The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Infowars Shuts Down, Julian Assange Goes Free & China Visits Far Side of the Moon | Peter S. Goodman

Episode Date: June 26, 2024

Michael Kosta reports on WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s prison release, Alex Jones’s shameless cash grab as his conspiracy network Infowars shutters, and a new Surgeon General advisory warning against, uh, gun violence? Plus, China one-upped America’s lunar landing by visiting the far side of the moon and Josh Johnson shares some advice on how the U.S. can reassert its supremacy. Also, Lewis Black tackles big companies like Chick-fil-A and Apple, as well as fire departments and hospitals, expanding into the summer camp space. And, Peter S. Goodman, New York Times global economics correspondent and author of “How the World Ran Out of Everything: Inside the Global Supply Chain,” discusses American business and consumer reliance on a rickety supply chain, the need for anti-trust enforcement, and creating a more resilient supply chain that’s not just optimized for big box retailers and investors.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John Stewart here, unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show, we're going to be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Center, it's America's only source for news. This is the Daily Show with I'm Michael Costa. We've got so much to talk about tonight. Julian Assange is a free man. Alex Jones is a broke man. Alex Jones is a broke man and the Surgeon General is a broke man and the Surgeon General is warning America the gun violence is a bad. Who knew? Let's get into the headlines.

Let's kick things off with some big international news about a whistleblower. No, not the Boeing ones. They've all suddenly died under completely normal circumstances. I'm talking about one who got some good news. This morning, Julian Assange, who founded WikiLeaks and rocked governments around the world with it, is set to plead guilty in US federal court to a single felony charge in exchange for his freedom, ending the years-long legal saga around his explosive publication of US state secrets.

Assage, celebrated by some as a hero, reviled by others as a reckless vandal, published state secrets of country after country, none more damaging than the vast trove of U.S. classified documents WikiLeaks posted online, starting in 2010 at the height of U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's right. Wikileaks founder, and man who looks like he feeds James Bond to sharks, Julian Assange is out of prison. And like many of you, when I first heard the news, I thought, which one is he again? Because I thought he was Edward Snowden and then someone said, no, Edward Snowden is Edward Snowden, that's why they call him that, and that made sense to me. Now, Julian Assange is the one who spent a decade on the run for revealing war crimes committed by America in Iraq, even though the people who did those crimes weren't punished. It's all thanks to an obscure military doctrine known as snitches get stitches.

Let's be honest, a lot of the stuff he leaked, we already knew. America was doing bad shit in Iraq. the the D. the the their their th. thiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. It, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thoom-a, tho-a, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. We' is th. We' is th. We' is th. We' is th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is theeei. We's, is thei.ei. We'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a, thi, the stuff he leaked, we already knew. America was doing bad shit in Iraq. The DNC was in cahoots with Hillary's campaign. It's like how you kind of already knew that your wife was banging her tennis instructor, but it's nice to have it confirmed. By the way, in that example, I'm the tennis instructor. Now, some people think Assange is a villain for revealing state secrets, while others argue that the states shouldn't have had those secrets in the first place. But what irks me about Assange is that he didn't reveal any of the secrets I wanted to know.

He's going to dump literally millions of documents and not a single one was about aliens, or who killed JFK or why they never made a Forrest Gump sequel. I mean, I don't want 10 fast inferior sequels. I want to see Forrest Gump accidentally invent the Macarena, right? Yeah. Let's move on from a character that some love and some hate to a character who's much easier to judge, Alex Jones. Now, it's been a year and a half since the Boner Pillsbury Doboy was ordered to pay $1.5 billion to the Sandy Hook families, and now the repo man is pulling up at the door. Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is losing his media empire. Court-appointed trustee has laid out plans for shutting down Jones's info wars. The money will go towards the 1.5 billion dollars. Jones has been ordered to pay families families to pay. $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $1.5.5.5.5.5.5 billion.5 billion.5 billion.5 billion.5 billion.5 billion.5.5 billion.5.5.5 billion.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the to.5.5.5.5.5.5.5. to.5. to. the the the the the the to.5.5.5.5. to. to. to.. The money will go towards the $1.5 billion.

Jones has been ordered to pay families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims. He pushed the claim that the 2012 massacre wasn't real. The plan calls for winding down operations and then liquidating inventory. Oh no. Info Wars is dead. But how will I know which vaccines turn me gay? The good news here is that this shows that if you maliciously lie to the American people, you will be held accountable, like 0.3% of the time, and the rest of the time you'll be elected

president. But politics aside, I think we can all agree. It's a great day in America whenever a podcast ends. So it's been a rough final week for Jones, but he spent it doing what he loves. Jones spouted lies even as he drove to the hearing in Houston. It is all a brazen power gram. Leading up to the hearing, he had been vacillating between tears, more lies. That was the FBI and the Justice Department behind all these fake lawsuits against me to get me off the air. And naked opportunism, peddling supposed dietary supplements until the last moment.

If you order any products at InfoWore Store. You will get them before info wars is shut down. It's crazy that his listeners think the vaccine is going to kill them but then they spend hundreds of dollars on off-label weight loss supplements you know I don't want anything weird in my body that's why I take Bethel Polythtrazzol 15g and Tiger gut. By the way if you sad, you can no longer buy pills from the Info War Store, please consider purchasing Michael Costa's pills for a stronger brain or whatever. Just give me your money, you stupid piece of shit.

Thank you. Everyone loves a camera turn. Let's move on to some public health news. A lot of people don't know this, but getting shot is not good for your health. Luckily, America's top doctor is here to let you know. New this morning, a first of its kind advisory from the Surgeon General's office, declaring firearm violence an urgent public health crisis. The new advisory spells out just how pervasive firearm violence is and calls for the quote collective commitment of the nation to stop it. Yeah that should do

it. I thought the Surgeon General's warnings were supposed to be for things you can avoid. You know, you can choose not to smoke cigarettes. But no one's seeing this news like, you know, I was going to try to get shot this weekend, but now I'll change my plans. Sorry if I'm a bit skeptical. I know this guy's just trying to help. It's'm like, hey man, we know, all right? The surgeon general never tells us anything we don't already know. Like if he came out and just said, hey, just so you know,

peanut butter stays inside you forever, that's something that's helpful and I can take action now, right? And that's another thing. Why are we trusting a guy who calls himself the surgeon general? That sounds like a profession my four-year-old daughter makes up. Yeah, I want to be either a surgeon general or a ballerina dentist. It's like, you're just mashing two real jobs together, dummy. If we're going to have a US surgeon general, yeah, my daughter's a dummy sometimes. If we're going to have a US surgeon general, he needs to at least do one of tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho' tho' tho-a, thi thi. thi thi. Yeah, tho- tho- tho-a tho-y. Yeah, tho-y. Yeah, tho-y. Yeah, tho-a tho-a thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, th thi. Yeah, th. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. I thi. I thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. Yeah, I thi. Yeah, I daughter's a dummy sometimes. If we're going to have

a U.S. Surgeon General, he needs to at least do one of them, right? Either he's in charge of the President's surgeries or we give him an army. Then at least when you sign into social media, he can drone your house. Social media addiction solved. Finally, let's talk about the moon. We see it in the sky every night. But did you know the moon is the moon is the moon is the moon is the moon is also also also also also also also also also also also. the moon is also. the moon is also. A the moon is also. A the moon is also. A the moon is also. A the moon is also. A the moon. A the moon. A the moon. A tooes. A tooes. A toea. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. A. S. S. S. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. talk about the moon. We see it in the sky every night. But did you know the moon is also in other countries? Well it is. And now some of them are taking notice. China is now the first country to ever bring back samples from the far side of the moon. This lunar probe just completed its historic mission, retrieving samples of dust and rock from the side of the moon facing away from the Earth.

Chinese scientists anticipate the return samples will include volcanic rock. That's over 2 million years old. A major difference to samples collected by astronauts during the Apollo missions. Holy shit, you know? China's the first one to visit the far side of the moon, which, if you don't know, is the part of the moon the the the the the moon the the moon the the moon the moon the the moon, which if you don't know is the part of the moon the earth Never sees because the moon, okay, it's spinning while the earth, okay, it's turning like in my head is China and it You guys get it? Anyway, China did it? So now there are three different flags planted on the moon the Chinese flag the United States flag and that flag? that? that. th? th? th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thate the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha thauua tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha th now there are three different flags planted on the moon. The Chinese flag, the United States flag,

and that flag from San Alito's wife. So the woman loves flags. For more on China's landing on the moon, we go live to Cape Canaveral with Josh Johnson. Yeah. Josh, this is a huge scientific achievement. China is the first country to reach the far side of the moon. What does this mean? I'll tell you what it means, Michael.

It means America's got to get back to the moon, all right? Someone call Neil Armstrong, or Lance Armstrong, or Lance Bass, one of them. But why do we have to get back to the moon? Because the moon is the only thing thi the the only the only the only the only thi thi the only thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the thi thi the the the thi thi thi thi th is thi th is th is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thii. thiii. thii. the thii. the the the thi. why do we have to get back to the Moon? Because the Moon is the only thing America has left. We don't have the best cars anymore. We don't have the best democracy anymore. Even the best basketball players are from like Slovakistan. You know?

All we have left is the Moon. And now Chi is taken that from us too? No. No, as a matter of national pride, we're going back. Okay, so we're gonna build a whole new Moon program. That's gonna be expensive as hell. Oh yeah, it's gonna bankrupt us, all right? We gotta cancel Medicare and education immediately, okay? Sorry kids, you can't read good no more, but you can take pride knowing America is the best at moon. Okay, so... so we're gonna blow up our budget, to show that's th be th be th be th be th be th be th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin thin thin' thin' thin' that's that's that's that's that's that's gonna be expensive that's gonna be expensive that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be America is the best at moon. Okay, so we're gonna blow up our budget just to show China that we can also collect moon dirt? No, man, come on, we're not going up there to do that nerd shit. We're going up there to knock their flag down.

What? Josh, Josh, Josh, If we knock their flag down, you're going to start a war. No, no, no, Costa Chill. What's going to start the war is when our astronauts knock it down with their dicks, all right? Like, baa, baa, bough, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow. This is a, right?

Down. This is a terrible idea. For starters, taking your dick out on the moon, it's going to make it explode. I know. But it's the only way to show China we're still the big dogs. Okay, but John, we've already been to the moon. We're focused on Mars now. Not anymore. The moon is our girl. Okay, we've been together since the 60s. Mars was just a side piece. All right. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. th. th. to. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to.............................................................. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the.. the. the. the. the. the. the. the.together since the 60s. Mars was just a side piece, all right? And now China is trying to take our girl behind our back and in our face.

We can't let that happen. And that's why I'm here at the launching pad. What? What? What? I'm gonna go win the moon back. Josh no don't go to the you're not qualified to go up Josh Come back Josh to touch Listen moon yeah with Mars and you let someone else get your rocks all. But we're together now, baby, and America's never going to leave you again.

Now let me get up in the craters. Josh, Josh, wait, Josh, don't take your dick out. Josh, Josh. I think his dick exploded. I think his dick exploded. I tried to warn him. Josh Johnson, everybody. What? Dick exploded. When we come back, Louis Black, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, th, th, th, th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th's th's th's tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi's tho, tho, th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's tho, and America's th's th's th's th, and America's th, and America's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's tho, thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo' thoo' tho' tho' tha, th exploded. I tried to warn him. Josh Johnson, everybody. What? Is Dick exploded? When we come back, Lewis Black will be on the show joining me. Don't go away. Josh!

Josh! Yeah! Josh! Yeah! the week. to betell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about

ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, where, every, every, every, every, every, every, thi, every, thi, thi, the, the weekly, the weekly, the, the, the weekly, the, the weekly, the, the, the weekly, the, the, the, the weekly, the weekly, the, the weekly the, the, the, every the, every the, every the, every the, every out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out the weekly, the weekly show, the weekly show, the weekly show, the weekly show, the weekly show, the weekly show, the weekly show, the weekly show, the weekly show, the weekly show, the weekly show, the weekly show, the weekly show, every the weekly show, every the weekly show, every the weekly show, every the weekly show, every the weekly show, every the weekly show, every the weekly show, their, as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. When a new story falls through the cracks, Lewis Black catches it for a segment we call, Back in Black. When a new story falls through the cracks, Lewis Black catches it for a segment we call Back in Black. Ah, summer. When my balls glue themselves to my thigh and don't let go until Labor Day.

And if you're a kid, it means going to camp. Summer camp. to be about playing sports, making their tie. And if you're a kid, it means going to camp. Summer camp used to be about playing sports, making friends, and if you're lucky, finding a dead body. But for parents who think it's time for their five-year-old to start focusing on a career, there are a few camps just for them, like this one.

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grease burns. And the best part about chick-fil-A camp is it only costs $35. What a bargain! I mean, for $35, you can't even find a babysitter on the terror watch list. Even Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was $40 an hour, and he didn't even change diapers. But if that's still too steep a price tag, you can always bring them for free to the company who's basically raising them anyway, Apple. For over 20 years now, Apple stores have hosted Apple Camp. This is where kids and their parents can get creative on the latest Apple devices. This year's session focuses on

using the iPad to create an interactive storybook. They're creating animations, they're adding AR shapes, 3D shapes, taking AR photos where they place the 3D shapes in the world around them. Oh thank God! Just what our children need. More screen time! I hope they'll use these iPads on planes at full volume while I contemplate getting a second besectomy. Better safe than sorry. I will say these Apple camps seem way nicer than the ones in China. I mean for starters the kids get to leave. Oh stop it! Seriously, wake up! For starters, the kids get to leave. Oh, stop it.

Seriously, wake up! How do you moan over that? Unbelievable. But maybe I'm judging too quickly. Who knows these camps could be fostering the storytellers of tomorrow? It's basically a donut that plays baseball, but the ball always goes through his hole. So this friend helps him put like a net in his, in the whole part, so the ball doesn't go through. This girl could write the next great animated film, but if you dare touch the opening weekend of Inside Up 3, I'll sue the shit out of you.

Follow your dreams, but stay away from daddy's gravy train. But if the fryulator and ADHD don't do it for your child, there are some camps that teach actual skills. The Wichita Fire Department gave young people the opportunity to experience what it's like to be a firefighter. It's hosting a kids summer camp and the fun kicked off yesterday. This year's summer camped introduces them to the roles and responsibilities of the fire department with up close and hands-on experience. Campers, ages 8 to 13, will get a view of firefighting tasks like pulling hose, spraying water, forcible entry and to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to 13, we'll get a view of firefighting tasks like pulling hose, spraying water,

forcible entry, and rescue. First of all, I don't think you need a camp to teach teen boys how to pull hose. I mean, they tend to figure it out on their own. By the way, firefighter camp is just like police camp, but with more cardio and less framing people for murder. I admire these kids, but they better not show up when I burn down my Panama City condo for the insurance money. Stay away from Daddy's other gravy train, your little life-saving shit.

But a firefighting camp sounds like too much fun. Don't worry, you've still got options. At this summer camp, you should be able to hear one sounds. Middle schoolers take care of baby Torrey, a $75,000 high fidelity simulator. And there's also. So pick your poison. Do you want to dress a wound or build a body? Baycare's Diane Roush, Camp Nurse, Jr.

At Dunedin's Sally L. Bailey Nursing Education Center is not your typical teenage summer fun. Here they're learning about patient care and broken bones and CPR and more. For Camila and Ellie and dozens of others, this might be their future. What the fucking stop? Is that supposed to be a baby? It looks like someone knocked up Megan. Somebody send that thing to the Supreme Court and we'll have abortion back in no time.

But of course, there's also one very affordable summer program that parents are forgetting about. But of course, there's also one very affordable summer program that parents are forgetting about, ignoring your kids and letting them off for three months. You know, watch TV, kick rocks, and maybe even pull some hose. That's how I spent my summers as a kid, and look how I turned out. Back to you, Michael. Thanks for that. Lewis, Lewis Black, everyone, and we come back. Peter Goodman will be joining me on the show, so don't go away. John Stewart here. Unbelievably exciting news.

My new podcast, The Weekly Show. We're going to be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. Listen to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is a global economics correspondent for the New York Times, an author of the new book, How the World Ran Out of Everything, inside the global supply chain. Please welcome Peter Goodman. Yes. How the world ran out of everything. During COVID, we ran out of everything. During COVID, we ran out of toilet paper. Sure did. Baby formula, computer chips. We had cars that were ready to run but no computer chips.

tips. the thears. that were ready to run, but no computer chips. What the fuck happened? And did we fix it? We have not fixed it. I'm sorry to say, the vulnerabilities are still there. What happened was a reveal of something that had been there for decades. We are dependent upon this really improvised ad hoc, rickety supply chain.

It's really a bunch of supply chains. We've been devoted to this kind of reckless, ruthless form of deregulation. And during the pandemic, just as we were in our darkest hour of need, it buckled. And yeah, we ran out a lot of stuff. When I was reading your book, I kept asking myself the same question, which was, why don't we just make this shit here? Yeah.

Why aren't we making all of the shit here? Well, but you answer that, but explain it, explain to me again. We could make more things here, and there's a movement to make more things here, and that's helpful. It's in the margins, but we're not going back to self-sufficiency. Look, if there was no trade, you and me wouldn't be having this conversation. We'd be out trying to feed our families with bark or whatever, right? And you know, I'm not that good at growing food, I'm sure you're not either. So here we are. We're dependent upon a global supply chain. to, Peter. I. to, Peter. to, Peter. to, Peter. to, Peter. to, Peter. to, Peter. to, Peter. to, Peter. to, Peter. to, Peter. to, Peter. to, Peter. to, Peter. topip. to, to, to, they. they. they. the the the the the the the to be. the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. We're the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. We're, their. We're, their, their. We're, their. th. the. the. theat. th. theat th. th. toooooooooooooooooooooome. Wea. We're th. We're th. We're th. We in the wind last night in my rooftop garden, but... Good luck with that.

Yeah, so good luck. Yeah, I don't want to try to feed my family through my own labor. So we have trade, and we've got a lot of jobs in this country that are dependent upon a global supply chain. And it's been a consumer bonaza. We've just done a very poor job cushioning the people who've lost jobs, we don't need to throw out globalization. We need to reconfigure it. We need sensible regulations. We need working people to get more of a piece of the action.

So we have a more reliable supply chain. You tell the story in the book about one company that is and he wants to actually use American manufacturing but can't find American manufacturers to do it. Right, I mean he calls around, these are these, I follow this one container from a factory in China to the west coast of the United States and then across the continent to Starkville, Mississippi where his warehouse is based. He couldn't find somebody to make the molds for these products unless he paid 12 times as much as the price in China. You try to get somebody to make a kind of children's pop-up book style package

for his product. And he was told, this is too complicated, go make this in China. It was the path of least resistance. You follow this patthearer. This container from China all the is the path it takes. I mean, it is. It's a harrowing journey. And as an American that buys a lot of stuff, I'm going, holy shit, I didn't know that all this happened. I just press click. And then it shows up.

Yeah, well, then it worked. Yeah. Do I do we need to buy less dumb shit? Yeah. Do we need to buy less dumb shit? to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to to to th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. th. th. intellectual question. Do we need to buy less dumb shit? It's a legitimate question. Look, I rode for three days with a long-haul truck driver from Kansas City to Dallas and back to try to understand. That sounds like my worst nightmare. It's everyone's worst nightmare, which is why we don't have enough truck drivers. And the best part of that moment, we're somewhere in Oklahoma, and this this this truck, the window and he says, people just buy too much the word you just used.

And yeah, we could do well thinking more carefully about what we buy and what we need. But let's face it, like we're going to keep making stuff, we're going to keep consuming stuff. The question is, are we going to have a more resilient supply chain or one that's just optimized for basically big box retailers and investors? Because's what we've had now for decades. I had before reading your book I had always kind of seen China as this aggressor that has taken American jobs and manufacturing and do you feel that's the case? Is that an accurate portrayal of China? I think what you painted the picture so well in here was that it's American business executives that are saying we can make more money.

It's not the American worker that's saying this. It's the executives. Why did factory jobs move to China? Yeah. Because publicly traded corporations governed by the imperative to lower their costs and produce lower-price products but fattened their margins as well. They sent production to China, they were encouraged to go there by the investor class and it worked out really well for them.

And look, this is an old story, right? Chinese labor was brought in to build the railroads in the United States. Yeah, and Walmart, going to the People's Republic of China, that's just a continuation of the old story of basically undercutting American labor unions, undercutting American working people. These are decisions, you know, the hollowing out of our factory towns that are not made in Beijing. These are decisions made in boardrooms in New York, in Seattle, in Congress. It's not always portrayed that way. You know, it's portrayed as there's China taking our economy. Right.

But what we have a big debate coming up Thursday night. Trump, and correct me if I'm wrong, but Trump puts some tariffs on China and Biden has kept a lot of those tariffs? Has advanced them. What can we expect when this question comes up Thursday night, where do they stand on it? You know, I don't know how much nuance there will be in that debate, but let's face it. There are very few things. I think we all know how much nuance there'll be in that debate. There are not many things that garner agreement in American politics, but one of them, unfortunately, is the sort of cartoonish depiction of China as this job-killing, juggernaut, without any of the details that we've already discussed here.

I mean, I think in terms of the differences between these two candidates, Donald Trump is a threat to the global supply chain. He's proud to be a threat to the global supply chain. He likes the photo of of slaught tariffs on steel and mugging for the cameras with steel workers going back to work. Never mind that there are six to eight times as many people who go to work at factories in America that buy steel as there are people who make steel. So those companies are less competitive. Now Biden is also bashing China. This is a bipartisan initiative, but it's a much more nuanced kind of

industrial policy. It's less about containing China's rise. I mean Trump is really about let's have a cold war with China. Biden is more about let's embrace industrial policy. Let's try to make electric vehicles in the US. These are these are some significant differences. I was in Vermont this weekend performing. I eat a lot of ice cream in my life. I wanted to go see the Ben and Jerry's ice cream factory where it all started. These were two men in 1978 who started making ice cream out of a gas station. Right. And then as I kind of dug into it I was also reading your book, it's kind of a perfect tie-in I realized oh they sold the company to Unilever in year 2000.

And all of a sudden, these two men who really care about keeping things local, who really cared about social issues, it felt like the big evil corporation was constantly pushing back against them and was constantly looking at profit margins. Is there something that I can feel optimistic about? Is capitalism always just defeat us in these two little Ben and Jerry Man scooping fish? I don't think it's capitalism. I mean, you know, the people who benefit from the status quo would have us believe that regulating and taxing and enforcing antitrust laws.

We might as well, you know, be advocating Venezuela style, you know. I mean, it's just nonsensical, right? Capitalism needs markets. Markets need regulation. They can't function with that. But in terms of what we can do, you know, consumers are not going to save us from the vulnerabilities in the global economy. We're busy dealing with our age.

So I can keep buying plastic shit for my four-year-old daughter on Amazon. I'm not, I'm not take any trust enforcement, labor mobilization, so that working people get a piece of the action. So they're less likely to quit their jobs in the middle of a pandemic. I mean, you know, Henry Ford, problematic character, knew a thing or two about making things in the supply chain. You know, he said explicitly as he raised wages for workers in 2014 and was called a communist by some reason. I just want to make things reliably

any business that's premised on low-wage labor is inherently unstable. Right. And that's where we're at right now. It feels like. I mean, normalcy is built on this idea that huge numbers of people have to do dangerous jobs, away from their families, with little control or understanding about their schedules, and they just have to suck that up for their families with little control or understanding about their schedules, and they just have to suck that up for the benefit of our sort of just-in-time, ruthlessly efficient, that turns out not to be so efficient, global economy. You personally, that I can steal from you, what can I do, what do you do, what any habits of yours that have changed since researching and writing this? Yeah, I mean, I try to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just just just just just, just just just, just just, just just just, just just, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, just-s, just-s, just-s, Yeah, I mean, I try to give my business to people who are actually in control of their businesses.

I mean, if you're mostly transacting with big companies that are answerable to Wall Street, then you're ultimately transacting with entities that are thinking about shareholder interests. Above all, they can't afford to be kind to their competitors aren't. They can't afford to think about keeping production local. They can't think about the highest quality ingredients and they can't think beyond the next quarter. So certainly local, small production. But again, consumers are not going to save us from the vulnerability and the global supply chain. It's going to take regulation,

it's going to take labor mobilization. But it helps to know that my $14 strawberries at the farmers market is probably going to better use than the $9 strawberries at the Amazon. You need to shop somewhere else. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. These are the celebrity prices that I get. How the world ran out of everything is available now.

Peter Goodman everybody. Thank you. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Thank you. Bye. Thank you. Good. Thank you.

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