The Daily Show: Ears Edition - How Female MCs Helped Shape Hip-Hop | Beyond the Scenes

Episode Date: July 16, 2023

Megan Thee Stallion. Queen Latifah. MC Lyte. Correspondent Dulcé Sloan and producer Chelsea Williamson join Roy Wood Jr. to discuss the female rap trailblazers who found success in the misogynistic, male-dominated arena of hip-hop.Original air date: September 7, 2021Beyond the Scenes is a podcast from The Daily Show. Listen to new episodes every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts, or watch at YouTube.com/TheDaily ShowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. Hey, what's up everybody? I'm Roywood Jr. and this is beyond the scenes.

The show where we go deeper into the topics that you see on the daily show. You know what? Hey, what's up everybody? I'm Roywood Jr. and this is Beyond the Scenes, the show where we go deeper into the topics that you see on the Daily Show. You know how they have the Talking Dead for the Walking Dead and, you know, Talking Bad for Breaking Bad? Well, this is the talking show for the Daily Show. You know what, never mind, we'll come up with a better name for it later. Basically what we're going to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the their, their, the the the their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. today. today, today, ta.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.e.e.e what we're going to be talking about today is our segment Dulce saying featuring TDS correspondent Dulce Sloan. Basically these are explainer videos that go a little bit deeper into topics that you know people need to know a little bit more about like the history of the strong black woman or the

19th Amendment. This week we are talking about how female MC shaped hip-hop. Hip-hop. It's how we know what bottles to pop and what luxury items we can't afford. And we've been living in a golden era of female rappers, with legends like Missy Elliott, Lil Kim, and Lauren Hill. Not to mention Megan the Stallion and Cardi B, dancing with a certain African who misplaced my ticket to the Grammys. But did you know that female rappers have been huge in every era? Every era?

Every, every era? That didn't work. It's true. Rap's history is full of women who have largely been forgotten. Like Sylvia Robinson, the woman who helped create hip hop. Sylvia was a singer, record producer, label executive, and the first person to rock the Farrell hat. She took rap from Little Known Basement Parties in the Bronx to worldwide commercial success in 1979 by conceiving and producing rap's first hit record, Rapper's Delight. Not only was it the first rap single to conquer the charts, it also sold over a million copies.

That's right, it went platinum. And back then, we didn't even that that the the the that the the the the the to th to the the to the to the to the to to the to the the first the first the first to the first the first to the first the first the first to rock the first the first the first the first the first the first to rock to rock to rock to rock to rock to rock to rock the f. the f. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first their their tho. tho. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. their their their their their their their. the conquer the charts, it also sold over a million copies. That's right, it went platinum. And back then, we didn't even know what that was. They had to whip out a periodic table. To help us walk us through this segment of Dulce saying, please welcome Dulce Sloan. How you doing, my love? Hello, Aunt What up? For those that don't know, I call Uncle Roy, uh, Roy, uh, Roy, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the th. thi. the thi. the, the, the the thease the thease the the theease the thee.e. thi Wardwood Jr., Uncle Roy, even though he might be six years older than me. I don't know when I ascend it to Uncle Status in the world of comedy in New York,

but you're not the only one. We'll discuss that off air. Yeah. Also helping us walk through this segment today is Deep Dive Producer Chelsea Chelsea. Chelsea, please also don't call me Unk. Welcome aboard. Hi Roy. I thought she was going to still say Unk. Oh, me too.

Me too. She respected a request. Now, before we get into how Chelsea does the research on these stories over in Deep Dive, Doolze. First, what is the purpose of the segment and just kind of where the origins of it? The origins of it so the one produced at the show Jen Flans she approached me she's like well we have an interesting idea of kind of like an explainer piece like like basically wanting to get like deeper information on a subject and they were like playing around with a name and she was like, what do you think a dull saying? I was like, that's hilarious.

And so like, you know, like you were saying, I've done like the 19th Amendment and you know, the trope of the strong black woman. Believe we did one on hair care products too, right? Like hair, uh huh. Yeah. So, they, so, so, so, so, so, they, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, they, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, they are, they are, they are, they are, they are, they are, they are, they are, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they, they, they they they they they they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, like, like, like, like, uh-huh. Yeah, so they are, I see them as topics that only I can really explain as a way to give our audience like deeper insight. So with this piece it was to show the influence that women have had in hip-hop and female MCs and the influence that they've had in music. The thing that I enjoy about Dulcane is that it's just you delivering facts and jokes.

Because like traditionally in the field department, for the people who don't know the creative process over in the field wing, is you have to, you pitch the topic and then the next question is okay well who are we going to talk to about this topic? Who can we get what expert and then it's booking and the next thing you know two months of past because you got the perfect person but they scheduled on and it's too much and you all can just go I. We just gonna talk about this. Now Chelsea, because there is no person attached to this, that means that all of the facts have to come from Dulce, which means we get to have the facts, right?

Which means you're the one deep diving on this. Where did you do? Just, I guess we could talk broader about Dose and but specifically about female MC's and hip hop. Where did you start that journey in assembling the pieces the pieces the pieces the pieces the pieces the pieces the pieces the pieces the history the history the history the history the history the history the history the history the history the history the history the history the history.. the history. the history. the history. th. the. and hip hop. Where did you start that journey in assembling the pieces and looking at the history of it so that then the writers can come into that document and go there's a joke, there's a joke, then Dose comes in and goes, that's a good point, that's a point I want to make, I want to make that point. Yeah, I feel like a lot of it, well this one specifically began through what happened with Megan the Stallion and Tory Lane's last

year. The shooting. Yes, the shooting last July. Operatory Lane's has been charged in connection with the shooting at fellow hip-hop star Megan the Stallion. Lans is accused of shooting, Megan the stallion's feet back in July after she exited his SUV during a fight in the Hollywood Hills. Got shot in both feet.

Yes, I'm both her feet after they went to a party together. Bastard. So we had been trying to figure out how are we going to put this into some sort of piece. Like we need to do something because she is also not the first female rapper that's something like that has happened to in this industry. So it just felt like, I don't know. It just their it just their it just their it just their their their there was like there was like there was like there was there was like there was like there was like there was like there was like there was like there was like there was like there was like there was like there was like there was like that has happened to in this industry. So it just felt like, I don't know, it just felt like there was like, not a trend, but like there, yes, a trend. Yeah, it's like the sexism in the industry

and how it affects like black women that specifically occupy the rap space, which is so misogynistic, I think anybody would admit. So we wanted to tackle that in some to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the their their their their their their their to, to, tooom, the the tooom, tooom, the the thoom, thoom, thea, theaq, thae, thea, tran, tran, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, tr.e, tr.e, tre.e.e.e.e.eck.eckoomorrow, noteck.eck.eck.eck. Ande, note, trto tackle that in some way, shape, reform, and it kind of ended up getting to the space of, well, let's talk about how women have influenced hip hop in general, because it's very much thought of as only men have done everything and that it is still very male-dominated. But as we showed, and as Dulce said, like, black women literally founded and helped put together the first rap record. So it's like we've been there since the beginning and you know we deserve our flowers and all

the female rappers especially deserve their flowers because they never get them enough. Now I saw the piece and I was disappointed to see that Charlie Baltimore had been passed over. Now, there's only so much time. That's not disrespect to Madam Charlie Baltimore. One of my favorite rappers from the 90s, thank you very much. But Chelsea, Chelsea Dendell said, what were some pieces of the historical timeline? Like, what did you have to cut?

Who are the rappers that you didn't get a chance to get in that? Because you know, I'm a Southern guy, so I'm already the the th. th. I'm already the rappers that you didn't get a chance to get in that? Because you know I'm a southern guy so I'm already biased to like the Mia X and the gangster booze of the world. The trinus. Thank you so much for saying Mia X. We wanted to include salt, pepper and Spendarela. I mean like they were some of the first ones like we had so many people rappers. It was like you have to mention them. Right. It was it was it was. It was like. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. you have to mention them. Right, right. It was like, it was literally like Sophie's choice. It was like, who are we going to mention? Because we know we're going to offend somebody. And we actually weren't even able to,

ideally we had wanted to end like on where we are now and like highlight, you know, the Megan, the science, the Cardi B's, Nicki Minaj who kind of ushered in this entire new era and we weren't really able to so we didn't we weren't able to get them in we weren't able to get Trina the baddest bitch you know there were just a few that unfortunately we couldn't you know put in but they mean so much to hip hop and like that's not at all in so you had to focus on the foundation of the genre right they'll say well you okay with that the the the the the th th th th all th all th all th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi tho to to to to to to thi. thi. to to to tho tho. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi theeeeeeeeea. So. And toea. And they're they're they're they're they're they're they're not they're not thi they're thi. this genre. They'll say, well, you okay with that? Once you all came to that decision, like, hey, we ain't got enough time to talk about present-day hip-hop,

we're talking from, you know, back in the day, we're talking from cross-color Carl Knai. Right, right up and Kuhji dresses. Yeah, right, right. th up up up up up until up to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the to to the to to to the til, tip, tip, tip, tip, tip, tha, tha, tha, tie, tow, tie, tha, tha, tha, tha, tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, their, the, the, their their their the-a. the-a., the-a., thea., thea., thea., thea., thea., thea., thea., toda, today, todLC and then after that that's going to be the cutoff. Right, well I think it's like, I think us not being able to include more present-day artists was a bit of a disservice, but one, you got to cut stuff for time sometimes. But also I think when it comes to the music industry and it comes to hip-hop, everything is very much what's happening now. Who's hot now? What's going on now?

Whose album just dropped? Who's single just dropped? So I think we're very much aware of who is popping currently? So I think it being a bit of a history lesson was beneficial to people because there's a whole generation of folks that don't know that Queen Latifah was a rapper. They argue me down about Will Smith, the youngest. He never rapped. He won the first rap group. What are you talking about? Do they even know about the fashion influence the like the young man so I do sound like a uncle you right

I stand I'm sliding I'm like I don't know about what them women did tell young kids don't know nothing about this I'm worried about that I'm gonna hit auntie status before I become a mother and that situation I'm gonna I can't handle that situation. Queen Latifah burst onto the rap scene with the pro-woman message. Her song Ladies First showed off not only her lyrical prowess but also uplifted women and name-checked other female emcees she was shouting out more women than Mambo number five then in 1993 her song called UNITY called

up men in hip-hop for referring to women as bitches and hoes. Bitches and hoes! That's my bad I got called up I could see why I shouldn't accept that. I'm gonna just leave. That's where I think Dool-Saying is such a rewarding segment because in a lot of ways when you're doing segments that are about black issues Chelsea, how are you all making sure that are about black issues, Chelsea, how are you all making sure that you're honoring like, because a black person or white person will watch the segment different if we're just going to be blunct. A black person is looking to see confirmation of things that they already knew and it's great to see it being presented to another

audience, whereas non-black viewers, it's kind of a, well, damn, I didn't know that. It's information. Like, that's, it's interesting you said it that way, because like, that's how I view, like, just my stand-up comic. Like, when I'm trying out a new bit, I'm looking for information. Does this work? Once the bit is established, and I know it works, then it's confirmation.

I already know this is funny. I'm just waiting for you to catch up. So when it comes to these segments, it's I know one group of people, like when we are looking through scripts and we're fact checking, it's, I gotta make sure that black people won't go, hey man, that's not, no, you should have, you should have said something, that's not right. Um, because like when we first got like the first job

to the script, when we were talking about Queen Latifah, and they were referencing her being a character on, like, her playing a character on living single, her name was wrong in the script. And I just was like, her thia her, like, thia her, thia her, thia, thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, to thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I just was like, her name is Kedija, not whatever they put in. And I'm like, oh, we gotta fact check that. I'm like, what the hell are you fact checking? I just told you. Ask a black person in the hall.

The black person just told you. I've watched, not only did I see all the living single the first time, single was up against Seinfeld in the same time slaughter on Thursdays and mad about you don't ask me how I know I listen honestly I think mad about you might be one of the reasons I have a thing for these you know God's chosen people honestly I've been trying to figure it out and I was like okay that's a separate podcast that's not it that's a separate lifestyle um but I do like the fact that we're thin that that that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a th a th. th. th. th. that's a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's a th. th. that's a th. th. the that's a the th. that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that that we're making, that's where, when I look at pieces like this, like when we're talking about, you know, the black hair products and things like that, there are certain, like when we do these pieces, I'm always like, okay, we have to make sure

we have a black writer on this, because sometimes of the black person, I don't like being questioned. Because I don't like thi. the their thi. thi. I, I, I, I, I, thi. I, thi, I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I'm, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, thi. Like, I'm asking me? Well, we gotta say, we're gonna do Google? Is Google your reference? Because I just told you. So, that's when you're saying like, black people are looking for confirmation. Anyone who is not aware is looking for information. So you want to make sure, and that's the thing with all of these pieces,

you have to make sure that you're doing that you're that you're that you're thua thuato make sure that you're doing both things. You don't want to misinformed, but you also don't want to say the wrong stuff because black people be like, y'all could have just, bro, you know, you know that. They'll call you out. Josie, before we go to a break real quick, I have to ask you a question since I know you were in on the writing part of this. There was a particular correspondent that was written into this piece whose job it was to just come on and look like stupid man who interrupts a woman. And rapping in a group is great for a female MC.

Because when the man repeats what you just said but slightly louder, he's not being sexist, he's being a good hype man. Being a good hype man. See, women weren't just part of rap's birth. They also invented the rap beef. The rap beef. Okay, that's enough. Whose decision was it to put this brother on the chopping block?

Um, the front of all the black women's on the internet. How does that happen? Like when you start having all these extra cameos and stuff. Yeah, I feel like sometimes it'll come out of the deep dive team. Like we'll be like, oh, you know what would be a funny addition here is like the idea of like a hype man and especially like ironic because we're talking about, you know, women MC's and I don't know, just like the cultural meaning of a hype man in hip hop is just so important. It was just funny. Like it was like you can't, you know, and nobody else would have made sense, honestly, Roy.

Like it's like... Who's it supposed to be? Right, who else was supposed to be my hype man? All right, well, after the break, we're going to get into a little bit about our own personal relationships with hip-hop. Since I am the eldest uncle, I'm sure I remember some people that maybe you two don't and we'll compare notes on which female MC's influenced us the most. This is beyond the scenes. We'll be right back. John Stewart here. Unbelievably exciting here. My new podcast, the weekly show, the weekly show. We're gonna be talking about the election, election, economics, to to to ea, to ea going to be talking about the election economics ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches listen to the weekly show with John Stewart wherever

you get your podcast let's talk for a second about your personal relationship with female MCs in hip-hop like as women as black women's as women's as women's. The representation how I'm joking I'm joking but empowering was it to see that, you know, on television or did you all always see that and feel like it was not enough? Chelsea, I'll start with you. I mean, I feel like the most impactful one for me actually was probably Nikki Minaj because of when she came out, which was like, was like the latter half of my high school years and

I wanted to say that was like the first rap album I'd bought for myself with Pink Friday I don't know if I really got like the magnitude of the moment when I you know bought it but like I knew that like okay this is this is gonna be great I love love this girl. It was also because she was featured on Mariah's song, so, and I'm a huge Mariah Carrey fan. But other than that, I would say yeah. And then side note for that, Mariah always featured a lot of female MCs on her remixes in the 90s and then she would go.

Yeah, she had a remixed one of hip hop in the 90s. And then she would go through the singing album. Yeah, she had a remix to one of her songs with Bone Thugs and Harmony. Like, right, Harry. Oh my God. She got album under Tony Matola and was like, I'm with all the black people now. Negroes own dirty bastard. Let me tell him to shimmy y'a all over this track and watching. watching your platinum. Dulce, you're a little different in my opinion than Chelsea in that you came up in a city, two cities actually, Miami and Atlanta

that acoustically are so unique that it is possible to be a fan of someone who is game busters regionally. But nationally people don't necessarily connect or resident, the gangster booze, or I guess it for your era, crime mob. You know what? Right, because like, uh... Hey, yo, we're knocking, we're ready to fight. Also, people only think, when you talk about who's in crime mob, who do they talk about, princess and diamond.

I don't know what them dudes names are no fucking clue it's true it's true so who was some more of the mainstreams that you that you kind of fell in love with coming out I remember as a kid seeing Queen Latifah perform ladies first on TV I don't know if it was like in Living Color or it was like on a late night show, but I remember seeing Queen Latifah perform on TV. I break into a lyrical freestyle, the mic check the trial of the steam. But it only seemed like there were mainly like female rappers from like the north because like you like, you know, Queen Latifah in Selt and pepper and then like, when Debratt the the the the th th th the th the th th th the th the north because like you like you know Queen Latifah NC Light and salt and pepper and then like when Debrat came out it was like and the

Bratt's not from the south either but she was with Demaine Jopri so by default she's a southern she's Chicago yeah that's what I thought she's from Chicago so I think the only the first time I really heard a female rapper that was from a sound that I was accustomed to was when the br br br. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I was a the. I was from. I was from. I was from. I was from. I was from. I was from. I was from. I was from. I was from. I was from. I was from from. I thought. I think. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I was from from from from from from from from from. I was from. I was from. I was from. I was from. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was like. I'm. I was from a sound that I was accustomed to was when Debratt came out and you would be on songs with Jermaine Dupree. The thing that I thought was very interesting, it seemed like there was a, and you all correct me or from wrong, but it seems like when female MC's first came in the game, there had to be kind of a rough, you know, MC-like, you know, the ruff and stuff with your Afro puffs? Yeah, lady a rage. Yeah, because I remember my mom. Conscious daughters, that was another regional one out west. My mom did my hair like her one time, like lady a rage,

but like I had a relaxer so I couldn't have afro puffs. So my mother bought burgundy weave. My, this is like in like the mid the mid the mid the mid the mid the mid the mid the mid the mid the mid. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you, this is like in the mid-90s in Miami, so every little girl had grown woman ass hair. Oh no. Like I remember being in like elementary school and being like, we're playing toucest football today and it was like me and like, these are fresh finger waves, coach. Nope, I ain't running around in this Miami heap of fresh finger waves. Nah, I do, it's gotta last till Sunday. So, my mom gave me, geled on my hair down,

and I had legit burgundy Afro puffs, because apparently my mother really was a fan of the late range. Are there pictures, we need pictures of that. No, I don't come from a picture to take a family. Go to the Daily Show to Dulseay's, Lady H, Circus in 2002. Maybe one day, but I I I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I. I, I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. I, I th. I thi. I th. I th. I have th. I had th. I had thi. I had thi. I had, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had, I the. I the. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I have, I have, I have, I have the. the. the. theateateateateateat. theateateateateateate. theateateate. I have one day baby. But yeah I read so like I think because I grew up in the 90s I remember seeing a lot of female rappers and then there weren't any because like MC Light on the where she went and then like you know Trina and gangster boo po popped up, but it's kind of like when people talk about like, okay, they

can only be like one big black comic at a time, right? So it's like, it was prior, and then there was Eddie Murphy, and then, you know, now it's, you know, the Chappelle and Kevin Hart, so thi. they're just going, you can only have one big female rapper at a time when there's a bunch of dudes talking nonsense all day and everyone's on board with it. I always felt like there was a feeling where there was proud to be a woman, there was like a proud to be woman era of lyricism within female hip hop. And then it was, I'm as bad as these dudes and I'll beat your ass error lyricism which is kind of the brat and which is kind of gangster boo which is a little bit Trina and Trina was kind of that transition in little Kim

I'm a tho shade if I can't get paid blow you up to your girl like the army penate you can slide on my ice like the escapade him it to get a to the trace. Little Kim is kind of overlap, I'll beat your ass, but also we can have sex if you would like to have sex, which one, which you prefer? And now I feel like female rappers have given so much space now finally to be all of the different things that a woman can be like, I love, and I'm not saying this because she's from Montgomery Alabama I really enjoy Chica I really enjoy Chika is a really a million from

Millie too is from Alabama yeah I'm really from Alabama and there's this expressiveness of no I'm gonna talk about my inner thoughts and my wants and I don't have to if I choose to I don't have to I don't have to sexualize my lyrics you you have the freedom and the right to but I can also to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the to to to the to the to the the the to the the to the to to to to to to the to to the to to to to the the to the to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the to to the to to to to the too. too. to to to to to to the to the to the to the the to the to to to to to to I don't have to sexualize my lyrics. You have the freedom and the right to, but I can also be something else in the industry goes, ah, yes, you, come, come get a record deal to. Yeah, I feel like there's a lot more choice nowadays than there used to be. I do feel like, you know, that gap that we were just talking about, came up and they changed the entire game like if we're being 100% honest, you know, Kim and Foxy made

women owning their sexuality a thing. It wasn't really talked about often from the woman's perspective in in rap and hip hop the way that they were talking about it before them. But kind of in consequence to that, that was then expected of all female rappers for at least a decade was it's just you need to be the next Kim Foxy which means you need to be dripped in Gabana like they said you need to be talking about sex as like all the time you need to be selling sex like it was a very specific archetype that they wanted for so long and record labels even have said it now that they they said women rappers were just too expensive. And that's one of the reasons there was such a long gap is they were like, we don't want to get a rubber rapper because then we gotta pay for hair, we gotta pay for nails, we gotta pay for your looks, we gotta pay for all this stuff.

You've made it now so expensive to be a woman rapper. And then you're acting like, that's the reason to gate keep keep, I mean with little Kim, like the thing I remember specifically about being like when I was like middle school going into high school. One, little Kim has a line in her song where she says I could make a sprite can disappear in my mouth. And there was way too many people attempting this. Um. Just a lot Joe. Just destroyed. Just just just just, just, and then feeling inadequate. I'd never tried it because I was like, this makes no sense. And then I remember a rumor about Little Kim having to go to the hospital to get her stomach pumped because she'd had a wild night with a couple of men and let's just say there was, uh, I don't know how the way to say this to keep a Christian.

Ejaculate, I guess is the best way to say it? Yeah, I think people get the gist. Yeah, well, I mean, she did too. So it's like, this is so sexual, but it seemed like it was, we're being open about our sexuality, but it was still through a male gaze. Yeah. Like it was like, I'm going to talk about sex as a woman, how men talk about sex. And I still felt like it didn't feel like it was from a woman's perspective.

Like I think the, I think it took like, Nikki or now, especially Megan the Stallion and Cardi B, but especially Megan the stallion. I was like, this is what it sounds like when a woman talks about sex. Because Megan's always talking about a man pleasuring her. You know what I mean? As opposed to, because it seemed like a little Kim times like a little Kim and Foxy Brown, it was still them

talking about, like they were open with their sexuality, but it was still talking about pleasuring a man. You see what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Like them receiving pleasure from pleasering a man. As opposed to, you know Megan's the style, their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, like, thi, thi, they's they's they's they's, like, like, like, thi, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's they's they's they're they're they're thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. tooooooooo, te. te. te. te. te. thi, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thi. know, Megan's the style and being like, yeah, you're going to go down on me while I play a video game. Like, you're like, yeah, that is about her. Yeah, you call me Patty Cake, because the way that ass shake, I'm gonna make them eat me off while I'm watching anime. We gotta go to break, but I'll tell you my female rapper that energized and awakened me. And it's in that same little Kim, Foxy Brown, Trina, sexualized bravado era, but you had real flow as well. That's the other thing, like this wasn't gimmick rap.

These women had bars. But for me, it was Mia X. Because Mia X was so counterculture to what everybody was doing. And when Master P dropped Unbowed in 1995, and they shot that video in the Calio Projects and Mia X, she's wearing a black baseball jersey and she's got a baseball bat, she's wearing a do-rag,

and I'm like, this woman will beat the shit out of me. Ha ha ha! That's my undivided attention. That's a whole bunch of niggins that I'm bough. That was the woman I just like, oh yeah, braided. That was the woman I just like, oh yeah, bra the brunt. That was the one, like to this day, I met her at Essence Fest. And I basically told her that story. I was like, just you with the back. I met her at Essence Fest, and I basically told her

that story. I was like, just you with the back, and she said, yes, baby, I will beat the shit out of you. I said, thank you. Look, God. Yes. I remember seeing her, and the thing is because, like, Queen Latifah has a small woman, right? I don't know how like like thia thia thia is a plus-size model? But she just looks like a, she's not a fashion woman. She's real well regular. She looks the type of curvy that they want. Right. Yeah. So that's how Queen Latifo looked to me,

but when I saw me at X and I'm like, oh I know a million women that look like this woman. I am I currently like I look like she she looked familiar and she felt familiar. And so and little bastards in my neighborhood started calling me Mia X and I was like I don't hate it. Um, so actually thank you. Um. But I remember hearing her and going, absolute, like yes, like I was always happy to hear her and to see her. And it was like, it felt like Master P. really fucked with her. Because it seemed like sometimes like,

right, like sometimes when these girls and these, like, the women in some rap groups are just like, oh yeah, we got a girl. She, she, uh, she, uh, come. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yes, like, like, like, th. th. Yes, th. Yes, th. Yes, th. Yes, th. Yes, th. Yes, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. girls and these like the women in some rap groups are just like, oh yeah we got a girl. She, uh, come on sweetheart, come say some words. Come on, we got a girl. Which was great, the crime mob had two girls. Um, who have the two, like, the one, you know, I love Nuck if you buck, we've all decided at work that it would be the new Negro spiritual. But, but it, but it, but it, but it, but it, but it, but it, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, the, they, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi,. But it was the same kind of feeling because when you would be out in Atlanta, that was the lines, like their verses, you would just see just hood-ass dudes in Atlanta and everybody's

thing, like, because sometimes you know what dudes they'll like stop on the female verse. Mm-hmm. They stop rapping. They're like, I ain't gonna say this like, nah-uh, when Diamond Princess came on, everybody was, they were like, we don't care today women because these bitches are going in. So I like, I was so glad when they got to be more female southern rappers because this because this was a style that I liked. And I was like I know there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm thi thi thi thi thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thiiiii. I'm they're thi. I'm they're thi. they're they're they're like to be women out here rapping that are from the South. Like it doesn't make any sense. It's only New York chicks doing this. Even in regards to Mia X. like, that's also getting into the fact that so many of these labels who really got famous off of the female rappers that they signed on them last year. Ruthless Records with EasyE.

J.J. Fad, which was an all-women rap group, was the first record that started charting for them and put them on the map. And those aren't the only two examples. It happens so much. But again, nobody gives the women their credit that they rightfully deserve. This is Mia X bar, and then we're gonna go to a break. This is Mia X, I'm about it. It's like a 1995, poetry.

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After the break, I want to talk to you all about the challenges that female rappers are facing now in the industry and kind of where things are th........ th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi rappers are facing now in the industry and kind of where things are headed. I'm Roy Bjering, this is beyond the scenes. We'll be right back. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, the weekly show coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart wherever you get your podcast. We've been talking about all of these amazing MCs and the ways they influenced us.

Before the break, we forgot to talk about Lauren Hill. Funny how money changed a situation. And just what Lauren Hill meant to that brain. Because we talked about the transition of lyricism out of sexualization into whatever, which way you wanted to go. I think it's fair to say that Lauren Hill was able to kind of expand minds in the sense that, oh, if you don't want to pop you Coochee, you can also talk about this. Yeah, definitely. I would definitely say that I don't think we would have a Drake without Lauren Hill if I'm being honest, just in terms of like the rap band singing. Like, I mean, if we want to trace the lineage here, I'm just saying it exists.

But, you know, in terms of the rap- It's Lauren Hill 2.0. Well, I don't know if I go that far with him, but like, you know, he's a good, he's a good. He's a good attempt. wouldn't have an Azalea Banks, we wouldn't have like so many now rappers incorporate the CD-Fibes. I mean do we do we have? Well, thanks, where is she? I will also very much say the Azalea Banks before everything recently. But. Okay, her man, she need help though. I know, I don't know why we don't want to help her. We put up a Kani's foolishness. We have. We have for very good. But I guess if th. th. then, th. th. th. th. th. th. then, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to. to to to to to to then yeah, we would... Okay, so then to that point then, Dosey, what are some of the biggest hurdles that are faced by female MCs? Because Azale is a woman who's been very vocal about the industry and the shadiness of it. What are some of the things that you think women themsees are dealing with today today today today today today today today today today today today today today today today today today today tho tho thi. thi. thi. W wo thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. What are thi. What are thi. What are thi. What are thi. What are thi. What are thi. What are thi. What are thi. What are thi. What are thi. What are th. What th. What th. What th. W th. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. today that they weren't saying in 1993.

Now you can meet to these niggins. Before you just had to take it. Like before you couldn't say anything and also would anybody have cared in the first place. But if you're coming out rapping about, you know, sucking, dick's, pop and pussy, bada da da da da da da da. da, are people gonna have any sympathy for you when you go, hey, this man was being inappropriate? You're like, ma'am, we got two albums of you being inappropriate. So I think now you're able to,

you're able to have some agency over what happens to you more because now you can hold people accountable in some form of fashion. So the abuse that happens to women rappers within the industry, they can call that out faster to weed that out and have a better chance of having a career that's not deterred by that type of drama. Yeah, because I'm sure like a lot of female rappers could you see like, because I've always wondered like you have these female rappers and I'm like, where'd she go? And I can't always believe it's like, oh, her record stops selling.

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were dealing with because you don't have to be beholden to some man having a chokehold on your future. It's like, well, you know, if you do this and you know we might not put your album like, I'm like, I'm gonna need you out, the whole internet, I put this album all over that. That's Cardi B all day. Right. So I have space. I'm not, the system is going, like the system broke. The system broke, you can release songs for free

if you want to just to get your name out. And so you don't have to wait to be the one female rapper that they let pop every five years. Why is that, Chelsea, is that are the women rappers held to a different standard? Because from what I can hear the songs are just as hot, the flow is just as good. Yeah, no, I definitely think that women rappers are held to different standards. I think this is actually something Dulce and I were talking about is just, it's kind of no matter what industry you're in. Women are constantly underestimated and thought of as lower and especially in rap,

which is so male dominated and misogynistic, like these women are still getting asked whether they write their lyrics. I'm like, men don't even write their lyrics anymore. Like, why is that even still a question? Like, people are still like, oh, did Cardi B write X, Y, Z, D da, da, da, and it's like, does it matter? Like, you know, like, who cares? But then on top of that, like, they have to do all the-

So you got, hella ghost writers. Okay, I mean, I'm like, that's why we supposed to be super fashionable all the time. They have to have all the helicorioography, like they are dancing. They are giving you, they're rapping, they're trying to dance like they're Janet Jackson, and at the same time, like, still trying to keep a bomb flow and have great lyrics, and the men just aren't, listen, Migos can walk around three times and they'll be out of breath. There's also just the fact that there's so many mediocre rapping men out here, like, but we can't have a female equivalent of that or whenever somebody is like not to whatever xy z standard is, it's suddenly like the whole hip hop world is going to go and burst into flames because this girl can't the the. And it's like, I, I, I, I, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I's the the thi, tho, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. There's the. the. the. There's the the the the the the, their, burst into flames because this girl can't wrap on beat or whatever.

And it's like you know how many men can't? Most of them. I mean I think for me the true measure of equality is allowing mediocrity. Truly. Oh. Because when I think of, because like, only 20% of comics are women, right? So out of 100 comics, 20 of them are women, and I had a conversation with, ooh, mm-mm, I held the shade back in.

I held the shade back in, mm-hmm, I'm so proud of myself. Good job. I'm trying to be blessed this year. And, but he was like, I don't know a lot of women killers. I'm just like, are you looking for male killers? Because he's like, well, you know, I'll see a lineup. And I'm like, out of 10 comics, only one of them is a woman. Out of a lineup on a show, out of 10 comics, there's usually one of them as a woman. Out of these other nine comics that are all men, four of them probably are okay.

But all, every female comic is represented in this one girl, right? And she has to destroy. She has to fucking destroy. And so, because when women succeed in a male-dominated industry, it's just like when you're, you know, any marginalized group that is trying to be successful in an industry that's either predominantly white or predominantly male, you're going to have a problem and you're going to be held at a different standard because it's like, well, you need to show us that you're as good as us. And I'm like, half of your motherfuckers are trash. So I only need to be as good as half of y'all, technically. Yeah, but the industry wants you to be undeniable across the board

better than any man we've ever seen. I'm really waiting for the day where female artists, because it seems like as I've gotten older, the less and less clothes female artists have on. Just in any, like the only girls that are still really seen like fully dressed are like country singers. Them girls still got clothes on. Everybody else by half naked. And I was like, okay, when we can get to the point where you can listen to a woman

perform a song, and she, in something, in her titties aren't out, her ass, to to to to to to to to their to be, to be woman perform a song and she in something in her titties aren't out her ass it's not just literally fully dressed then it's just like okay because if it was because also there's a lot of ugly male rappers a lot of them. There are no ugly female rappers. None. Hang on let me there are no ugly female rappers. None. Hang on, let me think. Hang on, uh-uh, let me think. Let me see. Let me see. Yeah, eights are better. All eights are better. It's a lot of fours with the male rappers. Eh, negative sixes. Just out here. In the world. But they'll say, you don't think that Watt being performed at the Grammys was like this major th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. But Dilsa, you don't think that

WAP being performed at the Grammys was like this major moment for sex positivity? Absolutely it was. Absolutely. And it was interesting to see the flats freak out to the point they were having like medical professionals interviewing them like, well is this a thing like well no actually if if this is happening to you then it's a disorder bitch you're not fined a tell me that a wet pussy is a disorder I'm not gonna do this I'm not gonna listen to this nonsense we're not gonna no I'm a Christian I'm not gonna listen to this so to this so to thi th I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thr- I'm thr- I'm thr-I'm not this this this th this this this this this this this this this this this this this to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to this to this this this this this this this this this this this this this this th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi this this this this this thi this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this to to to see people just short circuit over this song. Because I remember the first time I heard it and I just was like, I don't think I'm old enough to listen to the song.

I truly, I need adult supervision. This song needs to come. I was like, oh, this is why parental advisory stickers were invented. Because they were like, well, our children, I'm just like, listen, it is not TV's responsibility to raise.. the first the first the first the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. I. I. I. I. I'm just like listen it is not TV's responsibility to raise your child period and like what we look up to them as role models and I was like if your children aren't being provided with better role models and Cardi B there's something going on there's something wrong in your house so Chelsea as we wrap up here to the future of the women's? Who's the furcher of

black women's? Female hip-hop? I love Flomilly. I love Bree Runway. I am Dochi. Um, Sweetie, I feel like, is gonna have, like, she's about to hit that atmospheric stage, I feel like, that we were talking about. She's coming around the corner too, yeah, she's known. Yeah, she's dropped that dead weight. And yeah, I feel like those ones, those are the ones that I listen to mostly. And then of course, like Megan, I feel like she hasn't really hit like that big, big, you know, stage yet, but I feel like it's like going to happen. She got the Beyonce vouch at the Grammys. I think that's the next thing, you know,

she did. She did. It'll be interesting though, because I feel like last year was kind of a mulligan because of COVID, there was no touring. And touring is just as important to to the female artist, to female, to female, to female, to female, to female, to female, to female, to female, to female, to ma, to female, to ma, to to musicians in general, but to really tour a single, that's a very, very important part of being able to become atmospheric and go to that next level. For sure. Well, this was a fun conversation. We didn't even get a chance to talk about them white women rappers out in Oakland. Oh, you're talking about V Nasty? Yeah we didn't even get into that. Yeah V Nasty got canceled and then what's that girl that did the Gucci

Gucci song? What other one got out the game? Cray Sean? And then I think she had like a remix. Igloo Australia. Yeah well we and we never got to talk about Iggy azalea. That might be Igloo Australia. That's Igloo Australia. Yes. It, listen. The shades coming out at the end. How it's just.

Let me taste some that. That was an Azalea Bank special. She came up with that. That is a hundred percent. Praise God. We took her for it. Murder business was great and then she started going on like the press tour and then she started talking and everybody went, oh, you've went?

Like Keith Urban is Australian and that's still confusing to me as well, right? But we let it ride. But Iggy Azalea, listen, when we found out she was Australia and everybody dropped her like a hot rock and TI just had to go, I'm sorry friend, and just let her go, if she'd have been from Atlanta, she'd have been fine. Yeah, she'd have been fine. If she was from any, she could have been from Wisconsin and we would allow it, Montana, North Dakota. We don't care. We might have gave her Canada. Australia Australia Australia Australia Australia Australia Australia Australia Australia Australia Australia Australia Australia Australia. to Australia. th Australia. th Australia. th Australia. th Australia. th Australia. th Australia. th Australia. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. the the the the to to to to the thi. Listen. Listen, to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the they. Listen. Listen. Listen, the the thi. Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen would allow it. Montana, North Dakota, we don't care. We might have gave her Canada. Australia?

No. Next time, the next adult saying, we'll do white female MC's. Listen, I love V. Nasty. And then she kept getting trouble for saying the end word. And she was just like, but we're not playing, no, and she's like, but we're like, no, and she just would not stop saying it and she got canceled, but Cray's home was fun.

I'm just like, yeah, this girl's got about two years and she's gonna be back at that office depot. Well, V. Nasty, Nasty. I lived up to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. to to their. their. I to their. their. I to their. to their. their. to to to to their. to to their. And, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. And she's, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, the. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And and the listeners through this wonderful, wonderful journey of female MCs and hip-hop, Chelsea Williamson Daily Show, Deep Dive, thank you, Dulce, Sloan, as always. You can see Dulce on the daily show and you can see Chelsea's great work on the daily show every single night. I'm Roy Wood Jr. This has been beyond the scenes. We just went beyond the scenes. We did it beyond the scenes. We did it. Now we're back in the present. Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Guccithe Iheart Radio App, or

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