The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Iran's Restrained Revenge and Fox News's Warmongers | Mo Rocca

Episode Date: January 9, 2020

Michael Kosta calls for unnecessary escalation in Iran, Trevor highlights laws taking effect in 2020, and "CBS Sunday Morning" correspondent Mo Rocca discusses "Mobituaries." Learn more about your ad...-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 January 8, 2020. From Comedy Central's World News Headquarters in New York. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah, for coming out. Thank you. Thank you. Let's make a show. Let's do it, people. I'm Trevor Noah. Our guest tonight is an old friend of the Daily Show who is now an author and a correspondent for CBS Sunday morning. More Rokker is joining us everybody. Also on tonight's show, America is getting a new prince. Your snacks have been lying to you. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. th. Thank. th. Thank. Thank. th. Thank. th. Thank. th. th. Thank. Thank. th. Thank. th. th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank you, th. Thank you, th. Thank you, th. Thank you, th. Thank, th. Thank you, th. Thank you, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, th. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank, to. Thank you, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. Thank you, America is getting a new prince. Your snacks have been lying to you, and Donald Trump heroically stops the war that he started. So let's catch up on today's headlines. Let's kick it off with some big news from across the pond.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Being a member of the royal family has always been one of the sweetest gigs you can have. You get an unlimited budget for hats. There's always free crumpets in the break room, and let's be honest, most of your job is just waving. But now, two royal family members are turning in their two-week notice. There was a rather stunning announcement today from across the pond. Prince Harry and wife Megan Markle say they're stepping away as senior me me the royal family. They announced it on Instagram and boy, social media is blowing up over it. The couple made that announcement saying they'll split their time between the UK and North America and they will work to become financially independent.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Whoa, whoa. This is huge. Harry and Megan are leaving the palace to become financially independent. And you see, you see, this is what happens when the the the the the the the the the the the th is thia is thia is thia is thia is thi is thi is thi is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi. thi. tho tho tho tho tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the theeeee. thee. the. the. the. the thooo th palace to become financially independent. And you see, you see, this is what happens when you bring the first black woman into the royal family. Yeah, yeah. She looked at Harry and she's like, nigga, you need to get a job. You need a job. You a grown-ass man. You can't still be living in your mama's house, Harry. What's funny is that no matter what job Prince Harry gets, you realize he's still going to be Prince Harry, right? Can you imagine being his boss when he screws up? Like, what do you call him in and say,
Starting point is 00:02:57 Prince Harry, get in here, your majesty! You blew the Henderson account, my lord. Clean out your desk and make God save the Queen? Now the big question is, if Harry Harry Harry Harry Harry Harry Harry Harry Harry if Harry if Harry if Harry if Harry if Harry if Harry if Harry if Harry if Harry if Harry if Harry if Harry if Harry thia thii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, if Hary they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. What thi. What thi. What thi, my lord. Clean out your desk and make God save the Queen! Now the big question is, if Harry and Megan come to America, where they're gonna live? Everyone wants to know. I think they'll move to LA because Megan is an actor, right? And then she's gonna want to work again, and then Harry can just join the cast of reales of Beverly Hills. Yeah. Just be like fighting on to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to the to to to to the to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi... thi. ti. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. thii. thi. their their their, moving on to the opposite of royalty. Harvey Weinstein, disgraced Hollywood producer,
Starting point is 00:03:28 and man who's somehow uglier on the inside. His sexual assault trial has just begun here in New York, and Harvey is already on the judge's bad side. Jury selection in Harvey Weinstein's sexual assault trial resumed after some drama in court. The judge threatened to revoke the Hollywood producer's bail Tuesday because he kept using his phone in court. The judge said, quote, is this really the way you want to end up in jail by texting? Wienstein's team calls it a misunderstanding. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:56 Harvey Weinstein got into trouble yesterday because he kept pulling his phone out in court. Yeah, because apparently he can't keep anything in his pants. I actually feel bad for the judge in the situation because you have to uphold the law but then also be a middle school teacher. You know, I was just like, are you texting, give me a phone? You spit out your gum. And damn it I told you to stop jerking off, Harvey, come on. I will tell you, this is how you know phones are thau, thwhoves, though. This guy's on trial for his life and he's sitting in that courtroom like I could go to prison forever. Yeah, oh I wonder what Disney character I am. Let's see. Oh, Ursula, I should have known. And finally, what would you do if you were walking down the street and heard someone
Starting point is 00:04:37 screaming for help? Well don't rush to call the cops because it may not be what you think. The concerned neighbor in Florida called 911 after hearing someone screaming, Let Me Out. Turns out the cries were from a pet parrot. The parrot's owner says sheriff's deputies pulled up to his house after getting the call. He explained that the culprit was his 40-year-old parrot named Rambo. When he showed them the parrot, he says they burst out laughing. The owner says that he taught Rambo to say, let me out when he was a kid.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Okay, hold on. So this dude says he taught his parrot to scream, let me out. And the cops just accepted that? You guys don't want to look in the house just in case? Because that bird might have picked it up from someone else, if you know what I mean. Yeah, the parrot's like, wow, let me out! It's like, ha ha ha! I taught him how to say that. I'm in the basement.
Starting point is 00:05:36 You see, it's not when I was kidnapped by a parrot with a parrot, Although, wouldn't it be a funny twist if the cops arrested that guy, but it turns out that the parrot was just framing him so that it could have the house to itself? Yeah, now the owner's in prison and the bird is throwing all night parties, just hanging out with women, you know, just like, wow? Hello, ladies? It's like, wow, I've never met a parrot who owns a house, whaq, that's right? I'm like Harry, I've got my own crib, wha! All right, that's it for the headlines, let's move on to our top story. So, over the past 24 hours, we've seen huge developments in the conflict between the U.S. and Iran. So let's catch up on all the latest in our ongoing segment, War in the Middle East.
Starting point is 00:06:22 This time, it's Persianal. It's no exaggeration to say the world has been on edge ever since the United States killed Kassim Soleimani, Iranian general and evil Sean Connery. And everyone was wondering how Iran would respond. Well last night, we found out. Overnight, Iran taking revenge, launching a barrage of missiles, targeting two US military bases and coalition troops in Iraq. This Iran said was its vengeance
Starting point is 00:06:58 for the US's killing of its top general. There were at least two waves of attacks. Then Iran's foreign minister tweeted, his country was ready to step back. if there was there was the the the the the there was there was there was there was there was there was there was no there was no there was no there was no there was no there was no there was no their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. thea. theaq. thiaq. thiaq. thiaq. thiaq. their. their. their. their. thiaaaaaq. thia. thia. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thia. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. theauu theau theau thiau theau theau thiau thiau thiau thiau thiau two waves of attacks, then Iran's foreign minister tweeted, his country was ready to step back, if there was no American counterattack. And this morning, no reports of U.S., coalition, or Iraqi casualties. We've just heard from the Iraqi Prime Minister's office that they did indeed receive notification from the Iranians that there would be a strike. That was a full five hours and 45 minutes before those missiles came in. That's right.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Last night, Iran launched 15 missiles at American forces in Iraq. But in an interesting twist, they killed no one, hurt no one, and gave the Iraqi bases a six hour heads up, which is a lot of warning. It's almost like they were sitting there like, let's give them one hour notice. It's like, it, it, it, it, it, it, but, but, but, but, but, but, the, the, the, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thi. And, thi's thiiiiii. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi's thi. almost like they were sitting there like let's give them one hour notice It's like, but sir, what if they're watching the Irishman? Okay Six hours give them six hours
Starting point is 00:07:51 They need time So Iran fired 15 missiles gave one giant warning and basically missed everything which most people agree means that Iran wants this thing to go away? They wanted to respond to you then to the United States in a way that would let that th th th th th th th th th th th th th, th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thing to go away. They wanted to respond to the United States in a way that would let them keep their pride, but then also not in a way that would escalate this conflict into a war. In fact, in international diplomacy, this type of action is known as a, hold me back, and clearly it worked. Because after the missile attack, President Trump sent out a tweet saying, all is well. Which was hilarious, because the tweet was composed like Trump was writing a letter from the front lines of the civil wall. My dearest Twitter, all is well.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Missile's launch from Iran. So far, so good. I hope to see you soon. Please kiss Ivanka for me and not Eric. Sincerely Donald, hashtag MAGA, hashtag, with their decision, and today the president addressed the nation to give everybody an update. And I'm not going to lie,, Iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Good morning. Okay, okay. Is it just me or did Trump find a way to make this national address sound like the beginning of an infomercial? Yeah? Iran will never have nuclear weapons. Hi, I'm Donald Trump. Tired of missile strikes when you aren't even home? So a really weird start, but fortunately, once Trump got into the meat of his speech, he reassured everybody that at least for the moment, the beef with Iran has been squashed. Iran appears to be standing down,
Starting point is 00:10:18 which is a good thing for all parties concerned and a very good thing for the world. The civilized world must send a clear and unified message to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the to the for the world. The civilized world must send a clear and unified message to the Iranian regime. Your campaign of terror murder mayhem will not be tolerated any longer. These historic accompelage shades are strategic priorities. Ah. What was that? Tolerated? A compliment shades?
Starting point is 00:10:50 Trump's mouth was missing more targets than those Iranian missiles. And now, personally, honestly, I'm glad that Iran and Donald Trump seem to have agreed to let things settle down. Because Trump got what he wanted, killed the general and it didn't escalate into anything. This is a win for him. But I pray, I pray that Donald Trump doesn't start watching Fox News again anytime soon, because for them, all is not well. They're going to get hit hard. Their hostility will now be met with the full force of the greatest, most advanced, most sophisticated military this world has ever seen. This president will unleash holy hell on that regime.
Starting point is 00:11:34 The mullahs only understand one language, and that's the language of death. Sadly, if death is what we have to give them to stop this, then sadly that's what we have to do. Number one, target not just the oil, but the launch launch launch launch launch launch launch launch launch launch launch launch launch launch launch launch launch launch launch the launch the launch the launch the launch the launch them to stop this, then sadly that's what we have to do. Number one, target not just the oil, but target the launch sites that fired those 15 missiles today. Ollie North is right. It is oil refineries, oil infrastructure. It is key missile sites. It's nuclear development sites.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Throw in some ports, key infrastructure. And you know what? Why not a kud's headquarters for for good nature on top of it. What? Throw in some ports and infrastructure while you're at? This is wild. This dude is just adding bombing targets like he's making impulse buys at the register. You know what? Throw in chapstick and snickers and a drone strike in an airport because Daddy got paid! Seriously what the hell is going on at Fox? America drone a general. They killed someone, killed multiple people in fact. And Iran responded with warning shots.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Nobody got killed. Why would anyone want more violence after that? It doesn't make sense. So to help us find out, we're joined by our senior war correspondent, Michael Costa everybody. Michael, this is so confusing right now. Why on earth are there still people who want to go to war with Iran with their their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to to their to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their one their one, their one, their one, their one, their one, their one, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their, their their their their their their their, their, their, thi.. I will will. Ia' thiiiiia' thiia'n. Ia'n. I'n'n. I'n'n'n'n, their, their, their so confusing right now. Why on earth are there still people who want to go to war with Iran when they've clearly tapped out of the fight? Well, because you see, Trevor, bombing Iran is America's only option.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Iranians don't speak the language of peace. The only words these people understand are, boom, kapow, blah, he got me, tell my hot Persian wife she can remarry Michael Costa. Oh, Michael, I'm so glad I'm with you now. Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop that. Michael, that's not true, though. It's not true. Iran went out of their way to not kill anybody. Yeah, all the more wasn't supposed to spend my Tuesday night cowering in my studio apartment. I was supposed to spend it cheating at bar trivia.
Starting point is 00:13:28 The trick is to look at your phone. Wait, Costa, you're saying the US should bomb Iran if they escalate? But then you're saying that they should bomb Iran if they de-escalate. Now you're getting it. Look, that might be your position, but luckily today, the president said he wants to get Iran back to the negotiating table. Okay, yes, and the negotiating table is the perfect place for a surprise bomb, okay? We're ready for peace, just kidding. Boom! Ah! Costa can marry my wife too! Michael, you're really eager to fight a war in the Middle East, it seems. Well, not me, Trevor.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I wouldn't say this shit if I had to go fight. You know, this is how it is on the news. We just talk and other people go do the fighting. Plus, I'm not a fighter. I'm a lover of Persian women. Oh, Michael, Michael, I'm so sorry about what. thin' to go to prison room? What? You want them to die something that's such a pressure? That's it?
Starting point is 00:14:29 When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes a second So, it's a new year, which means many laws that were passed last year are now going
Starting point is 00:15:11 into effect. So tonight, we're going to take a look at some of the laws you need to know about in our ongoing segment. New laws, who this? First up, Arkansas. First up, Arkansas. It's one of the top 50 states in America. And now, a new law there is shaking up the world of science. The natural state is taking a stance against human cloning.
Starting point is 00:15:38 A new law in Arkansas bans public funding for human cloning or destructive embryo research, the penalty, a class A misdemeanor and $1,000 fine. Oh, sorry people of Arkansas. New Year, no new you. That's right. If you try to do human cloning in Arkansas, you will face a $1,000 fine, which doesn't seem like enough to stop someone from doing it, I'm not going to lie. I don't know if there's a mad scientist somewhere who's like, my clone army will take over the world.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Wait, a thousand dollars? Maa! Forget it. I'll go back to the car wash. For real, $1,000 is not much of a fine to get a clone. Like, especially if you can just split the fine with your clone, then it's half. You know who I really feel bad for? the twins in Arkansas. Yeah, because the cops are going to be stopping them all the time. Like, we don't take to clones around here. It's like, no, we were born this way and prove
Starting point is 00:16:28 it. Describe your mom's vagina. But the new laws of 2020 aren't just about what you can do with your body. Some of them are also about what you are putting into it. On New Year's the the FDA's new nutrition labeling thrills the rules rules rules rules rules rules rules rules rules rules rules, the their thape, th. th. It's th. It's, th. The th. The th. The th. The th. The th. The th. The th. The th. The th. The th. The th. th. th. th. The th. The the, th. th. to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, t, t. And, t. And, t. And, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, the the the tha-a, the the the. And, the the the the thea. And, the the thea. And, the thea. And, tha. And, tha. And, the FDA's new nutrition labeling rules kicked in, launching a host of changes to the way that manufacturers are required to label package foods. One of the biggest changes that you'll notice requires large food manufacturers to list two different columns on the nutrition labels for their products. So one listing the nutrition facts for a single entire package. So think, bag of chips, pint of ice cream, anything not good for that New Year's resolution. Yes. Yes. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Thank you. This has been pissing me off for so long. How you going to put the serving, and the bag is another serving. Like, I picked up a bag. Tha th five servings per bag. What the hell? Why would you put five servings into one bag? What do you think I'm gonna call four of my friends? I'm like, you guys want to come over? I've got a bag of chips. But even with the new label,
Starting point is 00:17:34 a lot of people don't even understand what calories mean. So I think they need to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give to give their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thii. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom. their their the food. Yeah. How many pimples you'll get the next day. Maybe like a scratch and sniff label to let you know how your farts will smell after you eat the food. Yeah? So you can be like, ugh, goddame. Now I'm still gonna eat them. Now, I'm still gonna to eat them. I try and the-o'l-the's the their their their their their their their their their their their their their, wow, two servings of douchebag. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Well, I can work with that. I can work with it. And finally, while the FDA is working to be more transparent, New Jersey has a new law allowing some things to stay private. 18 new laws going to affect in New Jersey this year. One of us talked about about is a law barring employers from using salary history to screen potential workers. The bill's sponsors says employers were previously able to ask about salary history, which they argue perpetuated a wage gap, that favorite men over women.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Okay, now this is actually a great law. Because you see, before this, instead of paying people based on their previous earnings, that, their the, their than't their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their job... their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their................... t t t t t t t t t t t t t t tt t today. today's, t today's, tt today, t t today, t today's, t today's, today. t paying people based on their previous earnings, which was suppressing especially women's wages. You don't get paid well, you go to the next job, they're like, how much were you paid? We'll pay you the same but a little bit more. The wage gap just continue to grow. But now, bosses can't ask that question. I bet they're going to find ways to try, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're, you're, you know, you're, you, you, you, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you. tho, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you're thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi? No, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Can you start on Monday? Okay. So hopefully this new law will help a lot of people, because your past salary shouldn't determine what you get in the future. I mean, imagine if that happened with other things in life. Like, when you get into a new relationship, they negotiate based on your previous, you know You'd be like so my ex only lasted two minutes in bed We're like okay. Well great. I'll bump that up to three and a half is that good? Yeah? We'll be right back to
Starting point is 00:19:32 the tree theymeat the treaty When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at.
Starting point is 00:20:01 That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, A Second Look on Apple Podcasts, starting September 17. My guest tonight is a correspondent for CBS Sunday Morning and a best-selling author whose latest book is called Mobituaries, Great Lives Worth Reliving. Please welcome, Mooraca. Welcome to the show. Well, thank you.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And congratulations on another book. Oh, love it from this perspective. Wel thank you. And congratulations on another book. Another book, that's right. Thank you for remembering. What's fascinating is you wrote a book, before this there was a smash hit.
Starting point is 00:20:55 It was about presidents and their pets, right? That's right. And then, um... Smash hit part, but okay. It was, yes, about presidential it did very well for a book about presidents and their pet it was the best performing presidents and their pets exactly thank you that's a hit in my book yeah right and you didn't do that thrown try that truke that thrown the tea thap, that is true that he the first president to not have a pet in the White House house. Chester Alan Arthur burned all of his papers, so we don't know for sure that he
Starting point is 00:21:25 had pets, but my understanding is he had a goldfish. I'm not making this up. But Donald Trump does not have a pet. Right. Miller-Fillmore also didn't have a pet, but he was the vice president of the ASPCA for the Buffalo chapter when he left the White House, so that counts. What I always find really freakish about you is that you just have all of this information in your head. You're like a presidential buff. You just love information about any trivia about presidents. Yeah, I love presidential factoids. And I grew up outside of Washington DC. And seriously when you grow up in the D.C. area, sort of, the president is kind of the above the title film star. I imagine it's the equivalent of growing up in LA and looking through the paramount gates,
Starting point is 00:22:14 in a way. But so I've always been kind of fascinated in the presidency. This book is interesting though because you wrote about people in this book. It's like Mobituaries, which is a play on your name, but obituaries as well, great lives worth reliving. You went with all of the people who we almost wouldn't know about, you know? So it's not about Jimmy Carter. It's about someone in Jimmy Carter's family. You know, it's not about Rosa Parks. It's about another woman of color, a black woman who decided to ride on a tramramramramamamam, train, train, train, train, t, t, t, and t, and t, and t, and t, and t, t, t, t, t, t, their, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to, th, to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thr-s...... thr-a. toooooooooooo, tooooooooooooo, thi, thi, thi allowed to and it was all white. It's like, why did you choose these characters? How did you find them?
Starting point is 00:22:45 You know, this kind of marginalized history, these people that I don't think got the send off they deserve. And it's, I know it sounds silly when we're talking about serious subjects like Elizabeth Jennings, the Rosa Parks of pockets of progress that have been forgotten I think are important to know about that history doesn't move in a straight line. So somebody like Elizabeth Jennings, almost exactly 100 years before Rosa Parks, she's booted off of a street car in New York City, and she hires a future president. In fact, Chester Alan Arthur.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I can't believe this is the first interview ever where Chester Alan Arthur has been named checked twice. She hires a young Chester Alan Arthur to defend her in civil court, and she wins. And this leads to the integration of New York City's transportation authority shortly after the Civil War. And I thought, that's kind of nuts thiiiiiiiiiia thia thia thia thia thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, toe, thi, thi, thoe, thoe, thoe, thoe, th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, too, too, too. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, the, the, I thought that's kind of nuts that people don't know this. Every single story in this book feels like stories you would want to just have in your brain to be the most interesting person in a room. Yes. Right? Because no really because it's like one of the stories that blew my mind here is when you were like I didn't know the history of the term Siams, Siams, right? Right? Conjoined twins, twined, their, twin, twin, their, twin, their, their, their, their, their, their, their stories, their stories, their stories, their stories, their stories, thea, their stories, like, like stories, like stories, like, like, thea, like stories, like stories, like stories, like stories, like stories, like stories, like stories, like stories, like stories, like stories, like stories, like stories, like, like stories, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, twin, twin, tw, stories, stories, toy, stories, toy. toy. toy. toy. t. t. t. the. the. their stories, stories, stories, stories, stories, stories, stories, stories, their stories, their stories, their stories, their, their stories, their stories, their stories, their stories, their stories, their stories, their stories, the. the. t originally people like Siamese twins and I didn't know that it came from two twins from the region that was once known as Siam which was
Starting point is 00:24:06 Thailand and you tell the story which is fascinating because they're conjoined twins and then they come to America they're a side show then they go on to become slave owners right so you just screwed it up at the last second. You had to go and become slave owners. Right. But that made it to me, it's certainly a more complicated story, a richer story, and a story more worth telling. I mean, they are kind of, their immigrants,
Starting point is 00:24:38 their names are Chang and Engbunker. They're two of the first celebrities in America. They're once they're once once once once once once their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thoe, thoe, thoe, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, and then, and then, and then, and th, and th, and th, and th. their, their, and then, and then, and then, tho, and then, too, and then, and too, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, too, and, and, and, and, too, and, and, and, toe, their, toe, their, their, their, their, thiiiiiii. Ande, thi. Ande, thi. Ande, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tooomereea.a.a.a.a. And, toe.a, toe. And, toe. And, toe. They're two of the first celebrities in America. They're once wildly famous. They're pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. They win their freedom. And then they own slaves. And it's sort of like the story of America, the good and the not good, all in one. I mean, they pack it all into that story. And I want, you know, and I was drawn to them because think, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, and I, and I was, because, and I was, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, their, their, their, to.s.s.s.s. too. too. too. too. too. too. their, and, their, people my age will remember in the Guinness Book of World Records, there was this picture of them.
Starting point is 00:25:08 It's like the picture of the conjoined twins. And there was this whole story behind that. What is your favorite story? Like that everyone you think should know about that they don't know about. Oh boy, I have so many that I love that I love that I love that I love that I love that I love that I love the story that I love that I love tho the story of Billy Carter because Billy Carter, the younger brother of Jimmy Carter, is remembered by most people, if at all, as kind of a buffoon, kind of a joke, a caricature of a redneck. And he, in fact, I went and I talked to President Jimmy Carter about him to his widow and
Starting point is 00:25:42 his six kids. And they describe a man who was hard-working who was very funny and we know this from interviews profiles that were done of him And a man who was struggling with alcoholism and in the last proud chapter of his life ministered to people that could relate to him about this and you know here he is in a small tiny town in southwest Georgia? Living his life his brother decides to run for president the media descends. I mean, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th th th thu-and thu-and thu-and thu-and thu-and thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu th th th th thu th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th, and we th, and we th, and we th th th th, and we th th th, and we th. thu thu thu thu thu thu thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thu. thu. thi thi thuuuu. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi. thi thi thi a small, tiny town in southwest Georgia, living his life, his brother decides to run for president, the media descends. I mean, how would you, how would anyone handle that? The business, the family business was then put into a blind trust. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Quaint, I know. And those were the days. And so he has no choice but to make his living at being Billy Carter. Kind of being a caricature of himself, but a complicated and decent man, like when you really learn about him. And so I wanted to be generous and I wanted to be compassionate. I think obituaries are the one place in journalism where the rule of thumb is, and I think should be giving people the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Oh, that's interesting. Giving people the benefit of the doubt. When you die, I mean, come on. You're gone. Right. I mean, unless you're a war criminal, that's different. Oh, then no doubt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah, you don't. Some doubt. Not at all. No, no nice stories about how they like puppies and all that. Got it, got it. What if it was like puppy-loving, war criminal dead? Or would you not even include the puppy loving part? Two-part series. Ah, war criminal dead, also loved puppies. Ah, that's a insect. Ah, that's an insect.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Ah, it, got it. Puppies could not be reached for comments. Right, right. Thank you so much for being on the show. A fascinating book. A mobiturary is available now. A really fun read. More rock, everybody. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
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