The Daily Show: Ears Edition - ICYMI - Hillary Clinton on Voter Suppression, Hulu's "Hillary" & COVID-19 Cases in America

Episode Date: July 18, 2020

Hillary Clinton discusses the threat of voter suppression tactics, her work with Democracy Docket, Hulu's docuseries "Hillary" and the COVID-19 crisis in the U.S. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, I'm social distancing in my house and it's great to talk to you today, too. Genuinely, a lot of the time I find myself wondering, just like, what you're doing and where you are as a human being. Because I know if I was in your position, I would spend most of my time tweeting, I told you so, and then I would be like, I would walk around the street, just thapapapapapap, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, th, th, th, th.. could have been me. So what do you do? I genuinely would like to know, what do you do?

Well, you know, before the lockdown I was doing all of that. I mean, you know, there's probably video. You know, go find it or maybe I'll help you. You know, for the last, what, how many months? I've been at home since March, like everybody else. And I've done a lot of walking in the woods, one of my favorite things to do. And've done a lot of reading and some writing. This was the big year that we were going to be celebrating the hundredth anniversary of American women finally getting the right to vote. I'm working to support the groups that I help support through my organization onward together. And then I get to spend time with my grandchildren, which I have to say is the biggest silver lining, Trevor, that you can imagine during this very difficult time. So, you know, we're, I don't know what I do all day, but I'm exhausted every night.

I feel like that's everyone in Corona. We're all, we're all tired and we don't really know why. I do know that you've been really active in having your voice heard. One of the biggest things you've been passionate about is voting. It seems like America's on an ominous path to a November date when there's going to be a lot of questions in and around the election. Donald Trump is vehemently against mail-in voting. What do you make of this and what do you think the path should be to getting people the easiest access to costing their votes? Republicans have two prongs to their strategy to try to win. The first is try to prevent as many people who they think won't vote for them from

voting. So, you know, make the lines really long where young people vote or African Americans vote, or Hispanics vote, try to make vote by mail as difficult as possible, claim it's fraudulent when indeed it's not. In fact, that's how Donald Trump votes, and everybody who knows about vote by mail understands that. And so I've been working with a group called Democracy Docket,

led by the lawyer Mark Elias, to help support the lawsuits that are being brought around the country just to make the vote available you know to make it clear that look let's have a fair election and that means let as many people who are eligible citizens to go vote. Are you at all concerned about irregularities in voting or fraud? I mean, for instance, we saw the case in New Jersey, I think it was a few weeks ago now, where, ironically, it was a councilman who I think was changing the votes in Republicans' favor.

Is there a part of you that is worried that Donald Trump would be able to use any of those stories to try and undermine the entire election and say, you see, there's that one and thi th and th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. to, to thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. the. the. that Donald Trump would be able to use any of those stories to try and undermine the entire election and say, you see, there's that one and there's that one, I don't think we should trust this election at all because it says that I've lost. Well, I think it is a fair point to raise as to whether or not, if he loses, he's going to go quietly or not, and we have to be ready to be ready to be ready to be ready to be ready to be ready to be ready thua thian thian thian to be ready that. to go quietly or not and we have to be ready for that. But there have been so many academic studies and other analyses which point out that it's just an inaccurate fraudulent claim. There isn't that problem. All the games that are played and all of the photo IDs and any kind of restriction that can be imposed to try to keep the vote down in places that aren't going to vote for Republicans,

that's the real danger to the integrity of our election. That combined with misinformation and disinformation and all of the online shenanigans that we saw in 2016. So I'm, look, I want a fair election. If people get to vote and they, for whatever reason, vote for Donald Trump, okay, we'll that......... We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll a fair election. If people get to vote and they, for whatever reason, vote for Donald Trump, okay, we'll accept it. Not happily. But I don't think that's what will happen because I think the more people who can actually get to the polls, whether by mail or in person and get their votes counted, then we are going to have the kind of election we should have, and then it'll be a win both in the popular vote and in the the the the the th.. the the th. the to to th. the th. th. to to the to vote, th. to th. the thi. thi. to, the to be, to be, you, you, you, you, you' their, you' to be the the, you' to, you' to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thin, thin, thin, the, the, the, their, their, th. thin, thin, their, their, thin, thin, to, to, to, their, their, their, thin, their votes counted, then we are going to have the kind of election we should have,

and then it'll be a win both in the popular vote and in the electoral college. You are the star and subject of a docu series on Hulu. And for many people, I think maybe even myself included, I saw a side of you that was refreshing and different and for lack of a better term, you had a swag about you that not many people knew you had, you know? Do you feel more free or is that just captured well in the documentary? Is there a part of you that goes like, you know what, I'm free, screw, screw whatever? Yeah, there is. There's really a big part of that and and and the documentary you know I was interviewed for 35 hours and I yeah and my feeling once I agree to do the project was you know this is it I you know

I'm not running for anything I'm gonna just you know say it like it is the best I can and a lot of people have said what you've said, my gosh, I never saw that side of her or whatever. And so, you know, I know that the pressures of being in public life and being misunderstood and being kind of subjected to the attacks and the criticism, I know that it probably made me a little less available and open on and, and, and, you know, and, and, you know, and, and, you, and I I I I I I I I I I I I to, and, and to, and to, and to, and I to, and I to, and I to, and I to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their th, you know, you know, I th, I th, I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, thi, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their the attacks and the criticism. I know that it probably made me a little less available and open and probably a little hunkered down, if you will. And my life is a little bit like a Roarshok test where people who are comfortable with women, seeking and holding power, being outspoken, you know, see it and think,

oh my gosh, well well yeah, of course. And then people who aren't, maybe they'll, you know, begin to, you know, think differently about that. Many women have said that, they've said, Hillary Clinton got further and did more than I ever dared to think was possible. If there's another Hillary out there who's running and beginning her journey, what would you warn her about or tell her to try and look out for to just give her a little advantage in a world where she desperately needs it? You will be criticized no matter what you do.

And so take criticism seriously because sometimes your critics actually can teach you something. But don't take it personally. Don't let it eat away at you. Don't let it knock you down and keep you down. The women who I admire that, you know, Chelsea and I wrote that book about gutsy women are women who are not just in it for themselves. Whatever it is that motivates you, have something bigger than yourself that is going to get you up in the morning and keep going. Because it can be brutal out there. It can be incredibly difficult. You could be called a nasty woman for heaven's sakes. So what you've got to do is just believe, not just in yourself alone, but in what you're trying to do for others. And that will keep you motivated no matter what. Let me ask you this question is, are you now

ready to wear a mask now that Donald Trump has finally put one on? I'm assuming you just haven't been wearing one waiting for this moment. Yeah, no, I mean I've actually been wearing one and I think you know better late than never I guess. My daughter had a great tweet which I retweeted where she said look I'm not being sarcastic. If he would sell masks with his face on him and go ahead and make the money, at least it would send a good message. So now that he has been seen once in a mask, maybe those people who still, you know, take their cues from him will similarly start wearing masks. Because we're in a desperate situation again, Trevor. I mean, look, I mean, look, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, thi, if the, the, the, the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if thi, if th th th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, thei would thei would thei would thei would thei wa thei would thei would theeei woooo. thee, the,ir cues from him will similarly start wearing masks. Because we're in a desperate situation again, Trevor.

I mean, look, I mean, Florida, if it were an individual country right now, would have the fourth highest rate in the world after the overall US and Brazil, India. So, you know, we are a long way from getting this under control. But there's no denying that every country once they got an idea of what the coronavirus was, handled it differently. When you look back at the way America handled it, once people understood how severe this was, where do you think President Trump went wrong, or where do you think a good president would have done something differently?

Well, I think you have to start with President Trump's total hostility towar science, evidence, facts, logic, reason. He is a showman. He is a reality TV star. He likes to try to bend reality to suit his own preferences. And he clearly started hearing about this back in January, through intelligence briefings that he either read or he didn't read. But even before that, he had disbanded the unit within the National Security Council that would try to get ahead of and follow the development of pandemics abroad. He had really made it clear

that he was more interested in the optics than the facts when the virus first hit and he kept saying, you know, we have 15 cases, it'll be over soon. So you've got to begin and end with his total lack of leadership, his indifference toward what this virus has cost us, not only in lives, but in jobs and livelihoods. And now, of course, he doesn't want to hear from our leading infectious disease experts, like Dr. Fauci. He doesn't want to hold, even the sham of the meetings that he used to hold

to try to talk about it. he's, he's helping that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that ittalk about it. He's hoping that it either goes away or it leaves our attention span so that he can get back to pretending to be president. You very rightfully call him a showman. I mean, that's something we all acknowledge. Donald Trump has an uncanny ability to put on a show and just really, you know, suck all of the attention that the media wants to give him. There has to be a part of you that, you know, I guess is a little angry at that because

I mean, when you're running for president, a lot of it in America specifically is about putting on the show. Do you sometimes wish there was a, like a test that you'd have, like, a test that you'd have to have a to write some, because you're sitting at home and you have so many of these answers and you've studied so hard, but really you got beaten by a showman who just knew how to win the ratings. How do you feel about that when you see what America's going through now? Well, it breaks my heart,

because I tried to warn people for the office, he wasn't prepared for the office, that his appeals to the basest instincts among us was really setting us up for even more divisiveness, and then I saw it literally from the inauguration forward. I take no pleasure in that because look, I want to root for America, I want to root for anybody who's our president. It's just hard to see what he's done to the office, his undermining of our institutions, his absolute disregard for the rule of law. And I think you're right, that it is painful for me,

but I think for many Americans who expected better. Even people who voted for him, expected him to rise to the job, and increasingly that has become just impossible to expect any longer. I have to ask you about Roger Stone. Help me understand. A, why do presidents, or should presidents have the power to pardon anybody, especially someone who's related to them in a case, and secondly, what precedents could Trump be setting for America slash, do you think it's going to

be a precedent where a president says, I will pardon anybody who protects me by not snitching? Well, I think you just summed up why Roger Stone was pardoned. I mean, he basically threatened Trump. You know, he basically said, I sure don't want to go to jail, and I sure have a lot more to say, and boy, I just wish there'd be somebody you could stop me from having to go to jail, and guess what? You know, Trump intervened.

This is an extension extension extension an a a a extension extension extension extension the extension is an extension is an extension is an extension the extension is an extension of the total disregard for the rule of law. The pardon power is supposed to be used for compassionate purposes, to try to write wrongs, to try to make sure that people are not being punished unfairly or have been punished enough. And in this case case it's a continuation of the cover-up because the one thing that Trump is fearful of when it comes to his being president is that finally we will see how illegitimate his victory actually was and how he was involved in the seeking of foreign help and then the utilization of it and how Roger Stone was

critical to that. But you know, unless Trump is defeated at the polls in November, we will never really know, everything there is to know about this really deep, ongoing dismantling of institutions and undermining the rule of law and the original sin of the way that he actually won the election. So Roger Stone was in the middle of it all and that's why you know Trump had to cover it up. Well Secretary Clinton thank you so much for taking the time today. I hope you enjoy the gardening, your walks in the woods and hopefully

you'll be back out in the streets saying I told you so much for taking the time today. I hope you enjoy the gardening, your walks in the woods, and hopefully you'll be back out in the streets saying I told you so sooner than later. I'll look forward to that, Trevor, and stay healthy and stay safe yourself. We'll do. Thank you very much. The Daily Show with Trevor Noa, Ears Edition. Watch the Daily Show, weeknights, weeknights, and the the the the the Comedy Central app. Watch full episodes and videos at the Daily Show.com. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, and subscribe to the Daily Show on YouTube for exclusive content and more.

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