The Daily Show: Ears Edition - ICYMI - Nadia Murad on Surviving ISIS and Fighting Against Genocide

Episode Date: November 30, 2020

Nobel Peace Prize laureate and "The Last Girl" author Nadia Murad discusses advocating for survivors of genocide and sexual violence, the atrocities she faced from ISIS and being a refugee. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I hope everyone can help to raise awareness about these topics. You have spoken about this and I think that's why your story is so powerful because many people thought of ISIS and you know there was a point where it was all that was in the news and once the larger caliphate was defeated, people thought the story was finished. But you've been an advocate speaking out saying, there are so many women who are still the victims of sex trafficking and sexual violence at the hands of ISIS, at the hands of this Islamic State, that's trying to create terror through the abuse of women's bodies.

What are some of the things that you think the international community could be doing to help? You know, I wish that our pain and what is happening to us right now, after six years of what ISIS did to us, I wish it was gone with when they killed Baghdadi or other ISIS, but this is not the reality. The reality is that we have, until today, we have 2,000 Yazidi women and children still in captivity, including my sister-in-law, my niece, my nephew. We have more than 85 mass graves in Senjar right now.

We have more than 60% of the UCD community is displaced. Our homeland is destroyed. And what ISIS can not just for one or two days, ISIS left behind them a community that will not recover without the support of international community. A year ago, you met with the President of the United States, Donald Trump, and in the Oval Office, and I actually want to show a little clip of that meeting. I hope you can call or anything to Iraqi and Kurdistan government to... But ISIS is gone. But if I can't... And now it's Kurdish and who?

Iraqi, Iraqi government. If I cannot go to my home and leave... But ISIS is gone. But if I can't... But now it's Kurdish and who? Iraqi. Iraqi government. If I cannot go to my home and live in a safe place and get my dignity back, we cannot find a safe place to leave. All this happened to me, they killed my mom, my six brothers, they left behind them. Where are they now? They killed them.

They are in the mass graves in Senjah, and I'm still fighting just to live in safe. Please do something. You had to explain to him the situation on the ground. Since then, have you heard back, or has anything changed or has anything been done to try and remedy what is happening to the Yazidis and especially the women? With the US government we have been doing a lot of work. Vice President Mike Pence, he, from the beginning, is a big support to our case to Yazidi to go back.

I think one of the most difficult challenges I have faced since the beginning that my community was not well known to other people. I even listened to their presidents around the world. And it was difficult for me to go and explain to them who we are, what happened to us. I think 20 days later I had met them again in France in the G7 in the France and I think they got the message and this was my work advocating for my community and many other communities around the world that to make sure that people wouldn't know what happened to us. So they would try to to do something like Yazidi or others will not go through that things again.

When we see images of people who are fleeing countries as refugees, oftentimes we are told the story, especially in Western media, that these people want to look for a better life in another country. But you talk about how much pride people have for their homeland, how much people want to go home. Do you think that if the Iraqi government and the international community could come together to fix these regions and rehabilitate what has happened? Do you think people will come back? You know, I don't think those people that have already made it to Europe or Canada or other places will go back soon because they are seeing the other peoples in Iraq still this place. But why I started to focus on my homeland,

as someone who was kidnapped, as someone who lived as a refugee, this place is because I knew that no one is ready to take more refugees. And we can, they can help us and other, other small communities and other countries, for people can go back, but without support and safety, we cannot go back. I can't tell you that I'm not happy to be a refugee. After spending my entire life with my family, you always wanted to stay in your home, and it's not something that I wish to be a refugee. No, it's not that easy.

Right. The fact that easy. Right. The fact that you faced so many atrocities at the hands of ISIS, you've been through things that no human being could ever imagine going through, and yet you've used it to become an advocate for the change you want to see, and you're trying to move the world into a more positive place. Where did you find the strength, or what keeps you going in a fight that seems so unwinnable sometimes? You know, since the first day started,

it's not something easy. I came from a small community, a family that we were 11 siblings. My mother raised us by her, like on her own. She was a single mother. It was not easy for her. They came to me, my family, my community. They raped us.

They killed my mother. They killed six of my brothers who left behind them, six widows with 21 minor children, like so many other people, many other PZD families, who are still waiting to, to, when they took, to see our family members, like, bury them inthem in our homeland. I don't think it's something that I want to do it. I am not happy with all this thing because I was part of what happened. But I have no other choice. And I guess that's the painful truth.

You don't have a choice. I feel like if everyone in the world felt like they didn't have a choice, then hopefully governments would step up and do something about it. And especially on a day like today, hopefully we can stand together and have the right people hear the message that we have to try and fight against sex trafficking and the trafficking of women around the world, no matter where or how it's happening. Thank you so much for having me and forgive me if my my the English my English'm trying to study hard because I was not able to finish high school. Stay safe and please wear your mask for your safety and the safety of everyone's else.

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