The Daily Show: Ears Edition - ICYMI - Chris Rock Discusses "Fargo" and Civil Rights in America

Episode Date: November 25, 2020

Comedian and actor Chris Rock talks about his dramatic role as a charismatic villain on "Fargo," America's complicated civil rights struggles and self-exploring through therapy. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're rolling. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Chris Rock, welcome to the daily social distancing show. Yes.

Good to have you here. I feel like it's, you are a human being who has, after tambourine, you're special. Tambourine felt like it was a turning point in your life. And I feel like you have been on a journey of like just creating like the renaissance of Chris Rock. You know, like Tambourine was a point where you talked about family and and your marriage and what happened after that. And you've been really open about going to therapy and their, you, you, their, their, to, to, to, to, th, to, th and, their, th and, thi, thi, thi, thi, tom, tom, tom, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, tom, tom, toma, and, and, and, tombui, tombui, tombun, tom, tom, tom, tom, and, tom, tom, tom, and, tom, tom, and, and, and, and, tomom, and, and, and, and, tomomomomomomomfi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, tomere, and, tome, and, tome, and, toma, and, and, tomorrow, and, tomorrow, like, and, like, tomorrow, like, and, like, like, like, andaugh, like, like, tomorrow, anda, like, tomba, like, tombou really open about going to therapy and changing your life and changing your mind.

Now you're in Fargo, you know, in a role that, like I don't think any of us would ever dreamed of seeing you. Have you ever, have you ever even played a villain before? I never, you know what, I like did one episode of, oh god, empire, and I did, I did this movie Nurse Betty years ago with Morgan Freeman was a little movie right we're kind of hit men but you know when you this is like a series so you got to be a you know a villain for ten weeks so yeah it's real easy to be exposed in this in this realm but you know I'm I'm an old black man. I got anger.

I got, I summon it. Your performance is electric. Your vibe is different. You're playing a villain who also, like, I mean, we like at the same time. I guess we like, we like the essence of the character. We almost go like, well, this is the life of crime that he was thrust into and he just, he just lives it. Yeah, so it was, you know, a black man 1950, so it's like, his choices weren't vast. You know what I mean? So you root for him because they're like, wow, this guy actually created a comfortable life for himself and his family. I mean, he's got the flaws of every criminal,

every criminal thinks they're smarter than they think they are. You know what I mean? They're smarter than you think they are, but they're not as smart as they think they are. And, you know, we'll see what happens to him. But, you know, if you watched enough far ago, you know where this is going. I also like the premise. I feel like just one part of the story. I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't watched, but one of my favorite parts is how you have to raise each other's children

as just like a measure of keeping the peace, which I think could actually be a fantastic thing to do in America. Like maybe, maybe that's the solution you know, Republicans and Democrats swap your babies at birth. I'll take some MAGA kids. Yeah, I would love to. I don't know if my kids want to leave, you know, their posh-sh-uh living conditions, but yeah, I'll take a couple of maggot. What do you make of everything that's going on in the country? Is this now, the craziest now, or tho? thiiiiiiiiiiiii? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. I, thi. I, thi. I, thi. I, thi. I' thi. I' thi. I' thi. I' that, thi. I'll just, I'll just, I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll th. I' thi. I' thi. I' thi. I' thi. I' th. I' th. I' take a couple of maggot here. What do you make of everything that's going on in the country? Is this now the craziest now, or does it just feel like it

because we're living now? Is it the craziest? It's ultimately like, what's gonna be the ask? Okay, we're riding and we're shutting down cities, and we have all the attention of the whole world. Like, we were like, oh, this is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi's thi's thi's thi's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, the thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, the thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, I I I I, I, I, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, t. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. te te te te the thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi, thi. the attention of the whole world. Like we were like, oh, this is gonna change everything, but what are we really asking for? Are we asking for things that the powers that be will have to make real renovations to happen?

Because we say, we were here in the 60s, but the ask was actually not that great. Like, oh, we're asking to sit on a lunch counter with you. That's not really a big, that doesn't really require anything from the powers that be. Right, right. You know, I mean, taking now colored signs. I mean, so, you know, you have a situation whatever years ago. It's Martin Luther King. It's Andrew Young. It's Abernathy. It's all these guys. And they have an audience with the richest government in the history of the world. And they didn't ask for any money. They didn't ask for like, they didn't ask for anything that couldn't have been done with the snap of a finger. It feels, yeah, but like I feel like the money could,

it would have been easier when, because when you think about that lunch counter and you think about, think of it this way, like as comedians, right? When we're at the comedy table when they're not a comedian is quite an ask, you know? If an audience member was like, yo, can I sit at this table? We'd be like, I don't think that that is humanly possible, but we would be willing to give you $100. But that's how they felt about black people in America at the. If we felt, if we felt about ourselves as equals,

we would have said, fuck your lunch counter. Like, do you really get a fuck about a lunch counter? I would rather, if you told me we had equal education, but had to sit at separate lunch counter, okay, cool. If you said we had equal access to capital. Interesting. Money to have businesses, but we had to sit to se to sit to se to sit to se to sit to sit to sit to sit to sit to sit to sit to sit to sit to sit to sit to sit to sit to access to capital money to have businesses, but we had to sit at separate lunch counters, okay, like who gives up? I don't give a fuck about sitting, what, white people?

I care about opportunity for my children. Can my kids go to school easily and get the same education as a white man? Can my kids, you know, my kids want to start a business? Do they have that opportunity? school easily and get the same education as a white man. Can my kids, you know, my kids wanted to start a business, do they have that opportunity? All this other shit is cosmetic. It's just closed, dude. So now what's the ask? that's a good question because I mean, now it feels like, now it feels like the

ask has become a lot more than just a lunch counter. Now the ask has been like, let's look at your board of directors, let's look at the people you hire, let's look at the police, let's look at, you know what I mean? It feels like the ask, this is a different us in 2020. With the mindset that we're equal, that not only equal, shit, we had to live at the bottom, we're kind of just, there's parts of us that are superior because we've had to live underwater damn near. So we can hold our breath longer than you. But that's the real deal. This other wanting to be a part of something is bullshit, you know, Jackie Robinson got to play baseball. Oh, that's a great thing. No, the mother's got to play with him. That's what I'm trying to say.

They got to play with him. And you realize when Jackie Robinson got to play baseball, it destroyed the Negro leagues. Some of the only black businessmen that were making real capital at the time. Right. I hear what you say it's equity at the end of the day. Yeah, yeah, it's like... It's having a stake in your own future. Having a real stake in your own future.

I mean, yeah, the scribes of the civil rights movement were great, but don't get them confused with like real things. The things we got were, you know, we deserved. Right. It's not a, yeah, it's not a, it's not a gift and it's not a privilege. Yeah, it's not a privilege to be treated humanely. You know what I mean? When you release a hostage, it's not like, you don't have a party, they're just like, oh, good.

Like, oh, I'm glad that shit's over. Right. You know, and that's, you know, Black people would be like basically hostages in our own land. Yeah, look at us. Whooo! Chris Rock and Trevor Noah hatching it out. Breaking it down. I feel like in some ways, the journey America has been on now is not dissimilar to the journey you've been over the past, maybe let's say a year and a half, where it's been an extreme journey

of introspection and also self-work. I mean, maybe Chris Rock's journey has paid off sooner. You were doing what, like 9, 11 hours of therapy a day? I'm still doing about seven a week right now. What, explain to me what, like, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, the the the the the the the, the, the, the, to to to the, to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, the, is, the, i??? i? i..e, they? i.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. to.e.e. to. to. to. to.. Yeah. What can explain to me what like how you even do that? Are you trying to finish yourself? What's the, what's the, what's it, you trying to finish a video game? What are you doing?

I do two shrinks. I do a group and I do a learning specialist. That's for people. If I was tha thi thi th. thin th. th. th. thin thin thin thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. that, that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, how, how, how, do it like, put this way, if I was working on my body, that's not a long time. Right. I mean, I'm sure the rock does that just on, you know, just on leg day, you know, just on his legs. So I have the resources and, you know, I noticed certain patterns in my life that I was tired of repeating. Uh-huh. And yeah, man, I'm just exploring a lot of things. I'm doing I'm doing I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, Wasca, Friday night with a shaman and the

whole thing. I'm like, doing deep, Trevor Noah. I'm excited for you, I'm happy for you as a human being, as a friend, as a fan. Yeah, I'm excited to see what the next chapter is going to be like. I'm excited to see what you're going to do. And, boy, so are you covering this all the way to election day? Covering it all the way, sir. Oh, man, I can't wait. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know.

Neither outcome would shock me. Yep. Neither outcome would shock me. But I'm hoping for change. So, you know. I feel like, I'm with Mr. Biden. So, yeah, I said it. Yeah, I mean, I don't believe in celebrity endorsements anyway.

I don't believe, I mean, I do them, but it's not like, I don't think anybody's like, I was thinking about voting for Trump to Chris Rock said that. I don't think only one person is like, hey, man, I was just getting ready to write true and Trump, but I remember I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I hey man, I was just getting ready to write green Trump, but I remembered how much I like Pudy Tang and I said. Chris Rock, thank you for taking the time, my friend. Look off to yourself. Take care. The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central app. Watch full episodes and videos at the Daily Show.com. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, and subscribe to the Daily Show on YouTube for exclusive content and more.

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