The Daily Show: Ears Edition - El Chapo's Life-Plus Sentence & Congressional Chaos Over Trump's Racist Tweets | Nelson Makamo

Episode Date: July 18, 2019

Drug lord El Chapo is sentenced to life plus 30 years in prison, Democrats and Republicans spar over President Trump's racist tweets, and visual artist Nelson Makamo stops by.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for coming out. I'm Trevor Noah, our guest tonight, our guest tonight is a phenomenal African artist whose art was featured on the cover of Time Magazine. Nelson McCamo is joining us everybody. I'm really fascinating young man. to love him. Our guest tonight is a phenomenal African artist whose art was featured on the cover of Time Magazine. Nelson McCamo is joining us everybody. A really fascinating young man, you're going to love him. Also on tonight's show, what Jeffrey Epstein was doing at Marilago, Congress descends into chaos and why the Russians now have your face. So let's catch up on today's headlines.

Let's kick it off with the trend that's going viral. Face app. It's the app that lets users see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see the users see see see the the the trend that's going viral. Face app. It's the app that lets users see themselves as old people, and the reason why your Instagram now looks like Tinder at a nursing home. And you can see why the app has gone viral, right? It does like a really crazy good job of showing how you could look if you were old. For instance, we tried it on the Democratic candidates, and it's pretty insane to see, right. th. th. It. It. It's, right. It's, right. It's, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, it, right, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, th..... th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. the thi. th. the the thi. the the that, the the the the that, the the the the. the the. th old. For instance, we tried it on the Democratic candidates, and it's pretty insane to see, right? This is what Kamala would look like when she's old, right?

This is what Mayor Pete would look like, yes, yes. And when we tried it on Bernie, the system crashed. But... But... But while we're all having fun with the latest social media fan, it turns out, face app might not be harmless fun. Security concerns over a face-aging app that's getting new attention because of celebrities and sports stars.

You've probably done it yourself. Well, it turns out the developer of the app is based in Russia, and that is raising concerns that private information could fall into the wrong hands. Bravo, Russians. You've done it again. Honestly, I should have known something was up when the app asked me for access to my camera, my location, and any photos of me getting peed on. I should have known.

And Face App, working with the Russians, right? Just reminds me of how careful we have to be with all of these apps. Like this is almost as bad as when we that that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi-aui-aui-a, you thi-a, you th, you thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi-a, thi-a, thi-s, thi-s, is thi-s, is thri, is thri, is thri-s, is thriiiiiiiiiiii-s, thrui-s, thrui, is thr-a, is thi-s, is the Russians, right? Just reminds me of how careful we have to be with all of these apps. Like, this is almost as bad as when we found out that that dancing Snapchat hot dog secretly worked for ISIS. That was a tough day for us. And you know, it makes sense that Russians built an app to make people look older than they are. Because that's basically what living in Russia does to everybody. Yeah, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi thi thi thi thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiol-s thiol-s thi thiiol-s thiol-s thiol-s thiol-s thiol-s thiol-s thiol-s thiol-s thiol-s that isn't face up. Those women are 25.

It's a tough country. Anyway, speaking of getting old, the world's biggest drug lord, El Chappo Guzman, was sentenced in court today. And let's just say his fellow prisoners are also gonna get to see what his face will look like in 30 years. But the rest of his life in prison. Today in Brooklyn Federal Court, Wackeen Guzman Loehrer was sentenced to life plus 30 years.

Damn, life plus 30 years. That judge wasn't messing around. You realize that means even if his reincarnated, he slows the justice system 30 years. Yeah, so Al Chappo could come back as a baby giraffe, it doesn't matter. They take him straight to the Brooklyn Zoo. They'll be like, let's go, let's go. Yeah, what do you think zoo's words? Animal jail, that's what that shit is. That's Alchapo, don't ah?

That's Alchapo giraffe. Actually, if anything, that sentence is harshest on El Chappo's cellmates because you realize that he has to spend 30 years with a corpse, right? Every night they'll be playing poker, he'll be like, okay, Alchapo, I raise you. Wow, you don't give anything away, man, you're really good. But now that Alchapo is behind bars, there's an opening for the world's new top drug smuggler. And there's a story breaking today about a man who just might be the guy. Spanish police arrested a 65-year-old man from Columbia after they found a pound of cocaine under his toupey.

Police said the man stuck out last month when he arrived at the airport in Barcelona. He looked nervous and his hairpiece was several inches above his head. You see there on the left, the man with the tuppey, and then the toupe off in the right picture, and that bundle of cocaine perched on his head. Okay, like, you know his sentence should be that he just has to wear that wig forever. That's what it should be. But like for real though, I feel like he isn't even the worst criminal. The worst criminal is the person who's his friend who let him leave the house with that arm who was like, no dude, I can't even tell that it's fake.

I can't even see it. And now you may be asking, hey, why didn't this guy just put the drugs in his butt? Well he did. And that also looked suspicious as well. It, uh... All right, moving on to some exciting technology news. The man who brought us Tesla, SpaceX, and the Hyperloop has just unveiled his latest amazing project. Elon Musk's next big idea, new details about his brain to machine interface. The device itself is cutting edge.

What it is is a thread-like device, thinner than a human hair, it gets inserted through a skull, and on it are thousands of of thes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes tho-a tho-a thread-like device, thinner than a human hair, it gets inserted through a skull, and on it are thousands of electrodes which monitor brain neurons and transmit that data back. They are looking to create symbiosis with artificial intelligence. I think even in a benign AI scenario, we will be left behind. But I think with a high-band-width brain machine interface, I think we can actually go along for the ride. And we can effectively have the option of merging with AI. Okay, what?

Elon Musk is saying that because AI is going to wipe out humans in the future, humans should just make ourselves computers before computers wipe us out. Is this guy a computer? Is this a trap? It feels like a trap. You can't escape something by doing it to yourself, huh? It'll be like if a plane is crashing and then you jump out without a parachute. I'm not going to die in a plane crash! You're like, yeah, you're going to die next to a plane crash.

It's going to be the plane crash, the plane the plane the plane crash, the plane crash, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be a to be a plane, to be a plane, to die next to a plane crash. It's going to be the plane crash and you. Also, having computers in our brains is not going to end well. Can we agree on this? It is not going to end well. Think about how many times you've hit reply all by mistake, huh? Now, imagine you could reply all with your brain. Your co-worker comes up to you the next day. Hey, uh, everything you thought you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you, you, you, you, you you you you you you you you thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, it thi, it thi, it th th thi, th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin. thin. thin. thin, to to to to to to to to to to to to thin, thi. Yeah, you sent that to the entire office, yeah. And I don't think the connection is going to look that great because Elon Must says in the future it would just be like one strand of hair, right? So they'll shrink it down. But for now, it's not one strand. It's many strands of hair.

I think we actually have a picture of what it looks like. That's, yeah, that's it for the headlines. Let's move on to our main story. It has now been four days. It has now been four days since Donald Trump sent out that infamous tweet telling four minority Democratic Congresswomen to go back to where they came from. And most people have agreed the tweet was racist. Firstly because three of the Congresswomen were born in the US, and secondly because the phrase go back to where you come from is literally a racist cliche. Like I hated when people say that to me. Just the other day someone was like, Trevor when are you going back to Africa? And I was like, mom I live in New York now, okay? We can just face time. Now, despite the backlash,

Trump has doubled down on his racist tweets, but his fellow Republicans, they're having a harder time defending his words. Republicans like Mitch McConnell, Senate Majority Leader, and cover model of loose-skin weekly. Because, you see, McConnell is married to Transportation Secretary Elaine Chow,

who herself is an immigrant. And a journalist asked him how he would feel if someone to Transportation Secretary Elaine Chow, who herself is an immigrant. And a journalist asked him how he would feel if someone told his wife to go back to where she comes from. You're married to an immigrant who's a nationalized U.S. citizen. If someone were to say to her, she should go back to our country because of criticism of federal policies, wouldn't you consider that a racist attack? Well, the Secretary of Transportation came here at age eight legally, and federal policies, wouldn't you consider that a racist attack? Well, the Secretary of Transportation came here at age eight legally, not speaking a word of English, and has realized the American dream.

Okay, that's a weird way to judge a question. Well, well, thank you for a question. I will not read my wife's Wikipedia page. Elaine Chow, early life and education. Ma. That was just the appetizer. The real drama yesterday was on the floor of Congress, where the Democrats introduced a resolution to officially condemn Trump's words as racist.

But then, often Nancy Pelosi called Trump's words racist, Republicans in Congress objected to her words because apparently, this is completely true, there's a rule in Congress that says members of Congress in the House on the floor can't accuse the president of racism. You're not allowed to do it. Even if the president says something racist, which is insane. Like Congress couldn't even call Trump racist if he walked into the Capitol like wearing full black face just like running and just being like, my niggers. Yeah, which is probably going to be his next state of the union if he finds this out.

So because Nancy Pelosi called Trump's racist tweet racist on the House law, all hell broke loose Congress style. Breaking overnight chaos on Capitol Hill. After a raucous debate a rare move by the House, voting to condemn President Trump over his attack on four Democratic Congresswomen. Quite a scene here on the House floor, a raucous fight exposed those deep partisan divides here on the Hill. The House is not in order. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Georgia. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker.

Do you think it's not? The gentleman was suspended? Mr. Collins. Mr. Collins. I see nothing. the. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Is that what you're saying right now, Mr. Collins? Gentleman will suspend. Mr. Collins. I see nothing that references anybody's race. Okay, hold up, hold up. Man, what that guy says is total BS. You can still be racist without actually saying somebody's race.

We all know the shit. You people. We don't like your kind around here. Go back to where you came from. Either this congressman is being woefully ignorant, or he's genuinely clueless and never knows when people are shitting on him. Yeah. It's probably sitting next to some woman who's like, man, someone needs to use deodorant. He's like, who? Who? Who? She can't be talking about me because she didn't use my name. So yesterday was total chaos on the house, right? Then, after about two hours of arguing,

it was decided that the Republicans were right. According to the rules, you can't call the president racist on the house floor. And that's when Eric Swarwell, former presidential candidate and woke Kendoll stepped up to the plate. We have an opportunity today to condemn or condone. Bertherism is racist. Saying a Mexican judge can't be fair because of his heritage is racist. Saying immigrants from Mexico are rapists is racist.

And telling four members of this body to go home is racist. Do you think it's not racist? Do you think it's not racist? Do you think it's not racist? The gentleman was suspended. Is that what you're saying right now, Mr. Collins? Damn, Eric Swalwell does not give a f- F. You see him? You see him?

You see him? You know what he has. He's got that I just dropped out of the race. You see him? You know what he has? He's got that I just dropped out of the race swag. That's what he's got. Yeah, you know when you've just been fired from your job? Yeah, and in that moment you don't think you'll ever work at another job? That's what he has. That's when you're truly at your most powerful.

Just throwing burger patties on the floor, putting your mouth on the soft-serve machine, rubbing apple pies on your ass. You can tell Ronald about this. You tell Ronald about this. I'm ready to sleep in jail tonight. It was such a great performance. Some people probably wanted to throw well to jump back into the presidential race after this, but unfortunately, it's too late we already sold his spot in the graphic for ad space sorry Eric so this thing was pretty wild by congressional standards and it wasn't just Democrats being called out for their words at one point

congressman see no racism over here referred to aOC and her squad as anti-american and then the Democrats tried to get him to retract his words things got so sidetracked by people objecting to each other's objections. At one point, the guy presiding over the chamber just decided he had enough. So the fight that ensued over Speaker Pelosi's comments on the president proved to be a breaking point for one Democratic lawmaker. But we don't ever, ever want to pass up, it seems an opportunity to escalate. And that's what this is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this that's what this is.

I'll dare anybody to look at the end of the footage and see if there was any unfairness. But unfairness is not enough, because we want to just fight our abandon the chair. God damn. Do you know how much arguing you have to do to get that kind of reaction out of an old black man? That is a man who has endured thousands of hours listening to people arguing barbershops and I can tell you not once has he ripped off his apron like enough maybe Jordan and Lebron are both great players come on y'all come on!

Come on! By the way, though, he probably had to know that there was a chance that his job could get crazy, right? Because if they give you a job where you have a giant ass hammer when you sign up, you know the shit isn't going to be Wimbledon. But even with those expectations, he was still like, I'm too old for this shit. So after day four of Go Home Gate, we are no closer to Republicans and Democrats agreeing on how to condemn Trump's tweet, which was racist. But the good news is we've all learned something new, all of us.

We've learned in Congress no one is allowed to call the president racist. And who knows? Maybe someday in the future they'll write another rule that says the president isn't allowed to be racist. We'll be right back. Stuart here. Unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show, the Weekly Show, we're going to be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio, on sandwiches. Listen to the weekly show with My guest tonight is a visual artist from South Africa whose work recently appeared on the cover of Time magazine. Please welcome Nelson Makamo. Welcome to the show my friend. Thank you for having you, Trevor. Good for you to be as exciting to have you on this side of the world. Welcome to the show my friend. Thank you for you to be as exciting to have you on this side of the show, my friend.

Thank you for having you, Trevor. Good for you to be as exciting to have you on this side of the world. I remember when I first saw your work, it enthralled me, it captured me, and I loved it as a fellow South African. But then when I saw it blow up on the world stage, it did something I never thought I could feel. Because art has always felt like it's been like a European thing. You know, it's like that's art. And then it's like the Africans make nice things. They'd be like, oh, this is cute.

Where did you pick this up? You know? But you're starting to shake that. You're starting to change all of that. You just came back from your own showing in Paris, where people, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the art, their, their, their, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, and, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, thi. thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and... the... the.. the.. the.. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. do you think you're experiencing this success in the art world? Wow, I mean, I don't even know where to start. I mean, art has always been part of me. Right. Growing up, I mean, I grew up, I was born in a small town in South Africa.

It was quite interesting because growing up twice were never actually an option as a black child. So you had to create your own choice. So my foundation of art started from there. I started actually making toys from clay. And then from there, studying from primary. It was quite interesting because I mean, South Africa, as you know, in the 80s, post-apartheid, we were limited in terms of choices.

Art was never an option. So as a child, you were told to either become a doctor, you know, you become a teacher, a lawyer. Yes. That's what your parents hoped you would do. That's what my parents were actually hoping for me to do. Drawing is not an option for like a young black child. That's exactly that. Yeah. But I was actually, I was fortunate enough to have a mother who truly believed in my talent that from an early age she truly supported me.

Right. So I had a strong supporting figure from an early age. But it was also quite interesting because she never saw that as something that I would also make a living out of it as well. You've made more than just a living now. I mean, you've gone from being a successful artist in South Africa to a world-renowned artist. I mean, you know, people come to South Africa to view your art, to purchase your art. And I mean, everybody, you know, from Alicia Keys through to Oprah Winfrey. I mean, I remember Oprah telling the story of how she came to your building and you have a building in the heart of Johannesburg in South Africa

and there's no elevator. Actually, that was quite one of the most interesting story because I was on the fourth floor. Yes. There was no elevator. So she had to take the steps from the first, from the ground floor to the fourth floor. Right. She wasn't happy at all. Because my favorite was Oprah, Oprah tells her, she's like, Oprah doesn't climb stairs for anybody. Oprah was like, no, she's like, I'm gonna go.

Where's this guy? Why is he not coming with the art? But she came to you and she fell in love with the art, and as many people have. Why do you think it connects with so many people from different walks of life? Because so many people would think of African art as African art, but it's like, no, this is art, and you happen to be South African. I think like one of the privileges that I actually had was, I studied in a community-based. college and I applied for residency which I went to Italy for three months.

I think having to have an experience of outside South Africa that has actually helped me to sort of view things not for only from an African perspective but to actually look at things from a global perspective as right. I started creating work more like a language, a universal language, in a way that it was quite interesting because the first thing that I did was to use a child as a subject in my work. Yeah, we've seen some of those amazing pictures. You've got these images of children, and I think on the cover of time, they called

it the art of hope. Yeah. You know, because it showed South Africa and Africanness in a very different way. For th. showed South Africa and Africanness in a very different way. For so long we've seen arts that makes it, it's all about poverty, it's all about pain, it's all about suffering. And here these images, they're open to interpretation, but they feel hopeful, they feel young, they feel like children who live in Africa.

And the scale of them is also huge. I mean, we have some pictures of you, you know, like working on some their their their their their their their their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their....... their. their. their. their. th. their.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. th. their.a. their. their. their, giant pictures that you create. Why the children, why their eyes, why the glasses, what does that symbolize? You know, I think another thing that I actually realize as time goes, I realize that, you know, and art, I mean, when you look at art, it doesn't matter. I mean, I got inspired by Picasso, which he was non-African. Then you start realizing that... And ironically, Picasso was inspired by Africans. That's exactly there as well.

But then you realize that there was something there that says that as people, we don't necessarily in terms of culture. I mean, the way we live, the world today, we all sort of aspires to more to the same thing as well. I had to use a reference that was too close to me, which was a child, an African child. And the reason why I also did that was the fact that if you look at how the image of an African child was portrayed globally, it was portray either a hungry disadvantage and all of that as well.

But if you've been to Africa and you realize that none of those things is almost like a taboo. And I had to go back and actually reintroduce how, the way we are as Africans, to actually say that we are more or less the same as any other person in the world as well. We're inspired. Success, etc. And we also inspired by beauty. We follow culture. We love music. Today when you go to Africa, you have a child who's got a smartphone. That actually to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe toe their their their their their their their their thi. I their, thi. I thi. I thi and thi and thi and their, their, thi, thiol-a, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. Wea. Wea. Wea. We are, th. Wea. We are th. Wea. We are their, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, you have a child who's got a smartphone. That actually tells you in terms of where we are as people as well. My thing and my view and how I've actually also drawn the inspiration from the world.

The advantage of traveling has made me to also look at my environment as a source of inspiration as well. And why did I actually also had to blow them and make them so gigantic is to actually bring them up close and personal? And when I did that, I realized that it actually also created a dialogue that as human beings, we experience the same thing. We experience the same joy. We all sort of have, we go through the same experiences in life as well, we go through the same political, we go through the same struggles as well. So as a young African who actually been given an opportunity to sort of like rewrite history and reintroduce our image to the world, I had to go back and look at myself and say, if I was, if I were to sort of represent ourselves globally, what language will I use?

I had to actually use a universal language. I had to use a child who is close to me as a point of reference, but that child is like any other child in the world. We don't actually choose to be born in certain spaces as well. Actually, for me, it was such a blessing to be born in a continent that has so much history that allowed me to actually tell that history what is actually currently happening as well. Take the very same inspiration that I've actually drawn globally, combine it and putting it in an artwork as well. That's fantastic.

And if you look at your art now, you're traveling the world, you're selling your artworks in different countries. People are learning the name Nelson Marcoma. You're a part of South Africa's growth, I mean, you're investing in the inner city, you, you, you, you're the world, you're the image, you're the image, you're the image, you're the image, you're the image, you're the image, you're the image, you're the image, you're the image, you're the image, you're the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and the name Nelson Makamo. You're a part of South Africa's growth. I mean, you're investing in the inner city. You're changing the image of what the inner city is all about. What is your dream for African art and African artists as a whole? My dream is, I mean, more than anything else, I'm an independent artist. My journey, I had to actually go against the art.

I had to go against the normal way, because usually an artist to get to a certain point, especially with exposure and all of that, you actually had to have someone picking up, like galleries as well. Right, and you've done that on your own. I've done that on my own because of the privilege of having technology of today, which actually what it does that it simplifies. Actually for me, my dream was for people to have access to my work.

And for me to actually be featured on the time, especially the cover, there was the only museum that I could actually wish to have because it allowed each and every person to have access to my work as well. With that, I actually take that as an advantage to say, what can I do back at home? We're actually setting up spaces. Those spaces is like actually building bridges for young artists. To actually see that it's actually possible to actually make it and to actually present yourself globally without really having to rely on the same system that has always been there because of those who've always been playing

as the main players, the gatekeepers, as maybe the term some people who actually use as well. But today when you actually think about art, it's not long as intimidating as it used to be before. Right. Because there was only certain elite individual that you used to actually have access to create a world where young African artists can access the world with their art as opposed to somebody telling them how their art should be accessed. That's exactly that as well. And it's amazing, man.

Thank you so much for being on the show Nelson Nelson. Now, thank you. Good having you out here. I appreciate their and everything you do. For more information, go to Nelson McCormorno. The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. Watch the Daily Show Weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central app. Watch full episodes and videos at the Daily Show. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, and subscribe to the Daily Show on YouTube for exclusive content and more.

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