The Daily Show: Ears Edition - From the Archives: Anthony Bourdain - January 17, 2018

Episode Date: July 10, 2018

"Parts Unknown" host Anthony Bourdain talks about how his years of travel have shaped his worldview and weighs in on the Me Too movement. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The smartest way to hire. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the th. I the th. th. I am. the th. th. I am. the thiiii. th. th. thi. thoing. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi...., John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Please welcome Anthony Bordain. Welcome to the show.

I've been a fan of yours for so long watching you travel around the world and it was so amazing this week. I guess it was a perfect timing. CNN aired a bunch of your shows, Anthony Bordain, specifically of you in Africa around the same time that the president was commenting on how these are shit-hole countries. Yeah, what a coincidence. Right. You tweeted about the president saying shit-hole countries. Why did it affect you so much? Why did offend you so much? Because apparently I've wasted my life going to shitholes. I mean I've spent 17 years traveling around to extraordinary places. I mean the notion that people don't work hard. Clearly no one on the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their coincidence their coincidence their their. their coincidence their coincidence their coincidence their co. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. their coincidence their co. their coincidence their co. their co. their coincidence their co. their co. their co. their coincidence their co. their co. their co. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I'm. t. te. te. te. te. te. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. Co. their. their. their. around to extraordinary places. I mean the notion that people don't work

hard, clearly no one on his team has been to Nigeria, where people work like no one I've ever seen. It was just deeply, I mean, enraging, to me because it's a refutation of everything I've seen, experienced all the people I've met and everything I've done in the last 17 years. Would you say that that's something that has shaped your experiences and shaped your world view is traveling to these places? Because I mean for many people in their defense, they see images of Africa and they go, oh, that place doesn't look great, but on your show you have gone to, as you say, parts some of the most beautiful locations and some of the most unlikely destinations. Does it

change how you see the people in the places? Yeah, I mean I think Mark Twain said the travel is lethal to prejudice. You know the extent to which you can walk in another person's shoes to see how hard people work and to struggle on a daily basis even for for very little, and the extent of which you see how much people do, how well things are going. I mean, I love showing up in places that thinking one thing and having those expectations turned on their heads all the time. You know, but then again, I'm a fool.

I think curiosity is a virtue. And that's something... Let me ask you this. Like, just on a food level, as a chef, what do you think America would be like if there were no foods from any of these other countries? Well, to start with, you know, good whole American, Southerty's... if there were no food, like if there were no foods from any of these other countries? Well, to start with, you know, good whole American southern food, as we know it, you know, classic Americana wouldn't exist. I mean, that, if you spend any time in Ghana, you see

exactly where, you know, food that we associate, tend to associate on Food Network with, you know, old white ladies, we, we, we, this is African food. So look, the history of the world is on your plate. Every plate of food is an expression of a long, often a long struggle, a long story. And I guess that's one of the satisfaction, one of the joys of traveling and eating is you You've got who's cooking and why and where these things come from I mean I grew up in the early 60s American food then or your options were extremely limited, you know, so the more we have people from somewhere else bring in their food chain and ingredients and traditions

life only gets better. When you when you look at that statement, the bringing their food chain and ingredients and traditions, life only gets better. When you look at that statement, the food telling you a story about the people, not just the people who are preparing it, but the people who are eating it, which I think is a beautiful statement, if someone was to eat cheeseburgers every day all the time, what do you think that would say about them and their culinary tastes as a person? 239 pounds apparently? Apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi, thi th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi, them and their culinary tastes as a person? Two hundred thirty nine pounds apparently. Yeah. You know, I think it's worth noting, it is reported that President Trump in his year in Washington, D.C., which is a very good restaurant town, has never been to any other restaurant than his steak house at the Trump Hotel where he eats well done steaks with ketchup. You're hurting me. I know, I know, I'm doing this on purpose.

That hurts. I'm interested in him. Do you think he can use chopsticks? That sounds like an insult, but it's a valid question. I'd be curious. If that was like on the test to determine whether or not you could be president's, I think America might be like calling him President Pence right now. Let's move on and talk about, you know, the journey that life has taken you on.

Anthony Bordain Parts Unknown, it's taken you on many journeys, you know, you've grown as a person. One of the more painful and I would think interesting journeys you've taken on your life happened just very recently with regards to the Me Too movement happening, not just in America, but in many parts in the world. Your girlfriend was one of the people who first came out and exposed a story regarding Harvey Weinstein. Your comments posted were really interesting because not only were your supportive, you felt disappointed in yourself because there were many women you had now heard stories from who didn't tell you the stories and you regarded them as friends. Yeah. Why were you disappointed in

yourself? You know, I came out of a brutal, oppressive business that was historically unfriendly to women. I knew a lot of women, it turned out, who had stories about their experiences, about people I knew, who did not feel I was a sort of person they could confide in. And suddenly, because of my association with ASEA, people were talking to me. And in fact, I started speaking about it. I have a sense of real rage. I'd like to say that I'm, I arrived at, I was always enlightened in some way, or that I'm an activist or virtuous.

But in fact, you know, I have to be honest with myself. I met one extraordinary woman with an extraordinary and painful story and who introduced me to a lot of other women with extraordinary stories and suddenly it was personal and, you know, that woke me, to the extent that I ever woke up, that certainly had an effect. So, you know, I think like a lot of men, I'm reexamining my life. And, you know, I get worked, I wrote sort of the meathead Bible for a restaurant employees and chefs. And, you know, I look back, like, I hope a lot of men in that industry and say, you know, not so much, you know, what did I do or not do, but what did I see and

what did I let slide, what did I not notice? You know, I think that's something that people are going to have to really take into account now. Yeah, it is something that the movement is definitely demanded of men in all industries. And I think what was particularly painful was you expressed it so honestly, you know when Mario Batali's story came out. and the the the they, and they, and their, and their, and th and th and th and th and th and their, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi.ei.ei.e.ean, thi.e.e.e. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi, Mario Batali's story came out, and then other chefs came out. And these are people who you regarded as friends. These are people who, you know, in a nuanced world, people struggled to understand that

may still be a friend, but how do you grapple with that? Like, how do you wrap your head around that? What do you aim to do going forward? Where you go, like, as Anthony Bordaintermo, to, thian. And, thian. And, thian. And, thian. And, their, thin, thin, thin, their, th. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and their, and, and, th. And, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, they, they, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, I have access to this world, you know, of chefs and of restaurants. What do you aspire to know? It's been a long time since I've been in the, it's been about 20 years since I've been in the industry and I have been removed from it. But I mean, you know, look, no matter how much I admire someone or respected their work, you know, I'm pretty much

being the merciless on this issue right now. I'm not in a forgiving state of mind. I mean, that you are in now involves not just traveling around the world, but helping people of diverse backgrounds have a voice, writing cookbooks, telling their stories about their parts that are unknown. You Anthony Bordain, you could have just done it for yourself. Why was it so important for you to get these people involved and to help them get their stories out there? You know, I'm one of those annoying people if I read a book thiiiiiii. thii. thi. to to to their to to to their to to to their and to help them get their stories out there? You know I'm one of those annoying people if I read a book

or see a movie or listen to a record that I really really like. If I could I'd come over to your house and shove it in your hands and then sit there and you know listen to it with you to make sure you don't miss any of it. That is an annoying person I know I'm that is an annoying person. That is an annoying person. That is an annoying person. That is an annoying person. I'm a thiiiii. That is an annoying person. That is a thi. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm a to be. I'm a to be. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm not. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I's. I's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to listen. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'm. I'm. I'm a to to the to to the the the the the the the the the the the toe. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. those people. Yeah. I'm passionate to the point of being evangelical about things that I love that give me pleasure and make me excited. And, you know, I didn't really, I didn't travel until I was 42 years old. I spent my whole working life in kitchens. I've seen nothing of the world. So this is all still relatively new to me.

People have been very kind, we have had, I feel very, very fortunate. And so, you know, as a publisher of, as somebody who puts people from all over the world on television, you know, to a great extent, it is a selfish act because I'm having fun. Right. I enjoy it. It makes me feel good. But I'm also, you know, coming to as many people as houses as possible and sitting down next to them and watching the movie with them and saying, you know, I want you to notice this. I want you to see how awesome these places are. I don't feel like I'm an advocate or a spokesperson for anything. I'm just, you know, I'm an enthusiastic son of a bitch. And I, you know, I'm having a really good time and the things that make me happy, you know,

especially if it's somebody who I feel is not reaching a wider audience. Well, I'd like to, I'd like to help. I love them, man. Anthony Bordain, enthusiastic son of a bit. Thank you. Thank you so much for game on the show. Season 11 of Anthony Bordain, Cots on Milne Camille, Camille, Camden, everybody. The Daily Show with Cover Noa, ears edition. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11,

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