The Daily Show: Ears Edition - ICYMI - The White People Whisperer: Dr. David Campt's Guide to Avoiding Holiday Disasters

Episode Date: December 23, 2020

Desi Lydic meets with White Ally Toolkit founder Dr. David Campt for a crash course in how white liberals can better interact with their racist relatives over the holidays. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to Comedy Central. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Our country is experiencing the most divisive time in recent history, but the holidays are

upon us. I want to find out what families are doing to stay connected this season. We just ignore family around the holidays. We stay ready for our relatives that are racist. Take antidepressants. Get medicated. We got a lot to racist relatives. Yes, unfortunately. What do you do when your racist cousin says something racist?

Not allowed in my house. No way, my house, my house. Not allowed in my house. No way, my house, my rules. My grandfather was racist when we would watch football and people of particular color would be running down the field. He would cheer for them using the not nice words. Oh, he's dead now? Yes, man. That's good. That's probably for the best. I was starting to see a pattern, particularly among white families. But crazy shit like this doesn't have to be a holiday tradition. Luckily, there's a solution, and that's where I come in,

by letting this guy come in. Meet Dr. David Camp. As a racial dialogue expert, he travels the country running a workshop called the White Ally Toolkit, where woke-white liberals learn to effectively communicate with the not-so-woke. David's basically the white people whisperer. So how many of you folks have racist friends, relatives that you think you might see over the holidays? Everybody. So what are some things that white people tend to do wrong when...

Sure. Crocks with socks. Crocks with socks are in fact bad, but let me finish the question. I'm asking, what are some things that white people do wrong when other white people say things that are racially problematic or otherwise disturbing? I mean like calling someone like an idiot or stupid. That's exactly right. No, because you can send it in a text. So the method that you want to think about is race, and race stands for reflect ask connect expands. Let's suppose that person is your cousin Biff. How does he know my cousin Biff? And Biff wants to talk about how affirmative action is keeping him out of a job and making black folks lazy. What do you do? Not my house.

What does that mean? He's not allowed in your house. My house, my rules. Not my house. Or you can try to influence people and stay connected to them. You ask him what happened in his life that caused him to believe that. Is that, is that? No? It's not. Actually, that's correct.

That's exactly what you should do. All right. Let's turn to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to to to let's turn to the next part of the scenario. So what's important to do is to find something you can agree with and what Biff said and connect with him. No, I can't connect with him. No, I can't connect with him. As an official black person, I'm tellain I'm tell.

You can't connect with him. Yeah, but I got to be real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real to be real honest to be real honest to be real honest to be real to be real to be real to be real to be real to be real thoomomomoom so tho to be real to be real honest on the inside. No, no, no, no. No, no. I did see Black Panther nine times, though. I know very much identified with it. That's great, but you are a white person. Yeah, yeah. And you have a similarity to Biff that I do not. Okay, you know, I hear you. I get it now.

Okay. To see if this was effective, I needed to to it out in the real world. I've decided to put David's methods to the test, and there's no better place to find conflicting family views than New Jersey. The Co-Francisco family had a history of dinners gone bad, so they were more than willing to let any random stranger with cameras come into their home What's on your sweater? Just, you know, your standard traditional Christmas sweater. It's black. Yeah, it's just a Santa sweater.

Pop-up, would you wear a sweater like Desi's? Maybe not. If I would have known you were in your black Santa sir, I would have worn my black Jesus sweater. Jesus is white. Jesus is in black or white. He was Jewish. Jewish is a Jewish. Jewish.

The nationality part is was was was was Jewish is Jewish is Jewish is Jewish. Jewish. Jewish is a religion. Jewish is a religion. The nationality part is Jewish. No. Well, if Jesus wasn't going to bring this family together at Christmas time, there was only one thing that could. So, who likes football? I don't watch football anymore. He hasn't watched football all year. Why haven't you watch football all year?

Why have you watch football all year? What's the kneeling? The kneeling? Yes. Don't like it. You don't like it? Not at all. I disagree. It was time to work my magic. Okay, so you say that you disagree. Yes. Okay, this is the point of the conversation where you need to connect. You're really going to them kneeling to turn on. What way of handling this set of conversations?

You have to be a house on the race? I don't know how to do it. I'm trying to tea. I'm trying to teach you how to have a civilized conversation. I think it's going great. I really feel that this family is responsive to the the the the the them. I think David would feel very proud of the way that I'm handling this. I put the TV on and I watch this kid kneel down. I shut it off. I don't want to watch him. Just like let them kneel, who cares?

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Happy all in. What's so happy, Bob? It's a scary type of men right now. Men? Men? Just men? Well, there's always next year. Something tells me I'll be back.

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