The Daily Show: Ears Edition - ICE Killing in Minnesota Ignites Protests as Trump and Kristi Noem Double Down | Lucy Liu

Episode Date: January 9, 2026

Minneapolis tells ICE to “get the f**k out” after an agent fatally shot a woman, Kristi Noem smears the victim as a terrorist while MAGA decides she deserved it, and Ronny Chieng questions ICE’s PR push to recruit highly aggressive, unqualified agents and unleash them on American cities. Americans are known for spoiling their living pets, but what about the ones who’ve passed? Michael Kosta explores the rising popularity of pet psychics, like Danielle MacKinnon, who claims to have the intuitive ability to communicate with all animals, past and present. Kosta learns about her process, meets her very real clients, and attempts to glean some insight into his relationship with his own dog, Walter. Actor and producer Lucy Liu sits down with Ronny Chieng to discuss her new film, “Rosemead,” which is based on a true story about a terminally ill mother and her son. They talk about Liu’s connection to the film and how its themes of mental health and grief affected her, why every role feels like a way of documenting her life, the time she directed Ronny onscreen, and how taking risks has led to the biggest rewards in her career. Plus, Simu Liu makes a cameo! Refresh your winter wardrobe with Quince—visit https://quince.com/DAILYSHOW for free shipping and 365-day returns. Let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster—join at https://RocketMoney.com/DAILYSHOW with promo code DAILYSHOW. Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at https://meetfabric.com/daily Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is The Daily Show with your host, Ronnie. I'm Ryan Chang. We've got so much to talk about tonight because everything in America is super cool right now. We are very lucky to live in a country where we enjoy a great relationship with law enforcement agencies. President Trump is doing everything he can to keep us safe. Oh, it looks like the incredibly handsome mayor of Minneapolis

has something to say. To ICE, get the fuck out of Minneapolis. Okay, look, to be fair, f***ed ice is what people in Minneapolis say most winters anyway. But this time, he's actually referring to the immigration cops. I assume at this point you have all seen the horrible video or you've been working really hard not to see it. So don't worry, I'm not going to show it to you.

But basically, ICE agents surrounded this woman's... and ended up shooting her when she tried to drive away from them. That certainly would have made me way too scared to confront these guys, but the people in Minnesota are built different. Demonstrators taking to the streets after the shooting. Some confronting ICE agents throwing snowballs. That's right, throwing snowballs. First, we fight the oppressive police state, and then hot cocoa.

Now look, people have been watching the video over and over, breaking it down frame by frame until they end up with resting Cash Patel face. And it's already become just one more political road shock test in America. Some people see a peaceful protester getting murdered and other people are fascists. But regardless of where you stand on that, nobody was seeing what Kristy Knoem saw. What happened was our ICE officers were out in an enforcement action. They got stuck in the snow because of the adverse weather that is in Minneapolis.

They were attempting to push out their vehicle and a woman attacked them. Oh, what are you talking about? Because maybe you didn't see the video clearly because your stupid hat is blocking your vision. But thank you for weighing in. And sorry to interrupt your girls' weekend in Nashville. I just don't see how you could see an attack in that video. Well, I mean, wait, is this why Chrissy Nome shot her puppy?

I mean, did she think it was trying to ram into her of a car? I don't know. Maybe that's all she sees. cars ramming in her. This was barely two hours after the shooting, and without any investigation, Noam had already decided that the woman deserved it. But later that day, once more facts came out,

she ignored those two and doubled down. This domestic act of terrorism to use your vehicle to try to kill law enforcement officers is going to stop. People are being trained and told how to use their vehicles to impede law enforcement operations and then to run over anybody who gets in their way. Being trained.

I mean, I am outraged that you would inflame the situation with divisive and charged accusations. But that is a cool costume change, okay? I love how she went from cowboy to undercover cop at a high school party. I mean, I hope the next hat is going to be one of those roster hats. And she can be like, yeah. And she can be like, hey, man, it's domestic terrorism.

Look, this country does not need a divisive figure like Christine Nome right now. It needs a leader with the maturity and unifying rhetoric to bring us all together. Shut up, shut up! Shut the fuck up! President Trump, I call on you to heal this nation! This is what President Trump just posted. The woman driving the car was very disorderly obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE officer who seems to have shot her in self-exed.

defense. Based on the clip, hard to believe he is alive, but is now recovering in the hospital. Yeah, I don't... Okay, I'm starting to sense of bias in the audience here, but, you know, what do you mean? It's hard to believe he's alive. The guy walked away. Like, was Christine Nome's hat so big? It was blocking your vision, too, President Trump? I mean, even if you think the video is ambiguous, it's not that ambiguous.

This is like one person saying the dress is blue and black, and the other person saying it's dishwasher, okay? It's not. There's a basic shape to what happened. But here's the problem. Everyone is arguing about what happened in the seconds leading up to the shooting. But what we really need to be looking at is what happened in the months leading up to the shooting. Because something like this was almost inevitable when ICE, when you have ICE promoting itself like this. A massive PR push is underway to recruit new ICE agents, including ads targeted at Young America,

It's posted a meme referencing the video game Halo to its official X account with the slogan, quote, destroy the flood. Okay, look, I'm just saying you're not going to get responsible professionals when you tell them the job is a freaking awesome video game, okay? You're going to get a bunch of guys who own this chair. And it's not just a lot. how they're promoting their mission. It's also how, it's also

the guys they're trying to recruit. The effort will target gun rights supporters, military enthusiasts, people who have attended UFC fights or listened to patriotic podcasts. It's right. It's military enthusiasts, patriotic podcast listeners, and UFC fans.

Basically, anyone you pray your sister would finally break up with. And if you're watching, look, I like to call balls and strikes, okay? So if you're watching this and you're saying, hey, Ronnie, you're being unfair. I'm a military enthusiast, patriarchated podcast listener, and a UFC fan, and I'm highly professional. Well, hey, I guess they weren't going after you.

Some of the recruits failed drug testing, have disqualifying criminal backgrounds, or don't meet the physical or academic requirements to serve. Additionally, nearly half of recruits failed the written exam, even with access to notes and textbooks. How the fuck? Do you fail an open book test? The answers are here. You just put them here. This is what happens when you don't have immigrants to cheat off of, okay? I guess it's hard to take a written test

when you're wearing Oakley's indoors. So now we have a massive new police force of poorly trained recruits hopped up on Rick Ross music unleashed into American cities and suburbs. And for the past two months, federal agents have been terrorizing people in their own neighborhoods. Over the past year, Americans have witnessed masked ICE agents, detained mothers in front of their children.

People shot by federal agents and more than 170 U.S. citizens held inside detention centers. A 79-year-old business owner says he was body slammed and pinned to the ground despite being a U.S. citizen. Carlos Jimenez, a U.S. citizen tried to drive around the officers when one shot him in the back of his shoulder. Masked agents shot pepper balls at a pastor. A woman who was handcuffed was suddenly being dragged by one arm. Federal agents drag away a blind protester. We kept yelling she's pregnant. She's pregnant. Okay, look.

I know, I know. I voted wrong. Okay, I'm sorry. Look, it's so evil that the only level above this is cartoonishly evil. A Halloween parade for children canceled after agents deployed would appear to be tear game. The fuck? It's a Halloween parade. Those are just kids. They want actual Korean demon hunters.

And look, if you're thinking they don't need to enforce the law this violently, you're correct. They don't need to be this violent. The violence and showing the violence is the point. This is why just breaking down these videos frame by frame doesn't tell the whole story of what happened here. Okay, people keep saying this ICE agent feared for his safety. Maybe so. But we also have to acknowledge that this woman probably feared for her safety too and for good reason. And telling someone to just comply with law enforcement isn't helpful when ICE has spent the past year acting less like law enforcement and more like a lawless militia.

So unfortunately, we can keep expecting this to happen. Not because ICE is going to dangerous situations, but because they keep going into safe situations and then making them more dangerous than they need to be. At the very least, if ICE is going to keep recruiting people with no business being in law enforcement, maybe we can counter that with an ad that unrecruits them. Are you the type of guy who wants to be an ICE agent because it looks like playing Halo? Then here's an even better idea. Just stay home and play Halo. If living out your video game fantasy makes you want to join ICE, then we'd rather you didn't.

So call 1-800 No Ice and we'll send you a PlayStation 5 in a dozen Xboxes. so you can work out all that aggression safely in your stepdad's basement. Or maybe you like how ICE makes law enforcement look like a rap video. So we'll sign you up for YouTube preview. So you can just keep watching rap videos in your house, away from everyone else. Joining ice means going outside, and outside is cold. But inside is warm and has Wi-Fi so you can look at all those dang ice memes.

Whatever void in your life is making you respond to those ice ads, we'll fill it. It's better for everyone. We'll also throw in a porn hub subscription. You didn't ask for it, but we just assume. So stay at home because we want you to not join ICE. Brought to you by Americans who just want to go outside without getting shot. A new year, colder days.

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which is why I brought my best bud Walter here on the coast of Maine to check out a new pet industry that appears to be booming. Do you like the beach? Do you like your tummy what? Daniel McKinnon is a provider of a new in-demand pet service with tens of thousands of followers on social media. It's helping all of those people who have all of these animals in their lives

be the best people they can be for their animals. So you do like trainings or how does that work? What is it? I am an animal communicator. Okay. Otherwise known as a pet psychic. Psychic? Mm-hmm.

So you must know what my next question is gonna be. Yes. Which is? Are you crazy? Where's the bathroom? Even though Danielle's Powers had failed my first test, I was curious to find out more about her unique pet service. In one moment.

How does it work? Okay, this is how it works. I hear it in my head. I hear words in my head. I see pictures in my head. I feel feelings from the animals. I smell psychically. What do you smell?

Sometimes I'm smelling dog poop. Or the barn or whatever the animal wants me to smell. Why would an animal want you to smell poop? A lot of the time, the animal will give whatever information they can, they can to me to help their human go, oh yeah, that's my pet. So that means if someone's not like believing me as a human or trusting me, should I make them smell my poop? No.

In communicating physically with living animals is just the base level service that Danielle offers. One of the ways that I communicate with pets is usually when they're passed over. Wow. You talk to dead animals. Yeah. And they talk back. Dead.

Dead. Okay. What does someone want to hear from a dog that's crossed over? They usually want closure. Closure. They feel grief and they feel guilt and they wish they'd spent more time with their pet and they want to be able to say, I'm sorry. As a kid, we bought a goldfish and then it didn't make it and we flushed it. Could you access that fish from 40 years, 25 years ago when I was a kid?

Yes. You can actually connect with any animal at any time. that has crossed over. Could I talk to the horse that General Grant was on when he fought in the Civil War? Technically, yes. Yeah. I guess it would be interesting to find out

who a horse thinks won the Civil War. But like any innovative new business, Daniel has to face her fair share of criticism. How do you know that it's the animal and not just your own crazy head? I would say 99% of the time there's a party of me that's going, you're crazy, this is crazy.

But then I'm getting, yes, that's totally my cat. I can't believe this is working. And Danielle does have one other reason to believe in her psychic powers. Other people believe it. They pay me to do it. What is a psychic reading cost? Mine are around $500. Do you charge before the reading or after the reading?

Before the reading. This is a good business. And is there, like, how many people? Like two people, three people? Thousands of people. Two of those thousands are Matt and. Lauren their clients of Danielle's who are hoping to communicate one last time with their deceased golden retriever Camden so I'm gonna have you show me the picture in a

moment things that I want you get payment yet from the yes okay okay it's way easy of course yeah okay okay so I'm just gonna take a moment to connect with Camden hold on the first thing that comes through is that he has been watching you from the other side. And he shows me you feeling a lot of stress and pressure. And that three weeks ago, you kind of put a new bit of a plan in place. He knows the plan.

He's giving you the confirmation that this is the way to go. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes. Okay. Three weeks ago, you made a new plan? And Camden is aware of this plan. I mean, you're saying that a dog who's dead is aware of a current plan

that they came up with three weeks ago. That, I should say, seems to be around like business. It is. Okay. Okay. It makes sense to me that Camden has become a business savvy spirit dog, but did Matt and Lauren have any doubts?

People that are critical of pet psychics or psychics in general would say, this is bat-shick crazy. No one is able to access the mind and the emotional feeling of a dead dog. What the f*** are you doing with your mind? I mean, everyone's entitled to their own beliefs and opinions. I personally believe that there are souls and that some of the thing. and someday hopefully we'll get connected with them again. Are you guys just bored?

No. So these clients were clearly benefiting from her services, but could Danielle convert me into a customer by entering into the head of my best friend, Walter? All right, here's him on the dock. He? He? Walter. Walter. Living.

Dog. Dog. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I could have told you that stuff. So I'm just going to go to Walter in my house. Yeah. Okay, so hold on one sec.

So when I ask him about his relationship with you, and he does give me sadness, you're spending a lot of time doing other stuff. You're not very present when you are home. Wow. And then I would, this is this where I would pay you? Yes. Can you tell Walter that a simple thank you would go a long way? I feed him every day.

I go take him to the vet. I spend $770 a year on him. Well, he said he loves you and he just wants more time from you. Yeah, okay. Even though Danielle was definitely wrong about reading Walter's thoughts about his beloved owner, it did seem that her pet service brings owners and their pets closer together. And maybe that's the only thing that matters. Can you tell him that his breath stinks?

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No! Get the fuck of Lucy's here! We want to see Lucy. Get the fuck out of you. Get the fuck out. God damn. Desperate actors. All right, let's try that again.

Please welcome, my good friend, the one and only. Lucy Liu! Wow, I didn't realize I was so easily replaced. No. Nobody asked him. I don't know where he came from. I think the Lou connection, maybe. Thanks for coming on the show.

It's so good to see. This is my first time. Yeah, first time. first time on the show? First time? It's your first time on the show, and it's your first time starring in a movie, which is weird because I feel like

you've been starring in every movie since the 90s. I guess I was not really starring. I was like number 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, keep going. Yeah, you say that, but I feel like you were the star of Kill Bill. Yeah, because that's what your publicist has told me. You know, this is...

She gets paid to this. tell you that stuff. Yeah, but you've been around kicking ass for so long. I've been around for a while, and this is a big deal. But you truly feel this is the first time you've starred in something? I mean, I never thought about it until they broke it down like that. I feel like I have always been leading because it feels like everything is moving forward. So I always think that way.

But when they put it in the words like that, it really kind of stood out to me. And I feel like if that's the case, then this is my greatest pride to have been in this movie, Rosemede. Right. Because you made, yeah. I mean, I know that technically might be true. I don't think anyone listening to that actually believes that because I feel like you stole every scene in every single movie. But let's just go with it.

But this has been a real kind of passion project. You're not just like a hired gun on this. You were like pushing this through, really. You were like... I came to you with this project so long ago, too. Ronnie was almost in the movie, guys. I know, but I just, I know. I just felt like I couldn't play an Asian mother.

I just, I'm sorry. I just don't have to range. I just said, grow your hair out. It's a big deal. Yeah, I'm just going to do it. It was, it's been a long journey, like eight years. Eight years. So it's a, you know, it's a deep movie,

and I think it's not necessarily what people are used to seeing me in. So maybe that was the difficulty, but I think that what we have and what we've created is something really special and something that we haven't had in our filmography. Sure. So what is it about? Well, it's about, well, it's a love story, really, between her mother and her son, and she has a terminal illness, and her son is also stricken with the loss of her husband and his father. Right. So a comedy. It's like a comedy. It's a romantic comedy, and everyone should go see it on Valentine's Day.

But really, I think there's, it's based on a true story. So I think there's something there that we can mine from it. It's not just about the Asian community. It's about, it's about. It's about every family. It's about our community in general and how we can support each other. Yeah, I don't know how much to talk about it without giving spoilers. So I'll follow your lead on this because I read the script too because I was supposed to be in it. Yeah. I don't want to, I just, you know, I didn't quite make it. I'm just number eight on movies where if you have no budget and you film in the tri-state area, I'm... You're the guy. I'm the guy. I'm the guy. I'm the guy. I'm very happy to be that guy, by the way.

number eight on the list. Well, I think this movie is something that is dedicated to this family that's no longer here, and it is something that we want to honor them and honor their name. And also remember that when you talk to somebody and you communicate and you connect with people, it can save lives.

Yeah. It's about a bunch of woke hoodoo-go-go-go-do-doers over here. It's trying to save the world. But I mean, the movie is about people who, someone who's suffering through mental health illness and it's based on a true story. And the story is quite intense. Again, I don't want to give away what happens in it

because I'm trying to follow your lead here. If I was going to spoil it, I'm going to let you spoil it. But it's an intense story. And it's based on a true story, as you said. So how did this even come to your attention? Well, this story, the real story happened in 2015, which is not that long ago. It was just a little over 10 years ago.

And then Frank Schong wrote an article. And then that article was then purchased and then made into a, basically a movie, a script. A script was written. And so I came on board, and then we tried to find financing for it. It's a very small movie. It's probably the budget of, like, when you're mugs, when you guys make mugs. No, no.

Yeah. If you guys get any free mugs, then put it towards an independent movie. So it's a very small way. You're mistaking us for The Tonight Show. This is after, after. This is basic cable. Oh, my God. We are dying over here.

Okay, that's why I've never seen the show. Yeah, exactly. This is what I'm dying and also the president hates us. I watch the show all the time. Yeah, but we, the, it's an indie project that you really shepherded through. Yes, and we found 16 different investors. I mean, you guys could have been one of them. And they were part of the community and they realized that the impact of this movie

was so much more important than possibly getting their money back. Oh, okay. Yeah. He's like, what? That's very honest. Capitalism is not always what the impact. what the impact is. You know, if I'd

send one of these mugs to the 16 investors, maybe they'll feel like they actually, you know, got something back. Really? This shit is worthless. I'll send mugs to them if it helps you out.

I'll sign these mugs and go, you guys got scammed by Lucy Loo. I think if you sign them, maybe. I'll be like, congrats on getting scammed by Lucy Lou. If you sign it, it might lose value. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. She's just... Just kidding. I'll get C-Me. Why are you shit? I'm sitting on me. I love you. I'm trying to promote your movie.

The Frizes. The Thrasians, all three of us were signed this mug. Sure, I'll sign it if it helps raise money for this movie. You're so kind. But if the movie had no money, how the fuck did they afford you? You know what, girl, I was working craft services. I was driving. I was a teamster.

I did all the things. There was no budget. I mean, it's a legit question because you're kind of used to, how should I put this, being fond over as an A-lister most of your life. in your big movies. So this movie, this movie is like, like you said, it's kind of, it's very small, it's very contained, almost like black box theater.

I assume you didn't have five assistants on this. You probably had. No, I think I was the assistant. Yeah, you would. I was like, can I get you a coffee? Right. So what, I mean, does that, because you're so, you're so, you're so. I think it's so hands-on that we really worked as a team, as a family,

to make this happen and really bring the story to life. And to be honest with you, the fact that it's, you know, coming out this weekend in theaters is a miracle. Sure. So I feel grateful that you are actually, you brought me onto the show to talk about it. No, are you kidding? So I didn't even, I didn't know what you're promoting.

I don't know how. They said, they had me at Lucy Lou. I was like, oh, whatever. Come on and talk about, yeah. Yeah, I'm selling macaroni and cheese, guys. Also, people don't know. You directed me in a television episode one. So I know your directing style.

It is fierce. Is it? Get on your mark and bark? No, it was. You had great bedside manner. You were very, like, you know, you were very... Organized? No, you were very work-focused on the set.

No? Not messing around. It's the TV show was... We're not supposed to promote other shit, but whatever. It was an episode of American-born Chinese. I don't know if you even remember this. Yeah, of course. Do you even care about this?

That you directed me in this thing? How are we reverting this back to you? I got to say, you are a great director because I look fucking awesome in that show. You did a great job. That's my main thing, lighting. That's all I care about. You know what?

To me, I think that I feel responsible for the time of the crew and the cast, and I want everyone to feel good and have a joyous experience, even though it's intense. Why? Because that's your experience. That's going to be your photo album for your life. That moment and time is going to be your life story. Oh, wow.

That's what I feel, because, I mean, I look at my life, like Charlie's Angels Kill Bill, you know, Rose Me, Why Women Kill? Even like a cameo in Devil Wears Prada. All of these things are not just like work to me. These are like parts of my life that I can remember. And this is my photo album.

Right. And so is that, do you think that's common in the industry? Or is that just that people? I don't know. I don't ask people about that. When I sit in your desk and I'll ask the questions. What do you mean? When I ask them, I'll find out.

No, not how they feel, but do you feel that they feel that way? Do you feel that other people in show business have that same? I'm still asking the same question. Oh, I see. He's checking my IQ, guys. You don't want to talk about, you don't want to shit talk other people. I get it. I would do well in a test if it was an open book test.

Okay, okay. I would pass. Okay, we get it. You're awesome. I think people do feel that way, but sometimes you don't see it until later. And I don't want to, I don't want people to wait until later. I want them to feel the presence of what's happening to them now. and appreciate because there's so many things

that are going by so quickly. Yeah. And obviously, not just things, but our rights are being taken away. So let's not, let's not, like, forget that the things took a long time to get. Even our rights is Asians to vote. Oh, okay.

He's going to get a slap late. Don't worry, guys. I'll punish him. No, I know. You're saying, hey, you don't, you need to tell the immigrants who came here to be grateful. We are great. I'm grateful.

If I wasn't grateful, I would be here. No, you're right. I love you so much. I mean, you know, I'm just giving you a little, I'm ribbing you a little. No, no, no. But what is the, you've been in the, you've been in show business for so long now. Yeah, over 30 years. Over 30 years.

You've had this, you know, your longevity and you have the perspective to actually talk about this. Like, we have this bias that everything now is kind of worse than it used to be in terms of movie making. And the world, quite frankly, but that's the same movie making. Is that, you've seen it. You've seen the whole thing. Is that actually true? Or is that just rose tinted glasses? I think that a lot of times we, people are nostalgic.

You know, and you think, oh, back then it was so much easier when we didn't have phones, you know, we didn't have, and then it was like, we didn't have fax machines. We didn't have all these things. And I think that life is changing because technology is very fast. And so it's faster than it used to be. And that's something that we need to recognize. but it also can be something that you can put down and you can slow down yourself.

So, yes, it is hard, but it could be harder and it's going to get harder. So we can learn the hard way or we can learn the harder way. So it's kind of a way to understand and to have gratitude for where you are. And this movie took a long time to make and it took a lot of people putting themselves in there and putting themselves out there to make it.

But I don't want to focus on the difficulty I want to focus on where we are now and celebrate, because that time is going to disappear very quickly. Yes. Yeah, have... Living the present, be grateful. No, no. It's not even that simple.

It's Buddhism. It's Buddhism. It's not even that simple. It's just that things, you know, can go quickly. And, you know, it's not even about, like, the photo album of life, because it doesn't even have to be that kind of, of, you know, I guess, hippie-dippy.

Sure. It's more that, you know, like, there are so many miracles that we forget. Because as you get older in your life, like, when you're not a child, because everything is like you stop and you're like stomping the ice to see what's underneath the ice when you're a kid. Which ice? Which one? It's been a really intense week. I know, you're right.

I think you can stomp both ice. Okay, okay. Yeah, you can stop that ice and you can stop the black ice. Just kill two birds with one stone. But like, it's like stopping and watching when the grasses got, you know, a layer of snow on it. And we don't have time to do that. We have to get somewhere. And sometimes when you watch a child or when you watch a puppy, like it's just fresh.

And I think that moment is enough to kind of like fuel you for a little bit longer. It doesn't mean that you're going to forget and you're going to, you know, I don't know, just think. that your life is going to be so difficult, but sometimes we really need a refresher. We get it. You found Buddha, okay? It's great. It's fine. We do need a refresher.

A lot of people worked on this, as you said. You had to, did you feel like you had to, it's very intense. Again, I'm sorry we haven't told you much about it, but we don't explore what the story is. We want you to go and see it. We want to go see it. But it's fair to say, it's a very intense,

every scene is very intense. It's very emotional. For you as an actress, I felt like, Like, you had to stay in this zone for like a month of just being in this very dramatic, emotionally intense character in conditions where you had less than three personal assistants. Right. So was that difficult? Or are you, at this point, you're just like, this stuff is... No, it was really difficult.

And it stayed with me, you know, because it is based on a real life story. And this woman is no longer with us. And I think that I have learned a lot from a lot of the projects that I've worked on, and I've taken all these wonderful experiences with me. But this one has been so deep, not just because of what happened in the story, but really because the language that I went back to, which was my childhood language. And it really connected me in a different way to where I am now, spatially in the world. And, you know, it's not even about, you know, Buddhism or faith, because we didn't grow up with any faith.

whatsoever, which in some ways I think saved me because I can be open to all faiths, you know, like I don't judge anyone for what they do or how they do. I do. Yeah, that's why I'm bringing it up to make sure. But there's a way in which this kind of changed the way that I see my own life, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like you hold your, you know, the loved ones much closer. Sure.

So you, I guess, I understand, I, because I know the stories about, I understand why I understand why you talking so much about loved ones holding closer, but it's because it's one of the major themes in the movie. Really? The movie is about love and it's about loss and it's about grieving. And I think that sometimes, you know, grief is not linear. Like you think, oh, I'm really sad, you know, something happened that really, you know, I lost somebody or I lost a pet or whatever it is. But and then, you know, you think time heals it, but it doesn't necessarily heal it. It just changes. And then sometimes you'll feel sad again and you don't remember why. I think there's a lot of healing about this movie to me

It has brought me and I think that's something that I don't know that I could have learned if I had gone on a retreat Somewhere, you know? So it's a very different experience I can see that from knowing watching a movie and I can see how you could get that out I mean you saw me before the movie and you saw me after so what is your you know? What is your conclusion? I mean I don't think you're more mentally ill after doing the movie So you do I guess you got mentally helped you I'm probably just the same status to me is status quo. But I'm sure inside you feel a certain way.

And like you said, a lot of people work very hard on it. You put a lot, you risked a lot personally, professionally, and financially on this movie. You know what? My job is to risk. If I don't risk, then I don't, there's no reward. And the reward is not like, how did it do at the box office? The reward is like, who did I meet? What are the experiences that I had?

And that's what I take away with me. Because I can't control whether the movie does well or not, you know, or any movie. Plus, you already have unlimited money. So it's great. But I guess the point of all this is a lot of people work very hard on this. And so go watch it in theaters. Go support the arts. Stop sitting on the toilet and watching movies on your phone or taking a shit.

Go out there and watch a goddamn movie and be with other people. And Lucy, you're the best, your legend. Thanks for coming on the show. I've been watching you since I was a kid. It's very cool. I'm so grateful. It's great. The moment of Zen.

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