The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Hurricanes, Ghosts, and the Power of Teen Stories
Episode Date: October 9, 2024Jordan Klepper unpacks Trump’s latest political spin. Michael Kosta interviews Marlene Bourne, a self-proclaimed ghost and the source of Fox News's voter fraud claims, to uncover her strange connect...ion to their $787.5 million settlement with Dominion Voting Systems. Bestselling author Jason Reynolds talks to Jordan about his new novel “Twenty-Four Seconds From Now...” and the importance of representing teens in literature.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm Erin Moriarty of 48 Hours and of all the cases I've covered, this is the one that
troubles me most.
A bizarre and maddening tale involving an eyewitness account that doesn't quite make
sense.
A sister testifying against a brother.
A lack of physical evidence.
Crosley Green has lived more than half his life behind bars for a crime he says he didn't
commit.
Listen to Murder in the Orange Grove, the troubled case against Crosley Green,
wherever you get your podcasts.
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From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central,
it's America's only source for news.
This is The Daily Show with your host, Jordan Klepper. What's up, Joe? I am Jordan Clember. I got to tell you, we got so much to talk about tonight.
Politicians find a new tragedy to politicize.
Hurricanes are now affecting people who don't exist,
and it turns out that Fox News might not have told the truth.
Can you believe it?
Let's get right into headlines.
Let's start tonight with a little stroll down memory lane.
Remember the early days of the COVID pandemic
when tests had just been developed,
but you couldn't find one to save your life?
Well, now we know where they went.
There is reporting that former president Trump,
the then sitting president at the time,
had, quote, secretly sent Putin a bunch of Abbott point-of-care
COVID test machines for his personal use
as the virus spread rapidly through Russia.
Here's how the phone call goes between Trump and Putin.
Putin says, please don't tell anybody you sent these to me.
Trump, I don't care. Fine.
Putin, no, no.
I don't want you to tell anybody
because people will get mad at you, not me.
They don't care about you.'"
Aww.
If that phone call didn't just annex my heart.
So, Trump was secretly giving sound medical advice
to a foreign adversary while publicly convincing Americans
to poison themselves with bleach.
I gotta say, most presidents would do that
the other way around, but hey, you do you, Trump.
Let's get to our top story tonight.
The country is still dealing with the aftermath
of Hurricane Helene, but now it looks like there's a sequel on the way that may pull a joker,
aka cost a lot more and suck even harder.
The breaking news, potentially one of the most
destructive storms on record.
That's the new warning from the National Hurricane Center
about Hurricane Milton headed for Florida's West Coast.
It's a category 5, which is something that I've never heard,
a category 5 actually coming on to land, but it looks like it's west coast. It's a category five, which is something that I've never heard a category five actually coming on to land,
but it looks like it's going to.
Wow! Donald, you never heard of a category five
hurricane hitting land?
It's weird, because I remember one happening
while you were president.
What did you say after that happened?
I'm not sure that I've ever even heard of a category 5.
Yes, yes, yes.
For all you people who think he's in mental decline,
turns out he's been the same level of stupidity for years.
He must do Sudoku.
Yes.
One, one, one, one, one.
I got it. I got it.
Okay, but, yes, Hurricane Milton is bearing down on Florida,
which is terrible, because we still haven't cleaned up
the fallout from Helene.
And not just the flooding and the debris,
I'm talking about the torrent of misinformation
and bullshit that we're still wading through.
Because if you've been getting your news
from eternal Hurricane on the Spotless Mind over here,
you might think that the victims of Hurricane Helene have been completely abandoned by the government.
The White House is doing nothing.
They've abandoned us.
And you know, it's largely a Republican area.
They haven't seen anybody from the federal government yet.
The federal government isn't there.
Oh! Horrifying, if true.
Comrade Kamala and Sleepy Joe's federal government
has left Republican voters out to dry
just because of their party affiliations.
Now, these Republican governors of those states
must be outraged.
Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin,
tell the world what horrors you've seen.
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We have what we need.
We got what we need.
He offered that if there's other things we need,
just to call him directly.
Oh, okay. All right.
All right. Okay.
Let me get this right.
So every red state governor said Biden
is competently helping them.
It's clear what's happening here.
Either Trump has been lying or every governor has been seduced by the sexual power of Joe
Biden's slow, confused smile. That's a smile that says,
I don't know where I am, but I know where I want to be.
But Trump isn't the only one spreading misinformation.
Conservative media is spreading lies that FEMA is diverting resources to Ukraine,
that Jews in the government are secretly sabotaging aid,
and the biggest conspiracy of all,
that the hurricane was deliberate.
Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene posting on X,
yes, they can control the weather.
It's ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it cannot be done.
Aah!
Whatever happened to the good old days
when conservatives believed sensible things
like hurricanes were creations of God,
who was pissed off by gay marriage.
You know, what happened?
Did God go to a really nice gay wedding in Cabo
and pass off hurricane duties to Chuck Schumer?
You know what? I was against this.
But when I saw Bruce and Gary take those vows, wow.
They had a live band, for Christ's sakes.
That's class.
These crazy conspiracy theories aren't harmless.
They spread paranoia around a population
that is already desperate.
And we're starting to see the effect.
We talked to people who believed that there were
federal officials who were seizing a town
called Chimney Rock, North Carolina,
that there was this conspiracy to seize the town
and to bulldoze all the bodies and hide them,
maybe to mine it for lithium.
What?
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Do you see what's happening?
People are afraid those who are coming to help
are actually coming to steal their lithium.
Everyone, let's be clear, completely clear.
The U.S. government doesn't destroy towns to steal their lithium. Everyone, let's be clear, completely clear.
The U.S. government doesn't destroy towns
to steal their resources.
In the U.S., in the Middle East, sure.
All this misinformation distracts from the fact
that there are real people in these disaster zones
who need help.
Like this heartbreaking photo of this little girl and her puppy.
Beneath all these lies, her suffering is real.
No, these photos claiming to show girls and puppies
being rescued after Hurricane Helene are not real.
They were made with AI.
Damn it!
How can something so fake elicit such real tears?
Of course, this hurricane is happening in 2024,
which means on top of all the misinformation
from our politicians, we also have to deal
with the flood of fake AI bullshit.
Like these pictures of little girls
or this fake picture of Donald Trump
wading through the floodwaters.
Now, this one is subtle, but you can tell this one is fake
because it's a picture of Donald Trump helping people.
Look at him.
But you have to look close.
You have to look close.
For a lot of other pictures, we have to spend time
learning how to spot A.I.
This is how we figured out this photo was A.I.-generated.
You can count that there are six fingers on this hand,
and there's also three nostrils in this guy's nose,
which, obviously, is not a thing.
Thank you, Big Tech, for improving our lives.
We had to bulldoze 15 acres of the Amazon
to make that extra nostril,
but I think we can all agree it was worth it.
For more on the effects of all this misinformation,
let's go live to North Carolina
to interview a first responder
who is part of the rescue efforts, Brad McDonald.
Mr. McDonald.
Mr. McDonald, I want to thank you for joining us.
I got to say, you must be sick of all the fake images
of six-fingered men swirling around out there.
I'll tell you what I'm sick of, Mr. Klepper.
You people in the media who are saying, I'm not real.
Oh, shit.
Okay, wow.
You really have six fingers?
I sure do.
This look artificially generated to you, fancy boy?
I ought to give you a six-knuckle sandwich. All right.
I'm sorry, Mr. McDonald. I had no idea.
Forgive me for asking,
but do you have six fingers on both hands?
Of course not. I'm not a freak.
My other hand is a foot.
Okay, all right. Of course. Clearly.
This is enlightening for me.
Frankly, I had no idea there actually was
a real six-fingered man in North Carolina.
You think I'm the only one?
There's actually six of us, all right?
And together, we've rescued every dog in the county.
But does anybody in the media ever thank us?
No. They call us a bunch of A.I. fakes.
If I ever see one of them news people,
I swear I'm gonna put my hand foot up their ass.
All right, okay. okay, point taken.
I guess we'll need to find other clues that a picture is AI,
like a person having three nostrils.
You mean three-nostril Pete?
I mean, come on, there's no way he's real.
Oh, tell that to his enormous Kleenex bill.
I suppose you want to make fun of his beautiful
three-nostril kids, too, putting down a man
who's already been through so much.
You know, his son, his son has the biggest
coke problem you've ever seen.
Uh-oh.
I'm sorry. I can't even imagine what that's like.
Well, I'll explain. You see, it's like a regular
coke problem, but with three nostrils.
No, I... Yes, no.
Yes, no, I got it. I got it.
I guess I didn't appreciate how difficult this is for you.
How do you get through it?
Well, I find strength in my personal relationship
with Shrimp Jesus.
Now, let me tell you about Shrimp Jesus.
No, no, I'm good.
Thank you, totally real North Carolina resident
Brad McDonald. Thank you.
When we come back, we find out if Fox News lies.
Don't go away.
-♪ I'm Aaron Moriarty of 48 Hours.
And of all the cases I've covered,
this is the one that troubles me most.
A bizarre and maddening tale involving an eyewitness account that doesn't quite make
sense.
A sister testifying against a brother.
A lack of physical evidence.
Crosley Green has lived more than half his life behind bars for a crime he says he didn't
commit.
Listen to Murder in the Orange Grove, the troubled case against Crosley, early and ad-free with a 48-hours-plus subscription
on Apple Podcasts.
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Welcome back to The Daily Show.
We all know that our cable media networks
are the best sources for trusted reporting,
but sometimes they slip up.
Michael Kosta has more.
Last year, Fox News reached a nearly $800 million settlement
with Dominion Voting Systems for falsely claiming
that they rigged the 2020 election.
We begin with some breaking news
and one of the most consequential media trials in decades.
Dominion Voting Systems had alleged
the right-wing network knowingly broadcast lies
that its voting machines were used
to steal the 2020 presidential election.
Avoiding a trial that would have turned Fox News'
biggest stars into star witnesses,
the company will cut a $787.5 million check.
But what you might not realize is that Fox only
reported those claims after one brave woman dared to send them an email. Surely an email
like this must have come from a seasoned investigative journalist or deep state
whistleblower. So who exactly was this incredible source? I kind of liken myself
to that statue of the girl in front of the big bad bull of Wall Street. Meet Marlene Boren.
Staring into the eyes of one of the most powerful, unknown people in American politics was thrilling
and intimidating at the same time.
I needed to know, how did she do it?
So I started doing research.
I applied my research skills.
You know, it's one thing to have a collection of dots.
It's another thing to be able to connect them.
Dots ice cream of the future know informational. So I had
these dots together I just kind of threw together this email.
But this wasn't your typical ordinary email oh no this email
had life altering consequences.
Walk me through that fateful day November 7th around 5 o 7
Walk me through that fateful day, November 7th, around 5.07 p.m. The weather was crisp, the leaves were turning.
I put together this email in about an hour, thought it over, hit send, and that was it.
And that was it.
Time to get to this infamous email that altered U.S. elections for generations.
So you're probably already aware of voting irregularities
in a number of states which have one common thread,
Dominion voting systems.
Nancy Pelosi's longtime chief of staff
is a key executive.
Up to 3% of votes for Mr. Trump
would automatically switch to Mr. Biden.
That's what American Express charges merchants
as a transaction fee.
Marlene, I needed a visual aid to help me with this email,
but what do you think about this?
It's way more complicated than that.
Okay, if you didn't get all that, it clearly states that Diane Fine, 3% transaction fee, and then basically, the election was stolen.
What do you say to people who say, Marlene, your email, it's a big conspiracy?
So fine, I'm a conspiracy theorist.
I also happen to be correct.
So what started out as just an email led to this.
The Dominion software.
I know that there were voting irregularities.
Then this.
There are substantial questions with Dominion.
All the way up the swampy drainpipe to this.
The Dominion machines move thousands of votes from my account to Biden's
account. Causing people to believe the election was stolen. And again, because of one email,
I needed to know which hungry reporter first followed up on this explosive news.
No one. A text. No. They sent a messenger to your house. No. They contacted your lawyer and said,
please have her identify the sources. No. A singing telegram. No. A hot a messenger to your house. No. They contacted your lawyer and said, please have her identify the sources.
No.
A singing telegram.
No.
A hot air balloon.
Not a.
A carrier pigeon.
Zilch.
Nobody contacted you.
Crickets.
Crickets contacted you?
I heard nothing but crickets.
Oh, I see, okay.
Yet they were using your information
to broadcast and share it with their viewers.
Apparently so.
You know, that's the respect that I crave.
I love that people just accept what you're saying as truth.
So what would have been one of the biggest stories
in U.S. political history wasn't even fact-checked.
But I get it.
There's no need to fact-check because Marlene
is a reputable source that does her homework.
What were your sources behind the conclusions
you came about Dominion Voting System?
The wind told me that there were people who wanted to know,
wanted to hear what I had to say.
So I could have sent just your...
Wait, I'm sorry.
I was nodding, but I didn't really understand what you said.
The wind told you?
The wind told me.
And the wind speaks English?
Yes.
Okay.
Look, everyone has their quirks.
It's not always how you get the information, but rather the confidence in knowing the person
who's delivering it is a legit source.
I'm a ghost.
I talk with other ghosts.
Am I Hailey Jo Osmond in Sixth Sense right now?
Is this real?
Well, if Fox knew this, there's no way they would have aired the content of this email.
Quote, the wind tells me I'm aote, the wind tells me I'm a ghost.
The wind tells me I'm a ghost.
You would think that the contents of this letter
would have sent it straight to the trash bin.
But no, instead they took that garbage
and read it out loud on air the very next day.
There has been a massive and coordinated effort
to steal this election.
Who knew all that was needed to take down Fox News
was a ghost fluent in wind.
You did it.
Tucker Carlson's gone.
Fox News had to pay $780 million.
Yeah, Americans don't trust democracy as much anymore,
but you did it.
Listen to the wind man.
It will tell you things.
It's simply having an awareness of your surroundings. Maybe I needed to be more open-minded like Marlene and pay attention to my surroundings,
listen to the breaking wind instead of the breaking news. And it turns out it has a lot
to say. And it's telling me the election of 2024 is going to be one hell of a shitshow.
Thank you, Wendt.
Thank you, Michael.
We come back.
Author Jason Reynolds will be joining me on the show.
Don't go away.
I'm Erin Moriarty of 48 Hours,
and of all the cases I've covered, this is the one that troubles
me most.
A bizarre and maddening tale involving an eyewitness account that doesn't quite make
sense.
A sister testifying against a brother.
A lack of physical evidence.
Crosley Green has lived more than half his life behind bars for a crime he says he didn't
commit.
Listen to Murder in the Orange Grove,
the troubled case against Carlsly Green,
wherever you get your podcasts.
best-selling author of 21 books for children and young adults. His latest book is called 24 Seconds From Now.
Please welcome Jason Reynolds.
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-♪ Jason, how are you, sir? I'm good. I'm good. Now, they tell me, they say this is your first YA romance novel, but you insist it is not
a romance novel.
It is a book about love.
Listen, I'm nervous to say that it is a romance novel.
I'm nervous to say that it's not a romance novel
because my buddies who work in romance
are very particular about the craft that, you know, they're craft.
Sure.
What I will say is that there's romance here.
There is romantic moments.
But instead of thinking about it as a romance novel for me,
I like to think of it as a love story
in which this young man is actually trying to figure out who he is in the midst of sort of these new feelings
around his girlfriend.
Oh. Yeah.
But that just...
That wouldn't fit on the cover, essentially.
But that doesn't fit on the cover.
It doesn't fit on the cover.
So, I mean, this book looks at male sexuality.
Do you know which states it will be banned in?
Uh...
I'd rather not say so I don't have to give them any ideas.
Let's hope that. Let's hope nobody.
Let's hope nobody.
But I'm sure it's gonna happen somewhere.
I was talking to you a little bit backstage.
Uh, when I read your book,
it brought back a lot of feelings.
Yeah.
It talks about somebody's first sexual encounter.
Sure.
And don't worry, I'm not gonna go into mine
at all on television.
I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Nobody wants that. Especially me. Especially you. Yes. Okay. Sure. And don't worry, I'm not going to go into mine at all on television.
I appreciate it.
Nobody wants that.
Especially me.
Especially you.
Yes.
Okay.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I mean, you could be a little kinder on that one there, Jason.
But I think we said right off the bat, it puts you there.
It puts you at a mindset there.
And it is something that I don't find myself revisiting or literature
paying much attention to.
Was that part of the interest of tackling something like this?
Yeah, much like you, I haven't seen it either.
And there's a question, right?
That begs the question, why not?
Why don't we get to see young men navigating
the most vulnerable moments of their lives?
Why don't we get to see them insecure and nervous
and trying to be, trying to activate the tender bits,
right, trying to be okay with their bodies.
These are all very normal things that you and me
and many young men have gone through,
but we never get to see it in any form of media,
let alone in literature.
It's interesting, I think, when we talk to...
let alone in literature. It's interesting, I mean, I would have killed for pornography in my pockets.
I would have killed for it. I couldn't find it.
I wasn't cool enough to know anybody who had it.
Anyway, I didn't see pornography until I was 37.
Just could never figure it out.
But now, being a 13-year-old, that's a diff...
You're learning about sex in totally different ways.
When you think about something like that,
and you deal with that somewhat in this book, too,
that your main character is 17 and a certain
assumptions about the ways in which a first time goes how do you how do you
balance telling an authentic story there with what you want to articulate to a
young audience reading it yeah I mean it's tricky right I'm always very
careful about coming into a story trying to teach any lessons yeah because I
think young people can smell that a mile away.
My job is just to bear witness to the realities of their lives.
And sometimes that reality makes me uncomfortable.
But it's something that we still have to grapple with, like pornography.
And so for me, instead of me just inserting pornography
into the story, it's also about the people around him
and how they sort of contextualize it for him, right?
When I was a kid and I started to have the sex talk
with my mother, my mother was very aware
that I had pornography.
And my mother would say,
hey, just so you know, I know you have those tapes.
And I'm like, oh, no, please.
And she's like, no, no, no, I know they're there.
And so what I want you to know,
and so what I want you to know is that
it's just like any other movie, those are just actors.
And those, and the girls that you know are not those women,
and you are not those men.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
And she's like, you know what I mean.
Well, that's as you describe it in the book.
That's essentially taken from your experience
with your mother, right?
That almost sounds like a threat, too,
like how we talk to countries with nuclear weapons.
Like, I understand you have them,
but I know more on my side as well.
And the truth is, the consequences,
though different from a macro level,
could be just as devastating on a micro level.
If we don't have these conversations, you could very well blow up your life on a macro level could be just as devastating on a micro level.
If you don't, if we don't have these conversations,
you could very well blow up your life
and the life of the person that you claim to care about.
This person, right, it's just that simple.
We have to pay attention, we have to communicate,
we have to be kind, we have to be gentle
and tender and compassionate.
We have to acknowledge the person across from us
is not a piece of furniture, but is a human being.
Mm-hmm.
Whoo!
Yeah!
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Don't go nuclear your first time, is what you're saying.
You can't anyway.
You can't anyway. No.
You can prematurely explode.
That is something that can't happen.
Did you go to literature?
Like, you know, my understanding is, I mean, that is something that can happen. Did you go to literature?
Like, you know, my understanding is you were not a big novel reader
when you were youth.
Like, what hold do you think you're feeling right there?
Did you use literature in a way that was reflective
of the experience you were having?
Like, what are you trying to do within your writing
to speak to this younger generation?
I mean, I think if I'd have had this book as a kid,
I would have read it.
Yeah.
Right, but this isn't the literature
that was given to me when I was young.
I mean, you know, we're probably close to the same age.
I mean, back then, you're being, I mean, look,
we're coming up on the 100th anniversary
of the great Gatsby.
And even though I have a lot of respect for F. Scott Fitzgerald,
as a kid growing up where I was growing up,
at a time that I was growing up, that
seemed like a faraway land.
The fancy parties and bow ties and black suits and all that.
It's not my reality. I was, you know, jeans and Jordans.
Right? And so I think with a book like this,
we're able to say, like, your life as it exists today
is a life that matters enough to be written about.
Right? Because if you don't see it that way,
you don't know it. You don't know it.
I feel like that's a lesson I learned too late in life,
in many ways, that, like, literature and art,
you have to use it. You have to use it.
You don't just engage with it. You have to use it.
And you can use it to be reflective of your life
or to make your life better or to gain perspective.
I'm curious, seeing yourself reflected at an early age is important.
Now that you've grown older, do you seek out literature?
What do you read now?
Are you looking for things that are reflective of your life or are you looking for experiences
that are outside of it?
It's different.
It's different.
And I work in this field too, so it's a little different in general.
I mean, for me right now, I'm always looking for... I look at literature these days like I look at abstract art.
I want to stand in front of it and see if it makes me feel something,
whether I understand it or not.
And so a lot of the times I'm reading experimental works
or things that I deem to be experimental,
like Ali Smith's novels,
or I've just been going over all these Mary Oliver poems
to see if there's something there that resonates with me,
something that bonds itself to my psyche,
to my subconscious, something that I can walk around with
and live with, language that can live in the body
so that it might change the way I move through the world.
That might not always be, you know, a story about me.
That might be a story about someone living across the world
going through a very difficult time.
But I can still sit with that and live with that.
And because I can ingest it,
I can use it to make myself a better person.
I love that. I love that.
You've...
You're...
You're not only right, you also teach,
and you've also spent a decent amount of time
going to schools, interacting with the youth.
As somebody who perhaps understands them
or has a view into their experiences
more than the average adult, do you have faith?
Are they gonna pull this one out?
Are they gonna help this generation
who's f***ing everything up?
Yeah.
Yes.
You know, I know that we...
Look, the Atlantic, there's an article that came out about how like college
kids can't read books and that, there's all this stuff, we get all these tidbits about
all the things they're not doing right.
But as someone who's around them all the time, I think they have the biggest hearts that
we've seen in human history.
I think they care about things very differently.
I don't always know that they have the vocabulary just yet,
but the vocabulary that they do have has already shifted
the way we think about the world in which we live.
We can look at sex and gender
and see how the young people have shifted
the way that we talk about things
in a way that we honor the identities of our fellow men
and women and non-binary people, right?
And so, like, that's coming from the youth, right?
When we think about gun violence, right?
That movement is being led by the youth.
When we think about the Women's March some years back,
a lot of people there were very young, right,
fighting this particular fight.
And so I think that while we criticize them
and while we worry, we have to remember
that the people we're worrying about are just teenagers.
And if we would give them a moment to grow up,
give them time to mature, do our jobs, right,
by creating a pathway in which they can walk
instead of just judging them, right?
Let's say, hey, look, I'll point the light this way.
I may not drive the boat for you
because I believe you can drive it yourself,
but I'll definitely show you the way to go.
And if we do that, I think we'll all be okay. I may not drive the boat for you because I believe you can drive it yourself, but I'll definitely show you the way to go.
And if we do that, I think we'll all be okay.
I love that. I love that.
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