The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Giuliani Goes Broke, Musk's Million-Dollar Play, and the Future of Clean Energy
Episode Date: October 23, 2024Michael Kosta explores the financial downfall of Rudy Giuliani following a civil court order and Elon Musk’s attempt to sway voters with a million-dollar sweepstakes. Ronny Chieng embarks on a missi...on to find Elon a friend. Michael dives into the possibility of eliminating the Electoral College, discussing the potential impact of a National Popular Vote. Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm shares insights on the rapid growth of the clean energy sector, electric vehicles, and the political implications of undoing the Biden-Harris administration’s energy policies.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The election enters its bribery phase.
Elon Musk could use a friend.
And I get school at the Electoral College.
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All right, we are exactly two weeks from Election Day
and two weeks and one day from Donald Trump
complaining about voter fraud.
But tonight, there's breaking news about one Trump henchman
who probably won't be joining in this time.
Breaking news, and that's civil case
against former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani. A federal judge ordered Giuliani to turn over all of his
valuable possessions, including his Manhattan apartment, to former Fulton
County elections workers Shea Moss and Ruby Freeman. Giuliani owes them $150
million after they won a defamation suit against him. He claimed they were
involved in election fraud
after the 2020 election.
The judge wants Giuliani to hand over
more than just his Madison Avenue apartment.
He's ordered to surrender watches,
signed Yankees paraphernalia, furniture, and even his TV.
The only valuable he's allowed to keep
is his grandfather's watch.
Oh, poor Rudy.
Poor, poor Rudy. And I'm not expressing empathy, by the way. I'm saying Rudy Oh, poor Rudy. Poor, poor Rudy.
And I'm not expressing empathy, by the way.
I'm saying Rudy is literally poor now.
He's broke, OK?
He's got to give them his apartment, his car,
his furniture, even his TV.
Do you know how badly you have to lose a court case
that 9-11 is the second worst thing that's ever happened to you? It really makes you realize how random justice is in this country.
This man lost his entire fortune for trying to steal the election,
while the man who he was trying to steal the election for has faced no repercussions at all.
It's like when I get yelled at for going to the strip club,
even though there were 45 other men also at the strip club.
Why doesn't my wife yell at them?
Let's move on to the current election.
In the home stretch of the 2024 campaign, Donald Trump has gained a critical new supporter,
Elon Musk.
A man of gravitas, a man of dignity, a man with roughly a four inch vertical leap, and
president of the funny tummy club.
But he's also the richest man in the world.
I mean, he's so rich, he bought Twitter just to drive it into the ground for his own personal
pleasure and now he's thinking, well, what if I did the same with America?
Tech mogul Elon Musk making a surprise pledge while stumping for Trump,
launching a million dollar giveaway for voters who signed his petition in favor of free speech and the right to bear arms.
Wow. Elon's giving a million dollars to his fans.
Now they can afford the best anime girlfriend pillow money can buy.
So how exactly does this bribe, sorry, gift, work?
So every day between now and the election,
we'll be awarding a million dollars starting tonight.
Tonight's person is John Dreher.
Wow.
Thank you.
Wow.
How exciting for John Dreher.
But maybe less exciting once you realize that they filled in the money section for John Dreher. But maybe less exciting once you realize
that they filled in the money section with John Dreher.
Although...
Although... Yeah.
Although I'm not sure it matters,
since Elon put his signature dead center in the check,
which, as everyone knows, is exactly not where you're supposed to, I'm not sure it matters since Elon put his signature dead center in the check.
Which as everyone knows is exactly not
where you're supposed to put it.
But hey, he's a disruptor.
Also, just a missed opportunity.
Put something funny in the memo section, right?
May I suggest butt medicine?
I mean, my landlord loves when I do that.
But forget all that.
What exactly do you have to do for that million dollars?
The only thing we ask for the million dollars
is that you be a spokesperson for the petition,
and that's it, really.
That's the whole... That's it.
And, yeah, that's it.
Bye!
Hey.
That's how uncharismatic Elon Musk is.
He can hand someone a million dollars,
and they're just like,
so I can just go now?
Because I've seen people more excited
to win a dishwasher on the Price is Right.
And I know what you're thinking right now.
How can Republicans sink so low?
And also, can I sink low enough to register for this?
Well, yes, but you better hurry up,
because it's not quite clear
if this whole thing is
cool with Johnny law.
Pennsylvania's governor Josh Shapiro questioned the legality of this giveaway and said it's
something law enforcement should be taking a look at.
When you start flowing this kind of money into politics, I think it raises serious questions
that folks may want to take a look at.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
This whole thing may violate election law,
but good luck to the Democrats trying to stop it.
You know, that'll win over voters.
We're taking a million dollars from you.
Vote Harris Walls!
But, of course, billionaires in politics isn't anything new.
Democrats have George Soros and Mark Cuban.
Republicans have Steve Wynn, Dan Snyder,
and I think the Monopoly man.
But Elon is also getting personally involved
in a way that we've never seen before.
Not only has he donated $75 million
to Trump's reelection effort,
not only has he spoken at Trump's rallies,
but his super-packed America pact
is essentially running Trump's entire
get-out-the-vote campaign.
And fun fact, he wanted to call his pact
at America on Twitter, but someone else
already had that handle, so he just took it from them.
He literally stole America.
But don't worry, in exchange, he gave them the handle
at America 123 underscore 12.
Really rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?
You couldn't have given him a cooler handle than that. Give him at Henry Kissinger.
He's not using that anymore.
But, look, any of us can funnel millions of dollars
into an election.
Musk's real influence is turning Twitter
into Donald Trump's personal propaganda machine.
-"Musk also uses ex, formerly Twitter, which he owns,
to promote Trump to his 200 million-plus followers.
According to a CBS News investigation,
Musk has used X to amass 3.3 billion views
on posts about election security so far this year.
55% of the posts contained or amplified
false or misleading information,
including unsubstantiated conspiracies.
Holy shit, 3.3 billion views for conspiracies
and misinformation.
And yes, a billion or two of those views
come from sex bots that only tweet things like, click here
to see crypto in my p***.
But that's still a huge amount of propaganda.
55% of the post had misinformation.
So he's wrong half the time. Well, thank God he only controls Twitter
and not some sort of rocket company, you know?
And if you're on Twitter like me,
you know that he doesn't just tweet the stuff out
to his followers.
He puts it in your feed whether you follow him or not.
It's gotten so bad that the other day,
I almost closed Twitter and talked to my family.
Can you imagine that?
Honestly, I should just get off Twitter entirely, except I've been talking to this smoking hot
Russian chick whose b***h is made of crypto.
So Elon has formed a very close alliance with Donald Trump.
So close, in fact, that Trump says if he wins, he'll give Elon a job in his administration
cutting government waste.
And Elon already has some really dumb ideas
for how to do that.
So, we've talked about kind of a government efficiency commission
or the Department of Government Efficiency,
where we just take a look at all the federal agencies
and say, do we really need whatever it is,
428 federal agencies?
Like, there's so many that people have never even heard of.
Yeah, I mean, that tracks, you know?
If you've never heard of something,
then that means we don't need it, right?
Seriously, the parietal lobe?
I've never heard of it, all right?
Don't need it.
For more on Elon Musk's cash giveaway,
we go live to Tesla headquarters with Ronnie Chang.
Get me into Elon's mindset. What's Elon's goal here?
Don't overthink this, Michael.
All Elon's trying to do is make a friend.
That's it. Back to you. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, here's a million dollars. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. And then people run away as fast as they can.
Because he's a loser with no friends.
Okay, all right.
Come on, come on, Ronnie.
How could...
How could he have no friends?
He's a man with billions of dollars.
No, no, no, he's a loser with billions of dollars.
Making a billion dollars is not the same skill set
as making friends, okay?
I mean, just look at how he jumps up and down
when people clap for him.
Yo, does this look like a man you want to be friends with?
That looks like the kid at school with no friends.
Like, you know how there's, like, a giraffe at the zoo
that was raised in isolation,
so it doesn't know how to be a giraffe?
That's him. Okay. Okay, but there's easier way to make friends
than to pay them a million dollars.
Yeah, and he's tried them all.
He bought Twitter to make friends, and what happened?
We all left Twitter.
He built self-driving cars so the cars would be his friend,
and what happened? The cars blew themselves up.
He tried to make friends by having a thousand kids,
and what happened?
They were all like,
can Nick Cannon adopt us instead?
Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not done.
This man is a loser, Costa.
His group chat is...
Yo, his group chat is him and a burner phone he bought
so he wouldn't be alone in the group chat Okay
the only reason he wants to go to Mars is so that he can be the first human to meet aliens because once
What he knows that once the aliens meet other humans, they'll be like, oh wait, this one sucks
Running this man is 53 years old. He's got to have at least one friend
And you know, I know he has no friends?
Because he made the Cybertruck, okay?
A real friend would have told him,
hey bro, that's the stupidest shit
I've ever seen in my life.
You should punch yourself in the dick.
Okay?
Because friends don't let friends make cars
that look like a Batmobile
that had to repeat the first grade.
Okay, so, so what, our democracy is gonna collapse
unless this guy gets a friend?
Exactly.
We just need one sad, pathetic, pasty loser
to be his friend,
which is why I'm awarding you, Michael Kosta,
$1 million.
All you need to do is be Elon Musk's friend.
That's it.
That's all you have to do.
Congratulations, Michael.
You won.
So proud of you.
Is that check made out to you from me?
Yeah, yeah.
Don't overthink it, man.
Just sign here.
Okay, I mean.
Ronnie Ching, everybody.
Right here.
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your podcast. point to battleground states on the election map. We get it, John, you know where Pennsylvania is, alright?
Some of us didn't go to grad school.
But a new initiative might change election night forever.
Take a look.
With the race for the White House at a virtual dead end.
A tight race in every battleground state.
If there's one thing I know as an American, it's that our elections are perfect.
So when I heard there was an organization trying to change our system with something
called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact,
I had to find out what it was.
National Popular Vote is an agreement amongst the states that when enough states join it,
will move this country to a National Popular Vote for president. It makes every voter in every state
relevant in every presidential election.
But voters do elect the president.
Yeah, no, battleground state voters have all of the power with the American president and that's one
out of five states. So four out of five states are totally ignored in
presidential election. It's a way to deliver to this country a president
every time who wins the most amount of votes across the country. And so it
doesn't take every state to participate. Okay. And I will tell you that
interstate compacts are not controversial things every state's in dozens of them. And I think
you've probably participated in an interstate compact before. Absolutely not. Have you ever?
Powerball. I'm gonna have a Powerball. Well that's an interstate compact. Are you telling me the
president of the United States is going to be determined by the Powerball winner? No, no, no.
I guess I misunderstood. I may have misunderstood the question, but I definitely know what the Electoral College
is, and I certainly understand the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.
This breaking news just in, The Daily shows Michael Kosta doesn't understand the National
Popular Vote Interstate Compact.
He may not even understand how the Electoral College works.
What the hell are you doing here, King?
Well, Michael, if anyone says Electoral College three times, it's like a genie.
I'm cursed to appear to break it down.
So let's do it.
Each state has their own system of appointing electors to vote in the electoral college.
Now currently, almost all states have a winner-take-all system, where the candidate who wins the most
votes in that state then wins all of that state's electors.
Maine and Nebraska do it a little bit differently. but once a candidate gets 270 electoral college votes,
they win.
Now, with the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact,
states in that compact have agreed to reward
all of their electoral votes to the winner
of the National Popular Vote,
regardless who wins that statewide vote.
That means every single vote across the country counts
and battleground states would essentially become irrelevant. Wow. Is it true that you ever died for an election, Matt?
Let's go back to the interview. How often has a president become president and not won the
national vote? Yeah, it's happened five times. Five. The most recent. Yeah. President Trump and
President Bush. Republicans overwhelmingly benefit from the Electoral College. So why would a
Republican ever be on board with a national vote initiative? How dumb would
they have to be? Well I happen to be a Republican. You're a Republican? Oh yeah, for sure.
Yeah, pretty conservative one too. Are you sure you're a Republican? There's lots of
Republicans who support a national popular vote for president.
What about you?
What are you?
I'm a Democrat.
Are we getting this?
A Republican and a Democrat.
This is one table we should both sit at.
This is a nonpartisan reform with bipartisan support.
Everybody's bi these days.
I got nothing on that.
But this is just idealistic tomfoolery. I mean
is anybody gonna get on board with this? This isn't a fantasy, it's not an academic
fever dream. It's a law that's been passed by 17 states plus the District of
Columbia. I have to admit you know when you guys sat down here I thought there's
no way these imbeciles know anything but you've convinced me. It's pretty legit. What's next? What are we missing? All eyes on
Michigan and as a battleground state it'd be a critical domino to fall to
create the momentum to get us over the finish line. Michigan. That's my
home state. They're great legislatively. I bet they're working on this right now
as we speak. You should weigh in. Weigh in with the speaker. He needs to schedule a vote on the National Popular Vote Bill.
Yo, look at me.
Shh. I'll handle it.
Thank you.
When Costa says it happens, it happens.
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War breaking news now. The cocky clown Michael Costa headed to the battleground state of Michigan,
going there to see if they will pass the national popular vote.
Currently, let's pop it up and show you on the map here.
We currently have the states right now.
These states right here on the map, you see them calling it in blue, they have officially
passed the compact.
That means they're in.
Their bills have passed into law.
Now, if you add them up, that would be 209 electoral votes right there.
These states, like Michigan Michigan currently have bills introduced
in one or more legislative chambers.
Now, passing it in Michigan is a long shot,
especially for someone as inept as Michael Kostin.
Oh, oh, oh, I get it.
You know, you're just worried that once I do get
this thing passed, you and your precious magic wall
will be out of a job for good.
Hey, hey, hey, you can insult me, but you leave the magic wall out of this.
Besides, even if it did reach the 270 thresholds, there's always the potential for litigation,
for the lawyers to get involved, lawyers from any of these states or from the candidates
themselves.
Plus, you still need 46 more electoral votes.
Jesus.
Are you always this much of a bummer king? Yes.
Watch out, Michigan.
You're about to be costed.
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..... Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight runs the Department of Energy under President Biden.
Please welcome Secretary Jennifer Granholm. All right. Huge, huge Department of Energy fans here.
All right.
What is the Department of Energy?
We have 17 national laboratories, 40,000 scientists,
all trying to solve the biggest problems of our time.
It is the Solutions Department,
and now we are deploying, deploying, deploying clean energy.
I'll tell you what, you have... Yes. the biggest problems of our time. It is the solutions department. And now we are deploying, deploying, deploying clean energy.
I'll tell you what, you have...
Yeah.
You've got a nice energy.
Hey.
Oh!
Saving it.
I, you know, doing this piece that was on in the second act, I went to the state capital
of Michigan and I noticed your portrait. and I'm a Michigander.
I wasn't necessarily living in Michigan
when you were the governor, but I love your portrait,
and it's here, and there's so many cool things here.
There's a wind turbine.
Your hand is on a globe.
Many Michiganders didn't even know
that there's other countries in the globe.
Oh, stop.
I think there's an electrical car in that, right?
Yeah, there's an electric vehicle.
Yeah, it was the Chevy Volt, the first electric vehicle
to come off the list.
Look at them now.
I was struck that that might have been
a little bit ahead of its time.
Oh, you know, you are so smart.
You see why they put me at this f***ing desk?
It's obvious.
But this is Michigan.
This is gas guzzling Michigan.
Did that ruffle some feathers?
Well, let me just say that when the, you know,
you remember when the auto industry went bankrupt?
Yes.
And that was in a 2008 Great Recession, right?
Yes.
So it was the same time that Obama and Biden were elected.
They said we're going to help to save the American auto industry,
but we also want it to move into vehicle 2.0,
which is the electric vehicle.
And so they provided a bunch of incentives
for battery companies to come to Michigan.
And it's true, we were a little bit ahead of our time.
We put the cart of supply before the horse of demand,
if you will.
And, but it's all smoothed out now.
And electric vehicles are now 10% of the vehicle market.
Is it perfect?
Yeah?
Yeah.
It feels like electric, sorry to be the bummer,
it feels like EV has slowed down a little bit.
Well, a little bit.
What are some of the challenges you're facing?
First of all, we've sold 4 million EVs
since the start of this administration,
which is more than all EVs ever sold before.
Right.
And the hiccup, well, first of all,
I think there's been a lot of talking down
of electric vehicles, unfortunately.
I think once we get past November,
we'll see, I think, more positivity
because JD Powers, they do a survey of who wants to buy.
I mean, people who have electric vehicles,
they will never go back. And people who don who have electric vehicles, they will never go back.
And people who don't have electric vehicles,
if they're thinking about switching
and they want to save money on gasoline,
they're looking at it.
And because of the Inflation Reduction Act,
you know, one of the laws that was passed,
that provides incentives for consumers
to buy electric vehicles.
So you can get $7,500 off the dealer to purchase one.
So there's, so we're seeing, you know, year over year,
quarter over quarter increases, you know, and that's good.
And we, you know, we've got electric vehicle
charging stations.
As of today, here's news.
200,000 public charging stations across the country.
Saved it for the Daily Show.
Yes.
Well, that's one thing that fascinates me about EV.
I mean, as an American who drives a car,
we just are so used to, I'll drive till it's empty
and then I'll fill up somewhere.
That's not what it's like necessarily with EV.
Do we have to rethink our mindset a little bit?
Well, I think, first of all, batteries.
Is that something that the Department of Energy
focuses on?
We're totally focused. Or is that the Department of Energy focuses on? Where's that Department of Transportation?
Well, we actually-
I get my departments mixed up.
This is so smart, because we have a joint office
with the Department of Transportation on this.
But the bottom line is the batteries for electric vehicles
are making the vehicles go a lot longer.
So you can go 300, 300 plus miles on a charge.
And to fill up your average sedan,
it costs about 48 bucks as average, right?
$1, you know, $3.17 per gallon.
If you charge at home, if you have a garage,
it costs you about 16 bucks.
So the difference between 48 and 16,
and if you're filling up every week,
that's a good amount of money that you're saving.
And yet, you have to plan to find
an electric charging station.
But now that there's 200,000 of them of money that you're saving. And yet, you have to plan to find an electric charging station.
But now that there's 200,000 of them with a goal
of giving it to 500,000 by 2030.
And most people charge at home.
I hate to bring this up because it's petty,
but I have this desk, and it's a responsibility.
My electric toothbrush needs to be charged more frequently, more often.
But let's get into batteries.
You know, are we... Americans love cheap shit, so all these batteries are being made in China?
No!
No? Well, let's talk about that.
They are not. We are bringing... This is the whole thing.
Oh, you guys, this is such a great story.
Yeah, I know. Well, this stupid audience has no clue what we're talking about, but I know.
Explain to them.
So yes, batteries for electric vehicles
and the stuff that goes into the batteries all has been like.
Battery juice.
The battery juice, the anode, the cathode,
the separator material, all of that has been built in China.
Much of it, right?
They cornered the market on a data strategic plan to do it.
We just allowed it to happen.
We just watched until this administration came in. And they said, no, we're going to bring manufacturing plan to do it. We just allowed it to happen. We just watched until this administration came in.
And they said, no, we're going to bring manufacturing
back to this country.
We're going to make it irresistible
to invest in America.
As a result, since the start of this administration,
450 EV assembly and battery companies
have announced they're opening up in America.
450.
That's amazing.
Yeah. I love that. You're supposed to be like, wow.
No, I mean, I drive gas, and you know what?
I'm a bad person.
No, you're not.
But I do want to ask you, when I am ordering a bunch of stuff from Amazon, and then it
says, hey, do you want to get this a day later and just use one box. I click yes.
Am I a hero?
You are.
Clearly a hero.
Renewable energy.
I mean, some of the pushback is,
hey, a wind turbine is cool when it's windy.
Hey, solar panels are great when it's sunny out,
but that's not always the case.
Is that a dumb pushback on renewable energy?
Let's just say they may not be aware that you can combine that kind of energy with these
big utility scale batteries that have 10 hours, sometimes much longer storage so that it basically
makes renewable energy like base load power, clean power, and these batteries give the
opportunity for everybody to use energy all the time.
And that's why we're seeing so much deployment of clean energy across the country.
Can I just give you a quick stat on this?
Yeah, please. I love stats.
So, and you should feel really great about this, America.
Yeah.
Because of the incentives in these laws that the president passed,
developers of clean energy have been going gangbusters.
This year, just in 2024, we will add 30 Hoover dams worth of clean power to our electric grid.
30 Hoover dams. That's a record amount.
I'll tell you what. She came with numbers. She came with numbers.
Can I plug my electronic toothbrush
into one of those huge industrial...
No. Winter's coming.
You are a Michigander. I'm a Michigander.
We both know winter's coming to kill us.
Heating a home, you know, maybe it's not always
the first thing everyone talks about on television,
but it's something to be taken very seriously. I'm hearing heat pumps. I'm hearing heat pumps don't work when it's not always the first thing everyone talks about on television, but it's something to be taken very seriously.
I'm hearing heat pumps.
I'm hearing heat pumps don't work when it's actually freezing.
What is a heat pump?
I don't get to talk with the Secretary of Energy very often.
What is a heat pump? Should more Americans be doing heat pumps?
Is there a tax credit for heat pumps?
Yes! Yes, yes, yes!
Tell me everything about heat pumps and goddamn it, finish with some numbers.
Okay.
I'm just kidding. You don't have to do numbers.
Well, first of all, the heat pump
basically transfers warm or cold energy
to where you want it to be.
Right?
And so it not just heats your home in the winter,
it cools your home in the summer.
So it's both a heater and a cooler.
Shitty name.
I know.
I know, right?
Heat and cool pump, yes.
It is so true.
We can work on that.
But they are outselling your basic HVAC system in America
now for a couple of years going, because people are understanding
how great heat pumps are.
And yes, they do work in the cold.
And yes, there are tax rebates right now.
We're talking in New York.
Many states like New York have developed a rebate system.
You can get a rebate for the heat pump that you purchase.
Or if you're not in one of those states,
you can get a 30% tax credit for a heat pump.
This would be the time to do it.
These incentives are for not just heat pumps,
but honestly for insulation, for solar panels,
for stuff that makes your house button down
and running on clean energy.
Well, this is something that I'm afraid to ask, but if administrations change and when they do change,
does everything you've been working on go bye-bye, too?
Is it like the energy in my electronic toothbrush?
It just doesn't seem to make it?
Do things stick around?
The administration will change,
and so it will depend on who's elected, right?
Right, right.
But let me just say this, that the incentives that
were embedded in Biden-Harris industrial strategy,
I'll just say, those incentives are working all across America,
in every pocket, in red communities,
in blue communities.
Honestly, 60% of the funding, all those factories
I talked about, just in the clean energy space,
there's been 900 factories. That includes wind and solar in the clean energy space, there's been 900 factories.
That includes wind and solar as well as batteries, etc.
900 factories.
But 60 or even more percent of the investments have gone
to red states and red districts.
It would be, you know, political malpractice really to undo that
when your community, especially a community that previously
had had a factory and the factory was gone,
and now you're getting a whole new opportunity,
that would be a bad move to undo it.
I'm sure Trump would take care of the liberal cities
and states of this country.
Um, AI.
Yes.
You know, I'm not sure where I stand.
Actually, I know where I stand.
I don't think we need it or want it.
I think it's here to stay.
A lot of people I work with love making Mount Rushmore,
have boobs on it through AI.
But it uses a shitload of energy.
What is our energy strategy with AI?
Is this where nuclear is coming in?
Yeah, yeah, it is.
I mean, first of all, many of the companies
that are building these data centers, like Google and Meta and all that.
So it's a data center, that's what it's called, that's the AI data center.
Well, there's data centers that are specifically directed toward AI, training the AI models.
Those companies are largely, have promised to their shareholders that they want to operate on 100% clean electricity. So our message to them is, if you
get a data center coming in which uses a lot of power,
don't make everyday citizens pay for that power.
Bring your power with you.
BYOP is what we're calling it.
But make it clean.
And so one.
It's like bringing your own charger over to a friend's
house.
There you go.
So we think we can do it.
Sorry.
Continue.
Sorry.
Yes.
No, no.
It's anticipated that you'll see an uptick, obviously,
in demand.
We want these data centers built in the United States
for economic reasons, but also because of national security
reasons.
So we would like them to be built in the United States.
We can provide the power.
As I mentioned, we're putting so much power on the grid
right now.
If they are willing to do these small modular nuclear reactors
or create additional nuclear power,
provides clean base load power.
Why are you giving me that look?
Nuclear.
You just don't like it.
You know, there's a phrase, going nuclear.
It's not a positive phrase. Is this really...
Are we moving towards nuclear?
Well, we have nuclear now.
We have 94 reactors in the United States.
Nuclear provides 20% of our clean power.
You know, I mean, we...
It's a clean baseload power.
So nuclear is good.
If we can figure out the waste issue,
because it does provide waste, right?
And so we have a whole process going on
in this administration called consent-based siting.
There are some communities who are willing to raise their hand
and say, we will take on that waste for some sort
of compensation to be able to do that.
But once that issue,
which is an important issue, is solvable.
And nuclear helps to solve the bigger issue,
which is energy creation.
As just a regular Joe, can I just encourage everyone
to take the nuclear stuff very carefully?
Yeah, well, that's a good thing.
And just to give you some comfort,
in the United States, our Nuclear Reg nuclear regulatory commission, we are the gold standard
of nuclear safety in this country.
And it takes a while to get something licensed as a result.
And it should. So we are doing it very carefully.
Go nice and slow. Double check. Check again.
Hey, did we check that? Let's check it again.
Last thing, you've been very generous with your time with us.
I know you're very busy.
What can the average American do to improve their carbon
footprint, use less energy?
Is there something that you would advise us?
Totally take advantage of all of these rebates and tax credits.
Put solar panels on your roof if you've got.
Get a heat pump if you have a home.
If you are thinking about switching out your car,
think about trying out an electric vehicle.
There's so many technologies that are available now
at a discount to be able to, you know,
become more energy efficient
and improve your carbon footprint.
Thank you for coming here today.
We appreciate it very much.
Energy Secretary Jennifer Graham.
We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.
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