The Daily Show: Ears Edition - February Democratic Debate Special | Rahm Emanuel

Episode Date: February 26, 2020

Trevor examines the 10th Democratic debate live, Jaboukie Young-White interviews LGBTQ voters about Pete Buttigieg, and Rahm Emanuel discusses his book "The Nation City." Learn more about your ad-cho...ices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:33 Live from Comedy Central's World News Headquarters in New York, the Daily Show with Trivinoa Presents. Vodgassum 2020, the Daily Show with Trivernoa presents, Vogueasm 2020, the South Carolina Democratic primary debate. Finally, a state with black voters. Welcome everybody. Thank you so much for shooting and welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. This is the Daily Show. We're coming to you live. 100% live. Take a scene, let's do this thing. We're completely live, people. I can prove that we're live. Think of a number. This is the Daily Show. We're coming to you live. One hundred percent live.
Starting point is 00:01:23 We're completely live, people. I can prove that we're live. Think of a number. I'm thinking of the same one. All right, the South Carolina Democratic presidential debate has just wrapped up. And guys, it was a little crazy. Tom, I think she was talking about my plan, not yours. I think we were talking about math, and it doesn't talk about math and it doesn't take two hours to do the math because let's talk about what it adds up to. We don't, you wrote the crime bill that you come from, that's called, Tommy come lately. You didn't write that bill. I wrote the bill.
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Starting point is 00:02:25 Because the stakes could not be higher, people. This debate is the last one before the South Carolina primary this weekend. And remember, a few days after that is Super Tuesday. That's when 14 states all hold their primaries at the same time. And they do it at the same time because they got a deal on Groupon. So, every candidate tonight needed to do well. But there was one candidate who needed it more than anyone else. Former New York Mayor, and the only candidate not allowed to ride a roller coaster,
Starting point is 00:02:55 Michael Bloomberg. The debate was a disaster for Bloomberg. Michael Bloomberg, who had a pretty horrible first debate. I think that's a fair statement, right? Bloomberg was awful. Michael Bloomberg fell flat in his face. When Mike Bloomberg was in the last debate, whoa. If you're Mike Bloomberg, you were so bad at that first debate, it's good. It doesn't matter how much money you're spending. He got hammered in front of 20 million viewers.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yes, Michael Bloomberg was so bad at that first debate. He got slant by everyone. CNN, NBC, Fox, even The Bachelor. Yeah, last night. Pete told Maddie, he was like, listen, I know I messed up, but not as bad as Bloomberg messed up at the debate. I mean, come on a chance. So, Mike Bloomberg was praying for an easier debate this time. But it doesn't seem like it worked, because right from the start, Bloomberg was already on the back foot. Senator Sanders, we haven't had a national unemployment unemployment this low for this long in 50 years.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Here in South Carolina, the unemployment rate is even lower. How will you convince voters that a democratic socialist can do better than President Trump with the economy? Well, you're right. The economy is doing really great for people like Mr. Bloomberg and other billionaires. Oh! I feel bad for Bloomberg. The question wasn't even about him. He's just minding his business over there. And out of nowhere, like he must be the first billionaire in history to get hit in a drive
Starting point is 00:04:22 by. That's never happened. And Bernie didn't give him a chance. Like he doesn't mess around. If Bernie was a boxer, he'd be the kind of boxer that would hit you in the locker room before the fight. Just come in and be like, it was gonna happen either way. I'll see you out there. Boom! Come on. Now if Bernie Sanders was the ass-wipping appetizer, Elizabeth Warren brought the main cause. You know who's going to be in Charleston later this week? Is Donald Trump? He's going to be here to raise money for his buddy Senator Lindsey Graham.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Who funded Lindsay Graham's campaign for re-election last time? It was Mayor Bloomberg. He dumped $12 million into the Pennsylvania Senate race to help re-elect an anti-choice right-wing Republican senator in 2012. He scooped in to try to defend another Republican senator against a woman challenger. That was me. It didn't work, but I gotta watch. Man, when it comes to Bloomberg, Elizabeth Warren is relentless. She destroyed him in the first debate. She came after him again tonight.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I bet when he got in his car lot and she just popped up in the backseat like, oh, and another thing. thing. So Bernie kicked off the debate by attacking Bloomberg and his fellow billionaires, right? Then Senator Warren came in, slamming Bloomberg for bankrolling Republicans. And if Bloomberg was worried that he was coming across as a corrupt billionaire, it really didn't help him when he made a really bad slip of the tongue. Let's just go on the record. They talked about 40 Democrats.
Starting point is 00:06:05 21 of those were people that I spent $100 million to help elect. All of the new Democrats that came in and put Nancy Pelosi in charge and gave the Congress the ability to control this president. I bought them. I got them. That's embarrassing. It's not a good look. There are a ton of democratic candidates that I bought, I mean that I own, I mean that I pay, I mean that I bribed, that's poor people's words, that I supported, that I supported, that I supported.
Starting point is 00:06:36 That I supported. That I supported. So Bloomberg didn't do himself any favors with that answer. And for two reasons. One, money in politics is one of the things that most people are angry about in this country. And secondly, you probably shouldn't brag about buying people in South Carolina. So, it looks like Bloomberg is going to keep reminding us, every single debate
Starting point is 00:07:00 how much money he's able to spend. And I guess Pete Buderje's strategy is to keep reminding us that he would like like like to like to like the money to like to like the money to the money to to the money to the money to the money to the money to the money to the money the money to the money to to the money, the money, to the money, to to the money, the money, to be to be the money, to, to, to, their, to, to, their, their, their, their, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money able to spend. And I guess Pete Budaje's strategy is to keep reminding us that he would like some money to spend. Grassroots contributions are the lifeblood of my campaign. In fact, I shouldn't miss the opportunity. If you're watching right now, and you're watching right now, and you support my campaign, go to Pete for America.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And if you're watching right now and you're a billionaire, I will raise your taxes. But if you'd like to defeat Donald Trump, please go to Pete for America.com and donate the legal maximum of $2,800. You see, folks, that's what happens when you let a teenager join the debate. They stop talking about policy and they ask you to raise their allowance. And then after that he asked Gail King to drop him at home after the bait. Please, my dad cancels my Uber account. Now as weird as that moment may have been, one of the strangest moments of the night easily belonged to Amy Klobuchar.
Starting point is 00:07:56 You see, in the discussion, in around. Now, she was trying to position herself as the one Democrat who is for limiting guns, but also understands gun culture thanks to a really special family member. We've got a win in the middle of the country. Having someone that can lead the ticket, that can bring people with her is the way you get gun safety legislation. I look at these proposals and say, do they hurt my unclean, I thau, I tham, I tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, thuuu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, and their, and thus, and the, and the, and tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, and tho, and their, and thu, and thu, and thu, and thu, and thu, and thu, and thu,they hurt my uncle Dick in the deer stand? They do not. Uncle Dick in the deer stand? And where's Aunt Vagina in the Beaver hot? I feel like even Uncle Dick was sitting at home watching that like
Starting point is 00:08:50 I think at a debate you can call me Richard. It's a very serious moment. I will say though Senator Klobershop that is a great campaign slogan if you think it was just like, leave that dick alone. That's 10% of the vote right there. Now you have to remember this debate was like, leave that dick alone. That's 10% of the vote right there. Now, you have to remember, this debate was in South Carolina, the first state where black voters hold sway. So all the candidates made sure to show everyone that they were down with the Brown.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Every single policy area in the United States has a gigantic subtext of race. We have a criminal justice system today that is not only broken, it is racist. We can no longer pretend that everything is race neutral. There's seven white people on this stage talking about racial justice. And I know that if I were black, my success would have been a lot harder to achieve. Yes, that's right. That's right. If I was black, I wouldn't have gotten as far because my police would have slammed me against the wall and fished me. And then I would have said, wait, it's me.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And they would have said, shut up, Blackie. And then they'd search my pockets and be like, who's $60 billion is this? And I'd be like, it's th it I was white. We've heard that before. I'm not going to lie, man. The Democrats did have some interesting ideas around race. It was really interesting to hear them talk about. I wish they would talk about it more. Tom Stier proposed funding black business owners, specifically Latino business owners people who have been disenfranchised.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Amy Clobuchar talked about the struggles black people have. It was great to hear. But once the white privilege PowerPoint presentation of the evening was done, it was time to get to the main event, going after Bernie Sanders. Can Americans trust that a Democratic Socialist president will not give authoritarians a free pass? I have opposed authoritarianism all over the world.
Starting point is 00:10:45 What I said is what Barack Obama said in terms of Cuba, that Cuba made progress on education. Barack Obama was abroad, he was in a town meeting. He did not in any way suggest that there was anything positive about the Cuban government. Authoritarianism of any stripe is bad. Period. That is different than saying that governments occasionally do things that are good. And when dictatorships, whether it is the Chinese or the Cubans do something good, you acknowledge that.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Okay, now, to be fair, to be fair, I think people have been a little too hard on Bernie on this, right? The Fidel Castro thing especially, because all he's saying is something that Barack Obama also alluded to, that Fidel Castro, as bad as he was, did some good things, like education. That's it. Think of it like the Count from Sesame Street. Just because you commend him for teaching kids math, doesn't mean you're condoning the fact that he's a vampire who sucks the life out of untold numbers of people. How many dead drifters in the alley? One, two, three, dead drifters.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. But at the same time, Bernie, you have to admit, when people ask you about Castro, that's not the best time to mention his record on education. It's bad timing. If your wife is yelling at you saying, I can't believe you cheated on me with all those ugly women, that's not the time to be like, some of them were beautiful. Some of them were really beautiful. That's not the time. And that wasn't the only attack that Bernie had to face.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Because you see, now that he's he is he's he is he is that he's that he's that he's that he's that he's that face. Because you see, now that he's the frontrunner, he has everyone else gunning for him. Vladimir Putin thinks that Donald Trump should be President of the United States, and that's why Russia is helping you get elected so you'll lose for him. I am not looking forward to a scenario where it comes down to Donald Trump with his nostalgia for the social order of the 1950s and Bernie Sanders with a nostalgia for the revolutionary politics of the 1960s. Bernie in fact hasn't passed much of anything. I do not think that this is the best person to lead the ticket. I think I would make a better president than Bernie. I'm hearing my name mentioned a little bit tonight.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Uh huh. Bernie's a legend man because your name wasn't being mentioned, Bernie. People were screaming it at you. Although I guess for him, shouting is so normal, that when people shout at him, he's like, what a pleasant conversation for a change. I'm so sick of everyone whispering. Yeah, people's normal voices are like, ASMR to him. Now look, it's not surprising. It's not surprising that this happened.
Starting point is 00:13:26 It's not surprising that all the moderates went after Bernie Sanders tonight. Because what's clear in this campaign is that as long as so many moderate stay in the race, none of them are going to overtake Bernie Sanders. So they're going after him, but they're splitting the vote of them is going to be able to beat Bernie is if all the other ones drop out. The problem is that none of them can seem to agree on who that person should be. Some of these candidates are going to have to start dropping out. People like Amy Klobuchar, people like Tom Stier.
Starting point is 00:13:56 The Budgegege campaign is calling on Mike Bloomberg to drop out of the race. This comes after a Bloomberg campaign memo suggested that Biden, the Biden, the Biden, the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, the, the, thee, thee, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, the, the, and, is, is, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is is is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, and, is the, and, and, and, and the, is thean, and thean, and thean, thean.ean, thean, thooooooomomomorrow, and thean, is thean, is thethat Biden, Buda Judge, and Klobuchar actually drop out. Of course, I think it would be beneficial if everybody else were to drop out and support, say, my campaign. How do you convince Amy Klobuchar and Pete Boudijjjjj to get out of the race? It's really time now for Klobuchar to get out of the race. I have the one to do it. It's like a super high stakes version of being the first one to hang up.
Starting point is 00:14:30 He's just like, you drop out first. No, you drop out first. No, you drop out first. Look, I spent half a billion dollars on this campaign. You drop out first. So look, it seems like as long as all the moderates decide to stay in the race, Bernie is going to have a pretty clear path to win the nomination. And it seems like Bernie realizes it.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I mean, just based on his new campaign ads. Hi, I'm Bernie Sanders. I know the pundits are saying there's too many moderates in this race, but I think all of you would do it a great job. Amy Clobershah, why, why, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi,. Why would you drop out? You came in third at one time. That's what I call momentum. And Mayor Pete, if anyone says you should drop out, you tell them to go to hell in one of the seven languages you sort of speak. What's what happened?
Starting point is 00:15:14 And Tom Stierier? Oh, and Mayor Bloomberg, keep spending all thii. You're sending all your money on those ads. If there's two things Americans love, it's you and watching commercials. And Tom Steyer, you should quit and stop calling me. It's getting creepy. I'm Bernie Sanders, and I endorse everyone staying in this race. All right, everybody, we'll be right back. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
Starting point is 00:16:02 But that's all about to change. Like, none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Show. One of the most interesting stories of the 2020 election has been the rise of Pete Budaje.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And no matter what you think of his candidacy, you have to agree that it's pretty amazing that a gay man can be a serious contender for President of the United States. But what do LGBTQ voters think about this moment in American politics? Well, we sent Jabuki Young White to sit down with some of them to find out I'm here in New York City, gay capital of the world except for Berlin, San Francisco or Congress here to talk to some LGBTQ voters. Anyway, I've come to the Leslie Loman to talk with LGBTQ voters about finally getting the gay presidential candidate we've all dreamed of.
Starting point is 00:17:08 So if someone told you 10 years ago that there was going to be a gay presidential candidate, how do you feel like you would have reacted? Because I know for me, I would have been like, who told you I'm gay? Was it Kevin? No, I would have believed it, but I would think it would be a woman, though, though, though, thua, thua, thua, thua, tho, tho, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, told, thi, to be, to be, told, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, told, told, told, told, told, told, told........ We. We. We. We. That, to. We. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t. to. the. the. to. the to. to thea. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. it would be a woman though. Ten years ago, Barack Obama was still evolving about marriage. It's a real leap to think that 10 years later we would have a viable, queer candidate for President of the United States. But being proud of Pete doesn't mean that we're voting for him. Raise your hand if you plan on voting for Mayor Pete in the primary.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I don't think it's possible for me. There's nothing that you could do to make you vote for him? No. Our community actually has a bit of a shameful history in the sense that gay, white men have historically marginalized the contributions of trans women and trans men and people of color. I am trans and, you know, knowing there's going to be a cis gay presidential candidate doesn't do anything to make my life any safer as a trans woman. And that's the divide.
Starting point is 00:18:13 According to my unofficial poll, the type of gay you are determines whether you trust Pete to represent you. A lot of people will say that he's not queer enough or he's not gay enough. He's gay enough if we can hold his feet to the fire to make sure that our voices are heard. I live in South Bend and I work with Black Lives Matter South Bend and those are, they don't have trust for Pete. So you want him to wear a leather harness and you want him and chase him to open their relationship and you want them to be Polly. We just want him to actually pay attention to the policing problem.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I had a face-to-face with him, and I asked him, what are you doing about the police brutality in Indiana? And he kept saying, oh, this is what I want you to do. I want you to push me. I don't need to be done. Okay, so you're not asking him to be more gay, you just want him to care about the margins. Correct. I want him to care about the margins and leave the dockers at home.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Pete's rainbow booty shorts are actually just a pair of relaxed fit dockers, which is why I wonder if his mainstream appeal is that you can kind of forget he's gay. As much as we can say that Pete's brand of queerness has problematic aspects, don't you think that that actually makes him electable? For example, look at this. That is my brand of queerness. We don't have a picket fence, but that looks like a picture of my husband and me. The word that's not there is first family.
Starting point is 00:19:40 That is something America can get behind, I think. I see it as a disappointingly sanitized version of what it means to be gay. To a lot of critics, this looks like this. Ah. They're less a gay couple, and more so just like two guys who decided to make granola in their kitchen. They're clearly gay. And if that's not gay enough for the people in this country, I don't know what would be. So it sounds like the takeaway of this conversation should be, if Buda Judge does not eat his husband's
Starting point is 00:20:16 ass on live TV, he is not gay enough for me. I'm out. How about this? Gay people, we're basically straight. No. I mean, the takeaway is also that for a lot of voters, you can't just choose gay. You also have to think about your race. Okay. Pete Buda Judge, black people don't like him because of the police stuff and
Starting point is 00:20:41 homophobia or something. The black people like him. And a lot of black people don't. Pete Buda Judge, a lot of black people don't like him. But some do. Can you imagine how fun it will be to watch a gay, married, Midwestern mayor destroy Donald Trump? Okay, I hear you.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Pete Budajjjjj, I'm taking Trump to pound town. No one wants to see that. So then, what the the the the the tham the tham tham tham thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thiol thiolk. town. No one wants to see that. No. So then what is it? I think the takeaway should be that the LGBT community is not a monoliths, and the first gay presidential candidate means very different things to very different people in our community. Whether you believe Pete is the visibility we spent decades fighting for, or just another centrist white guy who's
Starting point is 00:21:25 easy on the eyes and the police, the gay community is making it clear. If you want our vote, you better work, bitch. I can't, I can't say that. What the fuck does that even mean? Oh, oh. Chibuki Youngwhite, everybody. We'll be right back. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to the show. My guest tonight is a former member of Congress, White House Chief of Staff, and two-term
Starting point is 00:22:33 mayor of Chicago, whose new book is called The Nation City, why mayors are now running the world. Please welcome Ram Emanuel. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Before we get into the book, we just watched a Democratic debate, which has gotten a lot more exciting than it has been in the past few debates. You've been involved in democratic politics specifically for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:22:58 How do you think the democratic race is going? Well I think here's how I look at it. What's interesting, just one observation, is that viewership of the debates is up, but participation in the primaries is not. It's not beating 2008 when we had record turnout. So that concerns me. In 2018, 2019, we had record energy and right now the debates are not producing the type of energy you want to see. So I have a small, flashing yellow light saying a little concern on that. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It, it. It, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, is, is th. It is the, is the, is the, is thi, is, is, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is is is is their, is is is is their, is is is their, is is is is their, is is is, is is is, is, is, is is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, their, their, their. their, their, their, their, their, their, the debates are not producing the type of energy you want to see. So I have a small, flashing yellow light saying, a little concern on that. It can always flip, but right now I'm a little concerned about that.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Oh, right. And also, the other thing is that I have a new respect for my family Thanksgiving dinner. It looks a lot calmer, compared to this. It does seem like it has become a lot more testy. You know, Bloomberg stepping into the race might have been a catalyst but it feels like as the field narrows people are going to be fighting. The stakes are higher. Yeah. You were in the D. Triple C. You have been part of helping Democrats win major elections, you know, helping Bill Clinton become president, working with Barack Obama as his chief of staff. Here's a question that maybe you would be mostly uniquely positioned to answer. We have two theeeeea thea thea thea thea the. It the the. It the. It the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, the, it the, it the, it's th. the, thi, thi. thi. thi. the. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Yeah, th. tri. trike. trikee. trikee. trikee. tria. tria. tria. tria. tria. trik. trik. trik. trik. trik. answer. We have two mayors on that stage.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Three. Three previous mayor with Bernie Sanders, yes. But two mayors, you know, just stepped out of being mayor, saying that they want to run the country as president. Yeah. Does a mayor have the prerequisite experience to run a country? You've worked with a president and you've been a mayor. How much of it gives you the experience you need?
Starting point is 00:24:25 Well, first of all, a lot, I would, you know, the number one job before being for president was governor. All four governors have been thrown off the island basically and you're now left with mayor. In England, the mayor of London has just become the prime minister. And the experiences of dealing with, when you think about where you live, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the numberyy.s.s.s. the number, the number one one one one one one one one one one.s. the the the the the the experiences of dealing with, when you think about where you live, where you work, how you get to work, the things around your neighborhood from libraries to parks. Those are all services local government deal with. When you look at the major issues on climate change, cities are leading. When you look at the major cities, Chicago, we made community citae. We made community college free So the things that are major in the sense of inclusive economic growth, climate change,
Starting point is 00:25:07 immigration policy, mayors are taking that lead. And the other piece of this, two other pieces of this. The second piece is you actually fail in the job, and you learn then from that experience. And legislating, it's not really about failure. Give one, I used to say to President Clinton, the the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, th, th, th, to, the, the, th, th, th, th, the, the, th, th, the, th, to, to, the, to, the, the, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, and to, and to, may, may may may may may, may, may may may may, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m. M, may, m. M, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, m. M.m. M., well we knew by the first year of the second term, we'd be geniuses. Right. And if you go back in history, think about President Kennedy. He had the Bay of Pigs, a mess, realized the Joint Chiefs didn't know what they were talking about, took a study of it, and when it came to the Cuban missile crisis, he he he he he he he he he he the Cuban missile he he he he he the th. he th. he to to to to to th. to to to to to th. And when, and when, and when, and when to th. And when to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. And, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th.. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thea. the. the. toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And came to the Cuban Missile Crisis, he knew how to handle it. And mayors stumble all the time. And then the other piece of that, and then pick themselves up, learn from it and apply a future. And then the third piece...
Starting point is 00:25:51 But wait, let me ask you this before you go to that, though. So if that's the case, if mayors are running the world, then why not every mayor is running to be president, but I think the real thing is, of what is happening is you have a global economy, but all politics is local. And 75% of the American people have confidence in their local government, and that number is in the mid-20s for the national government. And I do also think one other thing. We're really ripping apart. In the city of Chicago, this is this is this is th new thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. thi, th. thi, th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thea. toooooooooooooooooooooooooo. tha. tha. tha New York, it's true in LA, it's true in a lot of cities of all sizes. We have 145 languages spoken in our city. Many different face, cultures, backgrounds, but the aspiration of a parent regardless
Starting point is 00:26:33 of where they came from is the same for their child. And mayors form a community and a sense of belonging and in a period of time of alienation and distance that sense of belonging gives to thiiiiiiiiii something th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to, thi. thi. to, to, to, to, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, to, the the the the the the thi. And, the the thi. And, thi. And, thi. thi. thi. thin, thin, thin, thi. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to, thi. And, to, that sense of belonging gives you something that is really an asset going forward where your diversity really can become a strength rather than a liability. So let me ask you this then about the book because I understand what you're saying about you know being a mayor who's bringing people together. In the book you talk about the journey that you've been on as a mayor, you talk about the challenges that makes being a mayor unique in how you're dealing with people versus just larger issues?
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yeah, I mean, you're, you know, as there's a part of the book where I talk about, I mean, you celebrate together, you have moments of joy, moments of joy, and then you work through a lot of issues. You are in toub tou with the people and in many ways, I mean people give you, especially in Chicago, there's thumbs up and there's another digit they can also tell you. And that happens all the time.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And I think that happens in the, that was a cleaned up version for me. I really, I'm proud of myself. That's not, that's very unusual for me. So the fact is, the Chicago Star Scholarship you got to be average we make community college transportation books free I saw the relief on parents' face that they didn't have to pick which child got a chance to go to college they didn't have to take a second mortgage on their home to give their child a chance at the American dream and their relief of the sense that they could be a good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good their they their they could be their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to be their to be to be their their their to be to be their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their toea. toea. toea toea toea. toea. toea. their their their their their their their their the could never get for themselves but for their children. That can only happen at a local level. Now I would love to have had a federal partner, but I had to make sure
Starting point is 00:28:09 every chance, every child had a chance of that future. And you do talk about that and you have been given a lot of credit for what you've done in the education space in Chicago. At the same time you've taken a lot of fire, you know, education. In education, right, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thi. thee. thi. thia, thia, thr-a, thrownea, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have toe, every th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. tea. tea. tea. toda. toda. toda. toda. today. today. today've taken a lot of fire for closing down schools that were predominantly black or Latino. People have said, you know, mayor, why did you close down those schools in areas where people needed it the most? You know how important it is to have black and brown kids in school learning, growing? You closed those schools down because you said they were underperforming. A lot of the teachers went on strike and they said you weren't catering to their needs. Where do you think you could have done better or what do you think you could have done differently? So the first part is when I ran in 2011, Chicago had the shortest school day and the shortest school year in the United States of America.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I made a pledge to get that done. That our children were not going to be cheated three years of education compared to a child in Houston. tholk. thol. thol. th. the th. their their their. I. I. I. I. I. I, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thea, their, tha, tha, their, their, their, their, th. So, th. So, th. So, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the a the a te. So te. So, tea. tea. tea. So, tea. So, tea. So, tea. So, tea. So, te. So, te. So, te. So cheated three years of education compared to a child in Houston. Now I could have said, hey, when I got elected, this is really hard, and then people be angry I gave up on a pledge. I made that pledge and I wanted to see it through. It led to a seven-day strike, but in the end of the day, our graduation rate went from 56 to nearly 80 percent. Our reading scores and mass scores, and sometimes in many,, rose and sometimes in many ways set national standards. So being a mayor, you're going to, if all you want to be loved, don't run for that job. If you want to make a decision where the decisions you make and you put your thumb on the scale, and the difference between a 56% graduation rate and an 80% graduation rate is is the te kids can believe in themselves and they have a chance chance chance chance chance......... Ch Ch Ch Ch Ch Ch Ch Ch Ch Ch Ch.ed.ed.ed. I. I. I. the the the the their. their. their. their. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. te. te. te. to. te. to. the te. the te. the the. the. the. the. the. the. thselves and they have a chance at a future. And that's what public life is about. Right, but do you ever, do you ever wonder why, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:48 people in Chicago, not all of them, I cannot speak for all of them, you know more than them obviously, but in Chicago, there was a term that some people used for you, where they would say, Rom was an amazing mayor for the one percent? You know and you know and you know and you know and you know and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, and you know, that, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th......... th... th, th, th, th, th, the the the the th, the the the th, the th, th.... th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. than, than, than, thooo. thoooo. the. thoo. thoo. thooo. tho. tho. People tho. Where do you think that came from? Well, because we did a lot of things, and let me say this, we never get a subsidy at any of the sports teams. We expanded the minimum wage. We created a universal full-day pre-K.
Starting point is 00:30:12 We also eliminated all the tax subsidies that companies were getting, and companies were getting that. I get the politics of it. But I also know when you made a major dent in the food deserts where there were no grocery stores within a five mile of a neighborhood and a community on the south side of the west side. That was not just a job and that was not just a grocery store. That was also the respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect respect that, the respect, that, the respect, the respect, the respect, the respect, that, that, the respect, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, but that, but that, but that, but that, but that, but that, but that, but that, but that, but that, but that, but that, but, but, but, but that, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the. I I thi. I'm, but I'm, but I'm, but I'm thi. I'm thi. thi. that community. That comes with politics, and I get that. Let me ask you about an interesting trend and dilemma
Starting point is 00:30:47 that America faces. On the stage tonight, we had two, as you said, three former mayors with Bernie Sanders, but two who say the mayor was their last public office job. And those two are also the two that are taking the most flack for their relationships with the black communities that they served and the police and how they treated them. You yourself are a mayor who's come under fire for the way your police treated the black community in your city. You know, the Laquin-McDonnell case was one where people said you could have done a better job in releasing the video, you could have done a better the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tree, tree, tree, tree, treat, treat, tree, and how, and treat, treat, and treat, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and how, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the police, the police, the police, their, their, their, their, their, t..a, t.a, t.a, t.a, t.a, t.a, tr-s, tr-s, treatyy, tr-s, treats, treats, treats, treats, treats, treats, treats, treats, job of communicating with the community and it felt like you were protecting the police. Is it the case in America where mayors seem to be protecting
Starting point is 00:31:28 the police more than their constituents? No, well, the other thing I would say is you saw that Amy Globuchar had a background as a prosecutor. She's also come on the fire. So if you're involved in that. And every mayor, as well as in the prosecutors, are making efforts to get both good public safety, which is the number one priority for your responsibility, as well as do it in a way that is good policing. You work at it every day. There's not just a point you hit at it. And the fact is, whether it's Mike Bloomberg or Mayor Pete, Amy Globuchar,
Starting point is 00:32:01 others who also are getting criticized, Joe Biden for his support of violence against women, but also the 94 Crime Act. People are now coming under attack or that, and people are looking at it different. And then the question is, how do you apply to the question, how do you apply thoan. to find thoiii. to find the basis of community policing. So if you're looking back, I'd they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. thi. to. thi. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. People. thi. People. thi. thi. thi. th. People. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha. thin. to. toe. toe. toe. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. People. People th you look back and you go like, man, I could have done something different.
Starting point is 00:32:25 I wish I could have changed that. You do talk about that in the book. You talk about how you wish you could have changed some of the ways you treated the policing issues or how you would have dealt with them. I have always been fascinated by this. Is it the case that as mayors, there's a part of you that is afraid to go up against your police unions because of how much power they hold in re-electing you or is it really just a symbiotic relationship where the mayor goes I'm with the police no matter what? No, actually I think I don't want to speak for
Starting point is 00:32:57 all the mayors but I would say this making a major change in both the laws and the culture while also executing on public safety......... the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I I is the. I is thi. thi. thiol-in, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. thi-in is is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi-in is is is is is is is is thi-in is is is is thi-in is thi-in is the-in is the-in is the-in is the-in is the-in is the-in is the. the is the is the is toe. tea-upea-isea-isea-iskea-isksea-isks. to-isks. to-ise. the-ise. while also executing on public safety. Both doing both of those simultaneously, not one at the expense of the other, takes a tremendous amount of leadership. So prior to everything happening in Chicago in 2016, I had the first ever city to make a volunteer agreement with the ACLU. To check policing whether it was done right. We did the safer commission. And we also did the first ever, only ever, city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city city, the city, the city, the city, the city, the city, the city, the city, the city, the city, the city, the city, the the the to, to, the to, to, to, to, the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the to, to, the to, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tea, toe.a, toe.e. toe. we also did the first ever, only ever, city to do reparations for prior acts of police department 20 years prior to my tenure. No city's ever done that. I thought we had addressed it. The problem and the
Starting point is 00:33:33 depth of distrust was much deeper than I accepted and understood. And while we were fighting crime every day, visiting a parent who was in the hospital alone, seeing the depth of what happened and being isolated because you as a parent who is in the hospital alone, seeing the depth of what happened and being isolated because you as a parent could not protect your child, what happened on the streets, that happens. And then at the same time, you're trying to make changes. You're trying to do both of those. And so it doesn't, what you understand is that the problem is a lot deeper than people
Starting point is 00:34:02 understood and appreciated. And the fact is you have to make changes because policing needed some of the insurance, oversight, and regulations that had not cupped up with community policing and make it true community policing. I have one final question for you before we let you go. I can talk to you forever about the book and your job, but you did it from the few things you've said, not just in the interview, but in the book, you've said it's not easy, it's a thankless job,
Starting point is 00:34:27 everyone's gonna hate you at the end of it, you're gonna do your best and you're gonna work your hardest. Knowing what you know now, it's not like a comedy show. Knowing what you know now, would you do it again? Oh, absolutely, let me say this, I've had the greatest public life working for a senior advisor of President Clinton, Congress, chief of staff for President Obama, mayor. Mayor over here, all those three together,
Starting point is 00:34:50 mayor's far better. The highs are unbelievable. The lows are unbelievable. But as mayor of City Chicago, I now know the children at the age of four, not at the age of six, get an education. We added four years to a child's education. You can't do anywhere and you know the trajectory of their lives because you did that. You were willing to spend your political capital and your popularity to make a difference in a child's life. But
Starting point is 00:35:15 former life I was going to become an early childhood educator. Not that I would recommend you give your kids time with me, okay in that effort. But having known that, the known that you can make and to take on a battle and change a person's life in the trajectory. You know, there's a saying in Rabbi Hillel, who are you if you're not for yourself? What are you if you're only for yourself, if not now, then when? My late father said that to me on my bar mitzvah. And he says, your responsibility now that you that you that you that you that that that that that that is that is that is thiaia is thia is thineineineine is thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi, th is th is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And thi. It is ti. ti. ti. tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. And ti. And says, your responsibility now that you become a Jew and an adult is to know that you can make a difference in somebody else's life. That is the most rewarding thing you can do in public life is give somebody else a chance of having a better life.
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