The Daily Show: Ears Edition - ICYMI - Abby Wambach Fights for Gender Equality

Episode Date: June 10, 2019

Women's World Cup champion and "Wolfpack" author Abby Wambach talks with Trevor about income disparity on and off the field and microaggressions that women face. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I am here to tell you about my new podcast. the weekly weekly. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, the, the, thoe, thoe, thoe, thoe, thoe, thoe, thoe, thoe, thoe, thoe, tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the. the. the, the, the. the the the the. the. the the. the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the the way to hire. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, it's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting, you'll be saying to yourself, TGID, thank God it's Thursday. We're going to be talking about. All the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me. The election. Economics, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking

about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Please welcome, Abby Womba. All for you. All for you. Thank you. Thank you.

A standing ovation. You have a standing ovation. You have an amazing audience. Are you kidding? Yeah. Yes, they will be receiving that money I promised them them. Yes, they will have an amazing audience. You pay them well. Are you kidding? Yeah. Yes, they will be receiving that money, I promise them. Welcome to the show. Thank you.

And congratulations on the book. Let's talk about the book, because it really speaks about everything that you've done in your life and everything that we deal with. Many people know you as a really successful soccer player who in many ways led the US women's soccer team to some of its greatest victories. You know your header in the World Cup against Brazil is one of the most famous ones. Amazing. But the conversations in this book speak about many of the conversations that people are still having today about women's soccer in the US and that is why is the women's team not getting paid what they are owed.... their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to. to. to do. to do. to do. their to do. their their to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to bea. to bea. toe. to tooes. tooes. to to to to to to to to toe. to do. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. their their to. We. their their to. We. their. We. Wea. to. We. to. We. to. We. We. We'llthat is why is the women's team not getting paid what they are owed? In other words, equal pay for the

work that they're doing. It's insane. You know I really feel like this is a true discrimination lawsuit that they've just filed against US soccer and I'm proud to be supporting them but here's a thing the big argument right that I hear is that the men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men men the men the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is the th is the's the's the's the's the's the's to to be to the. the's to to to to to to to to the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. to. to. to. teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. te. te. te. te. here's the thing, the big argument that I hear is that the men's team brings in more money. So of course, that's why they should deserve to make more money, but that's just not true. In 2015, the women's team brought in $6.6 million, and the men's team only brought in two. So that debate is now no longer can don't want to talk about. And it's the amount of money that it takes to market and brand something.

Right. So that the supply and demand debate can actually make sense, right? Yeah, well, this is something that we spoke about. Like, we did it on the show. And I remember handling the conflict both in the show and in my head. I was like, okay, well, well, well, well, well, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thus, th, thus, thus, th, th, th. th. th. th. that, the, that, tho, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. okay, well, let's go with all sides of the argument. On one side, you go, women's soccer, they're winning, they should get more money, and some of the say, yeah, but they, you know, they don't earn as much money, but if you look at all the hurdles that women's soccer has to get over in America, first of all, the games, the games are on, their th....... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. th. th. their. thrown. thrown. thrown. tooes. tooes. tooes. too. too. too. too. their. too. too. too. too. too. too. the h. the ha. the ha. the ha. the ha. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. the h. their. their. the the the the the th. th. thr. thr. too. too. too. too. toe. too. toe. too. too. toe. too. too. the the. the the. soccer in the country, it was a loss generator. And that money hasn't been pumped into women's soccer.

And as a soccer player who was winning the games, did you ever at a point on the field just be like, no, I'm not gonna let the ball hit my skull? No. Do you ever think that? Like what motivated you if you, I hit the ball against my head way too many times. Right. And that's a serious and total side issue.

But I think that, yeah, I think that the women are like, wait, hold on, this doesn't make sense, right? We are putting ourselves in the the times. We're putting our bodies on our bodies on our bodies on our bodies on on on the bodies on the bodies on the bodies on the bodies on the bodies on the bodies on the bodies on the bodies on their bodies on their bodies on their bodies on the men in any way. This is a showcase how much I just truly believe in the women because aside from all of the argument that we can make for these women earning the same as the men, we haven't even once talked about them actually winning championships. Right? And that's an important part of this debate as well. Like the women's national team is one of the

most successful team sports in the world and we're still still still still still still still to get equal pay and and that it just feels so backwards and it's like wow the 99 World Cup team just had their 20th anniversary alumni last weekend and you know the sport has grown and we've moved a far away from where we started but we also started below the poverty line. You know people were playing for free. If you if you look at the book it's based on a commencement speech that you gave that really went viral you know because it connected with so many people and one of the one of the quotes in the book reminds me of

what you said in that speech and that was when you were looking at yourself on a stage at the SPs it was yourself and it was Kobe Bryant and it was Peyton Manning and you were all on the stage being honored as legends in your fields and you walked off that stage and you had a very specific thought and that thought was... Wow all three of us are walking into very.. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the. I thi. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. th. And th. And th.. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thin. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, th to. And, th thin. And, th th th th th th th th th th th thought, and that thought was... Wow, all three of us are walking into very different retirements. On stage, I was feeling this immense amount of gratitude, like, wow, we women had finally made it, you know? And what I realized when I walked off stage is that's like basically the emotion that

women are granted to feel when they are given an award, this idea of just being grateful. So for me, writing this book, and the, and the, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I, I, their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. th. thi, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I'm, and, and, I'm, and, and, and, thin, th.a, th.a, th.a, th.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. th th th th this book and trying to unpack some of these moments in my life that taught me things, I mean, that night is when I dedicated, and I promised myself that I would dedicate myself for the rest of my life to fighting for equality, whether it be equal pay, in my sport and for my team, but also for every women and every industry. Because this is a fight that is necessary, that is a fight that is a fight that is a and it's not necessary just because women deserve it. It's necessary for all people everywhere, right? Because our world feels like, I mean you talk about all the things that seem to be on fire, that seem to be going wrong. I believe that women having more access to the tables where decisions are made that will help this world better, to be better. It really is interesting that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you bring that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that will that will that that will that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thee. theee. theeeeeeee. the. the. the. the help this world better, to be better. It really is, really is interesting that you,

that you bring that up because there have been numerous studies that have shown that when you pay women what they are due, if you give women access to the workplace, if women earn more, society earns more, and you see this in countries where it's happening. It's not like because the women get money, now the men don't get money. The economy grows. Right. People earn more money. And this is a really interesting part of the book.

It's right at the beginning and it's just a beautiful little anecdotes. You go, um, recently on a call with a company hiring me to ensure that what you present is applicable to men to. I said, good question, but only if you ask every male speaker you've hired if his message is applicable to women to. Which is a really powerful thought that you don't think about. People will often say that. They'll be like, oh, man, maybe. Do the men understand women leadership? Yeah. Well, and also, this was like a women leadership conference that I was to to to to be, to be, to be, to, to, to, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi......... toe.a, toe.a, toe.a.a.a.e.a.a.a.a. toe.e.a.a, toe. toe.a, their, is, their, this was like a women leadership conference that I was going to. So like, so this dude to like say this on the call,

and I'm saving him from actually putting this company out and his name. But the reality is like, these microaggressions happen all the time. And I think what we need to start doing is becoming aware of what these micro micro aggressions are. That's what this whole book is about. And then having the courage and the language to be able to counteract some of these things that we are interacting with in the everyday life. So me asking him that very question,

my wife is the best at this. She's like, just flip it. Just flip the scenario, put yourself in the position. And if it is not equal, then that is prejudice. That is treating somebody less than. When you talk in the book about these ideas, what I really enjoy is, is there's a part of the book where you specifically say, hey, if you're a man reading this book, I hope you realize this book is for you as well.

This is a message we all have to engage in the wolves in Yellowstone, right? And it's a story many people know or don't know. It's about how in Yellowstone they were struggling with overpopulation of deers. And the deer were destroying everything, they were eating everything, they had no predator. And so the people said we need to introduce wolves. Yeah, the rivers stopped running. And so this decided,

the scientists decided that they would reintroduce wolves into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into into the Eliso National Park ecosystem and soon enough the wolves they displaced the deer through through hunting and then the vegetation grew back and the river bank started to strengthen and then the river started to run again and so when I was giving the speech at Barnard last May you know it was one of the most special moments of my life because I was trying to connect the dots and And when you write a speech, you don't know if they're going to get it. You know what I'm saying? When you write a joke, you don't know if people are going to laugh, although they're paid to laugh. Again, you will receive your money.

And so when I told them this story about the wolves, I was hoping that these barnered graduates would their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and their, their, and their, and their, their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, and their, and, and their, their, and their, their, their, their, their, thoes... thoomorrow, together.eaugh, together, together, thoomorrow, thooomorrow, their, their, their, their, their, the connection between what the wolves were experiencing, like what they, you know, wolves were threat to the system and they ended up being the salvation of this dying ecosystem. And so too can we as women be the salvation of what's happening in our system right now. It's a really beautiful message. It's a powerful book. I'm excited for the journey that you're going to be on. Thank you so so much for being on the journey that you're going to be on. Thank you so much for being on the show. Thank you. Wolf Peck is available now. It's a really fun read. Abby Wombok, everybody. The Daily Show with Kevernoa, Ears Edition.

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I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast.