The Daily Show: Ears Edition - It's A Barbie World

Episode Date: July 21, 2023

The highly anticipated Barbie releases in theatres today! Guest host Marlon Wayans covers Mattell's STEM inspired Barbies for International Women's Day. Also, Trevor Noah sits with Barbie director, Greta Gerwig, and one of the stars of the movie, Issa Rae.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mattel is also celebrating International Women's Day with seven new role models. The new Barbie lineup was inspired by the likeness of female leaders in STEM fields from around the world. The company hopes the role models, including former YouTube CEO, Susan Wajisky, and UK space scientist Dr. Maggie Adderin and Pocock will inspire the next generation of girls to pursue their passions despite women being underrepresented in STEM fields. This is so important. Kids learn so much from their toys they play with. You want them to have scientist dolls and CEO dolls that can scissor each other.

For more on this story, we turn to Desilightic. Desi. How's your International Women's Day going? Well, thank you for asking. It started out so great. This morning, the random guy who usually yells, nice ass, instead yelled, I respect your nice ass.

And this is why we march. So yeah, I was feeling pretty good. I mean, at least until I saw this is why we march. So yeah, I was feeling pretty good. I mean, at least until I saw this Barbie story. Wait, you don't like these brand new Barbies? But they're so accomplished. They got scientists and they got a YouTube CEO. Oh, yeah. Equally great role models.

You could be a scientist who helps humanity, or you could design a YouTube algorithm that says, hey kids, if you like Peppa Pig, you'll love Q&O. Okay, that's fair, but some of them are doctors and engineers, and one of them is a professor. Yeah, I know, they're all so successful. F. Those Barbies. F. F.

Yeah, it's bad enough. Barbie was always hotter. Now she's smarter than me too. I want a doll that makes me feel bad about my body, not my mind. So you're saying we should get rid of these Barbies. Well, no, I mean, not necessarily. But why can't we also have some mediocre Barbies who don't make us feel pressured? Right?

Not mediocrity. Not every Barbie has to be a girl boss. Let's have a Barbie who's a paralegal at a mid-sized law firm. Or one who works the lunch shift at a just salad. There is nothing wrong with Barbies who are just trying to make it through the day. But aren't Barbie supposed to be aspirational? No. No, Marlon, they're not. Give me a Barbie who's okay with letting 5,000 emails pile up in her inbox. Okay? The Barbie who spilled coffee on her shirt, but knows she can still get another day out

of it if she puts a blazer on top. The Barbie who spends her Friday nights in bed, binge watching Vanderpump rules, dunking carrot sticks into a jar of peanut butter and letting her kids drive themselves to Taekwondo. For the love of God, stop judging me, Marlon. I wasn't, but those do feel very specific. You're specific. My point is they don't all have to be rock stars. You think every Ken is a Nobel Prize winning aeronautical engineer? No, he's just a man with a car in a pubic mound. And we all accept him.

That's what I want. The dream of every woman to be as successful as an average white man. That doesn't sound like women achieving their dreams. I'm sorry, are you mansplaining my dreams to me? On International Women's Day? No. What? Are you?

Are you, I feel like you wanted to. I swear I was not. I think. Desiladdez, please, everybody! Have you ever been watching the news and thought to yourself, wow, the Supreme Court sure does suck. We made a podcast about that. We sure did. There is a super majority of conservative maniacs on the Supreme Court right now, really

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That's the number 5-4, wherever you listen to podcast. My guest tonight makes her directorial debut with the critically acclaimed movie which she also wrote called Lady Bird. Please welcome, Greta Gowwig. Please welcome. Gowdy. Hi, welcome to the show. Oh, thank you so much for having me.

I'm a big fan. That clip, I think everyone is a big fan of yours, and if they aren't, they really should be. Because that clip is just a tiny piece of the amazingness that is this film. If you were to distill it into one thing, because I feel like it's a conflict-ridden relationship because she's 17 and her mom is like,

oh my god, am I done raising you yet? They're, I'm gonna send you out into the world. But there's like a lot of love there, and I find mother-daughter relationships to be really rich and exciting, and I wanted to make a whole movie about it. It was an interesting story in that it was told from a completely different perspective. So many times it feels like stories are told from the outside where people, I think this is how a mother and daughter would fight. But I know all the women I spoke to who watched the movie, like, that was me, that was my

mom. We fought, but we loved, but we loved. It was complex, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. th. So, th. So, th. So, th, th, th. So, th. So, th. So, th, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, to, to. to. to. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. caricature. Is that something you strove for when you wrote that? Is that why you wrote it yourself? Yeah, well, I mean, I've always loved like a great mother-daughter story, like, you know, Terms of Endearment is one of my favorite movies. And but I feel like there aren't enough of them. And I felt like when I had, so when I had the script, I brought it around to producers, most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most have money to make movies. And if they had, if they, I'm just saying, it's just true. And if they had daughters or if they'd been raised with sisters,

they were like, totally know what this is. But if they hadn't, they were like, do women fight like this? And I was like, oh yes, no, it's crazy down here. It's also interesting to watch a movie where women are on screen for the entire movie and it's not about men. No, I mean, yeah. I mean, there are there men in the movie, wonderful men, male actors. I mean, I just have to say I have a brilliant cast and Timothy Shalamehaway, who's also in comedy by your name is in it, and Lucas Hedges and Tracy Letts and Stephen McKinley Henderson and it's a great cast of men but their stories are secondary and it's

it was actually amazing because most of the time women have to be the secondary supporting characters for the men's story and then these wonderful actors so sweet they were like oh we just love being here for you guys and it's the idea that they're like, no, no, no, please, carry on. No, please. You do all the acting stuff. We'll just be here. No, they're wonderful in the movie.

When you're directing your first film, it must come with all the pressure in the world. It must come with all the fear in the world. And you've gone from what I assume is maybe is is is is is is is is is is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the thi., the the thi. thi. the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the having your film be the most highly rated film ever on rotten tomatoes, right? I think beating the previous record which was set by Toy Story 2. Yes, Toy Story 2, but my brother thinks that Toy Story 2 was like pretty perfect, and he texted me and he was like, I don't know.

He's gonna drop your tomatoes by one. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, it's amazing. I mean, one of my favorite things about filmmaking is what a collaborative art it is. Because it's, you know, you have your entire cast, which they're so amazing, and they bring themselves to it. And then you have your crew and your design team making it with you. So even though it was a huge leap for me, it was not like I was doing it alone. I was doing it with all these people who gave so much to it.

And also, I've wanted to direct forever. You also have a lot of people who see you as an indie voice, an indie star. They go like, you are the star of that world. Do you think you'd ever have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have as aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations aspirations as aspirations as aspirations as aspirations as aspirations as aspirations as aspirations as as a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Do you think you'd ever have aspirations to go into a mainstream film? Would you ever want to direct like a blockbuster movie or are you against that? No, I would love to. I would love to. Because I have this movie right now. No, yeah, yeah. But you would be into that. You have to send it to my agent. Oh, wow. No, no, no. I'm to send it to my agent. Oh, wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Oh. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. to. to. to. Wow. to. the. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. the. the. the. to. to. the. to. the, the to. the the the the the the to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I to. I to. I to. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I............................................................................................................................... material. No, no, I would love to.

I mean, one of the big inspirations for me this year was watching, you know, Patty Jenkins directing Wonder Woman, it was so amazing. And I just, like, for me, you know, she made Monster, which is an incredible movie in India, and then she made this leap, and I'm interested in all different sized canvases and I hope I just keep making movies and I hope some of them are our big fantasy lands and other are tiny life stories and I just want to do it all. I will tell you this after watching the film. Have you ever been watching the news and thought to yourself, wow, the Supreme Court sure sure does suck? We made a podcast about that. We sure did. There is a super

majority of conservative maniacs on the Supreme Court right now really doing some damage. I'm Michael. I'm Riannan. And I'm Peter. Our podcast 5-4 is about all of this. Every week we dissect and analyze a different ruling that has made our country a little worse, a little more cruel. And you would not believe how many of them there are. Check out 5 to 4. That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the 5. That's 5 the 5. That's 5. the 5. to 4. to 5 to 5 to 5 to 5 to 5 the the the the to 5. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. ttto. tttto. ttttto. tttttto. the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. the many of them there are. Check out five to four. That's the number five, dash the number four, wherever you listen to podcast. Will not be shocked when I hear your name nominated for an Oscar. Thank you so much for being here.

Lady Bird is in Seattle's now. Credit going everybody. My guest tonight is an actor, a writer, and a producer of all your favorite things. Issa Ray. She's here to chat about her amazing career thus far and an exciting new partnership that she's kicking off. Isa Ray, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Hey, Travadora, thank you for having me. Distanced.

Yes, having you very distanced. Although I feel like you have been somebody who I feel like you're always in my life. You know, like, there are some people who make the kinds of shows that make you feel like you know them as a person. Like I would probably be one of your creepy fans who comes up to you in the streets and I and I and I and I and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and thinks and thinks and thinks and thinks and thinks and thinks and thinks and thinks and thinks and thinks and thinks and thinks and thinks, I thi thi, I'm thi, I thi, I'm thi, I'm to to be to be, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the street and thinks I know you more than I do. I'm sure you have people like that because you make those kinds of shows where whenever I watch Israe I go like, I know her. I know her. Esa's my best friend, but we're not best friends.

And I'm actually very creepy when I do that to you. Do you have that a lot with people? Yes, people do. I take it as a compliment until they start like insulting me and my character, my literal character. But, you know, I presided on the students that you mean. I welcome it. What do you think that is? I've always wondered how you do that because everyone can make a show. But when Issa Ray makes her show, there's a connectivity to it that connects me? Even if you give like a speech at an award show, there's a familiarity that you have that connects people to you.

Have you ever wondered what that is? I haven't. I don't try to look at a gift horse in the mouth. And it's not something that Iability. I do strive to just find the commonality there and pray the only one that goes through thing. I think what makes insecure such a fantastic show and hopefully a show that will change shows forever is, you created a show in which black women specifically can occupy all spaces and places

within society. You know, there's no, there's no archetype of what the black woman is supposed to be. You can be the broke thus friend, you can be the person who's focused, not focused, the person who's, you know, there's something powerful in that. And I've always wanted to know whether you set out to create that or whether you were just replicating your world as you saw it. whether you set out to create that or whether you were just replicating your world as you saw it. It's definitely the latter. It was, and I think that's what was the frustration

about not seeing that on television for so long because I was surrounded by these women who occupied so many different spaces and I wasn't seeing that reflected on television. And it was just like, but this is my life, this is their life, this my life, this my life, this is my life, this is my life, this, this, this, this, this, this, my life, my mom, my mom, my mom, my mom, my mom, my mom, my mom, my mom, my mom, their, I, their, I, I, I, th is, I was, thin, thin, thin, their, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, thi, th.. and I, th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thr, thrown. thrown. thrown, was, was, was, thrown, was, was, thrown, was, was, thrown, was, was, throwne. throwne. throwne, was, was, was, was, the life, this is their life, this is my mom's friend's life, so what is the problem? Where's the disconnect now? And of course we had that during the earlier decades, but there was, you know, that dearth in the early 2000, right, 2000 to 2010, the odds, and it was just like, where are we? And where are these women women that I felt so well. And so I wanted to intentionally reflect that world just because it was missing. The show has been extremely successful and then you drop the bombshell on us and you tell us that insecure is now coming to an end.

The question is why? Because it's a story and the stories end. And you know, even in pitching it that first season, I knew that I wanted to end it the fifth season. Prensis and I talked about that and he was just like, yeah, that feels right. And so we've been building towards his journey to finish telling the story. I love watching television that kind of has a, that takes me a story. Like there's nothing like a meandering story. And so for me, I hope that people leave feeling satisfied. Like, oh, I'm glad I watched that.

I'm glad I watched that story, been told. I think everyone's gonna have that feeling. And what's cool is if you're an Israe fan, I mean, from what I read in the world. Like, you are doing mogul things is what the internet calls it. You know when Twitter goes like, oh, making money moves, then you know, like things are happening. Get the bag. You're getting the bag, you're making the money moves. Congratulations, first of all, because you are just making things. You've signed a giant deal. You're going to be creating everything across the board. Firstly, where do you find the time? Secondly, what are you now looking to do

that you haven't already done? So much. I mean, I'm, thank you. I am, I have the time because I work with incredible people and so like, you know, there's different our company and people are, you have incredible taste and work very hard. And then for me next, you know, there's different arm company and people are, you have incredible taste and work very hard. And then for me next, I just want to, I want to go behind the scenes. Like I love exploring the business parts of the industry. I love producing the work of people who I'm a fan of and I have not made a film yet. That is my personal next goal.

And yeah, there's just so many things that I want to call. And I don't want to just do anything to do it. I want to do things well. Talk me through your partnership with LifeWater. This is really interesting. I saw, I saw money, I saw Opportunity, and I saw Israe, and I was like, all right, I want to know what this is all about. What's happening? So I've always, in the spirit of collaboration, wanted to find other people to work with,

and, you know, this industry right now talks so much about diversity and representation, and where do you find these people? And it's like we're trying to create the pipelines. Basically, LifeWan and I have partnered to hold a contest to find people and artists and creatives who need that opportunity to have their work be seen. Oh, what? They've created a 20 bottles with the work of these various artists

that we've hand selected and then we're doing a contest to find five more and and to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their.. and their. and their their their and their their their their their their their their their their their their to be their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their life, their life, their life, their part part part part part part part part part part part part part, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, theaughecklipecklip.aughecklip.aughecklip.aughecklip. And, their, their, their, their, their, the various artists that we've had selected and then we're doing a contest to find five more and they'll get $10,000 to have their work commissioned. I wonder if part of the reason you did this is because in many ways your career was also started by the people. I mean you know your your original show was this awkward black girl and here you had people on a Kickstarter saying, oh, we're going to make this thing happen. Without that, you might not be here today or maybe the journey would have taken much longer. Without a doubt, I know what it's like to be in those early stages and be like, I just,

if someone just sees my work, if just that one person believes that you have a platform, then that could change the game for me, or it could not, but I guess we need to either see this and be like, this is great or see this and be like, this sucks, don't ever try again. And so we are hopefully providing this platform for these artists and looking out for them in a way that the industry isn't necessarily doing. specifically specifically specifically specifically specifically specifically specifically specifically specifically specifically specifically specifically specifically specifically specifically specifically, necessarily doing, specifically by having LifeWater Commission a study to see like where there's a lack of representation in these areas. It's visual art, fashion, music, and filmmaking.

Oh, okay. Israe, thank you so much for joining me. I appreciate you. Thank you, thank you. Thank you, Trevor. Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by searching the Daily Show, wherever you get your podcast. Watch the Daily Show Podcast Universe by searching the Daily Show, wherever you get your podcasts. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and stream full episodes any time on Fairmount Plus. This has been a Comedy Central podcast. Have you ever been watching the news and thought to yourself, wow, the Supreme Court sure does

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