The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Elon Musk Beefs With Apple | Pam Grier

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

Elon Musk picks a fight with Apple, Donald Trump faces fallout from his dinner with Nick Fuentes, and actor Pam Grier talks about sharing her life story on the TCM podcast "The Plot Thickens."See omny...studio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. Coming to you from New York City, the only city in America. It's the Daily Show. Tonight, will the trains go on strike? The latest supernatural trend. And Pam Greer. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah, thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for coming out in question. Thank you so much for being in.
Starting point is 00:00:49 We have got a great show for you tonight. Take a seat, everybody. Take a seat, let's get into this. Elon Musk is going to war with Apple. We find out what virus will kill you next. And Joe Biden is working on the railroad, todeea, todea, tode, tode, tode, too, too, too, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be so to be so to be so to be so to be so to be so to be so to be so much, to be so much, to be so much, to be so much, to be so much, to be to be to be to be to be so much, to be so much, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. too. too, too, too, to to to to to to to to be so much th railroad. Plus, the legendary Pam Greer is joining us on the show, everybody. So, let's do this people. Let's jump straight into today's headlines. All right, before we get into the big stories, let's catch up on a few other things going on in the world. We kicked things off with the World Cup where the United States has moved on to the round of 16 after defeating Iran 1-0. Yes, it's such an amazing win for them. It means that they go to the next
Starting point is 00:01:36 round and they now get to say Iran instead of Iran. In Hawaii, the world's largest active volcano has just begun erupting for the first time in 38 years. Which is a shame. Another brother fallen during no-not November. It was so close, man. It was so close. In other science news, researchers have now reanimated a so-called zombie virus that has
Starting point is 00:02:05 lain dormant under the Arctic ice for nearly 50,000 years. Yeah. Now the good news is that Joe Biden is immune. He already had it as a kid. And I know, I know a lot of people are worried. They're like, why are we doing this? It's dangerous to mess with viruses. thi thiiiiii. with viruses this way, but think about it people, it's actually pretty smart because these viruses are eventually going to emerge anyway when the ice caps melt. So the quicker we can learn about them, the quicker we can make a vaccine that no one will take. Oh, and
Starting point is 00:02:33 in some legal news, a Florida woman is suing craft foods over its microwave mac and cheese, arguing that while the box says it's ready in three and a half minutes, that doesn't include the amount of time it takes to add the water and then wait for the sauce to thicken. And you can laugh, but she's right. I mean the box doesn't even include the time it takes for me to cry over the fact that I have to eat Croft Mac and Cheese. That's another 45 minutes. And you know stories like th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th I th th I thus like thus like thus like thus like thus like thus like thus like thus like thus like thus thus thus thus thus the thus thus. thus. thus. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thus. thus. thus. thus. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooeses. th stories like this make you think about, he must be so hard for the lawyer who works on a case like this to discuss their work with their peers, you know? They're just sitting in a room, it's like, I'm working on a case to protect the right to abortion in the South.
Starting point is 00:03:14 It's like, yeah, I'm working on it. A case to shut down a company that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's been their their the is the is the is their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their is their is their their their their thi is thi is thi. thi. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo'. their their their the know how sometimes macon cheese takes longer to make than you expect? All right, well, let's move on to some of the biggest stories of the day. Starting with the ongoing firestorm facing Donald Trump. Former presidents and host of the most disturbing dinner since the one Jeffrey Dahmer had. Last week, Trump ate dinner at Marlago with Kanye West and a prominent white supremacist named Nick Fuentes. And we don't know exactly what happened at that dinner, except that nobody ordered Latkis.
Starting point is 00:03:51 But apparently, a lot of Republicans don't think it's a great look for the leader of their party to be splitting apps with neo-Nazis. Donald Trump facing growing backlash to his dinner last week with prominent white nationalist Nick Fuentes, Republican politicians now among those calling out the former president. I think there's been clear that there's no bottom to the degree to which President Trump will degrade himself and the nation. Well, I think he'd make better choices, obviously. That was a bad decision. There's no place for that in the Republican Party.
Starting point is 00:04:26 President Trump was wrong to give a white nationalist, an anti-Semite and a Holocaust denier, a seat at the table. And I think he should apologize for it, and he should denounce those individuals and their hateful rhetoric without qualification. Let me just say that there is no room in the Republican Party for anti-Semitism or white supremacy. That's right, there's no room at all because we're already full. Yeah. I mean, we do have room for someone who hates Dothrackies, but that would be a new one.
Starting point is 00:05:08 You know, it's so funny watching Republicans try to chastise Trump for hanging out with someone who has the exact same views as him without chastising Trump for having those views. Because here's the thing. I'm willing to believe that. I'm willing to believe that. But you've got to admit, it says a lot about him that he enjoyed this man's company and everything that he had to say.
Starting point is 00:05:31 All right? Like, if your friend brings Darth Vader to your house for dinner, that's not your fault. But 15 minutes in, any decent person will be like, our planets. Also, why is he wearing a mask? We've all been tested. And it is nice. It is nice to see Republican officials speak out against Trump for a change. But we all know how this is going to end. Republicans get mad at Trump for a little while. And then they always get back together with him in the end. Trump scandals are basically like hallmark movies. Except Trump never actually changes and becomes a better person. It's just like, Donald, either you choose your career or you choose me. He's like, well, I choose my career. Okay, you can have me
Starting point is 00:06:08 too, Donald. But let's move on to some news about trains, or as I call them choo trains. You may think about trains as just a form of transport or a place where people gather to solve murders, but they're not just that. It turns out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out th, their th, their their their, th, th. thi thi, thi, thra, thra, thra, thra, thra, thra, their, their, thrines, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. the thea, thea, tr-i. tr-i. tr-a. tr-a. tr-i. tr-i. tr-i. tr-i. tr-i. te not just that. It turns out that trains are responsible for carrying billions of dollars in goods across America every year. But over the past few months, railroad workers have been trying to negotiate better working conditions with the railroads, and the dispute has gotten so bad that now President Biden, Amtrak Joe himself, is stepping in. President Biden has claimed Congress to a vertaluming rail strike and impose a settlement that some union members rejected.
Starting point is 00:06:48 The president's involvement signals a major shift for him that could potentially pit him against his union allies. But right now, George, he says that he was reluctant to get involved in this one. But the potential that cripple, that this could cripple the economy was just too much. A strike could threaten everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything thriked. A thrived. A thrived. A thr-a. thr-a. thr-a. thr-a. thr-a. thr-o. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th just too much. A strike could threaten everything from farming and food to crucial chemicals for clean water causing major supply change disruptions. Yeah, that's right. A railroad strike wouldn't just inconvenience passengers. It would devastate the entire economy. Which you've got to admit sounds weird in 2022, right? No, it does. Because railroads feel so old-timey. It's like, it'll devastate the economy. Now it's like finding out you're losing your the the the the the the the the the the to the the to the the the to to the the the the the to to the the their s s s s s s s s s s s s. Sounds their s. Sounds to to thooos, thoos, thoos. Sounds, tooos, thoos, tooos, tooos, tooos, to, to, to, to. to. to, to. to, to, to, to, to, to, t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, their, their, their, their, their, their.c.s.s.s. their.s.s.s.s.s. te.s.s. tr. their, And they like it'll devastate the economy. Now it's like finding out you're losing your job because the whale hunters union went on strike. Like, but I work on computers. Yeah, well actually the internet
Starting point is 00:07:31 runs on whale oil. What are you going to do? Now, the situation is complex. But basically, some railroad unions are threatening to strike because despite railroad companies making billions in profits, workers' schedules are so unpredictable that thuuuuuu. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And thiii and to to thi and thi and thi, to thi, thi, to to, to, to, to, to, toe, toe, their, their, toe, toe, toe, toe, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, theymea, thea, tyli, tiea, tylii, tiea'liole, tyl, tiel, tiel, the w so unpredictable that they can't plan their lives, and they definitely don't get nearly enough sick days, which they deserve. Especially because every few train rides, they have to climb on the roof because they hear a sound, and it's James Bond who's coming to punch them and take over the train.
Starting point is 00:07:57 That's at least a mental health day. So it's kind th th th th th th th th the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. thi. thi. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's their. thate. thate. thate. that's that's that. that. that. their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. thea. thaea. thaea. thaea. thaea. thaea. tha from striking. You know, that's the only point of leverage that workers have. If they can't strike, what are they supposed to do? Be like, all right, we'll run the trains, but when we blow the whistle, it's gonna be real sad. Dutu-too-too! At the same time, on his watch. His administration has enough problems. High interest rates, war in Europe, they can't find a sitter for Pete Boudergegegez. Time's a hard. But if anyone can solve a train crisis, it's Joe Biden. This man has spent his whole life obsessed with trains. This is his moment.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Can you imagine? It's made for him. This is like if Trump had to solve a crisis involving the MacRib. You know? He's just buying, everyone out of the room, Melania, get me the hamburger on a secure line. We're gonna solve this. But this isn't yet another reminder of all the things happening in the supply chain that we all just take for granted.
Starting point is 00:08:59 We take it all for granted, because a banana doesn't just show up in a grocery store. Somebody grows a tree in Costa Rica, and then it's picked, and it's loaded onto a truck, and then a ship, and then another truck, and then a train, and then another truck. And that's when you buy it at the store. You put it on your counter, and you let it slowly rot before throwing it in the garbage and that garbage is picked up by another truck And then it's shipped back to Costa Rica. It's actually beautiful when you think about it It's a circle of life Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:36 All right finally. History is full of famous feuds. You know, Godzilla versus Mothra Swifties versus Ticketmaster, Herschel Walker versus Condoms, and now there's a new one. Elon Musk, the world's richest man is picking a fight with the world's richest company. Elon Musk has a beef with Apple, he claims the tech giant has threatened to pull Twitter from its app store. A move like that would, of of course crush Musk's new company. Musk tweeting a series of claims against Tim Cook and Company, calling out the iPhone maker
Starting point is 00:10:10 for pulling back on advertising on the social platform, also complaining about the 15 to 30 percent fee that is placed on app developers. Musk also said that Apple had threatened to remove Twitter from its app store as part of its review moderation process. he likened this move to a suppression of free speech. This is a battle for the future of civilization, he writes. If free speech is lost even in America. Tyranny is all that lies ahead. Really, Elon? Tyranny? You can't give the brave heart speech about everything. Everything this dude is walking around Twitter headquarters like, this threatens the very existence of democracy and mankind. And the gender is like, okay, geez, I'll refill the paper towels.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Stop shouting. Now, we should unpack this a bit because Elon went full on ludicrous mode yesterday with a bunch of different claims about Apple. The first thing he complained about, was that Apple stopped advertising on Twitter, which, which, which, which, which, which, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi this thi thi thi this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this th th th thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi threaten threaten threaten threaten threaten threaten threaten threaten threaten threaten threaten threaten threaten threaten th The first thing he complained about was that Apple stopped advertising on Twitter, which he thinks is an attack on free speech. And maybe it's just me, but do you also find it funny how free speech and giving Elon Musk money always seem to be perfectly aligned? Elon's like, oh, so the world's most perfectly, perfectly protected brand doesn't want ads
Starting point is 00:11:23 showing up next to the world's most perfectly perfectly protected brand, doesn't want ads showing up next to Nazi memes? I guess you believe in censorship, huh? Secondly, Elon is bitching that Apple has threatened to drop Twitter from the App Store. And if that's true, it's probably because Apple requires all of its apps to be safe. And Musk has essentially fired all the people who are responsible for content moderation and replace them with a sign that just says, hey, don't post that. And the third point, the third point that Elon's crying about is that Apple has too much
Starting point is 00:11:47 power over iPhone apps. Yeah, because if he charges $8 a month for Twitter verification, Apple automatically gets to take up to 30% of any money people spend in the app that theylone doesn't want that to be able to $30%% of Twitter's money away, just because some idiot made him spend $44 billion on an app that we all use for free. He can't afford that shit. And so that's where we are right now, the richest company versus the richest man in the world.
Starting point is 00:12:12 And the stakes could not be higher. Because remember, the outcome of this war could determine how we spend our time, while we poop? All right, that's it for the headlines. Before we go to a break, it's time to check in on all the latest social media trends with our very own, Ronnie Chang, everybody! What's going on, Ronnie? Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Thank you. I love social media. It's the one place where you can keep your Thanksgiving fights going all year long. Here's what's trending today, okay? There's this weird video on TikTok of a doll dancing around in the forest. And now parents are showing their kids that video and tricking them into believing that the doll was them as a baby. Now, what I just said may not make any sense. But trust me, after you watch it, tha tha, thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thoomoomo, thi, thi, the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho. tho. thooooooooooooooooooooooo. today, today, today, today, today, today, t any sense, but trust me, after you watch it, it will somehow make even less sense, all right?
Starting point is 00:13:08 Let's take a look. You remember? That's not 19? Yeah, it was. You don't remember? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:23 You were just born. Okay, yeah. You were just born. Okay, stop, start the video. Putin, if you're watching this, please just nuke us right now and end it, okay? Because if you're gonna gaslight kids, like you're gonna men in black brainwash your children, at least give them a good fake memory, okay? Like make them believe that two years ago you already got them a Nintendo instead of losing their college fun in Bitcoin, right? Because this challenge is just mean. Even Woody Allen is like, this is no way to treat your own kids.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Okay? What, too soon? Too soon? Kids? Kids. Let's try a new challenge, okay? The call protective services and tell them your parents are exploiting you for likes challenge. Okay? Because you might even get a new family out of this. It'll be hilarious.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Just something for the gram. And on the other thing that's training right now is, as Trevor said, Elon must versus Apple. He's very upset right now. And of course Elon is upset at Apple's policy. Okay, Elon barely read his own contract to buy Twitter. You think he read Apple's terms and conditions? Okay, no one seems to understand. This guy is rich in America. Okay, that means people should just do what he wants. Stop oppressing him. Okay. Elon grew up in South Africa under a part-hi should just do what he wants. Stop oppressing him. Okay? Elon grew up in South Africa under a part-hide, Trevor. Do you have any idea how hard that was for him?
Starting point is 00:14:50 That's something none of us in this room could ever understand. And that, that is what's motivating him to save democracy, okay, by preserving our right to have neo-Nazis call me a cuck. So you call me is better let the free market save this company that's not profitable. But speaking on Twitter, the only trend that matters this week is the World Cup. Okay, yeah that's right. And every every trend, every trending topic is someone versus someone, USA versus Iran, Morocco versus Belgium. You can't see anything but World Cup hashtags.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Okay, it's so bad. I don't even know who Pete Davidson is f-fix right now. Okay? That's how unclear my feet is. It's just buried under inane soccer tweets from idiots like this guy. You see this? Look at this. Lionel Messi, what a player. Do we need this? Do we need this? What a player? What a tweet? What a discovery! Oh my God! This guy should quit his job and become a soccer scout.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Whoever he is? Because he's got a real eye for finding the best player in the world for the last two decades. Listen, Pete Davidson could be fucking Kathy Bates right now, and I wouldn't even know because of trash like this cluttering up my feet. Anyway, I gotta go. My mom just sent me a video of me as a baby playing in the forest or something. I gotta go watch this. All right, back to you, Trevor. Ronnie Chang, everybody. Oh my God, I'm so cute. Thank you so much for that.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And you should check out Messi. He's pretty amazing. All right, when we come back, Michael Costa will give you the secret to the Daily Show. You know, with the global economy looking shaky, you may be wondering where you can safely invest your money. Well, Michael Costa has you covered with an opportunity you can't miss. You know, with the global economy looking shaky, you may be wondering where you can safely invest your money. Well, Michael Costa has you covered with an opportunity you can't miss. When you think of successful markets that have thrived during the pandemic,
Starting point is 00:17:12 while so many others have perished, you think of Zoom, Amazon, sweatpants, and haunted dolls. That's right. Haunted dolls are big right now. Now, I'm not usually an occult guy but to survive in this economy I'm willing to make a deal with the undead. But first I had to find out more about the business and who better to teach me than Cat Blowers, the number one seller of haunted dolls on eBay. Be scared of demons, be scared of negative energy. But other than that, if you're interested, you should jump in with both feet.
Starting point is 00:17:45 You are literally in the business of ghosting people. When did you notice that the haunted doll business was skyrocketing and that you are basically the Jeff Bezos of haunted dolls? I started in 2014 and there was only a few shops. Now there's probably 50-60 shops for haunted dolls. How many dolls would you say you've sold in the last year? Probably a thousand. There's money in this?
Starting point is 00:18:10 There is. I've seen a haunted doll go for $4,000. Woo! Okay, now cost is into it. of doll sales from the IRS is what made a haunted doll a haunted doll. According to haunted doll sellers, any doll that was inhabited by the soul of a dead person was prime for selling, but what made one haunting more expensive than another? When you say haunted, for me that sounds scary. You're also saying that there's a positive haunting?
Starting point is 00:18:42 Absolutely, and I try to keep most of my stuff on the positive side. Oh, you mean the baby with its legs ripped off? Actually, that one's not that positive. Right. What if it's like a really evil spirit? I actually do charge a little bit more. I don't want the little young kids to be able to afford it. You can sell a human soul. eBay. There was a ban. Who was selling too many human souls? You have to have a disclaimer if a ghost caused you to murder your wife. Isn't capitalism fascinating?
Starting point is 00:19:10 It can be. That's about 25% of the business and people send them to me and right now I have a two and a half year waiting list for evaluations. Yeah. What? What? Write down everything you know about the doll so when I open the box I know what I'm dealing with and talk to you in the the the the the the the the the the the to you in the the to you in the the the to you in the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the to the to the to me me me to me the the the the to me to me me to me me me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I's. the. the. the the the the the the te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. the te. the the know what I'm dealing with and I'll talk to you in two and a half years. The rest of the business is people contacting me looking for a haunted doll. Are you looking for a little kid? Are you looking for something that's going to challenge you? Are you looking for something that's going to scare your neighbors? There's spirits that will attract to your house. There's spirits that will attract love. Wow. Clearly Catherine was selling these haunted little hot cakes, but who are the everyday folks buying these haunted dolls? Hi, oh I know it. It's you. I know you. Hey. Yep. The Stormy Daniels.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Stormy Daniels. Stormy's doll, Susan was purchased in 2011 and is said to be cursed with a uniquely malevolent spirit. We believe Susan belonged to a little girl who died in 1955, and it definitely had something to do with a stomach issue. Before we even started shooting, the producer on set here wanted to touch her, and you said, don't do that, you, you, pants. Yes, three people that I slept with in a
Starting point is 00:20:27 row she attacked. They had stomach problems and back issues pretty much immediately. She's more mischievous. I've never felt like I was in danger. What has Susan added to your life? She adds protection when you go into these places that could be dangerous. Okay, but is Susan really worth that much? I have been offered $7,500 for her once and $10,000 for her once, but she is not for sale. She has her own TV show. She's on VH1's the real life. Anyone who follows her Instagram will know this little plastic bitch, and ferraris.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Is that her handle this little plastic bitch? It should be. She is definitely living her best afterlife. So I went back to Cat to learn about the highly scientific analysis process used to identify a haunted doll. So bells, okay. After studying the extensive tools needed and the strict procedure, what if the UPS guy rings the doorbell? That screws it up. I knew if I was serious about getting into the business of haunted dolls, the next step had to be trying out the haunted product to see what all the fuss is about.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Her name's Jennifer. She is about seven or eight years old, and we think she was murdered. Is it to thi thiiiii. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin' thin' thin' thin. thin' thin' thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tooo. too. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. too that she was killed by a white man? Yes. Probably. What is it with the white men lately? What would Jennifer cost for someone? 60, 70 bucks, probably? Yeah. Okay. All right, Jennifer. Uh, sorry you got murdered.
Starting point is 00:21:56 So I left with my free trial named Jennifer, and I took a video diary to record my feedback. Hey, so day one with Jennifer. I don't know if I really get it yet. The only thing I can report I have had some violent dreams. There was a river of blood and there was stabbing, but still better than what I was dreaming about before, which was the state of this country. So I think I'm starting to get it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Did you make this for me? I don't know if she's following me or if I just bring her everywhere. I can't do this with you watching. Thank you. The soul of this doll has excellent comedic timing. It's just great having someone around who laughs sad jokes. She is a haunted doll and I know what I'm saying and it sounds crazy but it's just it's wonderful. Nice to meet you nice and I know what I'm saying and it sounds crazy, but it's just, it's wonderful. Nice to meet you, nice to meet, I'm gonna kill you. Just kidding.
Starting point is 00:22:51 The trial is over, and I can't get into this business. Sending Jennifer back to Catherine is the hardest thing I've ever had to do. Jennifer. You gotta go. Get in the box. Thank you so much for that, Michael. I stay tuned, because when we come back, the legendary Pam Greer. We'll be joining you right beyond the Daily Show. My guest tonight is an iconic actor you know from films like Foxy Brown and Jackie Brown
Starting point is 00:23:37 and she's here to talk about the new podcast season of her TCM podcast, The Plot Thickeens. The final episode drops December 6th, and you can catch up on the whole season, wherever you listen to podcasts. Please welcome the the show. Welcome, to the show. Welcome, to the show. Oh my God. Give an applause, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:24:13 The legendary Pam Greer. Trevor. Hey. What are we going to do when you leave us? Ooh, come on! Well I'm not leaving life. No, but I look forward to you and hearing you and thank you and keeping me laughing at its great stuff. Thank you for humanity. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I thank you very much. I thank you. Because I feel like, and I'm not the only one who thinks this if it weren't th th th you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you the to you the to you to you. to you. to you. to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I the the th. I the the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the th much. I thank you. Because I feel like, and I'm not the only one who thinks this, if it weren't for you, so many of the movies that we know in love today wouldn't have been possible.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Because everybody who knows Phil knows that if it weren't for Pam Greer and what she did with all the movies that she made, there wouldn't have been black women on screen kicking ass the way that we see them today. You were the original action star at a time when black women weren't allowed to be portrayed like that. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, as you know, as a filmmaker, you have to develop an audience
Starting point is 00:25:18 to be prepared for a woman performing martial arts, where there is internal Kung Fu external karate and external and jumping and firing firearms and I'm from the black west. Don't wear about my guns, we're about my chainsaw and we make moonshine okay. So but I wanted to bring that culture to film to help not pontificate to anyone with filters and fear of me a woman walking in a man's shoes. You know what I'm talking about. Hey, in the blue sweater. But to let everyone feel comfortable that they really, my grandfather, Daddy Ray in my biopic and everything that's happening.
Starting point is 00:25:58 He said, Pammy, I want you to fly ties, go fish and bring the boat and I want all the girls to be self-efficient. And if a woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman woman a woman woman woman a woman woman woman woman woman a woman woman woman woman woman the woman the woman the woman the woman the woman th woman the woman thi woman the woman thi woman to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the thuu. the the. the the. the the. the thea. the to to the to to to to to the to to to to to me. to me. to to meies, go fish and bring the boat, and I want all the girls to be self-efficient. And if a woman can do something, a man will respect you. Wow. And I've had that. And so that gave me the courage to fall, get hurt, but to show that women are just trying to be the best we can be. So when you don't come home from war, we don't cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut the grass, we're to come, we're to come, we're to come, we're, the the to come, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, their, the grass, we didn't paint the house, we welcome our men who may not come home. But we can do it and you're proud of us. That is beautiful. And you really, you really did create something completely new and completely different.
Starting point is 00:26:34 In the plot thickens, the podcast, what I love about it is we go through your life and your journey. There are a few human beings who have lived, it almost feels like a hundred lives in in one lifetime you know it's Gumpion force Gumpion that has this shit that happened to me come on are you kidding me it to be the first week I'm off the turn-up trick literally I get to sing back up with Bobby Wilmack he says hey I have a friend that has is recording tomorrow night now I'm I'm literally sleeping in a garage trying to get into film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film film the film the film to the film to the to the to the to the to the the to the to the the to to to the to to to the to to to the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s sive. their sive. their. their. their. their. the. tm. tm. tm. tm. tm. tome. tome. tome. tome. tome. tome. tbe. tbe. tbe. tborrow night now. I'm literally sleeping in a garage trying to get into film school at UCLA. Okay, okay you're gonna be seeing for working for Sylvester Stewart. Pooty cat? What kind of Sylvester name is that? Okay, okay I can do it, I
Starting point is 00:27:15 sang gospel in Denver, I play keyboards. So I go, CBS and in the director, the manager says, have you sung with Wonder Love before? And went? Wonder Love? Stevie Wonders back? No, I'm poor and I live in Colorado and I've come out here to go to school. And he says, OK, well, tell Sebast you want to meet him. OK, so he walks him over to this big window in a sly, a sly,
Starting point is 00:27:38 a sly in the back, Buddy Miles. He had already started a band of gypsy, so I get to sing, go to sleep. Elevator opens, here's three guys in the elevator, a big black dude in the center with a hat and two white dudes on the side, walking down the hallway and I'm going, I smell petulial. It's Jimmy Hendrix. What? And the band of gypsies coming to jam with Sliding the Family Stone.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Where are the tapes? What? Yeah, and he goes at, hey, brother, man. But I'm like a zombie. Like, don't be stupid, Pam. You got, she can sing. She's country. Don't the tapes? Come on now, I couldn't have planned that.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Where are the tapes? Can you imagine? I don't know. Maybe you can find them. I feel like every story in your life is this. You know, like you said, you grew up in a world where you're going out with legends and icons, you're becoming friends with them, you're working with them, you're creating and you become the legend and the icon. I would love to know when you've been part of this documentary that looks back on your life,
Starting point is 00:28:52 you know, when we're living life, oftentimes we don't take stock of every single thing that we've experienced, but when you get to hear it back, when you get to tell it again, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, when the, when the, when the, when the, when the, when the, I I I I the, I the, I I the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they.lipe, the, th th th throwne, th throwne, the, the, they, the, they, the, the, the, the, the, the get to tell it again, sometimes you appreciate it even more. I would love to know when you look at it again, what is like one of the biggest moments, not of success, but where you go, wow, I cannot believe that I lived through that moment in my career. I lived through Richard Pryor. I really loved him and he loved me. He thought I was a funny bitch around. That sounds like something Richard would say. I really loved him and he loved me. He thought I was a funny bitch around. I made him laugh. His horse Ginger from the mudbone folklore. The horse was injured. And I come from Western Stock Horses and grew up,
Starting point is 00:29:33 the horse saved me, my family. And I had to take him to the vet, but I didn't have a truck or a horse trailer. Richard's in a bathrobe crying. He's going I's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. thi. thi. I's thi. I's thiore. thiore. thioreen. the horse was the horse was thi. the horse was the horse was the horse was the horse was the horse was the horse was the horse was the horse was the horse was the horse. the horse. the horse. the horse. the horse. the horse. the horse. the horse. the horse. Richard was was was was. Richard was. Richard was. Richard was. Richard was. Richard was. Richard was. Richard was. Richard's the horse. Richard's the the the the horse. Richard's the the thi. Richard's thi. Richard's thi. I's thoved. I was thooooooooooooooos. I was injured. I was injured. I was like no you don't have to kill anybody we're gonna put the horse in my Jaguar he says but it's a it's a jagged it's a four-door 76 x-j elf banana yellow but you say you're gonna put the horse in the backseat of the jagged I said I'm gonna go pull in and you push Richard we're gonna get the horse in the jaguar the horse the tire the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th the I I I I tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' the the the the the the the the the shocks go boom the tires go boom and get in the car Richard with your ashy ankles in your bathroom go get in the mother's car okay we get in
Starting point is 00:30:10 the car we drive down the 405 no way to the vet yes way and and all of a sudden I like the car the fish tail and all over the place with the horse in the back and and white people say there's there's two negroes in the car with with the w w w w w w w w w w i the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they's they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th is th is th is the is the is the is the is the is their their their their their their their their their their their their their the back seat of an English car to jag. And we're all over, and they're saying, where's the vet? Where's the vet? They said, follow us, follow us. And so we've got a train of people. Shoot your train.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Following us to the vet with the horse in the back seat. To get, you know,the funniest bitch I've ever known. You're funnier than me. Saved her life and he realized that I loved him. And I didn't want him to fall off the wagon because he was trying to get his stuff together. And I would do anything. When you really love someone, you don't abandon people you love. You abandon people you're using. And I never you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th. thi. thi?? thi? thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thiiiiiia. I'm thiiiia. I'm thia. I thi. I thi. I're using. And I never use him.
Starting point is 00:31:07 What do you think it was about you that immunized you from a world where you've talked about this, you know, in your biography and you've talked about this in your stories. So many of the people around you who were brilliant, they were icons. They were geniuses. They were geniuses. But they were also addicted to drugs. Drugs were really, you know, destroying who they were, many people going to rehab some, never making it out. And yet you managed to escape so much of that. What do you think it was about you? I can't drink gin. I'm part Native American.
Starting point is 00:31:35 The juniper bear makes my brains. I remember at my debutante ball, I had a slow gin fizz and I wasn't supposed to have it. And I remember someone said said someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone. I said I they they they they they th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I I remember someone said they saw me jumping off a table in my mom's wedding dress, fighting duking it out. I think I because I've had four attacks. One is a child and then again at seven and then an 18 and 20 I fought a family trauma many of you know about from my book and I found my pain is different. And I find such joy in watching, but my joy is infinite and I find such joy in watching these geniuses escape their genius. It's scary. You can't repeat that. Who's going to play Miles Davis again? Bitches brew on a chart. Who's going to do that? Nobody.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Who's going to do a lot of the music that's done today and it's not being written because it's not going to be played 40-50 years from now? That's genius. And you have to play it over and over and over again in your show every night or at a concert. What do you do? Take the fear and anxiety away. I can do it, I create it, I've got to do it again. Eight shows a week. That's a test for yourself. And your discipline. And you've got this out here. It's hard to keep it out there. What genius that you created, note by note, bar by bar.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Everyone who writes classical music, pages, volumes of it is like, yeah, they're gonna do something. Because they're gonna have to recreate that. Wow. Or sell it to someone. And so when you do that, and when they say, well, who's gonna fill my shoes? I said, it can be filled because there's a lot of women that come up to me and say, Pam, thank you. I was criticized for being a tomboy. No, you ain't a it's okay but it just be the best that you can be. That's what makes you so legendary is you you forge the path you know you don't know how many people will be inspired by it and now you're there on the other end tying it up again for forging the path for the next Pam Gre thank you so much to join me on the show thank you to the the the on your biopic, on your life. We appreciate you so much. Pam Greer, everybody, we're gonna take a quick break.
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