The Daily Show: Ears Edition - "First Man" Flag Controversy & Backlash Over Nike's Deal with Colin Kaepernick | DeRay Mckesson

Episode Date: September 5, 2018

Trevor looks at high-profile boycotts, Democrats cry foul at Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court confirmation hearing, and DeRay Mckesson discusses "On the Other Side of Freedom." Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to Comedy Central. The future of America is in your hands. This is not a movie trailer, and it's not a political ad, but it is a call to action. I'm Mila Atmos and I'm passionate about unlocking the power of everyday citizens. On our podcast, future hindsight, we take big ideas about civic life and democracy and turn them into action items for you and me. Every Thursday, we talk to bold activists and civic innovators to help you understand your power and your power to change the status quo. Find us at Future Hindsight.com or wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome to the Daily Show everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in. We're back.

I'm Trevor Noah. Our guest tonight, ladies and gentlemen, Dorey McKesson is here! We're today, thanks to-night. Our guest tonight, ladies and gentlemen, Dorey McKesson is here! We'll be talking about his new book on this side of freedom. But first, let's catch up on today's headlines. Today, Bob Woodward, the reporter who brought down Richard Nixon, gave us a sneak peek of his brand new book that might bring down Trump. I mean, it probably won't, but it's pretty funny.

Some stunning, breaking news, even in this administration, two years in, explosive new details from legendary journalist Bob Woodwork's new book about President Trump. Listen to this, this guy is mentally retarded Trump's set of sessions. He's the dumb Southerner, Trump told Porter, mocking Sessions by fainting a southern accent. Okay, I don't know what's worse. The fact that the President of the United States is running around calling people retarded, or the fact that the person he called retarded is his attorney general

and his first major political supporter, you realize that. Also, it's pretty weird that Trump is running around doing accents when he hasn't even mastered his own. You talk so funny. Like it's also disgusting and hilarious at the same time, because now I'm picturing Trump in the White House acting Southern, just running around like, Yehah, I'm a real Southern gentleman.

Look at me, drinking moonshine, making sex with my daughter. In other news, while we were away, as you know, Senator John McCain passed away. It was a somber moment for the country, but if you were watching NBC when they interrupted their normal programming to break the news, it was even more of an emotional roller coaster because this is what actually aired. Breaking news, NBC News, confirming the death of Senator John McCain at the age of 81. This has been an NBC News special report. We will return to our regular programming on the NBC Network. Our live coverage continues on MSNBC. I mean it looks bad but how is NBC?

But how is NBC going to know John McCain would die when they were showing half-naked d'hawked as? I mean it looks bad but how would they know that? But how was NBC going to know John McCain would die when they were showing half-naked dudes dressed as dolphins jerking each other off. How would they know that? Now in case you're confused, this was an episode of America's Got Talent, a show that has clearly been on too many years.

Because I mean it started out with kids doing backflips through fire and now next season's winner is just going to be a guy unjamming a laser printer. Like what is this? But yeah, it was funny to see something so serious, cut to something so ridiculous. I feel like that's what's going on constantly in President Trump's brain. Like they'll be like, sir, the North Koreans have deployed a nuclear missile. He's like, ah, yes, very bad, very bad. Very bad. All right, let's move on to our top story. to to to be a rocket scientist to know that America under Trump is more politicized than ever. Because although this country has always had its issues, people used to be able to escape

by turning off the news. But now, politics is just like a track featuring CardiB. It's everywhere you go. And just this week, politics even reached the moon. This morning, a controversy over Ryan Gosling's upcoming movie, First Man. It explores the life of astronaut Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the moon. But the film is coming under fire weeks before its release for a moment from that historic mission that isn't shown. The film, which premiered Thursday at the Venice Film Festival does not include that famous moment where the American flag is planted on the moon's surface.

Several conservatives are even pushing for possibly a boycott of the film, but actor Ryan Goslin, who plays Armstrong, defended the decision by saying that Armstrong's moonwalk, transcended countries and borders. This was widely regarded in the end as a human achievement. I don't think that Neil viewed himself as an American hero. Okay, Ryan Gosling is such a beautiful idiot, all right? Like when Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon, he didn't say this is a giant leap for mankind.

He said, one small step for man, America, fuck yeah! Yeah, ble ble ble ble ble ble ble ble ble ble ble ble ble ble ble ble bleh briblah, ah, ah, ah, ah. You didn't hear it because of the vacuum in space. Now, honestly, like, I don't understand why conservatives are so angry that they're planning to boycott a movie about America landing on the moon. Because apparently, they are American flags throughout this movie, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the planning to boycott a movie about America landing on the moon. Because apparently they are American flags throughout this movie, right? They just didn't show the exact moment that Armstrong placed the American flag on the moon.

But no one is going to walk out of that movie and be like, wait, were those astronauts Korean? I couldn't tell. And also on the other side, I don't think that Ryan Gosling is right. I don't think that it wasn't an American thing. The moon landing was very much an American thing and to be honest as someone from the rest of the world we don't want credit for America's moon landing right because I don't know what happened up there. We saw the astronauts come down, they planted the flag and then the video video the video cuts off right. All right for all we know as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as soon as that as that as that as that as that as that as that as the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. to be. to be. to be. to to to to to be. to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to be. their their their their their that clip ended they did a genocide of all the native moon people is just buried them in a mass grave somewhere on the dark side of the moon and then someday the moon people are gonna come down to earth and be like you guys did this to us and we'll be like oh no we didn't do that the Americans did it you can see the flag the flag the flag that that that that that that that th th th that th that tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the many conservatives have said that they will be boycotting this

movie. And then the liberals said, oh yeah, well we'll boycott something too. Facing mounting pressure, the New Yorker has dropped plans to interview Steve Bannon during its festival next month, the former Trump aide was supposed to be a featured guest at the New Yorker's prestigious gathering, but numerous celebrities and even some New Yorker staffers scheduled to attend the event threatened to pull out if Bannon participated. Okay, I don't know what the New Yorker magazine was thinking.

I mean, like, how are you going to invite a white nationalist like Steve Bannon to be the headline interview for your Ideas Festival? I mean, this is a man whose least defensive idea is that scabs are edible. And because of Bannon, because of Bannon, many people canceled, right? John Malaney pulled out, Jim Carrey pulled out. I was so offended by this that I refused to even be invited months ago, months ago. Seriously, like I don't know how the New Yorker didn't see this backlash coming. Like you invite Steve Bannon to anything and there's going to be backlash. Like, there have been raccoons who have left the dumpster because Steve Bannon dropped in

for a visit. But in any case, now many liberals say that they'll be breaking up with the New Yorker. And then just yesterday came the biggest boycott news of the new campaign to celebrate 30 years of Just Do It, including an ad with Colin Kaepenic that says, believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything. Yeah, which seems really uplifting with Kaepenik's photo, but it's also the motto of many gambling addicts, don't forget. Now, millions of people, millions of people love this ad. I love how some of you are catching it later.

Millions of people love this ad. Like it went viral all over the internet, but then the other shoe dropped. Some outrage after Nike picks Colin Kaepernick is the new face of its 30th anniversary, Just Do It campaign. This is scummy, this is lousy, this is rotten, and I'm never buying another Nike product again and I think millions of Americans are going to agree. Several people posting videos on social media burning Nike shoes, ripping logos off their clothing. Wow! People are so angry they're burning their own shoes.

You realize Nike already has your money, right? They've already got your money. You're only hurting yourself. Like, I would love to see how they would protest Home Depot. All the walls in my house must go! And also, I'm not gonna lie, I don't know about you, but those flaming Nikes just make me want to pay even more. Like, look at them.

It's like, it's almost like an ad. It's like, those shoes so fast, he burst into flames, man. And I'm not gonna lie. I love this campaign. I love the idea of the campaign. I love what Colin Kappenik is doing. feel a little bit bad for all of these people who are out there on the alt-right and conservative because you realize we live in a world now where brands are taking stands on political issues, but they don't give anyone a warning first. They just spring it on you. Yeah, some of these

dudes were walking out of the store yesterday with their new Nike and people like, yeah, and they're holding the box like, wait, what? No! No! I just needed art support! No! So as it stands, some people say they're now going to buy Nike's to support Colin Kaepenik's protests and others say they'll never buy Nike's again because the shoe disrespects the troops. All I know is it's only a matter of time before we ask as many questions about the politics of a product as the product itself. It's going to be us walking into stores where the service guy coming up like, hey buddy, can I help you with anything? Be like, yeah, I really want to buy this toaster,

but first, what are its views on abortion? Can you let me know? We'll be right back. the future of America is in your hands. This is not a movie trailer and it's not a political ad, but it is a call to action. I'm Mila Atmos and I'm passionate about unlocking the power of everyday citizens. On our podcast future hindsight we take big ideas about civic life and democracy and turn them into action items for you and me. Every Thursday we talk to bold activists and civic innovators to help you understand

your power and your power to change the status quo. Find us at Future Hindsight.com or wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Show. So America could soon get a new Supreme Court justice, which we'll be covering all week in our brand new segments, so you think you can judge. Today was day one of the Senate Judiciary Committee's confirmation hearings for Brett Kavanaugh. President Trump's Supreme Court nominee and guy who definitely reads all the reviews

before he buys a garden hose. And I know Brett Kavanaugh is not a Supreme Court justic-sounding name, right? Supreme Court judges are supposed to have names like Oliver Wendell Homes and third-good-s. Like Brett Kavanaugh sounds like a name of a relief pitcher with a disgusting gote. That's what it sounds like. But, but, but, Kevinah actually has a long resume. He's been a federal judge for over a decade, and before that, he was a lawyer in the Bush White House. And before that, he was an egg in his mother's womb.

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Now Now, people who are not under investigation by a special counsel might want to know more about Brett Kavanaugh, but they can't. Because Republicans are currently blocking the release of 100,000 pages of documents from Kavanaugh's time working in the Bush administration. And even more dickishly, Republicans did release 42,000 pages of other documents, but only last nights. Yeah. Which is just mean, I mean, you can't read that much in one night.

That's not even enough time to get through the new Eminem album, right? I mean, I know it's only 11 tracks, but you have to keep rewinding it just to be like, wait, did he rhyme ostentatious with black? So with all this shadiness, people are coming out pretty hard against Kavana. There's been protests, there's been rallies, there's been speeches, people even showed up today dressed in handmaid's tail costumes. Yeah, that's a real thing. But apparently Republicans prepared for this. Because believe it or not, they held mock hearings for Kavanaugh, where Republicans pretended to be protesters so that he could get used to it. Which is hilarious because now I'm just picturing Mitch McConnell acting like a resistor.

He's just there like a hand's off my uterus. Ma. Man, this pussy grabs back. Ma'a. So, because of all of this, this week's hearings are shaping up to be one of the ugliest ever. In fact, just listen to how the first minute of day one went. Good morning. I welcome everyone to this confirmation hearing on the nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

Mr. Chairman. I'd like to be recognized for a question before we proceed. The committee received just last night, less than 15 hours ago, 40,000 pages of documents that we have not had an opportunity to review or read or analyze. We cannot possibly move forward, Mr. Chairman. I extend a very warm welcome to Judge Kavanaugh to have a meaningful to have a meaningful hearing on the nominee. Their two daughters. Mr. Chairman, I agree with my colleague Senator Harris.

God damn. Chuck Grassley does not give a f-hick. They were shouting at him from all directions and he didn't stop. Like I wondered, did they prepare him for that as well? Did they just put him in the New York subway? And they were like, no matter what happens, just keep reading. And everyone was like, I'm sorry to interrupt, but people were like, it's showtime.

Some people was like, you want to buy some candy? Everyone's just standing over him. Someone was jacking think this freaks me out. I work with Ted Cruz We'll be right back to the show. My guest tonight is a civil rights activist host of the crooked media podcast, Pod Save the People, and author of the new book called, On the Other Side of Freedom, the Case for Hope.

Please welcome, Dorey McKesson. It's good to be back. Welcome back to the show. Yeah, it's good to be back. This is crazy because you're one of the few people who back to the show. Yeah, it's good to be back. This is crazy because you're one of the few people who has been on the show twice. You look older. Thank you.

I'll take, distinguished, I think, I would prefer. You're also one of the few people who's worn the exact same outfits. Oh, no, no, no, you know it's great. Like, honestly, I didn't know many of the stories behind the Y. Many people know you, DeRae, they go, oh, blue vest, we know the vest. We know the story in the book about the why really touched me. Why do you wear that vest and why do you keep that exact same vest? Yeah, people forget that we were in the street in Ferguson for 400 days, you know?

So if you ever saw it's marching, it wasn't we thought marching was cool. It was illegal to stand still in August, September, October 2014. If we st still for more than five seconds, we were there for so long that it got cold and I needed something that would keep me warm and this kept me warm. If it got too cold, I put a hoody on under it and that was good. And I keep wearing it because it reminds me that that stuff was real. You know, like I had this vest on when I was tear gas when I was shot at with rubber bullets, like when I hit under my steering wheel all tho tho' th and th th th th th.... and th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. the, the, the, the. the. the. that's, that's, that's that's that's that, that, that that was that was tho-a, tho-I that was good that was good that was good that was good that was good that was good it was good it was good it was good it was good it was good it was good it was good it was good it was th. th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And the. And the. And the. And the. And thean. And that, that, that, that, thateat, thateat, thateat, thateateat, that, thateateat, thateateauuuuuu. And that, that, th me. Right, when you look at that journey and we look at the book, on the other side of freedom, the case for hope, do you feel like you're hopeful about America's trajectory? Yeah, yeah, I think about hope is a belief that our tomorrows can be better than our today's. And I think about hope is like real work, not hopeful.

that. And I'm hopeful in that way. Oh that's really interesting. So so you're someone who's been on you know the front lines of many discussions you know it was black. It was black. You're one of the faces that people turned to to try and and explain the idea. People were like is this anti-copn't anti anti anti anti anti anti anti cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the the the of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the they. the the the the the the tie. the the the tie. of. of. of. of. of. of. of. of. of., is this anti-everything that is not black, and you had to speak on that. And, you know, you've spoken out on many issues. You've seen yourself as somebody who wants to speak about what's happening in the world. The book is about a combination of two things.

It's you in your personal life, and then the world that we now live in today. How do you think who you are as Doreem is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is the the to to the to the to the to to the th to th th to be to be today. Yeah, you know, it's important for me to talk about some of the personal stuff. I've never written about being a gay black man in the movement or in the world. I write about that. My mother left when I was three thirty. Right. I remember about these things because they shape the way that I think about memory, the way that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I name something you can buy for $300. Name something you can buy for $300. Uh, seven copies of Madden.

Today in Florida, theft over $300 is a felony and if you become a fellin you permanently lose the right to vote, which is wild, right? But when people think about felons, they think that everybody like robbed a bank, killed tip people. But it's like, imagine like losing the right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right, to to to to to to to to to to to to th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. to th. to to to th. th. thi, to to to to to to to to th. to th. th. th. th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the th. the thi. thi. thi. to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to toeiiii. to to to to to to to to to thea. the. people but it's like imagine like losing the right to vote as an 18 year old because you like stole seven copies yeah seven copies not me not me seven copies of men right you know it's one you know it's one you talk about all of these things like there's a section in the book here where you really go into the statistics and what's interesting is when you're talking about police violence specifically you speak about police violence across the board. So it's not like a black issue, just call Americans. This is how many American people have

been killed by the police and you have a year where a thousand people were shot by the police, which is a high number for any country in the world and then you see a disproportionate number of that amount of people being black as well. What was even scarier was that these statistics weren't be the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff.caupea.ca.c.c.c-c-c-n't, thoes. Wea. I, th. I'm, th thi. I'm, thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. I. I. I's, thi. I. I. I. I. I. I's, thii. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's, thiii. I. I. I. I. I. I's, thiii. I's is. I's is. I's the. I's the. I's the. I'm t t t t t t t te.a. te. te. te.a.a. toe. toe. And, toe. And, t te.a.a. And, the the the the t t the t t the t even scarier was that these statistics weren't being countered in any way, shape or form. If you get killed in this country and a newspaper doesn't write about you, you literally don't exist in the database because the government doesn't keep the data. So we know the rainfall in Missouri in 1830 and literally don't know anything about police in a past year, that's sort of while a third this country is actually killed by an officer. Like one in 11 homicides in California is actually committed by an officer.

So this is like a big, it's a big deal. Part of the data work we did was like myth busting, you know, black people are actually more likely to be unarmed and not threatening somebody than any other person who encounters a police in a violent situation. That's like, people don myths about the movement. Now when you look at the myths around the movement, I mean you cannot escape the conversation and the narrative that's happening now. Colin Kappenick, the NFL, the Nike commercial that comes out, Colin came out and said, hey, I'm protesting injustice at the hands of police in this country.

People then said, no, what you're protesting is America and the troops and the anthem. Do you think that there is another way that he could have protested? Do you think that there is any way for black people to protest in America that's acceptable? You know, it doesn't seem like, we just stand outside and people are like, you're sort of moment on the daily show right now. I like pushing the police.

It's just a tombstone with your vest. Yeah, that is like, shady. If I like push the police, people, it would be a rap, you know, but like they get to do all that stuff. I think that what's interesting about Colin is that he's just, that he's just, that's just, that's just, that's just, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th.. th. th. that, th. th. th. that, th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thuth. Colin is literally like racism is real and present and people are like oh my goodness and you're like that's sort of what he said right he's saying that we shouldn't play like musical chairs with the status quo we should actually like change things at the root. That's like what Colin saying that's not dramatic that's sort of basic you know what I mean? So if you find have you found a way to protest in a way like have you to have you to have a to find have found have found a to find a to find a to find a to find a to find a to find a to find a to find a to find a to find a to find a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. the the the the the the the the the to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too. too. too. to. to. to. to. the somebody on the other side saying, oh, now that I've seen you protest, I understand what you're saying. Or do you find that the protest just incites more? Like, what is the purpose of your protest then?

I will say, now I'm like, thrown. I'm like, I'm like, tell it's a tel. I'm like, I don't know. I'm, do you have any kids? And he's like, yeah. And I'm like, oh, when should the police kill your child? And he's like, I don't know. I'm like, well, I don't know either then, right? Like, part of it is like, how do we put the work back on other people to have to grapple with this stuff? Like, I'm not here to give speeches. officer that lasts more than a year can never result in discipline regardless of the outcome. You can love the police and think that that doesn't make sense. In Cleveland they destroy police officer disciplinary records every two years. You can love the police and think that that doesn't make sense. Right, right. That's a that's an insane story and honestly what I loved about the

book was the combination of the dates of the anecdotal stories and this and this journey that you are on. Where to from here? I've always wanted to do you see yourself running for office? Do you see yourself as always just being in the activist space? Like what is what is DeRae's dream? Ah, hopefully I look back on this. I'm like, we've to thrown, I'm like, we change all these laws and policies. That's what I want. You know, I'd be remissive I'd remissive to remissive. That it is. And rumor has it that Beyonce kissed you on the stage at the ESPN? No, I would have, I would have, like, I handed her a thing when they were honoring Colin

Kappenick and she was just nice, like, hello. And then people were like, you kissed Beyonce. I was like, I did not kiss Bionse. I would have remembered that and I would not much for being here. I appreciate it so much. On the other side of Freedom, a ready fantastic book is available now. Dorey McKesson everybody. The Daily Show with Covernoa, Ears Edition. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central app. Watch full episodes and videos at the Daily Show weeknights at 11 10 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central app. Watch full episodes and videos at the Daily Show. dot com.

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