The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Georgia's Primary Voting Disaster | Joe Biden

Episode Date: June 11, 2020

Georgia voters endure long lines and faulty equipment at the polls, and former vice president Joe Biden discusses police reform and running against President Trump. Learn more about your ad-choices a...t https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Hey everybody, I'm Trevor Noah. Welcome to another episode of the daily social distancing show. On tonight's show, I'm going to be joined by Joe Biden, former vice president of the United States and presumptive democratic nominee for president. We're gonna be talking about his response to the Black Lives Matter movement, his proposals for police reform and what he's searching for in a running mate. Also on tonight's episode,
Starting point is 00:01:00 Georgia's primary is a catastrophe, gone with the wind is gone from TV, and why baby names are changing forever. So let's get into it. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. to the Daily Social Distancing Show. the Daily Social Distancing Show. the the tea. to Trevor Noah.
Starting point is 00:01:21 the Year's addition. Okay, first up, since the murder of George Floyd, activists and protesters around the country have been rallying around the slogans, defund the police and abolish the police. And while that hasn't happened yet in our cities, it is happening on our TVs. The popular TV show cops officially canceled. The Paramount Network made the announcement today just four days after the show was pulled from the schedule. This comes amid nationwide protest against police brutality and calls for police reform. The series has been on since 1989 and faced backlash for its depiction of law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Okay, I think when people were asking for cops to be cancelled, this was not what they had in mind. You know what this is like? This is like when you make a wish with a genie, but you aren't specific enough. I wish I was in the NBA. No, not as a ref. LeBron, that's a travel. And you know if you ask me, I can't even believe that cops lasted this long.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I mean, this was always such a weird show. Who comes home from a long day at work and is like, I want to unwind, you know, let me watch some broke, shirtless guys get their lives destroyed. It's the only way I can get some sleep. And you know, although this this this this this this this this this this this this might this might this might this might this might this might this might this might this might this might this might thi thi thing, like removing cops from TV, I'll be honest. I think this is a move in the right direction. Because people take for granted how our perceptions of the police are shaped by the shows that we watch on TV.
Starting point is 00:02:56 So when we hear about police brutality, a lot of people are like, well, that can't be right. I grew up watching shows like Miami Vice and Starsky and Hutch and Hawaii 5O and all the cops they never did anything wrong. In fact if you think about it even when we used to watch cop shows about a policeman violating somebody's rights or you know beating them up to get a confession what would we think as kids we wouldn't judge that cop because of how the story was told we'd be like this cop is trying to do his job but the Constitution is to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the the to to the the to the to to the the to the cop. Because of how the story was told, we'd be like, this cop is trying to do his job, but the Constitution is holding him back.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So, no more cops. And that isn't the only problematic content that's being removed from American TV. This morning an American cinema classic gone with the wind has been temporarily pulled by the streaming platform, HBO Max. For years, the movie has been considered controversial for its depiction of black people and its glorification of slavery. In a statement, HBO Max writing in part, these racist depictions were wrong then and are wrong today.
Starting point is 00:03:54 And keeping this title up without an explanation and a denouncement of those depictions would be irresponsible, adding the film will return with a discussion of its historical context and a denouncement of those very depictions. irresponsible, adding the film will return with a discussion of its historical context and a denouncement of those very depictions. Man, this is a big move from HBO. They know that millions of people, millions of people love Gone With the Wind. They also know that the movie is problematic because it makes it seem like some slaves were having a pretty good time.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And we know that's not true. I know some people want to argue that. They want to be like, oh, but some slaves didn't have it that bad and some slaves weren't having a tough. Let me tell you something. If slaves were having a good time, then they wouldn't have needed to be slaves. Yeah. The people could have just let them go home and see if they come back. That's how you know people are having a good time.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Another reason you know they weren't having a good time is because no white person ever tried to become a slave. Yeah, no white person was ever like, hey, honey, I'm gonna go and see if they're hiring down at the plantation. I think I could make a pretty good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good know that some people are going to argue that this is just a movie. It doesn't have to be an accurate portrayal of slavery. But my argument is, maybe you wouldn't have to rely on movies if American schools didn't use textbooks that referred to slaves as immigrants.
Starting point is 00:05:22 And if they didn't give out homework assignments, asking people to list the positive aspects of slavery, if you can't count on the education system, then movies are gonna have to pick up that slack. Like, I understand what HBO is doing. They're like, yo, we're gonna have to provide some context because clearly a lot of Americans don't have it. In fact, maybe that's what HBO should do. You know, maybe HBO should make people take a quiz about American history before they
Starting point is 00:05:46 get to watch Gone With the Wind. Question number one, why was there a civil war? Oh, because states wanted the right- Nah, you don't need to watch this movie. Here's a documentary. You come back in a few years and try again. Now, HBO hasn't said how they're going to add context to go on with the the the the the wind to the wind. to to to. to. the wind. the wind. to. the wind. the wind. the wind. the wind. the wind. the wind. the wind. the wind. the wind. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. to. to. tod. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. their. to add context to Gone with the Wind. And it is going to be a tough task. So we decided to do it for them. Scarlet, you know, you get prettier all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Well, I thank you, Ashley. It's the glower never working. Yes, we've traveled a long road since the old days, and we're lazy for everyone. Oh, they weren't lazy for everyone. Warm, still country, Twilight. The high, soft, negro laughter from the Quarters. The what now? Let's get one thing straight. Black people laugh, lye. If we're laughing softly, it means we're laughing at your ass.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Oh, Red, I'd give anything to have to have Tyler Wade before the war. You know she's talking about slavery. You got that right. Then go ahead and make it that way. Spend whatever you want. Make it as fine a plantation as it ever was. Oh, it will be a fine plantation. But it's gonna have to have white labor next time. The South is not gonna rise again, Scarlet.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Great job, Dilsay. Now, while our movies are getting a lesson in racism, we're also making some updates to the movies of reading. Books. One woman is changing the way people look at racism by changing its definition. Kennedy Mitchum contacted Miriam Webster after she saw folks quoting the definition of racism online. Mitchum says the definition should include
Starting point is 00:07:27 that there is a systemic oppression upon a group of people. It is not simply just dislike of someone because of the color of their skin or ethnicity. The editor of Miriam Webster agreed and said a revision to the entry of racism is being drafted. Poof. You know this movement is creating change when even the entry of racism is being drafted. Poof. You know this movement is creating change when even the dictionary is agreeing that they need to update the definition of racism. Because dictionaries can be very slow to embrace change.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I mean, most of these words have had the same definition since I was in preschool. And you know, it really does say something about how powerful this movement is. They just updated an entire word in the dictionary. That is huge. I can imagine if whoever's in charge of math was just like, yo, we screwed up on the number seven. It's a lot more complicated than we realized. And you know, it makes perfect sense to do this. Because there are a lot of people out there who think that racism is only if you were a clanhood or call somebody the N-word. And then if you don't do that, you're not racist. I mean, Amy Cooper, herself
Starting point is 00:08:30 said, oh no, I know what I did was wrong, but I'm not racist. I never did anything racist. But the truth is, and people are starting to realize this, racism as a system is often more dangerous and destructive. You know, preventing black people people getting loans, stopping black kids from getting an equal education. Racial disparities in medical treatment. You know, racism is like the corn syrup of society. It's in everything. So right now, thanks to this movement, the movement in the streets,
Starting point is 00:08:58 we are being forced to look at all of the ways we might be further perpetuating negative ideas that enforced racism in the world. Our TV shows, our movies, the definitions of words. And what's been magical to see is that some corporations and institutions, they've jumped on board. They've jumped on board to say, yes, we can all do better. Well, baby names.com is making a powerful statement in honor of recent protest and the Black Lives Matter movement. The website's home page shows a b. the the the the the th. the th. Our th. Our th. Our th. Our th. Our the th. Our the their th. Our th. Our their th. Our t. Our t. Our t. Our t. Our t. Our t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v. t. t. powerful statement in honor of recent protests and the
Starting point is 00:09:25 Black Lives Matter movement. The website's home page shows a black box with dozens of names along with a message. It says each of these names was somebody's baby. They include Eric, Michael, Flando, Brianna and George. The website posted the names of black people who've been killed many by police. Baby Names.com says it stands in solidarity with the black community. I'm not going to lie. This is one of the most powerful statements I've seen. And from one of the most unlikely places as well, baby names.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Like, because you don't think they would have any way of participating in a conversation about race and racism. But they've shown, they've shown that if you want to be a part of moving society forward, you can find a way. In fact, what they did gave me an idea. All you white people, all you white people right now watching the show saying that you're allies. Why don't you start naming your kids black names that have historically limited black people from getting jobs? You should name your white son Kwame. You should name your white daughter, Makebababababababababababa. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. They's th. They's th. They's th. They's th. They's tho. They've tho. They've tho. They've thi. They've tho. They've th. They've th. They've th. They've th. They've th. They've th. They th. They th. They th. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. th. They. th. th. th. th. th. th. They. They. They. They. They's th. They's th. They've th. They've th. They've th. They're th. They're th. They're th. They're th. They're thi. They're thi. They're thi. They're thooooooooooooooooooooooooo. They're th. They're thi. They're thi. They're thame. You should name your white daughter, Makaba. Yes, and then that way, when corporations are looking through job applications, they won't
Starting point is 00:10:30 know who's black, they won't know who's white. And I'm being serious about this, white people. The only way to be an ally is to give your kids a black-sounding name. Now I'm just joking. There's other ways to be an ally, but you should have seen your face. You should have seen, you were terrified. Yeah. Because I'm just playing, like, you can be an ally in so many different ways. For now, you can keep giving your kids normal white people names like Polo and Danarius. Now, while all of this racial reckoning is going on, it's really easy to forget that this is also an election year.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Last night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night night the the the the the the the the the the the the the also an election year. Last night, Democrats and Republicans lined up to vote in Georgia's primary elections. And when I say lined up, I mean they lined up. Today voters in Georgia were met with long lines and confusion at polling places as they tried to cast ballots in the state's primary elections. From the air, you could see long lines of Georgia voters, socially distanced, stretching through parking lots. Voters reported standing in the hot sun for up to four hours. It's an extremely long wait.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I've seen lots of people leave, you know, there we don't, don't have it understanding employers. We've got to do better when it comes to voting. This is a crisis in our world to make us not exercise our right to vote. Please God, damn, did you see those lines? That didn't look like a voting day. It looked like like the last scene in us. And by the way, kudos to that white woman for using her complaining superpowers to defend democracy. We need to see more of that. Instead of all these white women you see complaining that their ice tea is too cold. Because whether you're black, white, Republican, or Democrats, nobody
Starting point is 00:12:05 should have to struggle to vote. I think we can all agree on that. Nobody should have to wait four hours to vote. This is an election, not the latest pair of Jordans. And that's what yesterday was. It was a struggle, an unnecessary struggle. And the reason it went wrong is because of everything. Georgia, a key battleground state in November, had rescheduled its primary twice because of the coronavirus pandemic. Health concerns kept many long-time poll workers from showing up today, leaving inexperienced volunteers to run new voting machines for the first time.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Poling precincts that were at churches, assisted living centers and senior centers had to be moved because of the coronavirus. Georgia's secretary of state, who oversees the election the election election election election election election election election election election the election the elections, the elections, the election, the election, the election, the election, to to to to, to, the election, the the to, the to, to, to, toe, toe, to, toe, toe, th, thi, and, thi, thi, and, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, thi.e.e.ei.ei.ei.ei.e.e.e.au.e.e.e.a.a.e. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, centers had to be moved because of the coronavirus. Georgia's Secretary of State, who oversees the election, is blaming local officials, saying poll workers were not properly trained. The employees didn't understand the system. So what were they doing for all these months? All of a sudden they wake up and they say let's have an election on Tuesday. One county official firing back at the secretary of state, saying if there was a failure of leadership, it it where the buck should stop at the top.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Now Georgia's Secretary of State has launched an investigation ahead of November's election. You know, it's funny how America has unlimited resources to make sure that countries around the world get democracy. But then America never seems to have the resources to make sure that there's democracy in America. I mean, if Atlanta wants more voting resources, maybe they should just declare that they're a country in the Middle East. Yo, so we're actually Afghanistan, Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:13:31 so can we get some of that democracy cash? And while these issues were happening across the state of Georgia, they were especially bad in black areas. Three quarters of the people who called aline to complain about voting problems were black. And partly, that's because out of the 53 Georgia counties where polling places have been closed since 2012, more than half have large black populations. And I mean, at this point, none of this is surprising, right? We're used to seeing this by now.
Starting point is 00:14:02 In fact, smartphone data shows that in 2016, voters in black neighborhoods across the country waited at polling places 29% longer than voters in white areas. So, as usual, when something goes bad in America, for black people, it gets worse. And it doesn't matter what it is, whether it's policing, voting issues, or winter. Yeah, because the weather channel says it's 30 degrees, but for black people, that shit feels like negative 10.
Starting point is 00:14:32 So once again, America had an election day, and once again, America had a case of severe electoral dysfunction, especially with coronavirus now in the mix. And you know, just like with coronavirus, America has an opportunity right now to heed the warnings before it's too late. Because this isn't just a problem in Georgia, right? We've seen these issues all around the country. And if this happens again in November,
Starting point is 00:14:56 with the presidency at stake, best believe, people are gonna be fighting over a lot more than just toilet paper. All right, we need to take a short break, but don't go away, because Joe Biden is joining us right after this, so stick around. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Earlier today, I spoke to former Vice President Joe Biden about his position on police reform, voting rights and so much more. Check it out. Mr. Vice President, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. It's good to be with you, and it's a big distance now.
Starting point is 00:16:01 It definitely is a big distance. You have been making news over the past few weeks, responding to what's happening in America, responding to what can easily be described as one of the most tumultuous times in not just American but world history. I want to talk a little bit about the up-edd that you put out today. Talk me through how you would plan to undo systemic oppression, th would plan to undo systemic racism and how you think you'll address the needs of the African American community? Well, first of all, it's going to take time. You know, Donald Trump didn't invent racism, but he sure has promoted it. And it's systemic has been real.
Starting point is 00:16:37 The disparities in the country, especially in the economy right now, the combination, there's just an awful combination. COVID-19, unemployment, systemic, systemic, systemic, and systemic, and systemic, and systemic, and systemic, and systemic, and systemic, and systemic, and systemic, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and thi. And, and thi. And, and thi. And, and what's, and what's thia's thi, thia's thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, th combination, there's a, there's just an awful combination. COVID-19, unemployment, systemic racism, and what's happening in terms of the way in which the George Floyd's death took place. I mean, you know, I think about it, when I was a kid, what really changed and sparked the Civil Rights Movement as a kid, I was just involved in it, no great shake, just the high school college student, was that that televi the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, the the the the the the the the the the the thism thi the thi the the rights movement as a kid that I was just involved in it, no great shake, just a high school college student, was that television was around. And television came along when they saw what Bull Connor was doing in Birmingham, Alabama. People went, whoa, I didn't know that really happened in America.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And then now today, everybody, not only should cops be wearing body cams, everybody has a body cam. Everybody has a cell phone. And can you, if the last words of George Floyd, I can't breathe, they would have been consequential, but if they're not seeing him take his last breath, none of this would have been nearly as consequential because people are now saying, my God, did you see that? That's one of those inflection points. It really does feel like an inflection point and it is a difficult one for many Americans to navigate because most Americans agree that there is a problem in policing between police and the black community and even many poor white communities. This is something that we know
Starting point is 00:18:03 when we look at interactions between the police and American people. You have come out in favor of police reform, you know, but what does that actually mean? Because some people think that you cannot reform an institution that is fundamentally rotten in the core. Well, I don't think it's rotten in the core. And I don't think all cops are bad cops. But I think what, look, 90% of all the funding for police comes from local taxpayers. So the federal government under our system cannot, other than taking a civil rights action, say they do A, B, C, and D.
Starting point is 00:18:36 But what we can do is we can make sure that we insist on certain fundamental changes take place now, including giving, making sure their sensitivity training, making sure that all of cops past grievances, or excuse me, transgressions are all made public, because we can say if you don't, we are not going to provide the federal funding that we provide for you through what they call burn grants and cop grants. And so we can, I think, now impact on significantly the desire of many police departments as well to fundamentally change the way they police. You know many activists and
Starting point is 00:19:15 organizers have come out saying there have been repeated attempts to reform many police departments. Were it not for civilian cameras we wouldn't know the truth oftentimes. I mean we've seen three instances in the past few weeks of major police departments being contradicted by video evidence that comes out. So, some would say to you, Mr. Vice President, if you were to become president, do you think that there would be a world where defunding the police would be the solution and getting some of these responsibilities away from police forces. You know, police in schools, police handling mental illness, police handling homelessness, etc. Well I think there are a lot of changes they can take place, period, without having to
Starting point is 00:19:54 defund police completely. Here's what I think's happened. You have well over 80% of American people going, whoa, I didn't know this. I didn't know this was happening. I don't believe peace should be defunded, but I think the conditions should be placed upon them or departments are having to take significant reforms relating to the, we should set up a national use of force standard. If they don't sign onto it, then in fact they don't get any of the federal money. In addition, that they have to demonstrate that their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi. We should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should, their, their, their, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. th. th. th. to bea. toeea. toea. today, toea. today, toe. today, today, today, today, the. the. the. any of the federal money. In addition, that they have to demonstrate that they release all the data
Starting point is 00:20:27 that relates to misconduct by police. That all has to be sent to the Justice Department. If they don't send it to the Justice Department nationally, they don't get funding. But as it relates to, for example, to, for example, their health care, as a master's in social work, the police, the police, the police, their, their, and, and, and, and social, and social their, and, and social, and police, and police, and social, and social, their, and police, and police, souilet, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is., is., is., is...... And, is. the the the the the the their, is. their, is. their. their. the their, is. their misconduct, is. their, is. their, and, anda, is. their, is. the the the drug abuse and the like. Many changes we can make, but the, for example, my daughter is a social worker, she says their masses and social work, the idea that she's going to respond by herself to a 911 call that says that someone is overdosing or someone as a mental problem and they're acting out, the idea that going by themselves is not rational to expect.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Conversely, the cops shouldn't go alone. The cops should go with people who are mental health and experiential. Do you not think though there's an opportunity to have somebody that's not a policeman? Because you know the old adage, if you are a hammer, then everything is a nail. And so you not think there's an opportunity to have people who are not even police in these environments who are trained and specialized. I mean, at mental institutions, for instance, you know, it's not police who are helping these people. It's people who are trained in diffusing these situations.
Starting point is 00:21:32 No, what they are though, they also use force in those mental institutions. When someone's out of hand, they put them come in and hold somebody down. It's not just someone walking in and saying, look, here you've got to calm down now, I know how to deal with you, this is what, it's not that simple. But that should be the objective. So we should put the police second in those circumstances and not first. For example, we should change the way in which we deal with all drug abuse. Nobody should be going to jail for the use of drugs. They should be going to mandatory rehabilitation. We should be building rehab centers, not more prisons. You know, building trust between law enforcement and communities is and and an increased safety is to invest in funding of community policing. When we were funding community policing, the crime rate went down and the
Starting point is 00:22:22 visibility of the, I mean, and the extent of brutality went down too because people know who's in the community. But it's much bigger than that. It's complicated. But I think we should turn over as much as we can to non-armed police officers to de-escalate things related in mental illness, homelessness, and drug abuse. One of the areas that almost everybody synonymously agrees on is that police unions have shown themselves to be extremely strong and oftentimes have contracts that provide impunity for the police, you know, it is hard to to get the bad apples out of police departments. I mean, just in the case
Starting point is 00:23:04 of George Floyd you had a police officer where, just from the bad apples out of police departments. I mean, just in the case of George Floyd, you had a police officer where, just from the record that people could get access to, you saw somewhere around 20 previous grievances against the police officer. So, what is your plan to try and get police unions to sign on? And if they don't, is there a plan to remove some of their power or to deal with them differently? The plan would be that their departments don't get funded if they don't do the things that have to change.
Starting point is 00:23:29 For example, there are bad cops, there are bad senators, there are bad docs, they're bad lawyers, they're bad and they're all very poor policing themselves, every one of these institutions, so you got to say here's the dealier the deal, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, that, that, their, thi, their, their, thi, thi, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi's thin, thi's thin. thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. you've got to say, here's the deal. When a police officer is tried with a violent crime or tried with violating the law, they should not be tried by the local prosecutor. Has to be a prosecutor that doesn't handle their cases. We're going to make that a law. So there's more distance between the two. Making sure that cops can be fired for cause. Cops can be fired when in fact you can make the case and bring a case that indicates they have violated the law, they have violated common decency.
Starting point is 00:24:12 And when that happens, you're going to see police departments changing and police unions changing. And by the way, not all unions are taking the same positions. Some unions are much more forward-leaning than other unions are. But the fact of the matter is there has to be the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their to be their to be to be to be to be their to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thiiol. thiol. thiol. thiol, thiol, thiol, thiol. thiol. thiiiol. thiu. thiu. thiu. thiu. thiu. thiu. thiuiuiu. thiu. thiuiu. I, thiu. I is, thi. tooooooooes. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooeseseses. tee. t forward leaning than other unions are. But the fact of the matter is there has to be a fundamental change. You've got to be able to root out bad cops. And the good cops, the majority of whom are, know how it makes them all look. They look bad. It makes everyone look bad. So I think you're going to see a lot more movement in terms of police unions as well.
Starting point is 00:24:45 But if it's not, they're going to have to obey the law as written. We're going to change the way in which we hold police departments accountable. When we come back, more of my interview with Joe Biden. Stick around. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
Starting point is 00:25:11 You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like, none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Earlier today, I spoke to former vice president and Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden. Here's more of our discussion. One of the major things you would have to do in order to create all of this change is win an election. Yes. That's true. I think it's safe to say that America is expecting a really dirty election. We know how Donald Trump plays in an election. We've seen it up against Hillary Clinton in 2016. You know that he holds no punches. You know that he will punch below the belt.
Starting point is 00:26:06 You've often said that you plan to be the president who brings America back together, but how does that play into the way you'll run your campaign? Well first of all, you know, when the Carney show comes through town the first time, everybody finds out there's no pee under any one of the three shelves? Well, next time it comes around, people have a little different view. The thing we're doing is calling out every lie he in fact is saying. We're calling out and making a case that this guy is not a good guy. This is what he has done. What's happening is the American public, overwhelmingly now, if you notice, two-thirds of the American public thinks that the people who want to, who are protesting, who are the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi............ thi, thi, thi, thi, thi...... thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. toeeeatea. toea. theatea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toeiiiiiiiiiii. th th th ththirds of the American public thinks that the people
Starting point is 00:26:45 who are protesting are the people who are right and not the president. The president has been wrong. And so there's a lot this changed, but a lot this changed, but it's going to be hard. And he's going to get very personal and say things about me, my family, my children, that are simply not true. But the good news is the people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people the people the people the people, the people thiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, who are thi, who are thi, who are tho, who are tho, who are tho, who are tho, who are tho, who are tho, who are thi, who are thi, who, that are simply not true. But the good news is the bad news. The good news is the people know me. And they know me warts and all. The bad news is they know me.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And so he's not going to be able to make things stick that aren't already real weaknesses on my part. And I have weaknesses for real. Well, I'm not going to advertise, no, but one of the weaknesses are because I always say what I think. No one ever has suggested that I don't mean what I say. Sometimes I say all that I mean. And that gets me in trouble. And sometimes it does.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I get it. And my old stuttering days is the case that they come back and I find myself to talk, you know, talking like that. And so, you know, I sometimes make political gaps. But you know, the little expression. A gaff in Washington is a politician telling the truth. The America's place in the world has been damaged significantly. The next president's going to inherit a world in disarray, number one. Number two, at home, we are a divided nation in a
Starting point is 00:28:06 consequential way. I've spent my whole career and the one thing people give me credit and blame for is bringing this both sides together, coming up with principal compromise. And so the two things, the reason I'm running, both those issues tend to be in my wheelhouse. Doesn't mean I'm going to get them right. I'm going to make mistakes. I'm going to make serious mistakes. But the point is, I take responsibility for the mistakes. Let me then ask you this.
Starting point is 00:28:32 How do you plan, as Joe Biden, to speak to those voters who might say, you know what? I'm not a fan of Trump, but I thua thua thua. has done for the economy and I may be economically better off because of him. How do you plan to win those people over? Well, there's not nearly as many of those people as everybody thinks. If you take a look, middle class people and people with an hourly wages and middle class folks, you have over 50 percent of them six months ago in a poll saying they don't think that their children are ever going to have the same standard living they have. He has really damaged the economy for hardworking and middle class people.
Starting point is 00:29:08 That's why I said the second reason I'm running is restore the backbone of this country. Hard work and middle class people. The president has to be part of the solution, not the problem. Ordinary people are getting crushed. And guess what? If you are Latino or you're African American, you are really getting crushed. The unemployment rate among black youth is up into 36, 37% range, even higher for Latinos. Everybody's beginning to understand the way we treat people is simply not right. As president, would you then continue being the Biden who's not afraid to tell it like it is
Starting point is 00:29:43 and address those issues specifically within those communities? Because oftentimes it feels like politicians run on these ideas, but then when they get into power they say, oh, we're going to fix things for everybody. But the truth is, America has a legacy of oppressing certain people, specifically black people, and it feels like those issues and those areas need to be addressed in a very, to, to, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and to, and thin, and thin, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin need to be addressed in a very specific way as opposed to in a general way. Are you going to be willing to do that? Yes, I am. And they make some of the backlash that comes with it. By the way, yes, and I tell you what, one of the things I've done and I've been known for in my state is I not only, I don't address those issues just to the africamer community. I th. I th. I th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I than, I than, I thus, I tho, I tho, I thr-I thr-in, thus, thr-I thr-I thr-I tho, tho, tho, tho, thin, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, than, and make, and make, th, and make, th, th, and make, th, th, and make, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and make thi, and make thi, thi, and make thin, and thin, thin, the, the, thee, thean, thean, thin, thean, thean, thin, thin, thinks, thinks, thinthe business community. I think people, you gotta make the case to the people who in fact are they're reluctant
Starting point is 00:30:27 to pay their taxes to do these things and say, tell me, are you gonna be better off? And I'm confident, I'm confident that you have at least 20% of that population, that is the folks who are in the upper income brackets going, well yeah, you know, I guess I'm a little better off if there's more peace and security. We tend to be unwilling to make the case to the people who historically have said, okay, look, this is all about mine not paying taxes. You can't build a wall high enough around your home.
Starting point is 00:31:00 You keep pollution out. You can't build a wall high enough around your home to keep peace in the neighborhood. You can't build a wall high enough around your home to see to it that you have a safe place to move around the country. I mean it's just, and I think we got to make the case to the very people who say they're opposed. And the last point I'll make is, you know, the people the people who voted for Trump out out out out out out out out out out out. to to to to their, to their, their, th. their, th. th. their, their, th. th. th. thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. thi. to, to, toe. Wea. toe. toe. toe. th. toe. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the people who voted for Trump out of frustration, high school educated people who are busting their neck, they're the neighborhoods I come from. That's why I come from a Scranton, Pennsylvania claimanteller. Are the people I grew up with? In fact, they in fact understand. And I think they know, I
Starting point is 00:31:37 think they know me. That's why I think the polling data is demonstrating that they know I will do what I say say th say th say th say th say th say th say th say they they th say th say they th. th. th. I will th. I will th. I will th. th. I will the the. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. their th. their their th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their I thi. I thi. I thi. the. the. thee. I theean. I thean. I'm theean. I'm thean. I thean. I thean. I thean. I thean. I'm thean. I will do what I say and respect them. When we come back, Vice President Biden tells me who he's choosing as his running mates. Stay tuned. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Here is the final part of my interview with Vice President Joe Biden. You may have respect and you may have people coming out in many places to vote for you. But as we saw in Georgia just yesterday, if those people's votes aren't counted and
Starting point is 00:32:45 if those people don't get the opportunity to vote, then your entire campaign may be moot. So what is the plan up until November to make sure that people can vote, to make sure that everyone, whether it's Republican or Democrat, black or white, has the opportunity to vote without being in a line that's six hours long? It's my greatest concern, my single greatest concern. This president is going to try to steal this election. This is a guy who said that all mail-in ballots are fraudulent, voting by mail, while he sits behind the desk in noble office and writes his mail-in ballot to vote in a primary. This is a guy you have 23, I believe in the states,
Starting point is 00:33:26 have passed over 82 pieces of legislation making it harder for people to vote. Harder. That's why we're putting together a major initiative of lawyers to go out and make sure that we're in every single district in the country to patrol this. We need, if I'm president, and this is what they're worries, if I'm president, we're going to have same-day registration. The report was in Pennsylvania, there are still counting votes.
Starting point is 00:33:54 We may not know, quote, this is the sort of implicit threat. We might not know who won Pennsylvania in a general election until a month after the election. Wow. What do you think that this is about with Trump? This is a man. Do you worry, then let me let me ask you this, and I know this is a strange question to ask an American politician, maybe easier around the world, but have you ever considered what would happen if the election result came out
Starting point is 00:34:18 as you being the winner and tru. I was so damn proud. Here you have four chiefs of staff coming out and ripping the skin off of Trump. And you have so many rank and file military personnel saying, whoa, we're not a military state, this is not who we are. I promise you, I'm absolutely convinced they will escort him from the White House in a very dispatch. There are many people who have taken to the streets now. There are many black people, but there are many white people marching with them. There are many young people who say, we need a revolution. We need to see a change in this country.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I know as Joe Biden, you've often pitched yourself as the person who is going to bring the people together and the person who's going to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to to to the the the the their their their the people together and the person who's going to transform things as opposed to just a revolution. What is your pitch to them? What is your pitch to that to that Bernie Vosa? What is your pitch to that voter who says, Joe Biden, I'm crushed by college debt? I need to see the world change. I haven't seen expectation was Joe Biden, former vice president, feels like he's entitled. He's the frontrunner. Let's take him down. And so we spent a better part of a year with a target on my back.
Starting point is 00:35:34 And now it worked out, and people are now going, oh, I've had actually people say to me, I didn't know that was your position in the environment. I didn't know you were the guy that wrote the first climate change bill back in 1986. I didn't know, etc. I didn't know you were the guy that took on apartheid. I didn't know you were the guy that did that. I didn't know. Well, you know, so things are beginning to be more more debt forgiveness for college loans. I think there has to be more opportunity to go to college for free, for free. But we
Starting point is 00:36:11 have to change corporate policy too. And the tax cut, imagine just concluding I know you've got to go, but imagine if we had that two trillion dollar tax cut and we hadn't wasted it on the wealthy, that generated virtually no growth at all, no growth at all, according to most of the conservative think tax. Imagine if we had that two trillion dollars back when we were calling for it and say, we're gonna use that to reduce student debt.
Starting point is 00:36:41 We're gonna use that to reduce debt. Leadership matters. Leadership matters. My final question to you pertains to the race. You've been really tight-lipped and you've played your cards close to your chest about who your running mate could be. People have thrown out names, Stacey Abrams, Kamela Harris, you know, Elizabeth Warren, etc. I have a pitch for you. Last time you teamed up with someone who was half African, half white, and things went very well for you, Mr. Vice President. And I've looked at my contract and I've seen that nothing stops me from being vice
Starting point is 00:37:17 president of the United States. Were you born in America? I don't think that's an issue, to be honest, for Vice President. It is, unfortunately. Otherwise, I'd be asking you. Otherwise, I'm the vice president. Thank you so much for your time today. You're making a look on the rest of your journey.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And please pass my regards to the Dr. Biden. I will. And thank you very much for having me. I hope you'll have me on again. Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go, the Daily Show and Comedy Central have been donating to three groups who are fighting against police brutality and systemic racism. The NWACP Legal Defense Fund, the Equal Justice Initiative, and the Bail Project. Now, if you are able to, and you'd like to help these groups as well, please go to any of the links and do whatever you can. Until. Until. to to to to to. to to to to, and you'd like to help these groups as well. Please, go to any of the links and do whatever you can. Until tomorrow, stay safe out there. Remember to wear your mask.
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