The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Jaboukie Young-White on Why Young People Don’t Vote | Nicole Chung

Episode Date: October 12, 2018

Kanye West meets with President Trump, Jaboukie Young-White thinks the voting system is designed for old people, and author Nicole Chung discusses "All You Can Ever Know." Learn more about your ad-ch...oices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast. The Weekly Show. It's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting. You'll be saying to yourself, TGID. Thank God it's Thursday. We're going to be talking about. All the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me.
Starting point is 00:00:26 The election, economics, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance, it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to the Danish show everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm Trevor Noah.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Our guest tonight is the author of a new memoir about trans racial adopting. Thank you so much for turning in. I'm Trevor Noah. Our guest tonight is the author of a new memoir about trans racial adopting. It's a fantastic read. Nicole Chung is here, everybody. We're going to have a really wonderful conversation with her. But before we chat to her, there's a ton of news, so let's catch up on today's headlines. As you probably know by now, there was a ranting lunatic in the Oval Office today, and he had to sit there quietly as Kanye West did this. At the White House today, a presidential sit down like we've never seen before. Kanye West met with President Trump in the Oval Office and he had a lot to say.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I love Hillary, I love everyone, right? But the campaign I'm with her, just didn't make me feel as a guy that didn't get to see my dad all the time, like a guy that could play, catch with his son. It was something about when I put this hat on and maybe feel like Superman. The I-plane one. It's a hydrogen-powered airplane, and this is what our president should be flying in. So there's theory the infinite amounts of universe, so there's theories that there's infinite amounts of universe and there's alternate universe, because time is a minute. Would you build a trap door that if you mess up and you accidentally something happens,
Starting point is 00:02:51 you fall and you end up next to the unibomber? All we really have is to get over and over and over again, the eternal return, the hero's journey, and Trump is on his hero's journey right now. And he might not have expected to have a crazy mother-fixing like Kanye West. I'll tell you what, that was pretty impressive. throwns, that was impressive. You know, Trump's mouth said, that was impressive. But you could see he was thinking, is it racist if I call the cops, is that?
Starting point is 00:03:24 And I'm not a fan of this new Kanye West, but I will say I really enjoyed seeing Kanye make Trump feel the way Trump makes us feel every single day. That was great to watch. I like that. And this must have been so confusing for Donald Trump. Because you realize the only other black guy he knows is Ben Carson, right?
Starting point is 00:03:48 So now he's like, black people are the quietest, sleepiest, most talkative manic people I know. So today was a weird day for President Trump. And I hope he didn't catch up on other news after that meeting because this story out of Mexico would have made him, hashtag sad. We're getting our first look inside a high-tech border th. the the their their their their their their th. the, the, theck, theck, theck, theck, theck, theck, theck, theck, theck, theck, theck, the, the, the. the, th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the, the the the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. theat theat theat theat th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th theat th the. th th th th meeting because this story out of Mexico would have made him hashtag sad. We're getting our first look inside a high-tech border tunnel leading to California discovered by Mexican authorities last month. Agents say the tunnel is 31 feet deep and 627 feet long, starting in a Mexican home about 200 feet from the border. The tunnel is extremely sophisticated with lighting, ventilation and some pumps to get rid of moisture all powered by solar panels. The tunnel even has its own rail system that goes the entire
Starting point is 00:04:30 length. Right now Trump is like, we need an upside-down wall, guys. That is so impressive. An illegal Mexican drug tunnel basically has a better subway system than New York. That's what that is. And somehow less drugs. Oh, a lot of people don't know this, but in those Mexican tunnels, they still have that guy who randomly starts dancing in the middle of your ride. Just comes in there, it's like, oh man. I also like how the tunnel used solar power, too. That was like a nice touch.. It. It. It, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's th. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. in there, it's like, oh man. I also like how the tunnel used solar power, too. That was like a nice touch.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It's almost like the drug cartel saw the latest climate reports, and they were like, man, we gotta do our part, man. I don't want my kids growing up in a white marble mansion with a bad tiger and no to tha, man., man other news, if you've ever wondered what inspired the First Lady's Be Best campaign, well, you need wonder no more. For the first time, Melania Trump revealing why exactly she focused on cyber bullying. What happened to you personally, or what did you see personally that you thought you wanted to tackle this issue? I could say I'm the most bullied person on the world.
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Starting point is 00:06:31 All right, let's move on to our top story. The midterm elections, they're now just a few weeks away. And because of that, we're starting to see more and more news stories about who's going to vote, who's not going to vote, and why. We headed to the local University the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th to to to to thi thi thi to be not thi thi thin thin, thin, be not thin' thin, be not thin' the the the, be not thi. Beaq not thi. Beaqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq, be not, be not th. Be th. Be th. Be th. Be th. Be th. Be th. Be th. Be th. Be thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, be not thin, be thin, thin, thin, ta'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n't about who's going to vote, who's not going to vote, and why. We headed to the local University of California campus. Democrats' hopes of winning here hinges, at least in part, on turning out people of color and young voters. Sorry, not to be annoying, but we're with NBC News, and I'm just trying to vote in an election on November 6th? Anybody? Anybody? Nobody's going to vote? Okay, I don't know if that proves nobody's going to vote so much as it proves people don't
Starting point is 00:07:12 want to talk to some random creepo at the bus stop. Like if anything, all we've learned is that 20 years of teaching kids about stranger danger has paid off. That's it. But I will say this democracy pick- up artist, he's actually getting at something important, right? This guy's, he's on to something. When it comes to voting, one crucial demographic is unenthusiastic AF. We always talk about who's going to come out and vote, you know, what demographic, what group, young people usually, historically, they don't show up. Young people, as a group, don't vote in the numbers that older folks thoks, right, right, right, right, right, right, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. And, to, to, to, to. And, to, to, to, to, to, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the. the. the. the. the. thean. thean. the. the. too. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. Young people are the least likely to vote. Young people, as a group, don't vote in the numbers
Starting point is 00:07:46 that older folks do. Turnout among younger voters is often below 30% in an election where people in their 50s and 60s turnout at 50 to 60% turnout rates. Old people vote twice as much as young people. To me, that makes no sense. Because young people have to live their their thoveved. thoved. thove tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. tho, tho-n. tho-n. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi. thi. tho, tho, to, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. toe, thu.. To me, that makes no sense. Because young people have to live with the effects way longer. Like, if I was old, I wouldn't care, I'd be gangster about my vote. Yeah, I'd just be like, well, let's see what this Jill Stein is about. Who gives it damn? I've got five years at best.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah, three years if I drink LaCroi. Let's do it. So, the question is, why don't young people want to go to the polls? Well, to help us get our heads around this, we are proud to announce our newest daily show edition, senior youth correspondent, Djibouki Young White, everybody! Welcome. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:08:40 So great to have you here. Welcome to the show. All right, let's get into it, man. thi- tha, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, thi, they. thi, they. thi, they. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, thi. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the thean. the to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to, to. to. to. to. to the show. All right, let's get into it, man. As young people, we know that we should be voting, but we don't seem to be enthusiastic enough. So what can we do to increase the turnout? Okay, well, first of all, Trevor, we're gonna need to stop saying we, because you're old. Okay, no, no, no, no, no, don't let the tieie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie the tie the tie the to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the tie. the the the tie. the 1984. Oh, 1984. Okay, vintage millennial. Nice. Nice.
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Starting point is 00:09:31 Jibuki, I'm trying to get to the bottom of this. Why aren't more young people excited about voting? Why aren't more young people excited about voting? What you should be asking is saw the Supreme Court ruling about North Dakota disenfranchising. No, no, no. You're talking about old people shit again, Trevor. No. I'm talking about how voting is designed for old people.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Like, why do we still use paper to vote? Paper is over. I don't even wipe my ass with paper. I use a bidet. And like, why do I have to go out to vote? Can't you just postmates the election to me, you know? Like, oh, Tony will be here in 20 minutes with my ballot and my seaweed salad? Dope, okay? Plus, now they want to require an ID? Where am I about to get an ID? Wait, wait, wait, you don't need a driver's license.
Starting point is 00:10:27 My Uber driver needs a driver's license. In fact, if you want my ID, my Uber is the best ID there is. It's got my face, it's got my rating, 4.8. And all my driver's license will tell you is where I once live. My Uber tells you where I'm trying to be, you know? Like right now I could take any of your phones and be like, oh, they went there, there, there, and they took a pool, they're gonna vote for Bernie.
Starting point is 00:10:56 You know. Right? 57% of older people are very excited to go vote. Yeah, of course they are. Because 57% of their life is just time off. When you're old, you have the luxury of free time, you know? Who else can play chess in a park at 4 p.m.? And why is voting on a Tuesday? That's the hardest day to take off, which reminds me, can I take off next Tuesday? No, what? Dude, no, you're just starting. See, that's what I'm talking about. That's that shit, Trevor.
Starting point is 00:11:27 There's no election next Tuesday. What are you talking about? Look, that's not the point. That's not the point. You want young people to vote. Make election. Yes, like President's Day or Toyotathon. Okay, so let me get this right. If America adopts digital voting, and if they allow people to do it from home
Starting point is 00:11:51 and they make Election Day National Holiday, then young people will definitely vote? Oh, no. Why would I spend my day off voting? I'm trying to see what this park chest is all about. Jabuki Young White, everybody. We'll be right back. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, the weekly show coming out every Thursday.
Starting point is 00:12:15 We're going to be talking about the election earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the Daily Show. You know, every now and again on the Daily Show, we like to take a moment to get into the mind of Donald Trump, actually figure out what he's thinking, which means we watch Fox
Starting point is 00:12:52 News. Because oftentimes when they say something, he does it. Fox News said Mexicans are taking over and then he said, let's build a wall. They talk shit about Robert Mullah, he says, witch hunt. They tell people to invest in gold and well you've seen his apartment. Anyway, since people started protesting Brett Kavanaugh, Fox has been working on an interesting new talking point and it goes a little something like this. Consider the question of angry left-wing mobs. They seem to be everywhere all of a sudden in this formerly placid country. You're seeing as the emergence of a very weird way of a brown shirt party to use the term
Starting point is 00:13:26 for the people who in Weimar Germany went out and literally dominated the streets by brute force. Remember all those anti-bullying PSAs the Obama White House did? Well now the Democrats are the worst bullies around. That's right. The Democrats are the worst bullies around. Yeah, but they don't give you wedgies. They force you to get better health care. Yeah, there's like, hey Timmy, when I see you in the parking lot after school, you're getting a comprehensive plan. No! So, the new narrative is, the Democrats, aren't just the opposition party. No, they're a violent, angry mob. And this week, Fox News found the perfect sound bite to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their the opposition party, no, they're a violent, angry mob.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And this week, Fox News found the perfect soundbites to support their narrative. Former Attorney General Eric Holder raises the bar for the radical left and calls for more on hinged, hate and actual violence against the Republicans. Watch this. But Michelle says that, you know, when they go low, we go on. No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:14:28 If they go low, we kick them. Right? That's what this new Democratic Party is about. We kick them. Really? This is the top cop under Barack Obama from hope and change to kick them on the ground. Okay. Can we just acknowledge that by saying they're going to get kicked? Sean Hanley and his friends are accepting that they're going low, right?
Starting point is 00:15:01 I'm just saying, they're like, I'm getting kicked. they're like, yeah, but only if you go low. Exactly. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's. that's that's that's th. that's that's that's th. that's th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thee. that's the. that's the. the. the. the. th. th. th., yeah, but only if you go low. Exactly, so I'm getting kicked. And if you're wondering, yeah, but Trevor, why aren't you commenting on Eric Holder's threat? Well, maybe it's because, unlike Fox, I watched the entire thing. When they go low, we go up. No. When they go low, we kick them. When I say, you know, we kick them, I don't mean we do anything inappropriate. We don't do anything illegal, but we've got to be tough. In other words, Eric Holder made it clear that it was a metaphor. So, Fox News is taking that, kick them completely out of context. It's the same way posters for bad movies will pick individual phrases out of reviews,
Starting point is 00:15:46 you know, like the poster will say, the best thing I've ever seen, but the actual reviewer's the best thing I've ever seen since I last took a dumb. And now, look, Fox has always been good at stirring up fear in the Republican base. But now, they're taking it to a new level. Because they're not only speaking about Republican voters, they're saying that the party leaders should be afraid. Pounding on Senate doors and screaming at senators in elevators.
Starting point is 00:16:12 These youngsters, right in a senator's face, gesticulated and shouting and screaming, that's, there's a danger there. Members of Congress getting shouted down on Capitol Hill, harassed in elevators stalked in airports, run out of restaurants? Oh no. No, poor Mitch McConnell. Someone yelled at him at the airport. Right before he confirmed the Supreme Court nominee who yelled at Congress for hours. Yeah but those people on angry mob, Brett Kavanaugh has every right to lose his call.
Starting point is 00:16:46 That's how it works, right? Yeah, I mean, in his defense, have you ever been questioned by Congress while hungover? Yeah, I didn't think so. I didn't think so. And by the way, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And look, look, I see what's happening here. But Fox News and the Republicans, you can't have it both ways.
Starting point is 00:17:14 One minute you're saying liberals are a bunch of peacey snowflakes, and then in the next sentence you're saying they're a dangerous mob. Like let's be honest, right now you're like, ah, I'm getting attacked by snowflakes. Ah, ah, ah, so delicate, but so dangerous. We'll be right back. to the wo'clock. to be coming out every Thursday. Hey, everybody. John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast.
Starting point is 00:17:43 The weekly show. It's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting, you'll be saying to yourself, TGID, thank God it's Thursday. We're going to be talking about all the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me. The election. Economics. Earnings calls.
Starting point is 00:18:04 What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the weekly show with My guest tonight is the editor-in-chief of Caterpilt magazine and author of the new book, All You Can Ever Know. Please welcome, Nicole Chang. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much. And thank you for sharing such an amazing story in this book. All you can ever know encapsulates what your life was. You grew up as a child who was adopted.
Starting point is 00:19:14 You were raised by white parents who loved you to the ends of the earth. But in this book you talk about something that many people struggle with every day, and that is the relationship of being a child who is adopted, who is living in a transracial household. Why is that so difficult? I think it's just difficult. I think, given that a lot of the, first of all, a lot of people go into adoption, not necessarily fully prepared to talk about race, which is, of course, crucial in a trans racial adoption. You know, like my parents, for example, went in and they asked a lot of questions of a lot of different experts, social workers and judges and adoption attorneys, and they were basically told, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:19:52 You know, it's going to be okay no matter what. You don't really have to talk about this. It's not going to be relevant. And of course, it very much was very much, to. to. to. to. to be very, to. to. to. to. to be very to. to. to be very to. to. to. to be very to. to. tooge. to be very to. tooge. too. too. too. tooge. tooge. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. to be too. to be too. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be tooge. tooge. tooge. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tooge. tooge. too. tooom. too. too. too. the too. the too. tooxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxi. tooe had this experience where your parents didn't talk to you about race at all. It was just ignored completely, it's never mentioned. And many people would agree with that. They would say, but yes, why, why should your parents talk to you about race, they would say,
Starting point is 00:20:13 they're tell you as a race, Nicole, because they don't seethem? It's completely natural in a way for parents, of course. It doesn't affect their love for their child. I wasn't, like my parents didn't think of me as their Korean child or their adopted child, I was just their child. I think what none of us really knew how to talk about so of me in my life. It was going to matter. Other people would notice, they would comment. And I think also none of us were really prepared for all the questions that we got, you know, moving about in the world because we kind of stood out in my hometown. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:54 So often when I got those questions, I wasn't reallyakes us through such a painful, exciting, loving, wonderful journey where you begin to explore who you are and you have that yearning to find out the rest of your story and and that in of itself I mean you described in such detail is is scary but at the same time really exciting. Why do you think it was so important for you to want to to find who your biological parents were where you had these parents who loved you so much? I had thought about it for many years, and really for me, what was the final push was when I became pregnant with my first child. Up until that point, I thought of course about what it would feel like to have a child and to share my life and my history with them, but I hadn't really thought about about about about about their their their their their their their their their, their, their, th.., thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thr. thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, and, thin, I hadn't really thought about how being adopted would affect them, like what questions they might have.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And I remember so vividly sitting like at my first prenatal appointment getting all these questions about my medical history and what my birth mother's pregnancy and her births were like, and I had no answers. And I suddenly just felt like this deep sense of fear and inadequacy that this was information I needed to have that my children might need to have. So that was really the final push. You went out, you searched, and you found your answers. I don't want to give away a lot of the book,
Starting point is 00:22:15 but there is a beautiful connection that you made with a sibling who you discovered, your sister, I believe you have two, right? And a half-sister and a full sister, as you call them, the th, th, th, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, their, th, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and thr, and throwneean, and throwne, throwne, their, their, their, their, their, their, sister and a full sister, as you call them in the book, but you're very close to your sister. That is a really interesting relationship to have somebody who has been a stranger your whole life and let you feel like you've known them forever. Yes, she's an amazing person, and a lot of this book really, it's her story as well as mine. You kind of get both stories on a parallel thapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapap an th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to th, th, th, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thri, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, th a parallel tracks and then they intersect when we finally meet and find out about each other. And she's just an amazing person.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I feel so lucky to have her in my life. My kids have always just known her because like we connected the same month that I gave birth. But it's been interesting to talk with them about it just in terms of like they kind of tak. the the're together, that we have this family and these relationships we've recovered. But really we had to do a lot of work and it took a lot of effort and a lot of heartache to put our family back together in this way. So it's not something I'll ever take for granted. It's beautiful, it's a page tunnel. Thank you so much for being on the show. Thank you so I appreciate. available now. A beautiful story. Nicole Chung everybody. Hi, it's Dan Soder.
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