none of them had heard of

Juneteenth either. Now I don't know why that's surprising. Of course nobody around Trump had heard of Juneteenth. Look at the people he has around him. Look at them. Mike Pence doesn't even know what a cayenne pepper is. You think he's going to know about black history? But to be fair, Trump is hardly alone. There are many Americans who don't know what Juneteenth is.

And if you're one of those people, Dulcey Sloan is here to explain it in her new segment, Dulcean. The day we celebrate slavery officially ending in America. Or if you're gone with the wind fan, a day of mourning. Now you might be thinking the end of slavery. So this is about the Emancipation Proclamation of 1863 didn't end. Slavery didn't even end when the Civil War was over in 1865. In reality, it took two months after the Civil War ended for the Union Army to get into all the slave states and free the slaves. When he came to give out freedom, white people ran on CP time.

But on June 19, 1865, a Union General named Gordon Granger occupied Texas, the last slave state, and declared all of its slaves free. He's an American hero. And he looks like the briees up at my coffee shop. I'm going to have to thank him next time I order a macchiato. And freeing the slaves in Texas was especially important, because although Texas was the last state to be emancipated, it had a ton of slaves. It was blacker than a family reunion in Wakanda. That's because during the war a lot of slave owners shipped their slaves to Texas for state keeping. No, I mean union troops couldn't reach that far. They were basically treating Texas like the couch cushions you

hide your weed in when the cops come. Officer, I didn't know. I got this couch on Greg's list. It came with the weed. tho. the tho, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi thi thi thi thi the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I didn't tho, I tho, I didn't their, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I their, I their, I their their, I their their, I their their, I their their, I their their their their their, I their their thea, I tode, I tode, I tode. toda, toda, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today's, today's, their, today's, their, Of course, even though we celebrate Juneteenth as the end of slavery, it took many more months and a military occupation to actually enforce it. Because it's one thing to tell people they can't have slaves is another thing to go door-to-door like, hey, you paying these guys? Because if not, this better be a big ass sleepover. And all this still didn't free slaves in Union territories. That's. That's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It is is the. It is the. It's, the. It's, the. And, the. And, theeeeeeeean, toean, toean, toeean, toeeean, toge. And, toge. And, toge. And, toge. And all this still didn't free slaves in Union territories. That didn't happen until the 13th Amendment. Yeah, that's right. There were union states with slaves. Imagine living in New Jersey and being a slave? That's one human rights violation on top of another. Either way, black people in Texas recognized June 19th as the day they were liberated.

They organized the first celebration of Junete., then over time it spread as black people migrated. And today it's celebrated by black folks around the country. Juneteen's celebrations have evolved and become a real way to pay homage to those who came before us. It is a representation of our freedom where we can all come together on one street, close down the city to represent the culture. It is a representation of our freedom where we can all come together on one street, close down the city to represent the culture.

You see, that's why Juneteeth is my favorite independence day. It goes Juneteenth, Independence Day with Will Smith, then the 4th of July. I'm not a fan of fireworks. Sounds like someone's doing a drive-by on the sky. So if you ask me, we should make Juneteeth a national holiday, because everybody, everybody, should celebrate the end of slavery, the beginning of freedom for black people,

and the long march toward America's founding ideals. Also, we get the day off. I don't want to be stuck in an office in June. Kevin keeps heating up fish in the microwave because he's a pescatarian, and then he keeps cooking all these eggs. Thank you so much for that, Dulce. When we come back, we'll be talking to activist Kimberly Jones, and of course, LL.L. Kooljay still to come.

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Earlier today, I spoke with activist and author, Kimberly Jones. We talked about her book, I'm not dying with you tonight, and about her powerful speech about the plight of black Americans that went viral. You broke the contract for th for th for the contract tho the contract tho tho tho tho the contract tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho that tho that that that that tho that that that that that tho that tho tho that that that that that that th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho tho tho tho tho' the the to to the to to the thea. thea. thea. thea. that's tho' tho' tho I'm not dying with you tonight, and about her powerful speech about the plight of black Americans that went viral. You broke the contract for 400 years, we played your game and built your wealth. You broke the contract when we built our wealth again on our own by our bootstraps, St. Tosa, and you dropped bombs on us. When we built it in Rosewood, and you came in and you slaughtered us. You broke the contract, so fuck your target. Fck your Hall of Fame.

As far as I'm concerned, they could burn this bitch to the ground. And it still wouldn't be enough. And they are lucky that what black people are looking for is equality and not revenge. Kimberly Jones, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. I'm so happy to be here with you. Let's get straight into that video that went viral in a way that few videos can. What was interesting about this video was that so many people have been talking about

what's going on in America, but this connected with people who maybe didn't understand what was happening before or didn't quite grasp the subject. I had a friend personally who was like, I don't know, I don't know, and he sent me your video and he's like, for the first time I truly understand. And I was like, wow, what am I a chopped liver? So, so talked me through the video, like, so talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, to to to to to to to to me, to me, to, to, to, to, th, to, to, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, th. thin, thr, thr, thr, thin, th. th. thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, to to to to to to to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to, to to to to to to thin, thin, thi, thin, the video, like, because it seemed organic. It seemed like you were in the middle of, you in the midst of, like, it looked like there were protests or something that happened. Talk me through how that video came to be. So my friend David Jones was working on a documentary. He and I have both been out at the protest,

you know, separately. And he had taken his camera out and was recording. And so he called me that Sunday morning and said, hey, you're really good at like man on the street stuff. Can you come do some man on the street for me? And I was like, sure. So we stayed all day. We ended up being in a protest later that day. But the time in which the video was recorded, people were out cleaning up Atlanta.

There was this large group of African-American people who were downtown, cleaning up downtown, and they had spent their own money purchasing cleaning items and things like that. And I kept interviewing these people and the consistent notion was that, you know, the focus was on the looting. And they were focused on the looting, and they were focused on what that was gonna do to the narrative. And it just struck me in a really odd way that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that was going to do to the narrative. And it just struck me in a really odd way

that I felt like this is the direction that the narrative was going, that everyone was going to center the looting and lose focus on the real issue at hand. And so I just started talking, and David had recorded on his camera, and that almost seven minute video is what came out. Yeah, it was aft in the way that that that that that that that that way that way that way that way that way that way that way that way that way that way that way that way that way that that that that that that that that th. thi thi thi thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that that is that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. that th. th. that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. that was th. that was that was that was that was that was that. that. that was. that was. really wonderful analogy that it was apt in the way that it captured a story that so many people have struggled to tell about America and in many ways the world.

You know, I mean, using monopoly was was the perfect metaphor because it was like, that's what monopoly is. It's a game where the rich get richer and you know some people you end up in jail and you don't get your 200, and I mean, most Monopoly games I know of end up with people flipping the board and hating each other. Do you think that's where America is right now? Is people are flipping the board, saying I don't want to play because this game is not fair? Yeah, I think that's exactly where people are.

I think people are saying that there are people who are finally waking up and being empathetic to that, right? And saying, hey, you know, I've been on the board and I've watched what's happened to you and, you know, now I'm recognizing too that the game is fixed and like, I'm outraged on your behalf. I'm not even, you know, I'm not surprised even a little bit that this outrage has come's the first time that people have been still and they've actually been able,

you know, they're not like taking the kid to soccer and going to work and doing all these things and so they actually had the time to sit down and grapple with the issues because growth only comes from discomfort and so you can't avoid, you know, something that's going to make you uncomfortable if you're sitting on the couch stuck with it. One of the lines that struck me the most and has stuck with me ever since is when you said to people who are watching the video, you said, these people and I'll paraphrase you, you basically said these people should be grateful that black people want justice and not revenge. And that struck me because I, you know, maybe because of South Africa's narrative as well. So many people assume that what black people want want tha tha tha tha thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thi thi their thi thi thi thi their thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thus. thu. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. theeeea. to to to to to to to to to to to to to theeea. thea. thea. the. the. many people assume that what black people want is like revenge or an advantage as opposed to inequality. That that struck

a note with so many people. What do you think some people don't understand about the struggle? I think you know one of the bigger issues that people don't understand is you know we talk a lot about the murders and we should because they're devastating and we have to get these crimes solved and we have to have a better way way th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their tha tha tha thoan thoan of of than thoan the of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of thoan thoan thoan thoan thoan thoan thoan thoan their their their their their their their their their... their their their.. their their their. their. their their. their. their their. their their. their their their the. the. their the. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thea. thea. talk a lot about the murders, and we should because they're devastating, and we have to get these crimes solved, and we have to have a better way of handling these situations. But the one thing that people don't talk about are the daily indignities that black people suffer in this country at the hand of the police.

Officers are being sent to marginalized neighborhoods, you know, to do excessive tickickickickick you know that people are economically disadvantaged and they are going to be extenuating circumstances that are going to cause them to not have certain things in place like registrations and insurances and things like that. And then you put them in a system where they have these huge like $1,500, $2,000 tickets that they can't pay and now they're on probation. And so it's like this this this this this this this this ability, this ability, this ability, this ability, this ability, this ability, thiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to like feed the penal system. But again, for me, that's why I made the monopoly analogy, because it's economically based.

And that economic disadvantage allows people to continue to brutalize people. And so if you don't see the daily indignities, you think these occasional murders that make the news, which for the record, there are tons of murders, like the news, which for the record there are tons of them, tons of murders like the case of like Jamarian Robinson, who don't really make national news, but there's just like a daily, it's like this bully that lives in our community and nobody else sees it. Yeah, what's really powerful about just your analysis of the situation is that it very aptly captures what's happening not just in America, but specifically in Atlanta right now.

Atlanta has become a hotbed of these issues, you know? And the killing of Rashad Brooks has been one of the more interesting ones. Because I've always felt like, you know, it encapsulates everything that's happening wrong in America. You know, everything wrong that's going on. It's interesting that he even had a video that of him a few years ago where he talked about what it's like to be somebody who served time but has no opportunity to get back into society and how that then traps you in a cycle of always going back as you said into the carceral system. You know, the news came out now of the police officer who shot him,

kicking him afterwards. And, and you know, if anything, people I think were reacting to the fact that it was like a further dehumanizing of this person. You know, it wasn't just that you've killed the person, but now you're kicking them quite literally when they're down. What would you say is like the core essence of what people in Atlanta are saying right now? I think the main thing is that people in Atlanta are super upset because the original narrative

that came out was that this doesn't happen in Atlanta, right? Like that was the that was the narrative that the people in charge put out and people who are experiencing this on a daily basis were completely insulted by that and they didn't respond well to that because they're like we can name situations. Have you guys just forgotten about Mr. Arbury that was just right before this? With the vigilantes, but even in terms of the police, again, I bring up people like Jamarian Robinson in four years after his murder where he over 90 rounds were fired at him and 76 rounds hit his body. His mother has still not received any justice for that. There have not been any arrest in that case. So this is something that is happening here too. And so people were feeling that at the time in which this happened.

And now to have this happen with Rashard Brooks right on the heels of this, and here's the thing, the disconnect that you would even think to draw and use your firearm in the midst of this heightened state just goes to show you how much there is a lack of concern for the black form in this country and how aggressive and how we have created the warrior cop instead of the guardian of the community that we actually deserve. Because at the end of the day, I don't care what the circumstances were around that. The sentence for what was going on in that video was not death. And we cannot allow officers to be judge, jury, and executioner in the street.

That is not how this worked. That is not the social contract that we all agree to, as I so eloquently stole from you. I will say, I've stolen most of my things from a black woman who I call my mom, so I guess it's just a cycle that goes around. Let's talk a little bit about your work that, you know, I guess as fate would have it, is tied to everything that's going on now. You co-authored a book entitled, I'm Not Dying with You Tonight. And the book is a novel that is inspired by the the same th...... I th.. I the the th. I the th. I the th. I th. I the th. I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. You co-authored a book entitled I'm Not Dying with You Tonight and the book is a novel that is inspired by the civil unrest in Baltimore after what happened to Freddie Gray. So tell me about the book and why you decided to write a novel, you know a book

that lives in a fictitious world about something that's really real that's happening in America today. My co-author Gie Ligel Seagull saw this clip in the news that the news like brushed over really quickly during the Baltimore unrest about a group of kids who were caught behind a police barricade because they did some really stupid things, right? So they shut down schools, told kids to go home early and dispersese, but their, but their, but most of the kids at the high school took public transportation home, so they couldn't get home.

And so there's this quick little story about them getting trapped behind a police barricade. And then we couldn't find anything else about it. We called around. We couldn't figure out what happened to these kids. And so we couldn't get any answers. We decided to to to to to to to to their their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to their their took. their their their took. We took took their their their their their their their their their their their their their p p p p p p p p pe p p pete. their their p p p p p p pete. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their tometextucooecula. tra. traq. traq. traq. traq. trau. trau. trau. trau. tomoooomoomoom and we're concerned. We're like, what happened to those kids? And so we couldn't get any answers. We decided to write this book because we're writers and that's the way we process things. And because kids are experiencing these moments, and because kids are experiencing these, I'm, their thea. But we're not having real conversations with their thoomorrow, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, andthese moments, but actually to have some insights, really fresh ideas and new energy that can help us wrap our head around these situations. And so we wanted to write something for those kids to give them a moment.

And it's interesting, we were at a teacher's conference and a teacher from Ferguson came up to us and said, some of my kids were in middle school when the Ferguson unrest happened, and now they're in high school, and I gave them your book, and we did your book as an assignment, and it's the first time that they were able to process their thoughts and they were able to specialize the book as a tool to do that. And so I hope that's what is doing, is allowing kids to enter into really hard conversation, with tools like your book. I hope more kids can get into it. I hope more parents, you know, find your book. It's called I'm not dying with you tonight. It's a really, really beautiful examination of what's happening in America through the lens of younger people, which I think sometimes connects with everybody a little bit more. Kimmelie. Kimbally, thank you so much for that, Kimberly. thanks to the one and only L. L.L.L. to toe. toe. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. to. I. the. the. the. the. the. It. It. It's. It's. It's. the. It. It's. It's. It's. the. the. It. It. the. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. the. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. t. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. t. t.. t................................ t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t.. me. Thank you. Stay safe out there. Thank you so much for that, Kimberly. Right after the break, I talked to the one and only L.L. Cool J. Stick around. When 60 Minutes

premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You rolling. But that's all about th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi tho tho thi to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. My next guest is legendary rapper and actor LL Cool J.

I spoke to him about the Black Lives Matter movement and how he's expanding his Rock the Bells platform to put hip hop culture and ownership in the hands of the black community. LLKoolJ, welcome to the daily social distancing show. Thank you man, yeah we are socially distanced following the protocol, you know what I'm saying? That's what we're doing. Thank you so much for being on the show, man, because you know, you're a legend.

You're a legend who's been there from the very beginning and what I loved about touching base with LLKooljay again during this time was seeing how you're one of the few people who hasn't decided to completely try and gravitate towards the young and the new. You've gone, no, I want to take what people consider the old and show them how fresh it is with Rock the Bells. Tell me a little bit about that initiative. Tell me about why you've chosen to focus on classic hip-hop, keeping that culture alive and thi that. that that that tha thatuuuuuuuuu th. that, that, I I I I that that, I that that, I that that, I that that, I that that, I that, I that that, I that, I that co, I that, I that, I want that co, I want that culture that culture that culture that culture that culture that culture that culture that culture that culture that culture that culture that culture that culture, I that culture that culture that culture that culture, I I that culture that culture that ca, I thu, I thu, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I'm that, I'm that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I that, I alive? Well, I felt like, you know, quite frankly, this is an art form, and I didn't want these artists to be commoditized and treated like commodities.

I felt like these are people that have made a huge contribution to the world, have changed culture and influenced culture globally. And I felt like, you know, look, if Bob Dillon can be upheld and lifted up as a great writer, why can't rock him? Why can't Nass? So my thing is, I feel like it takes somebody that really cares about the culture and wants to preserve the legacy and uplift these men and women from all different elements of the culture, whether it be MC and DJ and breaking, graffiti, I wanted to make sure that these people were represented in the proper way.

And then also, the flip side is, you know, it's funny man, generation X is like the lost middle child, it's like, it's either okay boomer or chase millennials, and then Gen Z is sprinkled in there kind of under Gen X, it's like, it's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, arm, but it's like, Gen X, it's like, we're just like forgotten about, like, you know, I felt like, yo, there are still people out there who love public enemy, who love run DMC, who love the BC Boys, LL, CoolJ, who love, you know, Eric B and Rock, him, big daddy, and it's like, why can't these artists be celebrated in a major way? so so so so I started the radio station, when I took over the channel on a serious XM, I realized in taking over that channel that the fans of this

culture were really underserved. Like Gen X was completely underserved. And then I also realized that every time they did get presented with some classic hip-hop or some some stuff from this era, it was it was delivered dusty, it wasn't era, it was, it was, it was delivered dusty, it wasn't modern, it wasn't fresh. And the thing about this is, I didn't know what year it is, it's 2020, right? I didn't forget to take my 90s or 80s high school ring off, all right? Like I'm clear about the date, but I. When you go to the Louvre Museum in Paris, or if you go to the Prado, or if you're blessed to be able to do that kind of fancy stuff,

or if you go to a museum, the Mona Lisa is sitting there, and it's like, it's not, we don't focus on the age, it is art. And so that was the thinneu. that's happening is you've stepped up your efforts, you know. It was already about enriching the culture. It was already about getting this message out there and keeping it alive. But now what you've done is stepped up and said, hey, man, you see what's happening. You want to even, you want to push the envelope even more. So you've gone, this is about pushing black-owned pieces of hiphop. You know, you want to get artists, their, their, the, the, their, the are owning the black culture that they have created for so long but haven't owned.

Why is that such a big deal to you? Because I feel like for so many years it was always either the mega billionaire, trillionaire, trillion dollar corporation that was actually capturing all of the value, right? You know, pioneers, the world, and the society is notorious for capturing value and taking it it their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the world and the society is notorious for capturing value and taking it from pioneers, especially black pioneers. I want these artists that actually pioneered it to capture the value. So even in some instances where we are acting as a middleman, at least now when you buy here, you know that the value is at least some of the value is being captured by our community. You know, and I think that that is to me extremely important because two, three hundred years from now, history is written by the winners.

So we need to win so that we can control the narrative so that two, three hundred years from now, we leave something on this planet that is a value that tells a true story about who we are and the contributions that we made. When you look at the world in general, you realize that art, art is a huge part of what people remember in this world and we have to get that narrative right so that it doesn't just become a best of. This isn't a greatest hits genre. You know what I'm saying? There are people who matter who may not be the most famous or the most popular, but

they had an influence and an effect on our culture. In this video, I saw an LL.L. Kuhlj. that I hadn't seen in a long time, and it was when you made a video responding to what was happening in the streets, talking about George Floyd, talking about Black lives, taurility. brutality, it was raw, it was unfiltered, and it was really authentic in the way that you connected. That felt like to me, like it was a reminder of where hip hop came from. You know, hip hop was fundamentally about speaking to this situation.

Is that what you dug into? Is that how and why you made that video? You know, it is the first principles of hip hop. I tossed and turned all night after, you know, seeing what had happened and looking at the responses online and just seeing how people, the pain, the personal pain I was feeling and I just could not, this is one of those moments where you got to choose sides. There is no, none of that, all that being neutral and kind of, you know, the Hollywood two-step, try not to offend someone. No, this was clearly wrong. The way we've been treated is wrong. And I had to step up and just say, you know what? I'm a black man first. I love, don't get me wrong. I'm not try to lump all people in the one barrel. Like saying like, all white people are bad. I do not feel like that because there are a lot of people that are on the right side of history.

But I had to stand up as a black man and say, yo, this is what we're feeling. This is what I'm feeling. This is my personal truth. And then from that specificity it becomes universal because so many people are feeling the exact same thing. You know what I mean. I've been down the commercial the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same same the same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same same people people people. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same people people people people people people people people. the same. the same. the same. the same people people people people. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the the the th. the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the th. the down the commercial lane. I've done the smooth thing of, you know, you know, there was a time when, you know, we couldn't get played on the radio, so we had to adjust our music to get played and, you know, that had an effect on the style of the music I created because I didn't have an internet, right? So, you know, well, some artists like Ice Cube and W.A. They just, the raw path from the beginning. You know, being from New York, coming from where I came from, the circumstances were different and so I chose the more diplomatic route and it got me where it got me. But there comes a point when you have to draw a line. When you have to defend the honor of your people, when you have to stand up and speak truth, that's what I think matters now. I think that's where we're at in this world. We got to stick together, man. Like, and I've also learned just along the journey that it just can't be about LL.Cooja.

You know, it's not about me trying to just be the guy. It's like, what are you doing for the world? What are you, how are you utilizing your platform? It's your platform. Is the world benefiting from your platform or you just purely out to, you know, get a dollar and nothing more? I had to come from a true place, man. I just sit around. I think about people in quarantine. They're in the projects. You know, people living in one room flats with five people, seven people. Like, yo, we got to about our people. We gotta, we gotta connect a little more. There's more to this thing than just this. I'm not saying I don't wanna make money. Yeah, I'm America, yo, capitalism.

I'm with getting the money. I'm, I like to get to the bags. But, but it's gotta to be about something more, man. You know what I mean? That's just the truth. I feel you complete. It is the truth. And I think that's why your words connected with so many people. And I think that's why we've seen so many people, as you say, stepping off the sidelines and saying,

hey, thean't this is over, I'm gonna come sit on the couch man. I appreciate you my dude. Thank you. All right, peace. Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go, the Daily Show and Comedy Central have been donating to three groups who are fighting against police brutality and systemic racism. The NWACP, legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal legal. I the legal. I the legal. I the legal. I the the the the to. I. I to. I to. I th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I I th. I I I th. I I I I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. th. th. I'm. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. AndACP Legal Defense Fund, the Equal Justice Initiative, and the Bail Project. Now, if you would like to help out and you have the means, then please go to the following link and donate whatever you can. The Daily Show with Trevnoa Ears Edition. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11 10 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central Act.

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