The Daily Show: Ears Edition - If You Don't Know, Now You Know - Ticket Quotas for Police | Tamron Hall

Episode Date: October 27, 2021

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But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second the th.. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. the the th. th. th. thi-S. the, the, thi-S. thi-S. thea-Sepepea-Sepe-Sepnipe, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. There. There. There. There. There. It. It. It's th. It's th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's th. It's th. It's the. It's the. It's the. 0e. 0e. 0e. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. If you were trapped, if you got lost on a hike, let me ask a white person this question. So if you, if you got lost, I mean like these are questions, come on, there's black people, what are we, when was the last time you had a hiking conversation? Every time I see like stories about like,

someone lost in the woods, man, lost hiking, I'm like, ah, I know who this was, there's no, do you know what I mean? There's never been a situation where I'm like, oh shit, is it, is it Mupp? No, no. I know which friends I would even call if that happened. Because I mean, let's be honest. So if you, if you were ever trapped on like a hike, if you went on a hike, and then you got lost, what would you probably do? You'd probably call someone or something, right? So this is one of my favorite stories. There's a guy who was hiking and got in the woods for like 24 hours and then had to be rescued. And then it turns out when they rescued him, they had been calling him. The rescuers had been calling him and he didn't answer the phone because it was an unknown caller.

And now there were like two major things that I was thinking of here is like, number one, like this is the time when even a telemarketer is going to help you in your life. Do you know what I mean? Who are you? Or how much debt do you have? That like your phone is ringing and you're like, please, somebody, somebody, did it, did, do, did it, who? Something like, no.

Also, like what number are you waiting for when you're trying to get rescued? It doesn't say rescuer. I don't know. You haven't saved rescuer in your phone. What kind of an idiot, like, why wouldn't you answer the phone? You know? And then secondly, like, do we not, the meaning of words, do that, like, if a person is like stranded, I don't think that means you have a phone, that receive calls. You're just taking some time out. Because if your phone can ring, if you have battery, to me, stranded means nothing, nothing is working. Do you know what I'm saying?

If your phone can ring, you're not stranded. Like if you phone me and you're like, help me, I'm like, you're fine. I'll see you later. I only worry when the phone doesn't ring anymore you can't answer it. Then I'll stress. Hello? This is Trevor. Oh no! Then I stress. Otherwise my friends know. Like, you know? Also if you're hiking, ah, my man. Isn't that what you were trying to do? Why else would you go off where we did not make roads and paved things? I mean, this is you've asked for it to a certain degree. You've said, I wish to involve a walk in my life that could end with me not being found.

That's what a hike is, fundamentally. It's people saying, I wish to go somewhere and maybe not be found ever again. I'm not saying something that should happen to you. I'm just saying that is what you've chosen to do. Because there are many walks where you can't, like, if if if New York I'm on 50th Street then I'm like oh I'm lost oh 49th Street I know where I am do you understand what I'm saying that's why we wrote that that's literally why we wrote the streets throes because at some point someone was like I don't know where I am then they're like let's give them names and then the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm their I'm their I'm their their ti I'm ti I'm ti I'm ti. ti one one's tryrowne I'm tie. tryn't tie. their their their their their their their their the where the streets have no names. Well, then you sort of get what you asked for.

Yeah, it was the joys of hiking. Coming to you from the heart of Times Square, the most important place on earth. It's the Daily Show. Ears edition. Tonight, Facebook likes that you're angry. The real reason cops pulled you over. And Cameron Hall. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah.

Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah and joining me today is my good man. Roy Wood Jr. What's going on, Roy? Hey, what's up, man? How you doing, my dude? It's good to see you, man. Nice to see you here, you know, ready for the show? We're gonna do some headlines together? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. Social media, I'm promoting my hour special,

imperfect messenger. Friday, October 29th, episode of The Gods on this Truth with Charlemagne Leonard McElvey the God. Did you just promote your new stand-up special and then Charlemagne's show in this show? But they need to know when I come on. I come on after Charlemagne so it's important I say Charlottes. Yeah, but it's weird because we're about to do the headlines. I said I would be here with you. Yeah, but you, that, I assume that meant we were doing it together. I didn't think you would just be here with you. I will check in from time to time with you when I have an opportunity between...

See, you're messing up my algorithm. Oh, either way. I'm happy to have you here, Roy. You know you're promoting other things. about. The worst PR week in Facebook history. This week is so bad for Facebook that Mark Zuckerberg was like, Facebook? No, that's not me. That was started by the Winkle Vi. And by now you've probably heard about the whistleblower who smuggled a bunch of documents out of Facebook.

Well, it turns out that was only the beginning. For the past few weeks, nearly two dozen major media outlets have been secretly working together to mine these documents for new stories. And now, the shit has finally hit the Facebook fan page. The Washington Post reports that starting in 2017, Facebook's algorithm was programmed to put higher value on emogies like the angry face. They gave an angry response five times more value than content that got likes on the news feed. The company's own researchers were worried about this, warning that this could open the door to abuse, rage, and polarizing users.

Yeah, that's right. Facebook knew it was rewarding shitty posts as long as they generated an emotional response. And I'll be honest, when I first heard about this, I was shocked. Because I couldn't believe that Mark Zuckerberg knows what emotions are. I also got to say this, I mean, this is the worst use of emoges I've ever heard of. Like, emogies shouldn't be used to emotionally manipulate people. They should be used as a fun way to ask someone if they'll water your eggplant. I actually can't believe how pissed at all people get when I ask them that. It's really strange. Although, it does make sense because in regular life, we all put more value on things that produce an emotional response in us.

You know, it's why Donald Trump became president. And Jeff Bush works at a quiz nose now. Please clap. You know what's wild about Facebook, Is that if you put in the title of your new hour special and a bunch of emoges, it likes. This shit is crazy. Also, Facebook is just fight club.

You need people over there fighting. That's the whole point of Facebook. In emogies shorten conversations. Let's also acknowledge that. We're not going to just put this all off on Facebook. We don't even type L-O-L no more. That's that's is is is a bad thing. We should be using words. No, we should not be using words. If I wasn't here with you right now, I wouldn't be talking to you. We shouldn't be using words. Like if you want to have a nice measured, detailed conversation with emotion,

take your ass to Ets. It's the length of a red light at an intersection. I don't have time for nuance. Smolly face, Smolly face, gun emoji, smiley face, frown, eggplant. Got it. Green light. You're a dangerous driver. Our next story is about school. The place where you get rid of all your extra apples. Right now, there's a big movement among conservatives to protect children from being exposed to liberal ideas in school. Ideas like racism is bad or gays are not bad.

And you know, it's almost like conservatives learn too much about cancel culture and accidentally got really into it. You know, like sort of how when you start hate watching a real housewives show and then seven seasons later, all of a sudden you're like, I know Ramona and Sonia say their best friends, but would you talk about your best friend like that behind their back? Come on! Yeah, I hate that show.

And now, this issue has been injected into the Virginia governor's race, with a striking new TV ad ad from Republican, thapapapapapapapapapapapapapaped, th, th, th, th, th, th th thi, thi, thi, thi, to to thi, to to thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to it, to it, to it, to it, to it, to it, to it, to it, to it, to it, to it, to it, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi to thi to to to thi to to to thi, a parent, it's tough to catch everything. So when my son showed me his reading assignment, my heart sunk. It was some of the most explicit material you can imagine and met with lawmakers. They couldn't believe what I was showing them. Their faces turned bright red with embarrassment. They passed bills requiring schools to notify parents when explicit content was assigned. I was so grateful. But then Governor Terry McAuliffe vetoed it twice.

He doesn't think parents should have a say. He said that. He shut us out. Whoa. What were these kids reading? Was this first grader reading 50 Shades of Gray? Was it like a little coloring in book of dick picks? No, it turns out it was actually the Pulitzer Prize winning Tony Morrison novel, Beloved. And also, it wasn't a young kid.

It was a high school senior in an AP English class. And I'm sorry, guys. But any parent who thinks their 17-year-old son's school assignment is too explicit, they need to check out his browser history, because trust me, he can handle it. And this shows you that the real dangerous ideology in America isn't conservatism or liberalism, it's helicopter parenting. I mean, an AP class is basically a college course. Like, how long is this lady gonna be trying to protect her kid, huh?

This poor guy's gonna have his mom bust into his dorm room, like, don't make him charge, he'll get an owie and he's some-come. Here's my problem. Banning so-called offensive books is a slippery slope, because what's offensive is subjective. Like what what what what might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi. thi. toe? toe? toe? toe, thi. toe? toe, toffi. toffense, toffense, tooom, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toa. toa. toea. toa. toea. toeau. toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe thi. and vice versa. Like I would never want my kid reading the Great Gatsby. I think it glamorizes friend zoning. That's immoral. You know, would you read it? I too many white people in that book. I'm from Birmingham. They wouldn't let us read that book. We was reading autobiography of Malcolm X. We was reading some Madam C. J. Walker. We did read the one book with the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thoe. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the.J. Walker. We did read the one book with the elf running around.

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Uh-huh. To feed yourself. Yeah, that dude fed himself for 50 cents a day. Genius! We should get him to fix all the world's economies before he dies from gouts. I mean, right now, the Democrats are struggling to figure out how to pay for health care. This guy, this guy would solve it, he it, he it, he it, he it, he it, he, he, he, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th, th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the to thean, to to to thean, theiiii. theeeeee thee the the the come in and be like, all you gotta do is go to the first day 10 at six flags and tell them, the roller coaster gave you lupus.

Boom, free health care. I mean, if anything, this guy's only mistake was buying a house. My dude, you're on a roll. Why buy a house? When you can just crash in the place feel roomier and stretchier. And by the way, how are amusement parks, both the cheapest and most expensive places on earth? Like eat for a year, $150. A mouse pad with a picture of you and a roller coaster? $3,000! No in between! But I will say, man, props to this guy for gaming the system.

You know, this is the kind of shit you could only get away with that Six Flags. You know, because they're a chilled amusement park. If you tried this at Disney, oh man, Mickey wouldn't mess around. He'd have you hanging by your thumbs in that castle dungeon. Whoa, okay, asshole. You got your free food. Now you're going to get kept going to the park alone, you know, every trip.

What's wrong with that? That's creepy. You can't just keep going to an amusement park by yourself by yourself. It just don't look right. I used to go to Chuck and Cheese by myself. I used to go to Chuck and Cheese by myself. Because I like video games and I couldn't figure out how to, like, you know, the hotel, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you, you, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, the, the the the the the the the th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, tha, tha, tha, you know, you know, you know, you the the Chuck and Cheese by yourself? Yes, and then I have to stop, and I have to stop because people look at you. That's why they built Dave and Busses. Dave and buses is for grown folks who want to play video games alone without being labeled or something that they aren't.

I get it. Have you been on the Six Flags website? They got good food. Like you think like an amusement park is just like high school concession stand food? Brother, they got pizza and barbecue Asian fusion, they got footage of my new hour special. Oh Jesus. Impurfect messenger. Premiering Friday at 1030 on Comedy Central. Oh, no, no, I already gave him two shout-outs. All right.

All right, well, it's time to take a quick break, but when we come back, we'll talk about the issue that cops and Black Lives Matter actually agree on. You don't want to miss it. So Friday at 1030. Only on comedy. Uncensit. Oh. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a thine a thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thin thin thin thin. thin. thin. thin. to to to to to thin. thin. thin' th at th at th at th at th at th at th. th at th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. th. thin. th. thin. th. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the thi. th in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter finds amazing candidates for you fast. And right now you can try it for free your job, zip recruiters powerful matching technology starts showing you qualified people for it, and you can use zip recruiters pre-written invite to apply message to personally reach out to your favorite candidates and encourage them to apply sooner.

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But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News, listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Show. Let's talk about the police. The reason every black person immediately knows when their tail light goes out. Very helpful. People are always complaining about getting pulled over by the police. But the surprising truth is that a lot of the time, the police don't want to be pulling you over either. So then if they don't want to do it,

why are they doing it? Well let's find out in another installment of if you don't know, now you know. Police give people tickets for all sorts of reasons. Maybe they caught you speeding, or maybe you ran a stop sign, or maybe they're lonely, and they just want someone to pull their gun on. But it turns out there's another reason that people keep getting pulled over by the cops. And it's a dirty little secret called the quota system. A lot of police stops happen every year, 20 million of them, and many of those stops, millions of those stops have nothing to do with traffic safety.

It's being called a quota culture. Officers are being pressured to give traffic tickets, forced to meet certain monetary requirements. Ticket quotas are illegal in several states, including New York, Illinois, California, and Florida. But even former law enforcement officials will tell you they still exist. Commanders asking troopers to write a minimum of 60 traffic violations a month. On multiple documents, it says this is not a quota. It's morning rush hour and you are watching a Chicago police officer driving the wrong way down busy streets, driving

in the direct path of oncoming motorists, even with no emergency lights, and cutting people off without warning. The cop isn't chasing a fleeing suspect. She's trying to beat motorists to their parked cars before 7 a.m. so she can quickly write as many tickets as possible. Wow. Did you see that cop? That was so dangerous. People, other than my Uber eats driver, nobody should ever drive the wrong way down a street.

Because it isn't just dangerous, it's petty as hell. I mean, at least when Ben Diesel drives like this, it's to save his family. This cop is out there like... There's only one thing I'm willing to die for in this world, issuing $30 parking tickets. Now the quota system is technically illegal in multiple states, including Florida. And you know if Florida says something is illegal, then it's really bad. I mean that's the only state that lets you order a margarita with meth on the rim. It's very tasty, by the way. But despite being illegal, quotas are still unofficially a big thing in police departments

across the country. So you may be asking, why are police departments so horny for handing our tickets? Well it turns out it's for the same reason that everything happens in America. Money. money. Many cities balance their budgets in part based on things that people do wrong. Anywhere between five to seven billion dollars are made every year from known speed traps arbitrarily low speed limits with heavy traffic enforcement designed to generate ticket revenue. Nearly 100 Georgia cities relying on ticket money to fund at least 10% of their annual revenues.

All over Colorado towns that cite so many drivers, the cash flow makes up a huge chunk of their budgets. None at 40%. Morrison at 52, Mountain View, 53. Washington, D.C. had issued $1 billion in traffic tickets in over a three-year period. Rolling down this two-mile stretch of Interstate 295 in Hopewell, Virginia, you'll see why it's dubbed the million-dollar mile. For years, Hopewell has used this sliver of highway that runs not through but along the

town's border as its personal cash register. Last year, Hopewell collected $1.8 million from speeding tickets. Traffic experts say, there's no overwhelming safety issue on that stretch of interstate. Yeah, it turns out speeding tickets are a lot like uploading pictures of your feet to the internet. It brings in a surprisingly large amount of money. And when I learned about this, it really changed how I view reckless driving because now, when I see somebody driving 80 in a school zone, I think, wow, man, that person really likes to give back to the community, the community, the community, the community, the community, their, their, the their, the the their, the the the the their, the the the the, the the the the the the the their, the their, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I'm tha, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, is, is, and, is, is, is, is, is, and, and, is, and, is, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, t.a.a..e. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. tote. te. te. te. And, te. And, is, that person really likes to give back to the community. That's really impressive. And when you consider that some of these towns are making basically their entire budget off of these tickets, it finally gives us a good answer to that first question that cops always ask.

Sir, do you know why I pulled you over? Yeah, because your town is broke as fuck. You guys. You guys should try that with that with that with that with that with that with that with that with that with that with that with that with that with that with th th th th th th th th th th th th their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tom. toes. toes. toes. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. try that with the cops. Let me know how it goes. But congrats to these towns. I mean, I guess they found a way to squeeze money out of the people who made the unforgivable mistake of driving. It's not just about safety. It's about making the money. But it turns out, the cops responsible for handing out all of these tickets, they aren't celebrating because the truth is they would rather be doing anything else. Most police officers don't want to be handing out tickets all day long. They're saying this is not why we got into policing. We got into policing. We got into policing, but we got into policing to protect and serve. No trooper or officer's hand should be forced to write a certain amount of summonses.

You wind up with less confidence in your local law enforcement agency, you deteriorate the relationship between your citizens and your police department. State police chief says safety of his citizens is at risk because the city wants him to focus more on issuing more traffic tickets than investigating crimes. The problem is if you're gonna write that many tickets, it's gonna take your whole day. I'm not here to make money. I'm here to run a police department. That's right.

These cops didn't get into policing because they wanted to ticket people. They got into it so that every few months, they could dramatically throw their badge and gun onto a chief's desk. Well, if the mayor doesn't think this case this this this case this case this case this case this case this case this case this case this case this case thi is thi is thi is thi is thiolome is worth pursuing, then I'll solve it myself. I'll find the bastard who stole my leftovers from the office fridge. Yeah, seriously though, there are a lot of police out there who would much rather spend their time actually making their community safer. And they know that ticketing random people every day doesn't actually do that. I mean, Batman would never catch the joker if people kept turning on the bat signal because someone parked in a handicap spot.

And you might think, well, okay, if the police don't want to write as many tickets, then they just shouldn't do it. These are the police, right? Don't they do whatever they want? And yes, that's usually the case. But when it comes to these quotas, their ass that's on the line. The public doesn't often see how quotas are enforced in the background. They're enforced on the backs of police officers. In this emailed state troopers in Williamsburg, a supervisor tells his team four to ten tickets a week is unacceptable. He says the so-called enforcement numbers are pitiful and hinted possible lower evaluations.

Some Richardson police officers say every week the number of tickets they write. . Some Richardson police officers say every week the number of tickets they write is posted for everyone on their shift to see and there's an average given. If an officer falls below the average number of citations, they suffer the consequences. I was threatened the last week that if I don't get my numbers up, then a series of punishments will happen. If you didn't get the number of tickets you wanted, if you didn't get the 100 contacts, you get mandatory overtime, you get written up. A supervisor last year telling his officers that the bottom two performers would drive a pool car,

meaning a clunker. This other officer, getting his radar gun taken away for not writing enough tickets. That's how hard they pressure the cops. If you don't write enough tickets, they'll even take away your radar gun. Which means you have to calculate it a car's speed in your head. Yeah. A hundred and fifty? It goes to show you the quarter system isn't just unfair to citizens.

It's unfair to the police too. And the worst part is, the cops can't even protest this, because every time they try, they just beat themselves up out of habits. And here's the really important thing about the quota system, is that no one likes it. Everyone. The police don't like it. The police unions don't like it. Libertals don't like it.

They all want the system gone. It's one of those rare areas in life where where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, the th, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, th, th, th, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the thi, and thi, and the the thi, and thi, and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, th, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, the thi, th system gone. It's one of those rare areas in life where everyone wants the same reform. You know, like we, like how we all agree that we shouldn't have to sign the credit card machine when we use toucest paying. I mean, it's toucest. Why am I grabbing the same plastic pen that everyone else in the CVS just rubbed with their sweaty hands? The system is broken. And yet, as long as it keeps making money the money the money the the the money money money money money money money money money the the the the the money money money money money the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theck is theck is theck is these cities, the quota system isn't going anywhere. Unless there's another way for the police to make money. And I think we may have found it. Americans are tired of ticket quotas that get them pulled over and shot. Isn't there a better way for police to make money for our chronically underfunded

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like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, A Second Look, starting September 17, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is Emmy award-winning television host, journalist and author, Tamron Hall.

She's here to talk about her brand new book, a crime thriller that shines a light on the lack of media coverage when young black children go missing. Tamarhol, welcome to the Daily Show. It's great to be here. I love your new home. Oh, it's nice, yeah. It's a good, very lovely. It's just like a little vibe, just to get out of the house and then, you know, we see

where the world just like came in the middle of you starting a new show. And yet despite all of that you have just I mean you've just been on a rise congratulations. Thank you it's been surreal I mean we had three months in our new studio kicking off season one. Right. I ended up in my basement of my home with my son upstairs and my husband and with an iPad trying to do this show and now we're back in studio season three our live audience is back, and the vibe is slowly returning, but it's a new world, it's a new TV landscape, and we feel it, but we've responded to it, I think in a great way. One of the things about doing a show,

especially daily, is you're building an audience. You're building a connection with people, and then you just like takes everything off course. Was there a moment you were worried? Not in the sense of my show because I thought what were they going to put there? It was like, what are your options? Good luck with that. So I think it's the pandemic people. You're going to go shop for a new tau. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their moment. People their their their their their moment their moment their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their moment. their their moment. their moment. their moment. their moment. their moment. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. te. te. te. think so. So I wasn't worried about that aspect of it. I was worried about my team because you're now asking people to juggle their personal lives. I had, at the time, my son Moses was nine months old. And so you've got your personal life and now someone's asking you to show up for work

and something called a zoom in your home while the world stopped. But I think it even the world stopped. But I think it evened the playing field. And our show, at that time, was able to show something that I had, 30 years of a career as a journalist. Ooh, I love that. And so we were able to say, okay, now let's level up, what do we do?

And we transitioned to conversations like a woman, a woman whose husband had gone into the barber shop and got in c c she was the first national figure, really an unknown woman, to plead to black Americans, my community, your community, to get vaccinated. And she was on our show. And then we started interviewing people. We did COVID around the world, literally on an iPad where we went to Korea, India, all around the world where people were saying from their perspective. So it tapped into my days at MSNBC, my days of the journalist, and I think that gave us a leg up to survive and wake up executives who were uncertain about the show, to be honest. Right, right. I love that you, you seem to seamlessly use your life and your life experience to, I think to almost inspire whatever you're going to be doing. So, you, you, the, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and I's, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I's, and, I'm, I'm, so, so, somea, so, so, so, so, so, so, I'ma,a,a, so,a.a.a.a.a.a.a. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. th. th. to, I think to almost inspire whatever you're going to be doing. You know, so obviously from the journalism side, you know, you're a journalist. And then you've brought journalism into daytime. And I mean, you've won an Emmy.

Congratulations for doing that. I mean, that's an exciting achievement to have. And your book is no, you're a book. Tamron Hall as book, I was like, oh, okay, she's going to be writing about the news and she's going to be talking about this. A memoir. Right, it's going to be a memo. And I was like, no, she wrote a novel. Why did you not go with a memoir? Why did you not go with something current affairs driven?

Because it wasn't Show to building this talk show, which included Harvey Weinstein and all of these other stunning stories that I had encountered and I said you know I'm not ready for that. Before all of that drama happened, there was a story, two stories, in 1997 when I was a reporter in Dallas and then in Chicago, within that year I'd covered the deaths of two girls both 11 years old, one white, one black. When you're a reporter and you go get a picture of someone and they give you, the family says, okay, here's a picture for the news, and you have this little kid and you're

studying them and you start talking to friends and you're outside their school, or in the case in the neighborhood and people are teling you................... the their, their, their, their, th. th th th th th th th th th th th to to to th to to th to to, to, to to to to to to the their, to to to to to to to to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th their, their, their, th th thii. th thi. thrown throwne, toe, toe, toe, toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. their their their their their the are telling you how adorable and how wonderful she is. For me, the kind of person I am, I felt like I knew them. And from 97 until even now, it would play in my mind, being in front of that crime scene and what it was like, and they haunted me. And so I, before the pandemic started, it started meeting with publishers and telling them, there's a novel inside. I want to get rid of some of these demons, so to speak. Demons within the news media and within the conversation of missing people and how they're treated. And publishers really like the idea.

And I created this character Jordan Manning, my alter ego, if you will. She's Michael Jordan and Peyton Manning, which is how I got her name, you know, and I said, okay, how do I take this story in the direction that reveals what it's like to be a reporter to cover these. What is it like being a black woman in the newsroom when you're one of one or one or two? And weaving that all into this story in the landscape of Chicago. In the novel, you take us through a story that yes is fictitious, but the, but the, but the, thiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, and, is thi, and, and thi, is thi, thi, thi, thin, thi, togu, togu, togu, tha, tha, thau, is thi, is thi, no denying it talks to what's happening today and unfortunately it coincides with with a conversation in and around black girls who are going missing black women who have gone missing and and and people asking the questions about the how does the media choose which spotlight to use you know and and someone said tho the. They said tho the that the young girl story they're tho-so so so so so so so. And tho. And tho. And tho. And so. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi's tho. thi. thi. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the tho. the thoo I'm like, no, it's not about the not. It's about the, it's the why not as well.

Why do you think it is that so many black girls and so many black women aren't deemed to be a nationwide newsworthy story? I think we all know the answer to that, you know For a long time, I would tell people, wait a minute, black people aren't against police, or against police brutality. There are black police officers, and you put people in a trick bag when you say, oh, the minute you question police brutality,

you don't love police, or you don't like police, and they're in your neighborhood. It's a trick bag. It's a trick, th and th and th. So when someone says, wait a minute, are you saying, we shouldn't cover that case? That's a trick bag. And it's one that has been built by the media, and I've been a part of it for 30 years in watching this happen. With that case that you're referring to, Gabi Petito,

her family now have to stop and say, wait a minute, we want her covered, but we also want Jalani Day covered. And then Jalani Day's mother's on the other end, begging for a camera to just point her direction, to plead for where he is. But who's put them in the middle? And that's the hard question that we, as reporters, have to admit, who put them in the middle? We did. And why? Well, because traditionally news organizations were led by white men. And for so long, these things get passed

along. I don't think, I've never been in a newsroom where someone said, listen to Amhern, we're going to put the beautiful white girl. No one's ever said that, but the actions lead to that recent case I saw four and five cameras at one location here one locate you know much money that cost right and she and her family deserve that because God forbid my child was missing I want your whole newscast right and so you understand the desire of the parent to want that coverage but where is the responsibility and I do know and you and I both know journalists of color who are in the newsroom now saying it more right but more importantly to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.o.o. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the responsibility? And I do know, and you and I both know, journalists of color who are in the newsroom now saying it more,

but more importantly, are in powerful positions. They think the power is in front of the camera. And I go to schools and J schools and I talk to students. The power is not in front of the camera. That's why we want to be executive producers of our shows when you are an executive in charge of a newsroom or a news organization and you bring your perspective and your sensibility, that changes the newsroom and we're seeing that more. But I wrote this book a year and a half ago.

I could never have imagined we would be talking about this, but yet clearly I did imagine, but clearly I did imagine it because it's in the book. It's something that's happening now and unfortunately as you said it's something that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a thatthe book. It's something that's happening now and unfortunately, as you said, it's something that has happened to you. It's a really fascinating read, not just because of how it ties into who you want and what you've done, but just because it's a really fascinating read. So congratulations on your first novel. One of many. We'll have you back, to the next one. And congratulations, the world. too'lif-I I, the day, the day, the day, the day, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, not thi, not thi, not just because thi, not just because thi, not thi, not thi, not thi, not thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the, not the, not the, not the, the. the. thi. the. It's the. It's thea. It's thea. It's thea. It's thea. It's thea. It's thea. the. the. thank you. Tamron's book, As the Wicked Watch, is available right now. We're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television.

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