The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Jon Stewart Tackles The Trump Conviction Fallout | Ken Buck

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

Jon Stewart breaks down the response to Trump's guilty verdict from Joe Biden and the media, as well as the GOP's vow for revenge and hypocritical complaint about Democrats pursuing "political prosecutions." Plus, Jon pleads with the media to act a little more like the court system and examine evidence and reach conclusions, instead of wildly speculating on future realities. Also, Former Republican Colorado Representative Ken Buck joins Jon to discuss his early resignation from Congress and why he doesn’t align with the principles of the MAGA wing of the Republican Party. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Shane, with the shock, with the shock. But of course, the biggest story continues to be the reaction to former President Trump's trial convictions. For the left, the conviction was an exercise in concealed and controlled glee. Many took the opportunity to over-demonstrate how they took no pleasure from this day that they had been dreaming about since childhood. It was a somber and sad day for America that we have now seen a former president convicted on three-four felony counts.

I would hope we could all agree that this is a sad moment. The justice system had an honorable day. Our country had a sad day. And Ferris Bueller had the day off. Perhaps nothing personified the delicate high wire between Glee and Gravitas, more than President Biden's Cheshire Cat press conference, Encore. Mr. President, can you tell us, sir, Donald Trump refers himself as a political prisoner and blames you directly. What's your response?

No, don't stop! Don't stop! Don't! Don't stop?! Don't! Don't stop! Why can't they tell him? Just fucking keep walking. Whenever he's out in public and he stops.

No, Bueno. No, B, boy no. Okay, go. Sir. Do you think the conviction will have an impact on the campaign? We'd love to be so weird? Why does everything have to be so weird? Why?

If you have something to say about it, say it. If you don't have something to say about it, don't say it. But you're just going to stop and hit him with some kind of 70s sitcom freeze frame. Mr. President, what do you think, the challenge is how do we exploit the moment politically without giving the impression that this was the plan all of all. Republicans needed to employ a slightly different strategy. This was a sham-rigged political show trial from the very beginning. This is the most outrageous travesty I've ever seen. This was not law, this was not criminal justice.

This was politics, this was a political smear job. I guess we all need to shop at Banana Republic from now on, because that's what it feels like. Yeah, a banana republic. After this trial, we need to shop at Old Navy, because our country is a sinking ship. It was a sham. It was a sham, this trial, a sham, I say. It was a sham, I'm shopping at Old Naming. The trial was a sham, yes, we impaneled grand juries and submitted evidence and cross-examined witnesses. But how was Donald Trump or his family not allowed on the jury? Outrageous! I guess in America now we need to start shopping

it bonobos because our country is getting fucked at both ends. You see, if I may, bonobos are highly sexual apes. You frequently engage in activities with multiple partners. Oh, I'm gonna be a big hit on primatologist Dic-Duck. But maybe our justice system wasn't a sham, but certainly applying our justice system to Donald Trump was. This is the weaponization of the justice system against their political opponent. This is a justice system that hunts Republicans while protecting Democrats.

Oh my God! The justice system hunts Republicans while protecting Democrats. Someone should mention that to such unprotected Democrats as Senator Robert Menendez and Congressman Henry Quayar, both facing corruption charges brought by our Department of Justice. Not to mention, Hunter Biden was facing jury selection in a federal gun charges trial. F-finding today. It's probably why you noticed everyone on Fox and Friends this morning using pillows to cover their boners. It was... But now you've done it, liberals. Through your sham weaponization, the good-hearted

and good-intentioned denizens of Magatania have finally been pushed too far. Be ready, because on January 20 of next year, when he's former, President Joe Biden, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. The Daily Wires Matt Walsh said Trump should, make and publish a list of 10 high-ranking Democrat criminals who he will have arrested when he takes office. These Democrats will rue the day. They decided to use lawfare to stop a presidential candidate.

It won't be Hunter Biden the next time. It's going to be Joe Biden. It could potentially be Barack Obama. It could still potentially be Hillary Clinton. It could be Barack Obama. It could still potentially be Hillary Clinton. It could be Barack Obama? First of all, why is she broadcasting in front of Georgia O'Keefe's vagina? And second, perhaps it is time for those on the right to begin to examine what it might be like to investigate Hillary and William Clinton, or perhaps to do it continuously and relentlessly for the last 30 years.

But to admit their own political gamesmanship, their own attempts at weaponizing justice, their own relentless pursuit of opponents, their own dehumanizing rhetoric towards the left would be to allow a molecule of reality into the airtight distortion field that has been created to protect Magadonians from the harsh glare of actuality. It is a place where a moment such as this next one can pass without so much as a gasp of what planet do you live on for it is clearly not ours.

You famously said regarding Hillary Clinton, lock her up. You declined to do that as president. I didn't say lock up, but the people don't Clinton, Locker up. You declined to do that as president. I didn't say Locker up, but the people don't say, Locker up, Locker up. What the fuck? You never said Lockford, I think I remember you saying it to her face at a debate. It's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country. Because you'd be in jail.

To be fair, I apologize. You did not say the words, lock her up. You only used a phrase synonymous with locking her up. Again, apologies. You merely gave the thumbs up to thousands of others chanting lock her up. But that doesn't mean he literally said lock her up. Although to be fair, he literally said lock her up all the fucking time. So crooked, you should lock her up, I'll tell you. For what she's done, they should lock her up. I'll tell you. the that, you should lock her up. up. the the the the the the the the the th. the th. the the the th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. the th. the thum, thum, the thum, you thum, you the thum, you the thum. You thum thum thum, you thum, you thum, you thum, you thum, you thum, you thum, you thum, you thum, you thum, you thum, you th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You time. So crooked Hillary, you should lock her up, I'll tell you. For what she's done, they should lock her up.

Lock her up is right. Lock up the Biden's. Lock up Hillary. And he said it a million times. And then the, the, I, and the Fox and Friends B team is just fucking sitting there. Tanned and fit and healthy and so ficable. How did they get? So... So... So... It's a good-looking bunch.

But there's three of them. One of them didn't remember, he said, lock him up. I can believe two of them didn't remember, three of them. And that, ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, is why we need courts. Whatever flaws the American justice system has, and they are legion, especially for non-billionaire former presidents. It does appear to be the last place in America, where you can't just say whatever the fuck you want, regardless of reality. Trump knows this

better than anyone. Now I would have testified. I wanted to testify. The theory is you'd never testify, because as soon as you testify, anybody. If it were George Washington, don't testify, because he'll get you on something that you said slightly wrong, and then they sue you for perjury.

You would have said something out of whack, beautiful sunny day and it was actually raining out. Yes, our jails in America are filled with incompetent weathermen. I'm telling you, officer, I thought there would be thundersnow. I, I, I, I, I, I, uh, 20% is still a chance. Don't take me away. This is why the law and order right hate The 20% is still a chance. Don't take me away. This is why the law and order right hates court procedures when applied to them. Courts are the last remaining guardrail that is a standard of evidentiary presentation. It is the last place where you have to prove what you say and you see the difference

in what they say out of court versus what they say in court. Here is Trump on the 2020 election, out of court. This is a fraud on the American public. We know there was massive fraud. It was a rigged election, 100%. Here are his lawyers in court. This is not a fraud case. We are not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. We're not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. We're not alleging to anyone stealing the election.

Here is Rudy Giuliani pleading before the court of seasonal landscapers. What happened there? It's a mix-up. He's pleading, but not in the actual court. It's a fraud, an absolute fraud. And what does Giuliani say about that in court? If we had a lead fraud, yes, but this is not a fraud case. It's not a fraud case, in court, where I would need evidence.

It's only a fraud case out there amongst the sod and the mulch. Where I can say whatever I want. Fox News says that Dominion voting machines rigged the election for Biden out of court. They were flipping votes in the computer system or adding votes that did not exist. The whole situation was carefully calculated and created to steal the election from President Trump. Did you notice as the fraud trial went on Sidney Powell turned into Michael Jackson? Is that?

Is that? What happened? Epilets? She probably ended that segment with, Woo-hoo! But that's where you can say out of court. But in court, Fox was forced to pay $787 million for false statements. The difference between in court and out of court is that in court, someone can say, prove it.

And the problem is that most of the time in this country, our political leaders are not in court. They are here, on TV, where the news media has decided that there's really no such thing as reality. We now live in two utterly different universes. These two Americas are living in two different realities. Americans are living in two very different realities. No.

You're thinking of the multiverse. the most part, two very different realities. No. No. You're thinking of the multiverse. We are all living in one reality and it can be the news media's job to litigate the parameters of said reality. What the courts do really well is look backwards and reconstruct the realities of what happened. The news media could do the realities of what happened. The news media could do the same, but what they do instead is look forward and wildly speculate on the future. If Donald Trump is the nominee and if he is convicted of a crime, could you support him?

If he's a convicted felon, if he is the Republican nominee, does that mean you're still going to vote for him? It could be convicted before November. Would you still support him then? Will you commit to certifying the 2024 election results no matter who wins? Let me look forward. Will you accept the election results of 2024 no matter what happened, Senator? No matter what, Senator? Voting regularities, and overlords, voting machines that suddenly transform into fighting robots. Voting booth powers activate. Will you still certify? Who fucking cares?

No one knows what the future holds. Ask this person what it was about the 2020 election that they found objectionable and then litigate the realities of their objections to them in front of them. So when they say to you, I never said, Locker Up, you can say, I object! Feeking do that! What is wrong with you? And you know what? And you know what? I gotta... Here's the deal.

You really want to ask speculative questions that nobody can answer. We'll just create a show just for that. We'll tighten it down to a half hour and call it, No one fucking knows. And you put all the polls and the horse race questions in there. And then with the other 23.5 hours in the day, the other seven days a week, you can present the evidence for our shared experience. Because court should be the option of last resort for our defined reality. Not the only option for our defined reality.

So listen up, media. We'll give you a little gavel. You can study all the only option for our defined reality. So listen up media, we'll give you a little gavel. You can study all the evidence no matter how tedious and reach a conclusion. And then you can present those conclusions and the audience, us, will be the ones doing like jury duty, willingly, without penalty of law or without trying to come up with any excuse to avoid having to do jury duty. I think I'm seeing the flaw in my argument. Either way, it's better than what we have now. When we come back, Ken Buck will be joining us. Unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show. We're going to be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio, on

sandwiches. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the program. My guest tonight, a Republican who used to represent Colorado's fourth district in Congress for nine years until his resignation in March. Please welcome to the program, former congressman Ken Buck. Sir. How are you? Yes. So, sir, you are a congressman for nine years. How are you?

Yes. Now, for those are the audience you might not know, so, sir, you are a congressman for nine years. Conservative bona fides, I mean, impeccable. And yet, not strong enough in fealty to the Trump world that you were immune from the pressure and the penalties that they might place on you. Well, Donald Trump's not a conservative. Exactly. But now you're the rhino. You and I probably disagree on on most things.

Hopefully everything. Hopefully everything. Well done sir. Well done. Well done. But what is the pressure like? You know I see so many Republican stalwarts who are on the record as saying this man is a con man. This man is not worthy of the highest office of the presidency. This man defiles our great country. I'm supporting him in 2024. What is the mental process of that? Well, it's really pretty simple.

Yes. In order to get elected, you've got to get 51% of the vote. And so there's this combination of wanting to do the right thing, so you run for office, and then you need to be popular in order to win. And the Republican Party now, a majority of Republican primary voters are MAGA supporters. And so you don't want to make the man the man the man the man the man the mmaee the m the m the ma the m the ma the ma the ma to make to make to make to make the ma to make to make to make to make to make the ma to make to make the meckeckeckefficefficefficeckoesa tooesa tooesa to to to to to to so you don't want to make the man mad who is really in control or strongly influencing the MAGA voters. So those folks are making a calculation.

They want to stay in office. What is the, in your mind, what's the percentage of that? How much of it is cynical calculation and how much of it is people like yourself leave and they are filled in by real ideologues who believe in that message. The message of it's really whatever Trump wants, having nothing to do with conservative principle. I think that there's 100% of the folks who are running for office

who recognize that if they're going to win a Republican primary, they need to be Trump supporters. And that's what's happening. Was their discussion discussion discussion discussion discussion discussion discussion discussion discussion discussion discussion discussion discussion discussion they need to be Trump supporters. Right. And that's what's happening. Was there discussion behind the scenes in Congress where people would say, I want this to end? Do they feel hostage to that? Yeah, I'm in both parties, honestly. In both parties, there is a real problem with the folks who are at the head of the ticket.

Right. Obviously, Dean Phillips felt that way on the left. Sure, no, I was a big Phillips supporter. I really thought he was going to go all the way. Well, remind me again, who is Dean Phillips? Now, you, but you've said, so you've watched this process play out with Donald Trump. It, it, would you say it's fair that it literally drove you from Congress? I would not win a primary in the next election or if I want a primary it would be because there were so many people who wanted to run against me that they split. And what was the crime that you committed because your positions hadn't changed so tell me the crime you committed. So I don't know that it's a

crime now that we're talking about verdicts and things like that yes sir trying to stay away from whatever crime you are not the in any way. Whatever crime I committed, the statute of limitations probably hasn't run, so I want to make sure I'm clear there. My goal in leaving Congress was to leave undefeated and unindicted and I have accomplished that goal so I'm very happy about that. You got to aim higher next time. You gotta... No, you, but you, you do have a frustration and complaints about the process of this Donald Trump trial. I think you called it shameful precedent? No.

Shameful precedent? A shameful precedent. Well, I think it is a bad precedent. Okay. I was a prosecutor for 25 years. Why do you think it's a bad precedent? It is a bad precedent because Lady Justice, blindfold, scale, sword, the image of Lady Justice. We went out in the 70s, I'm very familiar. Okay.

Okay. In this case, the blindfold came off. The blindfold is on because people shouldn't be targeted. the people shouldn't be targeted. And the system is flawed. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. People shouldn't be targeted because they're white or black, man or woman, Republican Democrat, rich, poor. The blindfold came off and Donald Trump was targeted. Now how was he, I'm curious how he was targeted. So Cyrus Vance was the previous DA declined this case. Alvin Bragg brought a case where the misdemeanor had the statute of limitations had expired,

found a felony to extend that statute of limitations and then brought the case. I think... Found a felony or there was a felony? Well, there wasn't a felony for the previous district attorney. I mean, many times district attorneys will say, I don't think the evidence gets to that standard, but another district attorney might come in and say, oh no, th.......... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the thi. thi. the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. I's, the th. I's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. I. I's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I'm. t. t. t. t. today. today, today, today, today, th. today, th. th. th. th. don't think the evidence gets to that standard, but another district attorney might come in and say, oh no, that's a felony. He's doing that in order to manipulate an election. That's a felony. So this district attorney declined the case, Alvin Bragg declined the case and then brought

the case. Right. And there was significant political pressure to bring the case. And that's something that our our our our our our our our our our our our our justice justice justice justice justice that our our our our our our our justice the justice is our our justice is our justice is our justice is our justice is our justice is our justice is our justice. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. the the the the tooom. tooom. the tooom. tooom. tooom. tooom. tooom. tooes. tooes. tooes. tooes. tooes. tooes. tooes. tooes. tooes. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the the the the toe. the the the th. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to be insulated from. And the federal system has done a fairly good job of being insulated. You've got Hunter Biden. You've got a special counsel appointed on. But Hunter Biden wouldn't be up against charges if he wasn't Hunter Biden.

He'd be just some dude who brought a gun somewhere. He wouldn't be facing the charges he's facing. Well, we probably disagree about that. I think that hopefully Hunter Biden would would would would would would would would would be fi would be fi w wi would would would would would be thuuuuuuuuu. th. th. th. thu. thu. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the just the just th. th. the the the the the just th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thus. thus. thus. the just just just just just just just just. theateateateateateateateateateate. theateateate. theateateate. theateate. the. the. the. the about that. I think that hopefully Hunter Biden would... You think Hunter Biden would be facing rather than like a rehab stint or something along those lines? You think the attention on Hunter Biden would be occurring whether his name was Hunter Biden or not? I prosecuted hundreds of gun cases, some of them because drug dealers, drug users, drug addicts, had purchased a gun. Yes. But doesn't that say more about this country's view on drug cases and how we prosecute them and how we excuse white collar crime? We basically have a bargain with white collar crime where we say, how about if you give us like 5% of it and everything will be fine. Like isn't that not speak to political targeting but the way that we diminish white collar crimes? I mean 2008, the financial system collapsed and one dude when the thu-uu-cuse th use th use th use th use th use th use th use th use th use thuse use thuse use th use thuse use thu-cuse thu-cuse thu-cuse the thu-cuse thu-cuse thu-cuse the the the thu-cuse cases the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the drug cases the drug cases the drug cases the drug cases the drug cases the drug cases the drug cases th case th case th case th case th case th case th case th th th th th is th is th is th is th is th. th. th. thus cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases cases thu thu-cuse cases thu-cuse cases thu-cuse cases thu-cuse cases. thususususususususus. the cases the cases the us their ca their case their case the the the cases the thus speak to political targeting, but the way that we diminish white-collar crimes? I mean, 2008, the financial system collapsed

and one dude went to jail for like three months. I mean, I think Martha Stewart did a longer stint. Which was a white-collar crime, by the way. But yeah, I think that, I was a white-collar prosecutor for much of my 25 years. Absolutely. A black kid walks into a bank, robs a bank, twenty years. A white guy at a bank steals millions of dollars compared to $1,200 gets off with probation or goes to a camp in Florida for a few months. Absolutely inequitable. Absolutely. And Congress. So couldn't you look at this as actually not a shameful precedent, but an unbelievably positive step in

sending a message that the low level of corruption that seems to be the center of our political life is unacceptable. I mean, I mean, that was the way out of the look at it. But I was not a prosecutor. I didn't, I didn't think that was coming. I apologize. I apologize. No, no. I'm sorry. You all get bonuses.

Yes, exactly. So it is a dangerous precedent in my mind. Yeah. Because when we start charging former presidents, we, we, and I'm not saying that, look, I think what Donald Trump did in Atlantic City with the casinos and other things, right. There were fraud and it maybe went beyond civil fraud and and there are plenty of things that people could look at and say that, that's a criminal case. Sure. I think when you look at a former president and he has gone up how many civil cases now and and for criminal cases. But let's be clear, I mean, Donald Trump didn't come into office of Boy Scout.

He was probably one of the most sued individuals in New York State history. I mean, his first lawyer was Roy Cone was Roy Cone was Roy Cone, I think he was Roy Cone, I think, you don't hire Roy Cone and say to him like's lawyer and Satan's lawyer. I think and if I remember correctly even Satan would say to him like, take it down or not, Roy, that's a little but do you get pay his bills? He did not pay his bills. Okay. But my point is this is a continuation of a process. So the targeting aspect of it, look, a healthy country would have viewed what Donald Trump did from the election day through January 6th, the way that he meticulously and relentlessly pursued all avenues to overturn

a democratic election. That's what a healthy country would deal with. But a healthy country also looks at other aspects of what seemed to be fraud. If you have a home office and you put it on your taxes, but you don't really have a home office, that's a problem for you. Is it not? Yes. Why isn't, why aren't? They say like it's just a bookkeeping error of $130,000. Donald Trump colluded with his lawyer and a publisher of a major tabloid to buy and bury stories. Not a crime. That he would deem hurtful to his election and then use the finances that he paid for those stories and put them down as not that.

That is a crime. Is it not? No, he didn't put him down. He put him down in a ledger as not a payment for it. But so what would he, well, you can falsify your own books. You just can't falsify your books when you submit him to the IRS. Oh, so when he absited him, he said it was a legal expense. He, it wasn't a campaign expense. I understand the point you're making. So here's where this takes us, I think.

I don't believe Donald Trump is the sole threat to our democracy. I truly don't. I think he is a symptom of a dissatisfaction that people have with the democratic system where if you have money and you're powerful you can go, it's on my ledger is a legal expense. It's not a real, it's not a legal expanse. It's not for my election. I think they see that his prescription of our system is correct. The system is rigged. And people's dissatisfaction with that is what leads to to they see that his prescription of our system is correct. The system is rigged. And people's dissatisfaction with that is what leads to Donald Trump being able to command

that dissatisfaction. Where I would disagree with him is, I don't think he wants to drain the swamp. I think he wants the deed to the swamp signed over to him so that he can turn America into just another subsidiary of the Trump organization. But I don't know, so my question to you would be, why is it bad precedent to pursue that case legally? Donald Trump, if he pursued the election fraud cases through the courts and they impaddled a grand jury. And then it went to a trial with a jury of peers,

and they decided on it. That's not illegitimate. So why is this illegitimate? And by the way, that's my lawyer calling right now. First of all, is that really your ringtone? Like is your ringtone baby go nappy? All right, sorry. Getting all this high dugean really disingenuous. The prosecutor ran on getting Donald Trump.

Well, he's the DA. He runs on weeding out corruption, right? Can I answer that? Please. I was a prosecutor. 25 years. But I ran three separate times. Three separate times. OK. okay I ran on we've got a

combat violent crime we've got to go after repeat offenders okay never ran on I'm gonna get that guy but you could run on I'm getting white collar corruption the Alvin Bragg didn't say I'm gonna get Trump what he said was I'm the most qualified this guy has a record in New York decades long of corruption. And I think it's, look, if you were Dick Tracy and you wanted to be the thing, wouldn't you be like, I'm going to get Scarface or whoever one of the Dick Tracy guys, like, this was a guy pulling that. And the second point to that would be this.

In 2016, what was one of the platforms that Donald Trump ran on? Let's get crooked Hillary. Thank God he's not a prosecutor. I understand, but do you get my point? The point is, this guy ran on, Hillary is crooked, and I'm going to put her in jail. And then with Biden, he said, the Biden crime failure and I'm going to put them in jail. And then a prosecutor in New York said, I have evidence you've committed felony so we're going to put you on trial and he's like,

what? How dare you, sir? What are we talking about? What is this? What are we dealing with? I'm about to go to jail, aren't I, sir? Respectfully. Please. Apples and oranges. Why? Because you've got someone in a political system. And how many people in America believe what a politician says?

Sir, not, no, no, no. Hey, tickets are free. I will throw you out of here, respectfully. We're having a conversation. This is not Rome. A prosecutor walks into a courtroom and tells a lie, and that prosecutor loses a law license and probably goes to prison. Exactly.

So, so the difference between Alvin Bragg saying, I am going after that person and Donald Trump saying that person should go to prison is two different forums. Who has the more power? Who has a more candidate? No, the president. And someone running for president. This is kind of a crazy argument you're making. No, no, no, no, no, let me finish.

Bill argument you're making. No, no, no, no, let me finish. Bill Barr, great attorney general. Mayor Garland, great attorney general. Mayor Garland appoints a special counsel and then puts the report out that says that Joe Biden should not be prosecuted because he's a kind gentleman with a bad memory, something to that effect. Right. That's not what he said, but okay. Well it's close. What he said was he he would present to the jury as a kind general general. Which. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Mar. Mar. Mar. Marr-in, th. the. thr-I. tr. true. true. true. true. true. the the the the the the the thr-I. the the the he would present to the jury as a kind of general, which means I don't think we can win this case because I think he's too sympathetic a figure. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. I apologize. I'm not trying to slander. Uh, objection. No, objection, what's the... I don't know. All right. It's a long time ago. But my point being that if a candidate says I'm going to get this person, then that's all

Alvin Bragg was at that time as a candidate. So why aren't you holding Donald Trump, who's running for president to the same standard that you would hold Alvin Bragg. And not only that, when Donald Trump was president, he did impanel a special se se se se se se se se se to to to to to to to to to go to to go to go to to go to go to to to to the Russian. the Russian. to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their? I. the their? I. to their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. to to to be a to be a to be a the the the the the the the the the the the the to be a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. tr. tr. tr. tr. to. to. to. to. And. And. And. hold Alvin Brack. And not only that, when Donald Trump was president, he did impanel a special prosecutor to go after the Russian collusion hoax, that John Durham panel, and that was there to try and get charges against Hillary. You can't be mad at the Democrats for committing murder just because your team only committed attempted murder. Like, that just doesn't fly. They were successful in their prosecution as opposed to those the the the the their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, thi, thi, the, a the, a the. thi. thi. thi, a special, a special, a special, a special, a special, a special, a special, a special, a special, a special, a special their, a special their, a special the. A, a special, a special, a special. t. t. te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te.e.e.e.e.e.e. te.e. te.e. te. te.e. te. te. te. te. 't fly. They were successful in their prosecution as opposed to those other cases where you just tried to get her. So Donald Trump never had the authority to request a search warrant, put handcuffs on somebody, prosecute somebody. That is always done by an independent Department of Justice. On the other hand, Alvin Bragg ran for office to get

that authority to do those very things. It's two separate situations. Not solely and also those things come with a process. He can't just go in there and go arrest that guy. This isn't Navalny. This is a grand jury was impaneled of normal New Yorkers, not Alvin Brad, and he presented his evidence. And they came back and said, yeah, there's a case here. So then they impaneled the jury. And then both sides got to choose.

You can indict a ham sandwich. That's what a grand jury is. Okay. But generally, you wouldn't convict a ham sandwich. No. 12 New Yorkers would go, that's just a hand sandwich. And we will see what an appeals court does. Look, you're putting me in an unenviable position of defending Donald Trump. I've spent a long time telling people.

I'm putting you in a position of defending the process that he was put through. That process has standards. You said it yourself. An appeals court is going to look at this. There are many safeguards within our legal system. And he's getting the benefit of almost all of them. In a way that poor New Yorkers will never get a sniff of.

Agree both. So he's getting doier process than anybody has ever gotten. So I don't understand just because you don't like the result. He doesn't like the result of the election. Our elections are a fraud and we're a third world country. He doesn't like the result of a criminal case. Our courts are a fraud. What would make him better if they did what I wanted?

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I retract my previous comments. I will have the stenographer note those in the, how do we, my point in the first segment was, the courts have been a really important stopgap. I think our courts are, there is a two-tiered system and poor people without access get screwed. But I do think it's played an important role in holding up certain things in terms of corruption. I think the news media has forgotten that that can be part of their role. Is that something that

you think could bring a sense more of an established reality, an earned authority from the media that could create some parameters that we can all sort of agree on? Is that something that you think would be possible? I appreciate the question. I'm no longer a defense attorney, now I can go to. So I think we went from Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather to entertainment and I think the problem... Why are you looking at me?

I didn't... I had nothing to do with this. I think the problem right now is everybody gets their news sources in silos and they just keep getting reinforced with certain ideas. I went to a neighbor's house the day after the 2020 election their flag was upside down. I was... You live next to the Elitos? I thought they made a mistake. Oh, that's crazy. I knocked on the door and asked them, your flags up is...

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You know, people can say like, oh, they're in their silos, but I think also the algorithms of social media incentivize you to more and more radical, they want to keep you engaged in the same way that the news media needs kind of fear and urgency. I would say it's built for 9-11, but in the absence of 9-11, they have to make you think like it's 9-11. And I think the algorithm plays a role in that as well, driving us into those holes, lacking perspective. I don't know what you do about that. Well, one, you create more competition.

Facebook should have five Facebooks that they compete with, and hopefully would be a point where... What they do is they buy anything that even resembles a budding Facebook and stick it in their Facebook drawer. Right. That's the tough part. Oh it's... Do you miss Congress in any way, is there something about... Do you feel it was a job left undone for you? Do you feel? What are your ultimate thoughts about about leaving the way you did and the unfulfilled potential of a government that is completely disconnected from the needs of its people, allowing demagogues like Donald Trump to rise? Well, I left because I couldn't tell the lie. The 2020 election wasn't stolen.

The January 6th defendants aren't political prisoners, on and on. And so- That's him saying that not me. I just want to make that clear. I don't want to. If I ever decide to run for Congress as a Republican, I just want to make sure that, that's Ken Buck saying that, not me. Continue.

So, so, not telling the, not agreeing to the party line. You're a victim of cancel culture. Well, I am, one, I'm not a victim of anything. I am absolutely blessed beyond belief with six grandkids and plenty of reasons. Six and a half grandkids. One on the way. Oh God, I'm sorry. I immediately went to like Salomonic wisdom of like,

no, you're not supposed to do that. No, but, you know, there's a lot of life out there besides arguing about nothing and telling lies. And so I made a choice to go enjoy what I've got left. What will break this fever in Washington? One, America does great with a crisis. 9.12, America came together and we were a unified country. I hope we don't get to the crisis.

For like seven hours. Hope we don't get to that crisis point. Yes. But I think that there is a leader out there that will unify and help unify America. And it's somebody who has great morals, somebody who has great leadership skills, a John F. Kennedy. You know, I probably wouldn't have said this 20 years ago that he was a great hero, but you look at what John F. Kennedy did in terms of bringing the country together during

the Cold War and moving us forward. There is somebody there that will help America heal and move forward. You wouldn't th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the tho, tho, tho, tho, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their, their their, their their their their their their, their their their their, their their, their their, their, tho, tho, tho, theeat, thooo, thoooooooooo, theat, their their their their, their, their, the forward. You wouldn't happen to have a name, would you? I know it's not Kent Buck, and I know it's not one of the two candidates leading the country in the polls right now. Right. Well, I very much appreciate you coming back and having the discussion with us and come back and see us again. Much appreciated. Wish your best. Former Congress from Ken Buck, we're going to take a break and be right back. That was a fantastic one. Hey everybody, John Stewart here.

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