The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Grandpa's Day Out | Dan Crenshaw

Episode Date: November 2, 2021

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This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 utes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. I went as, did you dress for anything? I dressed up as the weekend. Yeah, and apparently I looked so much like him. Some people thought I was the

weekend in the streets, which made no sense to me. Because why would the weekend go as the weekend for Halloween? Literally someone in the street was like, the weekend? You're the weekend. Then I was like, no, I'm a guy dressed as the weekend. She's like, I know the weekend when I see him. Then it's like, why would the day where nobody is the person who you think they are. It's the way you come, just take a picture. She's like, don't be an asshole, Abel. I was like, I'm not him. I'm not him.

They're just like, just take a picture. Then I was like, screw you. Yeah, the weekend says screw, you, idiot. That's right. And don't forget to to the the the the the the the the the the the the thoge tho to tho to to tho to tho to tho to tho tho to to tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be a to be a to be a tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to. to. to. toooooooooooooo. too. to. to. toda. I to. I today. I tha. I'm just just just just. I tha. It's the Daily Show, Ears edition. Tonight, Biden's European vacation. Poor films are racist. And representative Dan Cren Show. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Hey, what's going on everybody? Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. And joining me for today's headlines is my good friend, Michael Costa. What's going on, Michael Costa? How are you doing, man?

Do you have a good Halloween? I had a great Halloween. Yeah? And I'm more proud of the fact that I haven't seen a white person post a culturally insensitive costume. And it makes me think, maybe we learned not to post. But maybe, maybe, Lassow was scooping up a lot of the white people costumes. I saw a lot of them. And you saw a lot of them too, and it makes me thinking maybe we need more TV shows with a white male charismatic lead.

You know what my man? I hear what you're saying. We need more white men represented on television so that people have more white men to look up to. Look, you said it. The other think thi thi thi o th th th thi o th thi o th thi o thi o thi o thi o' thi o' thi o' thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thin, I thi, I tho- tho- tho- tho- tho, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I, I th. I th. I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thin, thin, the the theeeeeean, to. too, too, too, too, theeeeeeeeea. I thea. I th people have more white men to look up to. Look, you said it. The other thing I love about Halloween, it just feels like there's no rules. You know, you can walk around your neighborhood drunk, drinking. You see a cop, they never say anything. You don't even know if that is a cop. Maybe that's someone dressed as a cop. Even if they say something to say, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi the the other thi thi the other thi thi thi the other thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. intoxicated. And you're free, you're good. Good to see you, Biden. Yeah, I just got to commit more crimes on Halloween. You just made

me realize this. There's no rules, dude. Yeah. All right. Next Halloween, me and you, we're doing this together. All right, well, let's get into the big story that's happening today. It's all about Joe Biden, President of the United, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, president, thiiiii. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to thi, I thi, I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I just just thi, I just thi, I just thi, I just thi, I just thi. I just thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I just thi. I just to to to being president, right? You get a giant house with a bowling alley and a personal chef. You get that free painting of yourself. And best of all, you get to travel the world for free. And right now, Joe Biden is on one of the biggest trips of his presidency so far. So, let's find out how it's all going in another installment of Grandpa's Day Out. The President Biden's first stop on his European tour was the Vatican City.

The place TripAdvisor rated Best City to Feel Guilty for Mastubating in. And while Biden was there, he had a very special meeting with a fellow Catholic. For President Biden a day of devotion and diplomacy, America's second ever Roman Catholic president having a private audience with Pope Francis with whom he's built a personal bond, giving him a ceremonial commander coin, and a compliment. You are the most significant warrior for peace I've ever met, and with your permission I'd like to be able to give you a coin. Now the tradition is, and I'm only kidding about this. If next time I see you, you don't have it.

You have to buy the drinks. I'm the only Irishman you've ever met, who's never had a drink. I'm the only Orlandese, you know that. So I know that. See? They have brought the whiskey. I know that. So obviously a very personal moment with a light-hearted one as is typical with Joe Biden, who ended that meeting today by saying to the Pope, God love you. You know, you've got to give it to Joe Biden because it took everything in his power as an old man to not make that coin appear behind the Pope's ear. What's this, Popey? Ah!

Here's a coin kid. I'll see you next time. Yeah. Also, the fact that he said God love you to the Pope, that is the most unnecessary God love you in history. You don't need to say God love you to the Pope. He knows God loves him. meeting was cool to see. Because it's nice that even though these two men are some of the most powerful leaders in the world when it comes down to it, they're just a couple of old guys hanging out showing off their coin collection, talking

about alcohol, making inappropriate ethnic jokes. I mean forget the Vatican, these two should have been meeting in a sauna, you know, and it's adorable how the Pope acts so happy to receive that coin. You see the the the the the the th you th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that's that's that, that, that, that, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, theateate, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the is the is the thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, to receive that coin. You see him, you know, his house is filled with Indiana Jones' wish list. He doesn't need to be happy about a coin, you know? Oh wow, a coin from the White House. I'll keep it right next to the actual holy grain. Throw this shit out, Vincenzo, they're giving me the coin. How you gonna give me a coin? I said, the Pope, but they're just stucco a little bit, White House, from Farnsville, I say, I'm ever, hey, that's, well, you see, I'm, it seems like I speak bad Italian, but actually the Pope is

actually from Argentina, I speak Spanish. So I'm actually doing a very good impression. Okay. I'm saying his Italian's not great. I'm going to be honest. I tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha ththea ththea thttttthea thi thi thi thi thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi, I'm th thi thi thi, I'm thi. I'm th th thi, it's th that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It th. It's th. It th. It th. It's thi thi thi thi. It's thi. It's like, I to be thi. It's to be to be to be thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi the thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi is a good thing right? I think it's a bad thing. I think it's a bad sign if you're trying to negotiate an infrastructure bill in the United States and in the middle of negotiations you got to run and talk to the Pope. Hey Pope, a confession, we're screwed. Isn't it great that they just get called the Pope? That's your new name that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the name, th. the name, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr- thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the thi, i's, i's thi, i's is thi, i's is thi, i's is thi, i i i's is th. th. th. th. th. thi, i, i, i, is is is th. thi, is thi, is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thro. throooooooooooooo. thee. thean. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, the Pope. His name is Francis. Everyone calls him the Pope. It's like when you work at Denny's very first day you show up and the only name tag they have is Josh. You're now Josh. I thought that guy was Josh. Yeah, exactly. Everyone thinks is Josh. Also, you know there's another former Pope out there. Pope Benedict? He's just around. He's just a the J Leno now of Pope. He's he's he's he's the Pope. He's he's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. He's their. He's their. He's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just like. He's like the Jay Leno now of Pope. He's just fixing cars in Germany. He was a Pope. And he's not a Pope?

I'm just saying. No one ever talks about Benedict. Former Pope? Former Pope. Pope, Pope, Pope, Pope. Previous Pope. All right, now, after President Biden exchanged Irish jokes with the Pope, he caught an Uber to Rome for the G20 summit where he and other world leaders got down to business.

And they got some things done. You know, like, they agreed to create a global minimum corporate tax rate of 15 percent, which is expected to raise hundreds of billions of dollars until the corporations find a different loophole about five minutes afterwards. But when it came to another priority for the G20, tackling climate change, things weren't as successful. Even the first major in-person meeting in two years couldn't bring world leaders closer together on the issue of climate change. In the final communique, G20 leaders agreed to softer language on reaching net-zero

emissions, setting a target of, quote, by or around mid-century. Canada's pledge is to be carbon neutral by 2050. Coal was also contentious. G20 leaders did agree to end public financing of coal-fired power generation abroad, but there are no targets to phase out coal domestically. Damn G20, now that is a flex. Do you hear what they said there? Basically these leaders were like, no more coal for anyone, except us.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go home and give a Pfizer booster to my pets. I'm sorry, guys, but how is climate change the most pressing issue facing humanity? But then your plan is to do something about it by more or less 2050? Like that's a pretty good sign that something isn't actually going to get done. If somebody says to you, yeah, yeah, we should hang out some time, what's your schedule looking like in 2050? You're never seeing that person again.

I don't care if they're dead. You're never seeing them. Not to mention, I'm looking at the people making this pledge, half of them aren't even going to be around in 2050. That's genius. When are we fixing this? How much time do I have left? Yeah, yeah, around then. I mean the bigger problem is that these steps that the countries have announced that they're going to take, they won't actually reduce carbon emissions enough to reach the goals. So basically what I don't know, maybe I'll get tape warm, we'll see what happens. It's frustrating, Costa. The thing, you can't say you want to do something about it and then be like, in 30 years, we'll do something in 30 years. I can solve climate change in 10 minutes. You ready wildfire. Okay?

They'll, they got two minutes, let's wrap this thing up. Location. They don't feel the consequences when they're in an air-conditioned room in Glasgow. I like this. It's not saying. Location, location, location, location, location, I'm the first person to say that. Yeah. Anyway, Joe Biden wrapped up Grandpa's day out by attending the COP26 climate conference in Scotland, aka England's fancy church hat. And although COP26 sounds like a Bruce Willis movie that never actually got made, it's

actually the most important annual climate change conference in the world. Although that doesn't mean that it's the most exciting conference in the world. I call my hate to commit to climate action to stop the destruction exciting conference in the world. I call on you to commit to confident actions to stop the destruction of this magnificent planet. This conference is one of the most important meetings in history. You have the chance to make decisions and reach agreements which will affect the lives of generations to come. This is my message from Earth to come.

On behalf of We the 15, I ask you. Please help us to guarantee a safer future for every life. Please welcome my Minister of Italy, Mario Dragan. I don't know what's worse. The fact that he clapped for a speech that he didn't hear, or the fact that he fell asleep when the guy was like, this is the most important thing, facing humanity, of all time. And look, look, look, I know that the haters are going to say that Biden was falling asleep during the climate conference.

But think about it. How are we going to save the climate? Not using energy. That's how. What's the one time you're not using as much energy when you're sleeping? So Joe Biden was just doing his part, yo? That's what he was doing. And by the way, I don't know exactly how the chain of command works. But when he dozed off for five seconds, I think that means Kamala Harris was president at that time, right? First woman president America, you did it, baby! You did it!

You see what I did there, Costa? It's a joke about Costa! Michael! Shoot them, Lindsay Graham. Use the guns! Use the guns! That's not what I was talking about. I know.

This guy. You know, if you asked me, the real hero of this whole thing was the aide who came in and woke Biden up because that was slick man, that dude should get a coin. If it wasn't for him, Biden might still be sleeping there now. Yeah, he'll just wake up next week in the middle of like a furry convention. I don't know if I could rub one out to a squirrel, but God love you guys. So kudos to that aid who woke Biden up. I mean, people may not actually know this, but he's actually part of a new branch of the federal government, and they're on the lookout for recruits. When the world's most powerful man needs a power nap at the worst possible time, and the line between consciousness and chaos is as thin as an eyelid, that's when we spring into

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All right, when we come back, Roywood Jr. will tell us what makes black people so scary. You don't want to miss it. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter. Ziprecruder finds amazing candidates for you fast. And right now you can try it for free at ziprecruter.com slash zip.ziprecruiter's smart technology identifies top talent for your roles quickly. Immediately after you post your job, zip recruiters powerful

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When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like, none of this stuff gets looked at, that's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News, listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Show.

Now as you know, Halloween was last weekend. And to help commemorate it in our own way, we turn to Roywood Jr. for another episode of CP Time. Trash, trash. There's no almond joys. Ah, well hello there. Welcome to CP Time. The only show that's for the culture.

Today, we'll be discussing black horror movies. When you think of black horror, you think of hits like Get Out, or this year's remake of Candyman. Which reminds me, speaking of that, Candyman. Candyman, Candyman, candy man. I knew he wouldn't show up. Cheap bastard owed me $50. But we wouldn't have Jordan Peel if it weren't for the pioneering black horror films that today are mostly forgotten.

Movies like Son of Engaghi, which in 1940 became the first horror film to feature an all black cast. And unlike a Medea Halloween, they were all played by different people. Son of Vengaghi book stereotypes by showing a black middle-class family battling a monster in their home, paving the way for the Winslow family to do the same thing against Steve Urkel. Ooh, little suspenders. And on top of that, the scientists in this movie is an old black woman. It was like a scary hidden figures. Although I have to be honest, I found hidden figures to be pretty scary too.

Oh, that damn math. Whom! Another major film in Black Horror was 1968 Night of the Living Dead, starring Duane Jones, the first black actor to play the lead role in a mainstream horror hit. He's a hero for most of the movie. And. And. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and the the movie, and the movie, and the movie, and the movie, and the movie, and the the the the the the their, their, it, it, it, it, their, it's their, it was their, it was their, it was their, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, to play the lead role in a mainstream horror hit. He's a hero for most of the movie, and then his character ends up getting shot by white folks who mistake him for a zombie. It was a profound lesson on racism. It is the living who are racist, and we should all strive to be more like the zombies who will eat the brains of any race. Wait, is that the lesson?

Once the 1970s hit and black exploitation films got big, horror movies got a little bit wild. We had movies like Blackula, Blackenstein, Dr. Black, Mr. Hyde, and of course, Addy. It was originally titled The Blacksorcist, but they got in trouble for copying that movie with a little white girl tinkles on the living room carpet. Then there was Petey Wheat Straw.

In 1977, Dolomite star Rudy Ray Moore plays a comedian who was killed by his rivals for being too successful. Today they would have just found his old tweets. That's how you get written. Anyway, the comedian makes a deal with the devil to come back to life and get revenge on his killers by using the devil's magic pimp cane. Now the first question is why would the devil have a pimp cane? I do not know. If I wouldn't be honest, which I don't even know why pimps have pimp canes. Does pimping call sprained ankles? Is that why pimping ain't easy? I don't know. This movie raised many questions for me. And finally, one black

horror character that doesn't get the credit she deserves was Rachel's performance as Rochelle in the 1996 movie, The Craft. Now, although the Craft is not technically a black horror movie, the soundtrack does include a song by Jewell, and there's few things more terrifying to black people than that. Woo! Jew. But Rochel? Rochel? And there's few things more terrifying to black people than that. Woo! Sure. But Rochelle?

Rochelle was a groundbreaking character for black women in horror. She takes revenge on a racist bully at school after becoming a powerful witch, which is literally black girl magic. And this character was especially important because it was the 1990s. Teen horror was in the midst of a renaissance, but Black girls didn't really get to see themselves in anything scary. All they had was Scary Spice.

She wasn't even that scary. Posh was the scary one. Always look like she just got back from Poison and James Bond. Well that's all the time we have for today. I'm Roywood Jr. and this has been CP time and remember, for the culture, we'll try this again. Candyman. Oh, there you are. Where's my money, Daniel? Thank you so much for that, Roy.

All right, when we come back, Republican Congressman Dan Crenshaw will be joining me right here in the studio. You don't want to miss it. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter finds amazing candidates for you fast. And right now you can try it for free at Zip Recruiter. that Zip Recruiter's smart technology identifies top talent for your roles quickly.

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When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You rolling. But that's all access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September,

starting September 17, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is Dan Crenshaw, Republican congressman from Texas and author of Fortitude. He's here to talk about immigration and border policy, climate change and cancel culture. Representative Crenshaw, welcome to the show. Trevor, thanks for having me. Oh, thank you for being here. I think you might be the first Republican lawmaker we've had on in maybe, or let me say the first Republican lawmaker we've had on who isn't leaving Congress in maybe like over a year. So thank you very much for being here. Wow, that's exciting.

I was reading up on you and there are few things I never knew about you as a person. One, 37, we're both thirty seven years the world. And when I read like your life story, living in, I think it was Ecuador and Colombia, I couldn't help wondering. I was like, I wonder what ideas you have of America that you think have been shaped by living in other places, because I know I have that. You know, whereas there are some people who have only lived in America and they see America in a certain way. What is like something that you thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I've thi, thi, thi, thi, I've thi, I've th. th. th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi, I thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi. thi. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I'm th. I'm th see America in a certain way. What is like something that you think has shaped your views on America because you've lived in other countries? Well, living in other countries, it's fun.

I love my upbringing. I plan to go back to my 20-year high school reunion in Colombia next year. And it shaped me in a lot of positive ways. How does it make my view of America difference? Certainly makes you appreciate America in many ways. Helps you understand how other people think about the United States. Oh, that's interesting. Because I was the only American in my entire grade and throughout high school.

Right. So I spent all four years of high school in Bogota. That was the only American that was there all four years. So I got a lot of questions as a result, and I had to defend my country as a result in ways that I frankly wasn't prepared for. So that shaped my view. What I like about America, and I think what we should embrace as Americans is this idea that people can become America,

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like, man, this man probably has interesting and nuanced views on immigration that are shaped by ideas that aren't just formed in America. You know, as somebody who's fluent in Spanish, as somebody who's lived in Colombia, as you said, you're gonna go back to your 20-year reunion, you have friends, you have people you would consider even almost family on that side of the world. Let's talk a little bit about immigration, because it feels like America is stuck in its immigration conversation. You know, there is a misconception about what the problems are, what causes the problems, how America can move forward.

As somebody who's lived in other countries, some of them which influence America's immigration story, what do you think the problem is, and then maybe afterwards we'll talk about potential solutions going forward? Well, look, I view the problem is illegal immigration. I'm not sure we have a problem with legal immigration. It depends if you ask, of course, I personally don't have a problem thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thoes thoes thoes thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I's theeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi.'m not sure we have a problem with legal immigration. It depends if you ask, of course. I personally don't have a problem with legal immigration. My stepmom is a legal immigrant, immigrant, immigrated from Peru.

So I think most Americans are not anti-immigrant. I don't think we should paint them that way. But I think the vast majority of Americans want our border security. You know, and that's the crux of the debate that's going on right now. And we have to differentiate between this conversation about illegal immigration and legal immigration. So, okay, so... So, what's the problem with illegal immigration? No, no, no, no. Let's talk about the conversation in and around that.

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There's an incentive structure that incentivizes people to bring minors across, because our courts can't deal with that. I could go into a long history of why that is if you'd like me nature of the problem right now. It's existed since about 2014. That's why you see these waves. So there's certain policies that can prevent that incentive structure. You can keep people in Mexico while they claim their asylum claim. You can have people claim asylum within their home countries. That was part of the asylum cooperation agreements we established the northern triangle.

So what Biden did is reverse all these policies. And that's why you're seeing this incentive structure change so radically, because people have this idea that they can come across the border, and they will get a bus ticket to wherever they want, and maybe they show up for the court date, maybe they don't. Do you think people keep abreast with America's the laws in that way? or thii, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, or do thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi's thi's thi's thoo, and tho, and thi's thi's thi, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi and thi and thi and thi. thi. they thi. they they they they they they some sort of misinformation that's also going out there, or do you think people are just

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And it's also promulgated by the drug cartels. So the biggest winner in all of this is the North Mexico drug cartels. Right, right. They get maybe $300 to $500 to 500 per person per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per per to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to get, and to get, and to to get to get, and to get, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to to to to to to to to to th., and th.., and the, and the, and the, the, the, the, throooooooooooooooome and th. And th. And th. And th. And the and to get somebody across the border. Nobody gets through that border without them. They have the best border security in the world. So they make millions. And by the way, that's risk-free money, too. They don't have to be trafficking drugs anymore. You can get caught trafficking drugs. Here, they how it's compassionate to promulgate those open border policies when you can disincentivize it and reduce that kind of human trafficking and reduce the money flowing to these drug cards. It's interesting because you know it's not a uniquely American problem and maybe that's

something that I've always struggled with in seeing these conversations. Any country that shares a border with a nation that is going through turmoil in some way, shape or form is going to experience some sort of influx. That is natural, especially when one country is doing much better when it comes to its finances. So when you look at the coming in, when you look at these programs, one, what do you do you do about the people who are already here, who've been here, who've spent their whole lives here, who've grown up here as children? Do you think America at some point has to say, look, the people are here, it'll cost us a fortune to get them out and for all intents and purpose, as you said, they've become

American. Yeah. So, the Republicans have been pretty willing to have conversation about DACA. All we asked is that you secured the border. Now DACA, as defined by the Obama administration, see that's very different than how they've started to define it now, and it's important that people distinguish these two definitions because what Democrats have done in the last two years, multiple times is past the Dreamer Act, which would completely change the way Obama and his administration... I'm very sympathetic to somebody who doesn't even speak Spanish who is brought here as a child and giving them some kind of legal security.

I'm very sympathetic to that. But when it comes to broader immigration reforms, okay, what do you do? What do you do with the millions of people here? It's a very good question. The first thing you do is you you you you you is you is you is you is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, tho tho tho, tho, tho, the, the, theateateateate, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, thea is you have to stop the inflow. You have to stop the illegal crossings. I hope we, I want to get to this point in America where we all agree that we should have zero tolerance for illegal immigration, primarily because it cuts in front of the line of legal immigrants who want to do this the right way. This is very, I'm from Houston. It's the most diverse city in America. I don't think think thi thi thi thi thi th. I don't thoes thoes thoes tho tho tho thi. I don't thi. I don't tho thi. I don't tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi. I want thi. I want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I th. I tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I tho tho tho tho tho. I tho. I tho. I want tho. I want theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetalk to legal immigrants all the time. They're very frustrated by this. Again, my stepmother is a legal immigrant. Because they feel like people are cutting the line. We feel like people are cutting the line.

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In and around the culture of what people want to call cancel culture, you know, people go woke this and woke that and cancel culture. It seems like you're commenting on this, but I'd love to know what your opinion of cancel culture is. First of all, do you think that it's a real thing? It means a couple different things. So cancel culture in modern cccccccculculculculc, the cc, the cculculculcult, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th th th th th th th th th thi. In thi. In thi. In thi. In thi. In th th th th th thi. thi, thi. thi, thi, thi. thi, thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiii. thiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. you think that it's a real thing? And second of all, what do you think it actually means? It means a couple different things. So cancel culture in modern times, it can mean, it can mean refusing to forgive someone for what was clearly a mistake. Okay. And I think in my story of cancel culture going on S&L, that's sort of what that was, right? Because there's a world where what Pete Davidson said, he didn't th is. He didn't quite mean it as badly as people might have interpreted it. Now if they did mean it, it's a different story.

Okay, now I have to deal with that. But when somebody takes an old tweet or whatever it is and you see this constantly, we have to ask ourselves, is that fair? And is there really no allowed in our society? So that's one aspect of cancel culture as I see it. Another aspect which I think is what probably right wingers like a lot less is this making traditional and normal things taboo all of a sudden. So this gets into, okay, we need to cancel Antrimima. We need to cancel Paw Patrol.

These things that didn't offend anybody five seconds ago are now deeply offensive and need to be canceled. I think that's what drives people crazy. Right, but but some of the things did offend people and don't get me wrong like poor patrol and I think some of the things are... It can go too far. Yeah, no no, no I think there are a combination, sometimes I think what happens is there are people online who just chime in. They're not they they they they they they they they they they they are not they are not they they they are not they are not th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the is the is the the the the the the the the thee the thee the the thi. thi. the.'re not really invested, they just chime in. Right. Then the algorithms online go like, oh, it's become a thing. And it wasn't really a thing. Yeah, it's trending. Then it becomes a thing.

Then the media outlets jump on, and they go like, they're trying to cancel. Then Fox will come from one side. sometimes they're just roasting something, sometimes they're just making jokes and jumping on. I feel like, I feel like there's this weird attitude where now we have lost our ability to separate canceling from criticism, from critique, from accountability even. Yes. Do you know, do you get what you're saying? And we do have to have that nuanced conversation.

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And I encourage them torying to cancel books in schools. You know, Texas, I mean, your home state is having this fight about critical race theory. You know, some schools who didn't even have critical race theory are fighting about critical race theory. People are confused about what it is or isn't. You know, people are saying we shouldn't teach certain things. Some books should be kicked out. It's confusing because it doesn't seem like everybody has the same definition for what the argument is. I do know that you've been outspoken on this. From your perspective, I would love to know what you think is going wrong in schools and why you think

certain things should or shouldn't be taught. And I don't want to put words in your mouth, so I'd love to know from you directly directly directly directly directly directly directly directly directly directly directly directly directly directly directly directly directly directly. you directly. So let's take the text of this example, I'm not a state legislature, so I'm not, I can't speak in too much detail, but effectively yes, they did ban CRT in schools. What they also did is increase, increase teaching about slavery, increase teaching about Jim Crow laws. So, because a lot of people say, who support CRTT, say think CRT is a misinterpretation of history and it leads to bad historical documents like the 1619 project which a bunch of

historians had to go back and debunk. Right. Okay. So CRT is a narrative building. It's a theory. It's a critical race theory and it basically says that you should view institutions and society through the lens of race primarily, or rather that you should acknowledge that race played a major role in the definition of some of those structures, I think. And I think I can acknowledge that. Okay. You just said, I can certainly, are there reverberations from past discrimination into modern society?

Yes. We could have an honest conversation about that. But what critical race theory, what really strikes me as odd about it, and I don't understand what the left defends it, because it seeks to challenge the liberal order. And it says this very clearly. It seeks to challenge enlightenment rationality. It seeks to challenge neutral justice, neutral application of the law. It goes from this, Tana'hese-Coates ideologyology that ideology that that thology thology that thology, thology, thology, thology, thology, thology, thoffic, thiology, thiol, thiol, thiol, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, Tanahisi-Coats ideology that in order to fix past

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segregated. Yes, right. Of course we can see the connection there. I don't think there's more to the story than that, but we can learn about that. So do you think there's nothing, do like an Obamacare Affordable Care Act situation? Is that what we're dealing with here? No, I don't. Because, I mean, if you really look at the literature surrounding CRT, I think it's very toxic. And I think it does teach.

I don't think it's counterproductive. But there are schools that have had these fights, and they have no CRT curriculum. Well, I mean, let's look at a recent. And now what they're doing is they're getting rid of other books by like Tony Morrison. They're going like, these, and books that have been in the schools, ironically. Well, let's look at a recent example because there's all this fanfare going on in Virginia. I've got a governor critical race theory.

So it's absolutely infiltrating schools. Oftentimes, I think you're right that there's not a class in high school called critical race theory. But it does infuse the teachings of it, do infuse something like diversity and inclusion training. Why would be against it if you're teaching white white white white white white white white, when a child has to come home and say, mom, my evil because I'm white, or a black student has to say, am I disempowered? Am I disempowered and out of disadvantage because I'm black?

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And it seems to me that like if you're a green new dealer, you believe that the only solutions are solar and wind. You have to electrify the grid completely. I think that's nonsense. I'm not against solar and wind, but I don't think we should attack the oil and gas industry, especially in America. Why is that? Why do I say that?

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now I can build 99 and I can say it reduces. Hasn't America always been about what does America do? Like, the world follows America? It feels like America has an opportunity here to is foolish for anyone to think this can happen overnight. I think you have to transition. We've seen that you can't create enough energy from the sources that we talked about, wind, etc. solar. They haven't found ways to replicate that energy immediately overnight. I agree with you on this. But surely there are ways that now the gas and coal industry, especially the oil industry is really, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that th, th, th is, th is, th is, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thi, thinks, thinks, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can their, their, their, their, throooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes, their, their, their, their, their, the oil industries really, can really, I think, pull a little bit more of their weight. I mean, they themselves, I think it was the oil and, what they call, you probably know their name better. So the industry of like, you know,

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Talk about massive change without even harming anybody, economically speaking, because what everybody's worried about, including, say, the President of Uganda, who wrote that skating letter editorial in the Washington Journal. They are not going to put off getting their people out of poverty just for the sake of this obsession with solar and wind. So we can lead, I'm not th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I'm not thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to to to toeee, toei.a.a. toei. toei. toei.a. toea, toe, ta just for the sake of this obsession with solar and wind. So we can lead. I'm not saying we shouldn't leave, but we should leave with technological innovations, including oil and gas companies.

And they do a lot of this, by the way, carbon capture is, the carbon capture technology is growing radically. Exxon is talking about a carbon hub in the huesen area. to not destroy our economy while also reducing emissions. And that's why I'm going to COP26 to promulgate that view. Before I let you go, then, you have these conversations with your fellow Republicans. What it feels like to me right now, as somebody who just observes, is it feels like the Republican Party is in a really interesting watershed moment where, I think it's what,

46% or 43% of Republicans identify as Trumpers before Republicans. You know it's it now feels like the party is at a point where you know to use sporting analogies we'd always complain about this back and there we go like players have forgotten that the badge is more important than the player you know and you're trying to do certain things. You have come under fire for instance just for saying to people hey true. Hey tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tru, to tru, to to to tru, to to to to true, to to true, to to to to to to to to to to to true, to to to to to to to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the, the. true, the true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true. true. true. true. to to to the, just saying to people, hey, Trump didn't lose because of some weird election fraud or whatever. You've come under fire for this. What do you think the future of the Republican Party will be? Do you think the Republican Party can avoid being co-opted by Trump?

And if the answer is yes or no, what do you think the next moves need to be for Republicans to keep moving forward without being locked down in one person's ideology? Yeah, and I tell Republicans all the time, we can't be locked into one person. You know, we're a party that follows a set of ideals. What is conservatism? It's a problem solving mechanism. That's what we're selling to the American people. We should talk about this more often, by the way. a mechanism by which we solve problems through a framework of limiting principles. Fundamentally, we should not get away from that.

Limiting principles is a key part of that. And an adherence to Western liberal values is a key part of that. I will say this. I do a ton of events. I've been doing a ton of events for the past year. And these are Republican events, of course. And the people who come to a Republican event tend to be the more primary voter activist crowd, right? And I don't get questions about this. I always get questions about this from the media. Always. I never. And I mean that in an absolute sense. I mean never. I never do I get this question about Trump from voters on the ground.

So I think polling has to be taken with a grain of salt. I think people are very, especially Republicans, are very, very suspicious of pollsters. And they don't ever want to give in to you. So they want to defend Trump because, but it doesn't mean they're obsessed with him. But they do, but they feel the need to defend him. And so they'll they'll feel the need, the need, the need, the need, the need, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, told, told, their, their, to s suspicious, their, to s suspicious, their, their, their, their suspicious, their, their suspicious suspicious suspicious suspicious, their, their, their, their, their suspicious suspicious suspicious suspicious, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their suspicious suspicious suspicious suspicious................................. Uh, tos. Uh, to. Uh, to. Uh, to. to. to. to. to. the, their, their, their, their, they's, very, very, very, very, very, very suspicious, very, very suspicious. S the polls are often wrong. They are often wrong, yeah. Especially in and around Trump and Republicans. Right, because we have a very suspicious view of pollsters for whatever reason. And so you have to take it with a grain of salt.

Well, I could talk to you forever, but I know you have to go, you're catching a train back to DC. Thank you for taking the time. Good luck at COP26. Don't forget, people. The congressman's books are available at Dan Crenshaw.com, and you can check out his podcast, Hold These Truths. All right, we're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. Really?

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