The Daily Show: Ears Edition - It's Time to Talk About "Forever Chemicals" | Nneka Ogwumike

Episode Date: March 6, 2020

Trevor examines the "forever chemicals" problem, Dulce Sloan blasts America's lack of statues honoring women, and Los Angeles Sparks player Nneka Ogwumike discusses the WNBPA. Learn more about your a...d-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at, that's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:35 March 5th, 2020. From Comedy Central's World News Headquarters in New York. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. Welcome to the Daily Share, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for coming out. Look at you guys, look at you guys. Take a seat. Come on in, everybody, take it. Let's do it. I'm Trevor Noah. Our guest tonight is the president of the WNBA Players
Starting point is 00:01:14 Association and a forward for the Los Angeles Sparks, Nequa M-Mique is joining us everybody. Also on tonight's show, the presidential race is officially a sausage fest. Dulce Sloan celebrates Women's History Month, and have you been drinking water? Then you might be in trouble. So let's catch up on today's headlines. Let's kick it off with the Democratic primaries. After Super Tuesday, voters basically decided the race should be between Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. So Michael Bloomberg promptly dropped out and now in the wise words of the philosopher Deje Caled, another one.
Starting point is 00:01:55 We begin with today's big breaking 2020 news. Senator Elizabeth Warren is dropping out. Warren speaking out on her decision to suspend her campaign. Gender in this race, you know. That is the track question for everyone. If you say, yeah, there was sexism in this race, everyone says Weiner, and if you say no, there was no sexism, about a bazillion women think, what planet do you live on? I promise you this, I'll have a lot more to say on that subject later on. Damn, Elizabeth Warren has a good point.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah, because like it or not, that was some truth that she dropped there. A woman addressing sexism or ignoring it while running for president is either going to be seen as a whiner or living on another planet, which is unfair, especially since the president is already a whiner who lives on another planet. And whether you think sexism played a role or not, you have to admit it's pretty strange that a race that started with a broad tapestry of candidates is now basically down to two old white men. Yeah, they're so old that no matter which one of them wins, Donald Trump will be the youngest person in the race. Think about that.
Starting point is 00:03:11 That's why, like, there's no other job where these three people would be the top candidates. Like, even if they were auditioning for those life-alert commercials, yeah, people would be like, we're kind of going for someone healthier, you know? You guys don't really look like you're young enough to save, you know what I mean? And now the big question is,
Starting point is 00:03:32 who is Elizabeth Warren going to endorse? Biden or Bernie? Is she going to swipe right or really far left? All right, let's move on. To this year's biggest viral challenge, the coronavirus. While the CDC is struggling to test patients and stores are running out of cleaning supplies, we're finding out just how fast this thing can spread. New alarm bells ringing tonight on the coronavirus outbreak in this country.
Starting point is 00:03:56 There are now more than 150 cases in a growing number of states. A New York City lawyer is hospitalized. His wife, daughter and son testing positive. A family friend who he spent time with is also positive, as are his wife and three children. Officials also announcing, the neighbor who drove the lawyer to the hospital, has the virus. The neighbor's children are being tested. The governor says, no need to panic. Okay, there's definitely a need to panic. Because the only time people say there's no need to panic is when there's something to panic about.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Like a pilot never comes on the PA like, ladies and gentlemen, no need to panic, but we've landed. And, and nothing, there's no need to panic. Because that graphic is especially scary. Did you see that thing? Look at that. Like everyone got the virus. That guy got the virus. Then his wife got the virus.
Starting point is 00:04:54 His kid's got the virus. His neighbor got the virus. Probably everyone sharing his. The guy who drove him to the hospital got the virus, which means the car's GPS probably got the virus as well. She's like, turn right now, cuffing, cuffing, touching face. No GPS, don't touch your face! You don't even have a face! Now, leaders all over the world are handling corona in very different ways. Some are panicking and some are not doing enough.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Luckily for all of us, in the United States, there's one person who isn't worried at all. We have a report today the global death rate at 3.4 percent and a report that the Olympics could be delayed. Your reaction to that? Well I think the 3.4 percent is really a false number. Now this is just my hunch. It's because a lot of people will have this and it's very mild. So I think that that number is very high. I think the number, personally, I would say the number is way under 1%. Yes, good news. Trump has a hunch that coronavirus is not as deadly as people think. In fact, he personally has a feeling that the death rate is lower than 1%. What the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:06:03 I've got a feeling is a phrase that should only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'll the number. I thi. I the number. I the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number. the number. the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateate. I'm theateateate. I the. I'm the. I is that? I've got a feeling is a phrase that should only be reserved for low stakes situations. You know, like whether tonight's going to be a good good night. And honestly, I don't know why Trump is doing this. Why is he being like, oh, it's not that bad, it's not that, acting like the virus. No one is blaming Trump for coronavirus. People just don't want him ignoring it. Like it'll just go away. This is a global pandemic, not his son Eric. And by the way, why was Fox News showing the White House for that call? I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:37 based on where Trump spends most of his time, it's more likely he was at Marlago or KFC. I mean, I don't even know why they did that. Right and finally, here's a fun story to lighten up your day. You know how everyone always tells you to not text while driving because it can lead to a disaster? Well, this next driver should have taken that advice. Please stop what you're doing and take a look at your screen. Check out a major car into a river. It happened Southern China reports that he was trying to avoid those pedestrians on the bridge. Apparently, he was reading, get this, messages on his phone congratulating him for passing
Starting point is 00:07:14 his driver's test. Oh! There are so many things about this story. First of all, he was trying to avoid that. Why didn't he just stop? Like that thing, it went bad so fast. It looked like the driving version of Mike Bloomberg's campaign, you know? It was like, I'm the only one who can, I, Elizabeth Warren.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And you know who I really feel bad for, the person he was apparently texting with, because you realize they're still at home, looking at those three little dots and nothing has come out? What is he saying? Did he pass the test or not? But still people, the real lesson here is about texting while driving. Because you see, this only happened because the driver looked down to read his texts? Then he looked up, saw the pedestrians panicked, swerved, and went into the water. So please, don't make this mistake.
Starting point is 00:08:10 All right? Just keep looking down at your phone. The whole time. You let the people jump out of the way. Yeah. Because if people jump off the bridge, we can always make more people, but that car is never coming back. All right, that's it for the headlines. Let's move on, top top story. Right now we're all on edge because of the coronavirus. And yes, it is scary, but you know what helps me sleep at night? Is remembering that there are a million other things that could kill me first. Yeah, there's car accidents or fires or that suicide pact I made with my best friend in high school if we weren't married by now. But luckily, luckily the U.S. government recently took action to cross one potential killer
Starting point is 00:08:53 off the list. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is targeting PFAS's chemicals in its new proposal for a national drinking water standard. PFAS are toxic chemicals linked to serious diseases like, oh, cancer, liver damage and thyr, and thiiiii.. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but. But. But. But. But. But. But. But. But. But, th. But, th. But, th. But, th. But, th. But, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, the thi. And, the the thei.u.u. And, luckily, luckily, luckily, luckily, luckily, luckily, luckily, luckily, luckily, luckily, luckily, luckily, luckily, the the the thi. And, luckily, luckily, thi. And, th are toxic chemicals linked to serious diseases like, oh, cancer, liver damage, and thyroid disease. And guess what? They never, ever, ever degrade. In fact, they're known as forever chemicals. They're so prevalent, CDC scientists believe P-FAS are in the blood
Starting point is 00:09:18 streams of nearly all Americans. Yeah, apparently there's a group of chemicals called hathas that are in all of our blood and it might cause cancer and because they're impossible to break down they're known as forever chemicals which sounds really dangerous but also kind of romantic. Yeah it does. It sounds like something from an old school R&B song you know it's just like girl I want to be your forever chemical. There's nothing. There's th, there's nothing. It sounds like something from an old school R&V song. You know, it's just like, girl, I want to be your forever chemical. There's nothing toxic about our love. But what are these forever chemicals?
Starting point is 00:09:55 And how did they get into us? Because if it's not sexually transmitted, I don't know how I got it. Well, let's find out in another installment of, if you don't know, now you know. Now you know. Now, forever chemicals might be with us until the end of time, but they were only engineered by scientists about 80 years ago. And for a while, it seemed like they would only change the world for the better. PFAS chemicals were first discovered in 1938, accidentally by scientists. They were used a few years later in the Manhattan project.
Starting point is 00:10:31 What make PFAS so useful in manufacturing is how the chemicals fit together. The fluorine atoms just so happen to fit perfectly around the carbon atoms to create a bond that resists things like heat, oil, and water. It's in most products that are water, heat, and grease resistant. They're used to repel water, grease and oil in all sorts of things, from carpets to clothing to non-stick cookware. That's right, forever chemicals are used to keep things like food, oil and moisture from sticking to surfaces, which you can't deny is really useful. I mean, like I don't want to get cancer. But at the same time, have you ever tried scraping eggs off a non-
Starting point is 00:11:08 like a sticky pan? Have you tried that? It's a nightmare. Like, they've definitely been times when I was just like, I'd rather be dead! And this technology, this technology was discovered by scientists entirely by accident, which always amazes me that they can do this. Like scientists are always making one thing, but then they discover something totally different. You know, I mean, like, I've done the same thing in my life. Like, one time I was trying to create dinner for my girlfriend, but instead I discovered
Starting point is 00:11:34 that she didn't love me. I guess in a way, me and Stacey were also nonstick. But the point is, the point is, these forever chemicals have tons of uses. They were even used in the Manhattan Project to help build the first atomic bomb, which means at some point in the 1940s, a general was like, did you discover a way to defeat the Germans? And the scientists were like, we're still working on it? But before I get to that, has this ever happened to you? Now, forever chemicals would be incredible if they remained in all those products like they were supposed to.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Unfortunately, they just can't seem to stay put. So once they're made, they just accumulate in the environment, they end up in our water supply, they end up in our food, and they end up in us. The environmental watchdog group found forever chemicals or PFA's in drinking water in some 31 states. You'll find them in the lining of typical takout containers and pizza boxes. But the toxins in the packaging can transfer into food. The Food and Drug Administration just found substantial levels in some grocery store meats and seafood.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And they found even higher levels in chocolate cake that can be bought off the shelf. Damn, chocolate cake takes no prisoners. If it doesn't get the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ti ti ti tii ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. I ti. I ta ta ta ta ta. I ta. I ta. I ta. I ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. taeeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaea................ I ta. I ta. I ta. I ta. I's ta. I's ta. I's ta. I'm ta. I'm ta. Ia.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. ta.a.a.a. ta. ta.a.a. ta. ta. t shelf. Damn, chocolate cake takes no prisoners. If it doesn't get you with the diabetes, it's got a backup plan to take you down with secret chemicals. Yeah, it's like if Walter White teamed up with Betty Crocker. And why does this always happen with food we love, that's coming to kill us? You never hear the news say,
Starting point is 00:13:03 this just end fermented horse meat is bad for you. It's always like, do you enjoy chocolate cake and water? Well, you're dead now. Because chocolate cake would have been bad enough, but forever chemicals are also in our water. Our water people. That means it's in the sink, it's in the shower, which means it's seen me naked, so it could give me cancer and blackmail me? I swear to God, forever chemicals, you tell anyone about that thing hanging off my back
Starting point is 00:13:29 and I'll kill you! So anyway, thanks to forever chemicals. Everything from your food to your drinking water is contaminated. And yes, the EPA is finally starting to take action now. But people have been raising concerns about these chemicals. For the the f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f. their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. I. I th. the, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I. I. I. I. th. I. I. th. I. I. I. I. I. th. I. I. th. I. th. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. to to to to to toea. to toea. toea. toea. toea. tea. tea. tea. tea decades, companies like DuPont were brushing off those concerns like they were food on a Teflon pan. Even DuPont says it cannot rule out that Teflon connected products such as its stain master carpet treatment give off the chemical.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Umma Chaudry, a vice president of research is the DuPont to publicly defend Teflan. She says Teflant is completely safe even if the key the key the key the key the key the key the key the key the key the key the key the key the key chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical chemical. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th cc, thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theau. teau. teau. teau. teau. teau. theau thea. thea. thea executive chosen to publicly defend Teflot. She says Teflot is completely safe even if the key chemical is in everyone's blood. Everyone has it. Everyone has it. It's in my blood? Possibly. We do not believe there are any adverse health effects. Is it a good thing to have it in your blood?
Starting point is 00:14:23 There are lots of chemicals that are present in our blood. There are lots of chemicals in our blood. Yeah, but right now we're talking about the chemicals your company put there. What kind of defense is this? Can you imagine if you caught someone breaking into your home? And you're like, hey, what are you doing here? They're like, ah, there are many people in houses right now. I mean, who's that guy? You're like, that's my husband, my point exactly. So at this point, at this point, no matter what the government does to fight forever chemicals, there's a good chance a lot of the damage is already done. If you've got blood, these forever chemicals are in it. So all companies like DuPont can do now is just put their best spin on things, which isn't
Starting point is 00:15:08 easy. Well, I won't life. I ran DuPont. I would try. I'll try and like figure out a way to make it look good. I wouldn't hide the fact that they may have poisoned almost the human on the face of the Oscars have in common? Discrimination.
Starting point is 00:15:29 But at DuPont, we're all about inclusivity. That's right, no matter who you are or where you're from, DuPont will poison you. I grew up in Texas, and I've got DuPont chemicals in my blood. Look at me. I am from Uganda, and I am poisoned. Because of all these chemicals in my blood, the doctors say I've got cancer. And so does my husband.
Starting point is 00:15:55 DuPont, forever chemicals for everyone. So much, Pyea. We'll be right back. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. Really? But that's all about to change.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Show. As you know, March is Women's History Month. Yes. Yes. It's the one month when Mike Pence can't be alone with a calendar. And to help us celebrate, we're joined by our senior women's history correspondent, Dose Sloan, everybody. Hello. Happy Women's History Month. Happy? It would be happy if you got me a gift. Well, another one. I just got you a gift for Black History Month. Yeah, because I'm black in February and in March. I'm a woman. Oh, no, but that's not fair.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Okay, so then when do I get a gift? In April, because you're a fool. Anyway, Trevor, have you ever wondered why women don't get the historic credit they deserve? Uh, sexism? Statues, Trevor. Women don't have as many statues as men. In fact, nationwide, only 8% of outdoor statues are of women. Wow. How did you know that statistic?
Starting point is 00:17:52 I drink snapple. I'm fidd. I read. What? I read. What? Internet? Come on, dog.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And I've seen it for myself. I was walking through Central Park the other day, Internet, come on dog. And I've seen it for myself. I was walking through Central Park the other day, under duress. And I saw statues of Alexander Hamilton, Christopher Columbus, William Shakespeare, all famous men from history. But it comes to women, there's only two statues in Central Park. Alice in Wonderland and Mother Goose, which makes no damn sense.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Alice is just a white girl who took Molly. And why does Mother Goose get a statue? All she did was a ghost. I don't think that's right. I don't think that's right. Fine, she made love to a goose. No, that's not what, okay, anyway, do you say, I'm lost. How does having more statues help? Because, Trevor, statues help us remember history.
Starting point is 00:18:58 When you walk past the statue and you're like, oh yeah, MLK did have a dream? Thomas Jefferson was a complicated individual. And when you don't honor women the same way you honor men, you're leaving them out of history. That's true. That's true. Well, well, at least, women have the statue of liberty. That's one of the most famous statues in the world.
Starting point is 00:19:23 That doesn't count. We need statues of real women, not some giant French bitch holding an ice cream. No, someone like Tony Morrison, the first black woman to win, the Nobel Prize for Literature, or someone like Francis Perkins, the first woman appointed to a presidential cabinet. Or someone like B Perkins, the first woman appointed to a presidential cabinet, or someone like Bionse. The first woman to be Bionse. Why doesn't she have a statue? I mean, she's already standing like a statue, she's right.
Starting point is 00:20:01 This is actually a great idea. But I hope you understand, building thousands of statues of women is going to be difficult. I mean, statues are expensive. You know, this is going to be a project that's going to take a lot of time. Oh, I've already done it, Trevor. What? I've designed one statue to symbolize all women. Their power, their beauty, their mystique.
Starting point is 00:20:22 A flawless avatar of womanhood that anyone can look at and see themselves. Don't say that that's a statue of you. Oh Trevor. I'm touched that you can see me in that art. No, it's literally you. It has your name on it. And also, why are you holding a baby? You don't have kids.
Starting point is 00:20:49 That baby symbolizes America, okay? Which women have been carrying for far too long! Now I'm kidding, it's it just Elvis baby. Because that's some history I want to make. Do you say Sloane everybody. We'll be right back. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like, none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 minutesutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Starting point is 00:21:56 My guest tonight is a WNBA champion and six-time all-star who plays for the Los Angeles Sparks. As president of the Players Union, she played a leading role in negotiating higher pay and expanded benefits for all of the women in the show. This is so fun, especially having a woman president on the show. This is nice. I hope this is a predictor of the future. Welcome. Thank you. I don't even know where to start in your world because of how many achievements you just have in your resume.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I don't even know where to start in your world because of how many achievements you just have in your resume. Let's start with your journey as a player. You are one of the most accomplished players that we've ever seen in the game of basketball. Magic Johnson said that he watches you playing. He goes you one of the smartest players on and off the court. He actually said, you are like a combination of Magic Johnson and LeBron James. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:23:07 That is really high praise. You've dominated it for such a long time. What's interesting is your sister plays in the team with you. She does. She's also amazing. And then you have a younger sister who has been predicted to also be coming into the W. What are they feeding you in your family? If you must know, we're Nigerians, we eat a lot of goosey soup. Ah, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:23:33 But is there something in your family where, like, how do you have so many great basketball players in the family? I don't know. I really couldn't tell you. We just kind of the thaaeeeeeeeeeee. the. the. the. the, the, the, the, the, the, thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thean, thean, thean, thii, thiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tell you. You know, we just kind of grew up knowing what excellence was. Right. In our culture, it's just the staple and the standard. And so to be honest, like if I was playing another sport, I would have found a way to be excellent in that.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And it's just so happened that we all play basketball. But not only that, we had the opportunity to play basketball at Stanford, between between between between between between betweenthen my youngest two sisters play at Rice and it's just in the blood you know. It's interesting that you've been playing for so long and the WNBA is so young as a league so when when when you started off playing, there wasn't even an idea of a possible future I mean that the WNBA's being growing exponentially but it's still, was that ever an idea? Did you think, oh, I'm going to be playing professionally, or were you just doing this for fun? I'm not going to lie, Trevor. I didn't think I was going to play professionally till I was like halfway through my senior year of college.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Wow. And I think that is attributed to just how we were raised, but also being ignorant to educate people about that, and also affect change in this current CBA, I feel like I found my legacy. It's kind of cool. That's really amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:53 That really is amazing. The WMBA is truly one of the most interesting stories on your, you know, it does better and better. It makes more and more money. And yet there are so many complicated stories within it. You have amazing women who are athletes who play in this league. Most of them, I've heard, have college degrees. Almost everyone. Yeah, yeah. That's special on its own. That's very special. You have business owners, you have entrepreneurs. But then because of the pay structures in the league, most of the women women women women women women women women women women, the women, the women, the women, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, it, it, the, it, it, the, it, the, it, it, it, it, it, it is, tho, it is, it is, it is, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, it, it, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you, to, to, you, to, to, you, to, to, you, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, toooma, to, to, to, their in the league, most of the women have to go overseas to earn, and correct me to this wrong,
Starting point is 00:25:28 but more money from other countries playing in a basketball league. We have a 12-month season, right? And that is to, that gives us an opportunity to earn up to 10 times more? Up to 10 times more? I'm sorry, what? What do you mean up to 10 times more where? Compared to what we make here. You get paid 10 times more outside of America. There are players that do. And so we wanted to make sure that. Like, which countries are these?
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Starting point is 00:26:55 at a foundational level that can hopefully create a much better future for women's basketball. That's really. That th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the thi thi theateateateate the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the the te. teeeeeeeean. to to to tean. tean. tm. tm. tm. tm. tm. the. the. t brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. How did you... How do you respond to those people who, some of, some of which are trolls, but some who maybe you know genuinely from their side say like I don't understand. They're all trolls. Yeah, I like that. Some people like, why do W.N.B.A. They don't have as many fans as the NBA. You know, I just don't understand the ignorance
Starting point is 00:27:27 because it doesn't make sense. But at the same time, I think it boils down to the business being run properly, which our current commissioner now is really working hard to fix. Granted, basketball is basketball, but the game is different on the women's side. And the fans that we do have a lot, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which tho, which is tho, which is tho, which is tho, which is a tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, thi, the thi, the thi, the thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, their, the their, their, their, their, the fans that we do have, which are a lot, that is not true. We do have fans. And I expect everyone here to go to a WBA game this summer, including you. I'm going to go.
Starting point is 00:27:50 You're going to go. I love watching live basketball. But we do have fans. You guys have fans? You guys have fans? 23. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Thank you. So, I told you we have fans. Wow. That's from the beginning. That's OG fans. So like, you know, it's just, it's not true that we don't have fans. But the business is different. You know, we play differently.
Starting point is 00:28:17 We appeal to a different market. We have to to thrive. When you look at the journey you've been on, when you look at the journey the league has been on, the players have been on, there's no doubt that the league is growing. There's no doubt that the league makes more money. Is there an argument of chicken and the egg? You know, like people go like, oh, maybethen the league becomes more popular. If it becomes more popular, it makes more money. That is definitely what we're dealing with right now. And instead of just talking about the chicken or the egg, bring a chicken that lays an egg or let an egg crack, like do something. Don't just keep
Starting point is 00:28:53 talking about it. Right. Yeah. So what's your goal and your journey now? Because I mean, you're a legend both in and outside of basketball. You know, you are th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the th. th. thi. thi. thi. theeeeeea. theea. thea. Where do you see your journey taking you? Right now I'm finally grabbing the wheel of the car that's taking me to wherever I need to go. Right. But to be honest I just want to educate more people about the WNBA women in sports empowering women in general, especially educating other women on how to to empower women. We do need allies, of course. And so that's just kind of what I want to do. I just want to educate people because ignorance really eliminates a lot of preconceptions and it changes actions in a very small way.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Right. And I tell everyone, okay, if you can't go to a WMBA game, at least have the TV on and let it contribute to the ratings. Turn it on. If you absolutely have nothing to do, you can find a game. It's not impossible to find a game. Turn it on, watch it. Follow me now. You know, you know, in whatever way you can. I know a lot of people probably my, Hanis Parker. I'm sure you can't th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. thu. tho tho tho tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho. tho on. tho on. tho on. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. toooo. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. is Parker. I'm sure you can follow her. Don't just watch her as an analyst, watch her play. And if you can't see her, then you can't be her. And that's what I want to change. Let's talk a little bit about that. Because I think one of the, one of the more interesting and also heartbreaking stories, there was seldom images of her that didn't involve basketball. You know, whether it was her playing in her dress and in her heels, you know, that video
Starting point is 00:30:33 that went around, whether it was pictures of her practicing with her dad, Kobe, whether it was images of her at a game staring at you, you know, almost looking at you like, wow, this is where I dream of being. There's no denying that Gigi Bryant in many ways represented the future of what the WNBA could be, you know, because she was, she wasn't just playing basketball to play basketball, she was trying to get somewhere and that somewhere was the WNB. She looked up to you, she looked up to many other players in the ta. What do do th you th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-a, thi, thi, thin, thin, tho, the, the, the, the, the, the, the future, the, the, the, the the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, thi, and thi, and thr-s, and thr-s, and thri, thri, and toooooooooooooooooooooooooooe, and thr-a, and their,BA. What do you think that's done for the sport? And what do you hope young girls out there who are playing right now will have
Starting point is 00:31:08 that your generation doesn't? You know, losing Gigi, I think, to the world, it exposed people to a lot that they didn't know, not just about a young girl who wanted to aspire to be like her dad, but a young girl that was moving things for women without even realizing it. She was authentically herself. And by her being authentically herself, you know, we saw a living legacy in her, not just through her father, but also for women in sports and for the WMBA. When we got to experience her, we were looking at what we were working for. You know, we're not just here to make a difference for the current players, for
Starting point is 00:31:51 the rookies coming in. We're here to make a difference for those girls like Gigi, whose eyes lit up every time that they saw us. And that is out there and people need to know that that is out there. We were tragically alarmed by it but it certainly was a wake-up call and it really hit hard for the women's basketball community to lose her but we're gonna live in her honor. I think you do that every single day. Congratulations and everything you've done. Congratulations on making history. Thank you. Neckwalk, Ogume Mique of the WMDOs, Los Angeles, Fox everybody.
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